You still haven't. You've gone down an anti-mormonism rabbit hole.

It is compelling. Have you checked out Mormon stories? And I’m a never Mormon!!😂😂.

Mormonsism is so wack. It's super interesting it's endless beyond words. My x nest friend of 35 years was mormon she kept it all under wraps. I busted it up at end too much of nothing

Demonic

I only wanted to see what it looked like but the meaning behind them was very interesting especially the temple recommend part! I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness and I was very indoctrinated as well! I watched Big Love on HBO and remembered the temple scene when Barb went.

and this is what people who criticize exmos who speak out need to understand.

@@chlyri What that they gay and lying like you are?

It is telling. Mainly that you never where a member. But don't let it change the dishonest person that you are one bit.

​@@WatchingwaitingG2DI tapped your username and it says you have made 100+ comments on this channel. Are you okay? You seem SO angry, spending so much time and energy stalking ex-mormon content and writing abusive comments on so many videos. Surely if you're content with your religion you wouldn't feel the need to watch this stuff clearly to a compulsive degree and then lash out at these creators with an incredible amount of judgement and ferocity. I wonder where all that rage is coming from... Hope you work it out eventually. If anything, I hope at least you figure out that being mad at people on the internet won't fix anything 💜

@AM-kr4pv I'm amazed at people like yourself who criticize about the very same things most or all of you do. None of you go to church. None of you believe in God. Yet none of you can leave the church alone. The only church that teaches all you pretenders aren't going to Hell. All the rest say you will. How interesting. But since you want to be noisy, I have an injury from defending someone who was outnumbered. Hey, see, bullies, bullies pay. I caught a few myself. So I'm bored while resting. So I see the same routines. People saying they were abused, they were touched, they were members, they were bishops, they read the letter, and they are all lying. All scripted. Almost all are gay. They admit it. Are you? Now, how do I know? The details. Always left out. But you puppets eat it up. And yes, some people are mad because they got busted. They were offended. They can't follow God. So they make up stories. I'm rarely wrong only because I know all the details, recognizethe clues. Just so you know, because you assume so much, I'm not angry (well, I did ream one person). I don't hate anyone. I don't have to. I call people out who lie. And they back down. Why? Because a person who lies has to keep lying. And a liar sooner or later realizes they're pushed it so far they can't do it any longer. I give it up at some point because a person who lies can't be trusted. You can all feed off each other. But I'll leave you with this. Why did most all the early Christians, when taken to the arena, allow themselves to be slaughtered when all they had to do was deny their religion? Because they knew something. Something big & powerful. Not the baby stuff most Christians think. You don't know it and most likely never will. Cowards and liars never will. You could but don't want to. So there it is. Now, don't bother me again. False sincerity is deceptive.

In particular regarding the undergarments, the three embroidered symbols are the level, compasses, and square which figure as "working tools" of Masonry. They look different from their depiction today, because the embroidery pattern is based on Masonic art from Joseph Smith's lifetime

I was a Jobie too. I am also a member. She has so much hate !!

