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More Unannounced Hero Specs Coming! (Necromancer, Rifleman etc.)

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So the hero specs are really not that great, it is not exactly a new class and a lot of them are super generic but the good news is that there is a ton of room for change at this stage and we could expect a bunch more to come. They had already introduced a lot of iconic warcraft 3 classes like the mountain king, dark ranger, farseer.
While they said classes like the Blademaster is a bit too far away for them to work as a hero spec we could definitely be in for a headhunter, a rifleman, a warden an alchemist a witch doctor, a chieftain and a few others. So what exactly are hero talents and which of the lore classes could we expect to see?
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@Doronsmovies
@Doronsmovies 7 ай бұрын
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@Trentbail23
@Trentbail23 7 ай бұрын
Druid of the nightmare would be an amazing spec imagine turning into a giant bear from DHT.
@joezar33
@joezar33 7 ай бұрын
Human : Swashbuckler , Vigilante talent tree Dwarven : Brawler , official Drunken Brawler tanking talent tree his drunk AF 😂 Night Elf: Warden Gnome :Tinker Gun Arcane with a few Robo Pets Draenie : Prophet lots of Aura Effects that help the party and a healer Worgan : Pack Leader Rogue with a Pet Orc : Barbarian Conan mix a Fury or Arms Warrior with a Rogue that dodge alot Troll: Witch Doctor Tauren: Medicine Man Undead : Necromancer make them able too equipped their Skeleton with weapons and armor Blood Elf/Void/High Elves : Elven Archer more focused on there bow skills or can be a healer Goblin : Demolition Like too see new Classes that are Racely meant for the main races..
@darkstarjlj22
@darkstarjlj22 7 ай бұрын
I just want these talents to feel amazing and have immersive visualizations to really push them into greatness like dark ranger with a shadowy kit or something like that. This really needs to happen because the while concept of hero talents is such an amazing idea but will be a huge "L" if they dont get the immersion right.please Bliz! Make this happen for us all
@christopherh4891
@christopherh4891 7 ай бұрын
exactly like whats the point if i get "shadow arrow" and it just bleh or worse another DOT oof
@watchonjar
@watchonjar 7 ай бұрын
exactly these cant just be covenants 2.0 or an extra set of normal talents thye should have visual changes
@eltonazevedo1361
@eltonazevedo1361 7 ай бұрын
the warrior deserved *Gladiator* for prot and arms! and as prot Gladiator stance and for arms gave us bloodbath from MoP
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 7 ай бұрын
I want whatever the Enchantment and Elemental Shaman blend ends up being called to be just a whirlwind of rng proc madness really push into what makes shaman stupid fun to play
@Shiftinggers
@Shiftinggers 7 ай бұрын
San'layn spec for DK sounds so much fun. I can't wait to yell "FEAST MY MINIONS" whenever a Blood Beast spawns
@soulsmith4787
@soulsmith4787 7 ай бұрын
The Hero Talents are essentially just additional specialization talents in their own discrete trees. This eliminates the bloat we saw in WotLK while still giving us considerable progression. It reduces the total number of talent combinations without compromising choice. In my opinion the choice here is actually more meaningful. Any individual specialization has the choice between two trees and each of these trees have several choice nodes. None of the talents appear to just be filler.
@TakaChan569
@TakaChan569 7 ай бұрын
It does not really get rid of the bloat, it just puts it off for a bit longer.
@zytha2890
@zytha2890 7 ай бұрын
the only question is how *useful* will each talent be? if they're all situational except certain ones (aka the useful ones) then they're just bloat again
@soulsmith4787
@soulsmith4787 7 ай бұрын
@@zytha2890 The first iteration shows either a feedback loop or a new mechanic grafted onto the class specialization depending on which Hero Tree you choose. Some have more than others, but there are talents which increase the utility and effectiveness of core class abilities with little to no interplay for the feedback loops or mechanics provided by the trees. The player will be able to get all nodes in a tree. Nodes modify core class abilities and bolster the main feature of the Hero Tree. So long as you use the abilities it modifies and are mindful of the new feature for each available tree, then there should be little to no fat. On an unrelated note, this is giving me the old Glyph system vibes.