Yep. Most Mormons are not taught about how much Joseph Smith "borrowed" from Masonry. Just as a quick introduction: Joseph Smith was "initiated" into Masonry at 7pm on March 15, 1842, in the Masonic lodge established in Nauvoo in December 1841. Pursuant to a special authorization, Joseph Smith was "raised" to the degree of "Master Mason" in the course of three ceremonies, going from "Entered Apprentice" (@around 7pm on March 15th) to "Fellowcraft" (@around 9am on March 16th) to "Master Mason" (@around 7pm on March 16th) within a space of about 24 hours (all apparently in accordance with some version of "York Masonry"). The Mormon "endowment" rituals and ordinances were introduced by Joseph Smith on May 3, 1842. The similarities were so obvious that Joseph Smith explained that the rituals and ordinances he introduced were purely from the real priesthood of God, and Masonry (implied to be a degenerate and incomplete remnant of the original priesthood) was derived from the ancient priesthood rituals and ordinances that he had introduced and restored. (He was a very opportunistic prophet and revelator, often inspired by things happening to him and around him and then using that to create something "sacred" that he claimed was "revealed" to him by God.) At some point when concocting his fake scriptures, he even inserted references to Masonry, which he clumsily tried to obfuscate simply by switching the "s" in Masonry to an "h"...hence there is a character named Mahonri (Mahonri = Masonry) and Cain is referred to as "Master Mahan" (Master Mahan = Master Mason). The Book of Mormon even contains themes inspired by the Anti-Masonry movement in upstate NY during the 1820s, kicked off by the exposé published by William Morgan in 1826 (complete with illustrations showing the same handshakes that were later used in the Mormon temple) and his subsequent murder. Morgan's widow (Lucinda) joined Mormonism and is counted among Joseph Smith's plural wives. Brigham Young (second grand poo-bah and top prophet guy for Mormonism) used to pose for portraits proudly displaying his Masonic pin. The pin was later air-brushed out of subsequent printings. The first generation of Mormons KNEW that Masonry and Mormonism were linked in many ways. For subsequent generations, the top leadership successfully erased that knowledge from memory, concealing it and avoiding mention of it...and many Mormons, not knowing any better, often flatly deny any connection. In recent years, the church has published relevant information (buried many clicks deep on its website). But most Mormons are still blissfully unaware and wouldn't think to look for the information because they are completely unaware that there is any connection or issue to be researched in the first place.

@TEAM__POSEID0N absolutely right !! Don't have all the answers to exactly what is right or wrong. I just know God is beyond my understanding so I will wait to have all the puzzle put together. Joseph Smith would not be the first man/Prophet to let his own life creep into what he says is from God. Examples from all religions and all churches. Face towards Christ and His Father and the goodness of the light will direct a path. In other words I don't have control over much so I just let My Father handle it.

I only just heard of Job's Daughters during a Christmas parade here in Wyoming a few weeks ago! I'll have to look into it. The name alone was intriguing.

@@Gdavras sometimes people are widowed, dude

That answer sounds like something you’d hear from a cult.

​@@MissSun23 Didn't see the comment referred too but her first husband beat her and locked her in the basement, her Brother nearly killed the guy and got her out. Her and her second husband (Grandpa) were married in 1961 and together for 8 years and had a pile of kids and he cheated on her/fell out of love. Didn't marry the third guy until the 80s and has been married 40+ years.

​@@Thumper17 i'm sorry that happened! and i apologise if my comment sounded weird after the person i originally answered to deleted their answer. they were judging your grandmother for having a third husband (ie having been married multiple times) and shaming her for that seemed ridiculous to me when, as explained in your comments, people can separate for a lot of reasons, sometimes out of their control even (like passing away). have an amazing day and a good end of the year. wishing great things to you and your family.

​@@MissSun23 Oh thank you, I'm glad that other guy deleted their comment. My grandma has never said anything unkind about Grandpa or her first Husband. Grandpa isn't a bad person either, just a ladies man. He was involved with his children and always had money when asked for it. The first husband died maybe 15 years back and the less said about him the better. Be well.

….maybe suggest to her that she give them to a priest or equivalent to give to someone lower income instead of wasting them in future.

They are told to cut the symbols out before disposing of the garments so no one can see the secret (aka sacred) symbol.

​@@lillylunapotter8079they would never let that happen.

Just crazy cult ritual… nothing more or less.

"well someone who's not endowed could end up wearing it!" I had no idea that had anything to do with it, so you need to be well endowed with a massive cock to wear them, wow!

I can't imagine anything worse than losing contact with your beloved son. My mum & I had to break contact with my brother (for different but valid reasons), and that was hard enough. To lose contact when it's not your fault or choice must be devastating. I can only hope that he wakes up one day. Sending you my love and best wishes for your future ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

Your not talking in regard the Church or Jesus Christ are you? Because that is not right. Not church standard at all.

I've been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints my whole life (the actual name of the church, we dont go by Mormon any more). I'm not sure why this happened to your son and I'm so sorry that it did. Please know this is NOT the norm. The church is very family oriented, so this goes against everything we're taught about loving your family. Again, I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this.

Awful. Sign of a cult right there. I am sorry.

Guess Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow didn’t wear these Morman Underwear pieces. 😂🤣. Obviously a cult. Cult! Cult!

Don't stay in a church you do not believe in. Your religion is personal to you and your creator and is a conversation worth having--even with the fear of rejection. I wish you the best.

I have many cousins who are LDS and it saddens me that so many have been lied to. When the book of choice for all things relating to God comes not from the Bible itself but from the Book of Mormon, there’s a problem. Jesus’s salvation is free and His mercy is everlasting to all who give their hearts to Him. No other ceremonies, no special clothes, no mission trips, no physical acts are necessary beyond the yielding of one’s own will and heart to the One who died for our sins and was resurrected after He conquered death. John 3:16 says very simply that God loves us so much that He gave His Son, Jesus, so that anyone who believes in Him will have eternal life. That is the foundation of my faith. Nothing we do can earn us a place in Heaven, other than having faith of Jesus Christ.

The icky feeling you describe says it all. There's literally nothing in Christianity that should make you feel that way (and if it does, it should be deeply questioned). I believe that we're able to feel what is right and what isn't, despite all brainwashing and spiritual abuse. Run!

God will give you strength to leave. Be sure to not allow your kids there too. The LDS makes it very difficult to leave. Husband needs to choose but sadly he loves a religion that glorifies the man.

I wish you luck. It won’t be easy, but I hope whatever conclusion you come to will be one that is fulfilling and truthful.

You wanna know what’s really ickkk it’s common (at least in my family) for the parents to walk around in just their garments in front of their children, they’re literally walking around in just “underwear” in front of kids and my siblings were raised to think that was normal and not at all odd, I genuinely didn’t think it was weird or unusual last year (when I was 20) and my friend found out because my dad was just in his garments and pj pants when my non member friend was over, and she mentioned it and I said “Oh unless we have guests over he doesn’t wear the PJ pants” and I was told that was creepy and weird.

My hot flashes and night sweats would make wearing those a horrible experience!

@@JasperRoberts-jx6jjI don’t think it’s weird. I think it would be considered pretty normal to most people.

@@robindavidson4859 good to know

​@@robindavidson4859It's weird when you consider how MORMONS view these garments. Their views are what makes it weird.

I still have my temple clothes... I might need them one day. 😂😂😂

@@amanda-lynn I use mine as rags for my windows. They leave a brilliant streak-free finish on glass, mirrored, and polished surfaces!

I'm glad you got out and don't need to wear the garments anymore 💗

Congratulations on escaping the cult!

I hope your health is better! Praying for you. (not Mormon).

They're made in distribution centers owned by the church. You don't have to have a temple recommend to put together the fabric to make the garments, but you *do* have to have a temple recommend to sew the symbols on to them. Source: My stepmom used to work at one of the distribution centers here in Utah

Back when he would have been wearing them they would have actually been underwear tho. He was born in 1805 so even for men it would have been unspeakable to go out without an undershirt and all that jazz. Modern day... with washing machines and a more disposable idea of clothing. Yeah. The Garments aren't it.

What makes it so interesting?

@@Vibeagainit’s super interesting for non-Mormons and especially non-religious people. I’ve binge watched her entire channel in one day cause I just find it fascinating. A person who isn’t in this type of community finds it’s very VERY VERY unusual and kinda hard to believe to people believe and live their lives according to these rules. It’s astounding.

Jesus wore garments .

Agreed

Mason,huh? Congrats. Another load of controlling bull____.