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 7 ай бұрын
​@@soulsmith4787its like artifact weapons honestly
@kingsim9288
@kingsim9288 7 ай бұрын
I really hope they had those Warcraft 3 classes you mention.
@jpch8814
@jpch8814 7 ай бұрын
Priest of the moon/elune is a must!!!
@Hopless1900
@Hopless1900 7 ай бұрын
Sorry sadly not since only the night elves would have the option, for all other races it would not make sense.
@Ilivedbih
@Ilivedbih 6 ай бұрын
​@@Hopless1900 And I'm pretty sure only female night elves are allowed to be priestess of the moon
@warling5042
@warling5042 7 ай бұрын
They could implement race only classes. Blademaster for Orcs and Mountain Thane for Dwarves. I mean Elves have their own class (DHs) also so it makes sense.
@mkwarlock
@mkwarlock 7 ай бұрын
I would really like to see some new hero classes, like Warden, Runemaster, or Tinker.
@ademord
@ademord 7 ай бұрын
Sorry if blizzard doesnt full on go for blademasters and tinkers and vampires to go included already in this change they are not fully commited in my mind. Make it finally right for the players once again .
@bluechipBBN
@bluechipBBN 7 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for them to add the Tuskarr Fishmaster hero class/race combo for so long. Plz Blizzard add them already.
@mkwarlock
@mkwarlock 7 ай бұрын
@@bluechipBBN I would personally like to see the Murloc Tidehunter first.
@andrewjohnson5407
@andrewjohnson5407 Ай бұрын
Tinker needs to be a class that’s released with the finial titan expansion. Makes sense theme wise to finally bring them into fold on larger base . Can make it that original tinkers found an old titan base that they refitted to be a base for them . Deactivating the original purpose of the device . Can say they learn everything they know about engineering from Titians. Have them cover tank , ranged dps and melee dps positions . Using goblin shredder or a mech as tank. Range dps sets up turrets that do various attacks . Then melee could be the one with 4 arms that goes in and drops various traps and aor domain effects, playing more of a dps support/ control class . While the range is a pure artillery strike type of play . the tank spec can have a cool stance swap between mech form and normal form ( can make a cool looking power suit just for animation ) make it almost similar to stagger but mech builds up dmg then after a certain point you hop out losing various buffs and armor . Can have play style built around entering and exiting mech . Have mech act as a minion with talents that you can use various abilities with by placing down tech to augment mech . Basically have one minions if talent into it that tanks and all tank abilities are centered around it . Make a tether between character and mech that forces them to be near each other like max of 15 yards from each other or something .you could play as a combat engineer running around buffing construct and placing various gadgets to stun , slow or dmg. Could be really cool if fleshed out and would make most sense with a Titian expect
@aeronothis5420
@aeronothis5420 7 ай бұрын
I just wanted them to use elements of multiclassing for the hero talents. Using the hero talents where you main class a Paladin you could have it multiclass priest for the Holy Paladin hero talents, multiclass Mage with Protection Paladin for Spellbreakers, and multiclass druid or shaman with Retribution Paladin for the Heralds of the Sun. I think you could easily with some thought and creativity come up with 3 multiclass options for each main class that would be lore friendly. I just main a Paladin so it's easier for me to think of options there. I know it's a pipedream because "muh balance" is more important than letting players have fun and enjoy the game.
@TheMrToxin
@TheMrToxin 7 ай бұрын
I can definitely see Headhunter and Rifleman, would be easy to implement. Just one tiny error, Axethrower is different from Headhunter (one uses axes, the other throws spears).