@mysterypro_music 0 seconds ago The question is, which came first? The Chicken or the egg? So which came first? The temple ordinances or masonry? JS joining masonry was only a catalyst for him to understand the difference. I can find scriptures in the Bible for just about most everything in the Mormon temple.

you're quite incorrect. "Sounds like" doesn't always drive that ball home, does it? Ps Agenda?

Well, the criminal Joe Smith was a fraud, that's all well and proven beyond any shadow of doubt. Even mormons know this.

completely, totally 100% agree - also raised catholic - respect the faith, the teachings of JC, many good people DOING good things (every religion - all rivers flow from the same source) - but left the structure, the building, the words of *people* - long ago - my GOD is *all* (certainly not 'lord' - why have a male god - hmmm = ) - my GOD *is LOVE* - forgiveness - true, beauty, light, love - can be found anywhere need to change the words - 'to dust' - “For dust you are, and to dust you shall return” - nah mate - we are made from STARS - to the stars we return (simple science - "every atom of oxygen in our lungs, of carbon in our muscles, of calcium in our bones, of iron in our blood - was created inside a star before Earth was born. Hydrogen and helium, the lightest elements were produced in the Big Bang. Almost all of the other, heavier, elements were produced inside stars") 💫💖💫

To me, the one reason to leave the Catholic Church is being able to watch Abbott and Costello on Sunday mornings

@@juliaconnell star dust then?

YEAS! This ! I may not follow a written script or theology, but that don’t mean I don’t got god in my heart! Separating my religious beliefs from organizations has been such a relief. Religion should not be a cult! It should be a personal relationship between you and the creator

@@GrandmaKnightLife well, yes, as a human being - we are literally *literally* made of star dust after? well.... *energy cannot be created or destroyed* another *fundamental* of SCIENCE - "First law of thermodynamics. The first law of thermodynamics is based on the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can be transferred from one form to another." as a human - we are literally made of star dust. what happens to the ENERGY - after?- transformed - the way I see it, understand it - 'spark of the divine - having a human experience' (& others agree, lovely conversation with an older gent the other week - been to war he has, 3 tours among death & destruction - been a literal 'man of god' - minister in church of england (see how ridiculous that looks - "church of england" = ) he agrees with that - statement - definition = 'spark of the divine - having a human experience' - spark - soul - 'holy spirit' my GOD - is *ALL* = everything - we cannot separate ourselves from everything else around us - quantum world, where simply observing quantum *changes* it - from the massive, mind boggling VASTNESS of the universe again - SCIENCE - "energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can be *transferred* from one form to another" 💖💫💖

The funny thing is that the rituals she experienced, as cult-like and weird as they are, represent a very watered-down revised version (you could call it "Mormonism Light"). Until 1990, there was a "penalty" portion in which all of the participants literally pantomimed their own executions by methods such as disembowelment and throat slicing, accompanied by a covenant to allow their lives to be taken by such methods if they ever were to break their oath of secrecy regarding the endowment particulars. Because devout Mormons are pretty good at zipping up their lips and not talking about what happens in the temple, post-1990 inductees are generally unaware of what happened pre-1990. Their parents never told them. Many of the younger generations refuse to believe it. In this video Alyssa also mentioned how creepy it was to shake the hands of an old man through the veil. If she had gone through it prior to 1990, shaking hands would have been the least of her worries. Originally, that part was called the "Five Points of Fellowship" and involved an intimate hugging with an old man, literally conducted as follows: "inside of right foot by the side of right foot, knee to knee, breast to breast, hand to back, and mouth to ear".

you're actually in the same situation as me, i have a few friends who are lds and they assure me its okay to ask questions, but i dont want to come across as rude or anything, but i am still curious so these videos are helpful

The thing is asking stuff like this is considered very disrespectful to Mormons. I’ve heard a lot of people who tend to respond to any questions about Mormon garments with stuff like “I don’t ask you about your underwear so why are you asking about mine” so uh yeah, majority of Mormons would think a video like this as even sacrilegious

​@@RinkuStarswell it doesn't really matter what they think. Why should anyone have to be "respectful" of a creepy oppressive brainwashing cult.

Thank you for being respectful while explaining things. Even though you don't believe in any of it anymore, you weren't wildly offensive like many people are. You stated the facts clearly and simply. Though a couple of things are slightly incorrect or now outdated, most of it was pretty accurate. People actually can get their endowments without getting married or going on a mission, as long as they are over 18 and no longer in high-school. Also, there are some styles of women's garments with the screen printed marks on them now as well. There are also plain t-shirt style women's tops without the weird boob pockets. I never could stand the itchy seams, and never could understand who those pocket styles actually fit correctly anyway. As for those who want to ask your mormon friends questions, please keep asking, especially the younger generation members (around 50 and down). If you get a weird stand-offish response, find another member who will answer you, even if you have to go outside of your immediate community. Old traditions die hard. Many people's parents have raised their kids to be terrified of talking about things. There are respectful ways of having these conversations without being so secretive. As long as you approach them with an attitude to truly understand and learn, and not to attack or belittle their beliefs, someone should be comfortable sharing. Things are changing and moving away from the old-school secretive way they used to be. And surprisingly, I think the church is trying to put out its own version of educational videos. They don't come with personal experiences like this one, but hopefully, they will encourage more questions from kids who are thinking of going through the temple to learn what they are going to be doing. Less mystery will hopefully lead to less shock and confusion when they do go. And if they choose to go, to actually be ready to make the covenants they will be making. Things have changed so much even since I went through the temple in the early 2000s. I think it is a lot less freaky now, and I am glad they have gotten rid of a lot of those creepy things, some I experienced that they no longer do, and all of the ones I hear about from before my time. It is so much more basic and simple now, and leaves so much more room for first-time attendees to learn and feel the spirit without being distracted by all of the weirdness. I hope that parents can be more open with their kids and prepare them the way they should be actually "prepared", not just worthy. But if not, at least the kids can look things up on their own. There is quite a bit of info and videos on the church's website when you type garments or temple in the search bar. Way more than there used to be for sure. Here are a couple of them that I found. newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-updates-temple-garment-video www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/what-is-temple-endowment?lang=eng

Oh don't worry, you're still in the dark

Some things in The Church are so ridiculous that they don't even want to talk about them amongst themselves.

wait, what?? i grew up mormon (exmo) and all i heard from my mom all the time was "my garments aren't showing right?🥺" and when i'd walk in on a parent on accident they'd be wearing the whole garment set lol

@@akiraagreste359 I would occasionally see my parents wearing garments, but I just thought it was weird long underwear, not necessarily something that has to do with religion. They definitely never talked about it though.

@@LockeDemosthenes2 Same here. I thought it was just the underwear that they chose to wear. I had no idea for years that it was commanded by their God.

It's partof our secrets. You'll learn in temples

It sounds like you raised a very powerful daughter who can make up her own mind about things. Well done, you! 👍♥️♥️♥️♥️

Women can't hold the priesthood, but we are in leadership in the different auxiliaries. We work together as a unit and support each other. We are not oppressed by our gender at all. It's not even a thing - really

golly

Where did the Masons get there rituals from? Maybe the ancient Temples of the old and new testament? John the Revelator in the Book of Revelations says: "An angel shall fly through the midst of heaven and bring forth the Everlasting Gospel." What church claims this has happened and are living the prophesies of the Bible while all other churches are still waiting for all these Biblical prophesies to happen? And yet all these prophecies must come to pass before the Savior returns again and yet they are proclaiming he is almost here? "My people are a covenant making people" " My people are a pecular people" So righteous covenants according to this person is something she considers wrong. Those same symbols have also been found just outside the walls of Jerusalem where they believe the ancient temple was recently discovered.