@zzmr_stretchzz8772
@zzmr_stretchzz8772 7 ай бұрын
oh thank god ive been asking for more specs for a while now including hero specs, id like to see very class catch up to druid with 4 specs then they get a hero spec. a few would be hard like DH for example most i could see is a less movement based DH requiring no movement and it being a dps aswell as maybe a ranged DH as a dps. ive sat down for years playing this game so my brain is filled with 100s of class and spec ideas that would drastically expand the choices
@zzmr_stretchzz8772
@zzmr_stretchzz8772 7 ай бұрын
one other big thing i really wanna see is change these hero talents to instead be a hero spec and change the "hero talents" to something else that just makes you change the role of your current spec like taking blood dk and it turns it into a dps spec. there are alot of tank classes id like to dps as the tank spec
@ademord
@ademord 7 ай бұрын
You could for example say „allow my profession to override my class talents", and so you enable alchemist hrough alchemy talents, tinker through engineering, etc. u dont need to start with all professions either. MAKE IT HAPPEN FINALLY.
@jonny8638
@jonny8638 7 ай бұрын
I have been wanting a warden class since legion!
@droidika7720
@droidika7720 6 ай бұрын
i think undead/foresaken will be a neutrally race soon, some of the side quest in SL and DF have made them a friendly for Gilenas/alliance. The customation options for dark rangers of Belfs and Nelfs should be moved to Undead and done they are a neutral race.
@DeznekCZ
@DeznekCZ 7 ай бұрын
Nice would be mixing of specializations. For example: enhancement shaman + furry warrior = chieftain restoration shaman + shadow priest = witch doctor unholy death knight + frost mage = lich
@bluechipBBN
@bluechipBBN 7 ай бұрын
They need to add the Tuskarr Fishmaster hero class/race in War Within. The fans want it please Blizz.
@Mixin88
@Mixin88 7 ай бұрын
I think why they dont use Necromancer and Witch (Doctor, Sea) for this because they keeping it for Class and there spec.
@noktin
@noktin 7 ай бұрын
Druid of the claw should come with the hulking body type. Tauren, and to some degree Kul Tiran, druids would already be covered, but a hulking Night Elf male would look awesome.
@michaelkeha
@michaelkeha 7 ай бұрын
So for rifleman is they went with something more generic in the game like Musketeer or Gunslinger etc it would be incredibly easy to do
@superplatinum
@superplatinum 7 ай бұрын
i stil want to pul my hair out for blizzard not even thinking the DK's wanted a Necromancer for one of the hero talents it's complete stupidity on their part
@philippecharitat467
@philippecharitat467 7 ай бұрын
Warden would likely fall under the Rogue class.
@inexfan89
@inexfan89 7 ай бұрын
If you expected these to be anything other than what was shown on the website, you didn't listen to them at Blizzcon at all. They were quite open about it.
@d.p.1624
@d.p.1624 7 ай бұрын
i just want a glyph to make my priests spells transfer from gold to blue, so i can be a moonpriest finally
@kkswerz
@kkswerz 7 ай бұрын
It would be nice if we could get an Elune based priest. It’s odd to me that night elves follow Elune yet night elf priest get nothing along the lines of being a priest of priestess of Elune but just “the light” like humans do.
@DrRiley01
@DrRiley01 7 ай бұрын
They use to have an Elune spell u til priest specific spells were eliminate and they had star shards. But yea more pest that is a light arcane combo would fit nicely
@Michaelkayslay
@Michaelkayslay 7 ай бұрын
I want a spell breaker ..either a spec for a paladin or a new class. They would look bloody amazing
@jacobnobe2551
@jacobnobe2551 7 ай бұрын
i would really like if i could play as holy dmg caster
@Java_CM
@Java_CM 7 ай бұрын
idk not sold on the idea of "hero specs" yet. Its a neat idea but I don't believe its going to make a huge difference on how we play our class/spec right now but I guess we will see. Also its going to run into the same problem as covenants, say im sold on the idea of a Slayer arms warrior but Colossus arms is way stronger. Also blademaster,spellbreaker, and riftwalker is something I would like to play but I get that they are too much to be added as a spec, hope to see one of them as a class in midnight.
@user-ln4on1fy4h
@user-ln4on1fy4h 7 ай бұрын
The hero talents are simple because they need feedback on the talents to make the Midnight talents good.
@seth7862
@seth7862 7 ай бұрын
I'm hoping that pack leader sees BM hunter bolster their group utility/support.
@mattedmands2085
@mattedmands2085 7 ай бұрын
they could do this by creating hero specs that cover 1 spec from 2 different classes and added some of the tool kit from the other. necromancer being unholy/demonology for instance.
@tjamanirlong6159
@tjamanirlong6159 7 ай бұрын
i find chieftain more a rank then a class. that is saying you have king class or emperor class. that mean varian was a dubble class then as he would be warrior/ king class xD but witch doctor i would like to see
@Alfercruz
@Alfercruz 7 ай бұрын
Why cant necro become a Warlock hero talent for Demonology? It just has to change the model of the demons for undead and the magic to white/blueish
@ademord
@ademord 7 ай бұрын
Sorry if blizzard doesnt full on go for blademasters and tinkers and vampires to go included already in this change they are not fully commited in my mind. Make it finally right for the players once again
@Zokunen666
@Zokunen666 7 ай бұрын
I agree, it's just "bit more" on existing specs. This is why we need a new Void class to flesh out the fantasy for Midnight.
@Conorp77
@Conorp77 7 ай бұрын
Shadow Priests are the void class. One of their hero specs is 'Voidwalker'. I'd like a third DH spec based on a melee void archetype to square the circle.
@Zokunen666
@Zokunen666 7 ай бұрын
@@Conorp77 Light gets Paladin on top of Priest and Fel got DH on top of Warlock. One Priest spec doesn't justify something as huge as the Void especially coming Midnight expansion.
@philippecharitat467
@philippecharitat467 6 ай бұрын
Warden from Rogue is easy, Warden Blink = Shadowstep
@andrepounds7134
@andrepounds7134 7 ай бұрын
Totemic shaman does not sound lame. If picking that brings some more emphasis to totems I'm all for it. Totems have taken such a backseat in shaman gameplay for it being their whole thing.
@Stalker950-l3x
@Stalker950-l3x 7 ай бұрын
The classic Necromancer it is. Been waiting here since I started playing during wotlk days.
@Gunshow0
@Gunshow0 7 ай бұрын
we need an actual full on Warlock / Necromancer
@iano5
@iano5 7 ай бұрын
Wait does this mean the classes will be renamed?! God that's a lot of memory that I am going to need in order to remember these new names
@spindoggytheexplorer2915
@spindoggytheexplorer2915 7 ай бұрын
Based on my analysis Blizzard actually isn’t going to add more any time soon or possibly at all and they aren’t nearly as open to making changes to this system as they claimed they were. There is copious volume of suggestions on the Forums titled as feedback. Blizzard in their most recent community post on this topic basically came out and doubled down that what they’ve presented is what what we’ll be getting, they might be willing to change a couple but they will be far less flexible than we had hoped. The way they decided to tether each hero tree to 2 existing specs has really painted them into a corner and will be making it difficult to add more in the future, just watch.
@god6384
@god6384 Ай бұрын
I wish we just had 4th talent specs....
@xhlb69x
@xhlb69x 7 ай бұрын
I'm just really hoping for a witch doctor that's close to the one in D3, it's so much fun to play. But that'd be like making a whole new class, so it probably won't happen.
@netherlord.mondian
@netherlord.mondian 7 ай бұрын
They could do something similar to Ragnarok Online albeit just through talents. Start as one class then chose which higher class to play as next. They can atleast further extend the talent tree for these options in the future to give players additional options to play as without actually being seprate classes. Im still hoping to get dps priest that uses holy magic rather than shadow\void users
@zytha2890
@zytha2890 7 ай бұрын
wow it took them this long to catch up to warcraft 3? on another note a spellbreaker would be a *great* way to balance pvp better instead of requiring 3-4 players to kill 1 healer which effectively doesn't require much defending *or* team work having something that actively consumes their mana would be great
@beerexpert1057
@beerexpert1057 7 ай бұрын
Warden should be a third spec for Demon Hunter, if DH does not get a void themed spec in Midnight aka Voidreaver.
@Gikaser
@Gikaser 7 ай бұрын
Warden has nothing to do with DH LOL
@yodiggievilla3825
@yodiggievilla3825 7 ай бұрын
i just want a tanking spec for my shaman something like Earth Warder or something like that
@WASDWorks
@WASDWorks 7 ай бұрын
Still waiting on Blood Mage as an option for Mage or Warlock- the inbetween of both classes. Kael'thas was the most prominently known blood mage that used fel, arcane, and fire. Even with this perfect opportunity within Hero Specs they still neglect it as an option sadly. Disappointed you didn't mention them at all during this video considering how interesting they are.
@ebonstar4461
@ebonstar4461 7 ай бұрын
Literally the only thing i want is necromancer. Warlock and dk are not it. At least a 4th spec for dk that makes it a cloth wearing, spellcasting, ranged character
@Pachiku93
@Pachiku93 7 ай бұрын
Blademaster woild be a monk heroic class, not warrior
@a.N.....
@a.N..... 7 ай бұрын
I watched the video and I still don't understand any of this
@mitevstojan4296
@mitevstojan4296 7 ай бұрын
Yeah cause the guy can't speak english
@ScottKent
@ScottKent 7 ай бұрын
Banshee ... I want a Banshee class...or spec...whatever.
@daniiltolmachev4630
@daniiltolmachev4630 3 ай бұрын
There won’t be any other hero talent trees. The title is misleading
@vidarmoon
@vidarmoon 7 ай бұрын
MAKE A NEW SPEC FOR DEMON HUNTER FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
@Lorlic1138
@Lorlic1138 7 ай бұрын
I think Season of Discovery and hero talents are testing the waters for sub classes. I think we’ll see healing mages and tanking warlocks in retail via hero talents in the future.
@lordhoratio
@lordhoratio 7 ай бұрын
Doron, mate, your videos are soooooooo long winded. After all this time that you've been creating and writing scripts, you should be more concise. At this stage, I think you're just trying to pad out the video length.
@jayholt2619
@jayholt2619 7 ай бұрын
👏
@JPLOWMAN2
@JPLOWMAN2 7 ай бұрын
I think he just has more trouble talking in English - no offense dude, but I’m guessing it’s not your first language, is it?
@Conorp77
@Conorp77 7 ай бұрын
He's having fun, leave him be.
@nguyentuition1092
@nguyentuition1092 7 ай бұрын
I Love it. Let him be
@lordhoratio
@lordhoratio 7 ай бұрын
@@JPLOWMAN2 My first language is irrelevant; my English is fluent. Doron includes so much content in his videos which, is barely, or isn't even relevant to the video.What I'm trying to convey is that he should cut the irrelevant content and further expand on the actual topic of each video.
@elasmar1337
@elasmar1337 7 ай бұрын
Just a poor imitation of guild wars 2 elite specs, nothing wrong with doing it, just wish it was more focused and had more depth
@VermilionWake
@VermilionWake 7 ай бұрын
This system was specifically designed to explore class fantasy with a third talent tree, separate from your class and specialization, as well as aiding your specs throughput. As much as I love GW2 and depth in my games (PoE and more), I have to say this: Your take on how this is a mere poor imitation of NO OTHER game than GW2 is the reason why most MMORPGs get uninformed negative hate. TLDR: the hero talents are for flavor. Relax :)
@aristrix7693
@aristrix7693 7 ай бұрын
bro i stopped watching your videos cause they are 98% fake news
@jacktaylor6135
@jacktaylor6135 5 ай бұрын
Not true 😢
@JohnBonachon
@JohnBonachon 7 ай бұрын
I wish we get a warrior hero class derivative 😢
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