@@Homepageturned You write: "Where did the Masons get there rituals from? Maybe the ancient Temples of the old and new testament?" Masonic rituals are not that old. The earliest records of them date to the 14th century. They evolved from the initiation rituals of medieval stonemasons into the craft guilds. The rituals were designed to communicate the values and secrets of the stonemason's trade to men/boys who were illiterate. Masonic rituals use King Solomon's Temple (the history/construction of which is described in 1 Chronicles & 1 Kings) is purely a literary device to establish the time/place of the tragedy performed in the Master Mason (3rd) degree and as historical context for the origins/lessons of the stonemason's trade & tools given in the Entered Apprentice (1st) and Fellowcraft (2nd) degrees of Craft Masonry. Freemasonry is not ancient...despite many attempts to make it so (including yours...and your reference to the Revelation of St John of Patmos has absolutely nothing to do with it). It incorporates a lot of ancient, esoteric concepts from the Greeks, Romans, Hebrews and Egyptians (e.g. Hermeticism) but, for the most part, it's a product of Enlightenment-era England.

​@@HomepageturnedNo, Freemasonry developed it's final form in the 18th century. Anything dating back before that will not have anything related to the temple ceremony. The third degree of Freemasonry, connecting to the construction of Solomon's temple, is a 18th century creation. Similarly, Anderson's constitutions describe a mythical history, dating back to Adam, and these were written in 1723.

fiction = religion...

Joseph did write fiction!! Have you heard of the book of Mormon?

pretty much. anything to further indoctrinate them.

I also know a bunch of people who aren't married or have never been on a mission and they are also endowed. I was looking for a comment that said this. The more video's i see about the church the more cultish it sounds which is weird to me, because it feels so good to go, but when you realise how many things they are keeping from you, it starts feeling very suspicious and kinda dark tbh.

@@gismeecrestian8347 Any religion or spiritual belief can sound cultish, depending how it's presented. For that matter, many secular organizations and affiliations (including political ones) can also seem very "cultish" in their insistence on holding similar opinions and worldviews.

​@@kristinab1078 and most of them are actual cults, they just have to much money and power.

Is it REALLY important to get people out of their churches, synagogues, temples, and ashrams? Are people not capable of making decisions for themselves about their religious or spiritual lives?

I am an active member and I’m perfectly happy with my life and wouldn’t want it any other way. I respect other people in their religions. We need to build people up and not down. There are wonderful people of all faiths and no faiths.

@@kristinab1078 i think you misunderstood my comment. i said “the” church, as in “the mormon church”. i go to church every week haha i think church is great, most religious are great. but not mormonism. and like i said, this video is good for people trying to get out of the mormon church.

@@rachelsuchla2408 i’m also an active member in my church haha

Don’t ask me why got dunked 15times baptism for dead made no sense two me when in London just another ritual

lol

My grandma was also buried in her temple clothes. I always wondered why they had to wear them as well as what goes on. These videos are answering so many of my questions.

oh the suFferIng!

Is it so "sad" that people acknowledge and develop the spiritual in their lives? It seems unfortunate that people limit their view and regard themselves simply as material beings with a mind and body, but no spirit or soul, but to each to his/her own.

a colt?

​@@Vibeagain ???

Most religious organizations are cults, IMO

Richest church in North America

You have to buy underwear from Walmart or any other store don’t you? So, why can’t a church sell the garments to members who choose to wear them? Garments are given for free to those who can’t afford them.

@@alyssahedelius1136 because their a cult who profits off the suffering of others. They are just as bad as walmart.

It’s actually really common.

lol

@@Vibeagain IKR. A lot of these comments are ridiculous. It's hilarious how people will leave the church, but then can't leave the church alone.

I certainly agree, @@tracienielson7183 Even from out here on my own looking in, I certainly agree

Amen to social media. Why all the secrecy?

@@langleybeliever7789 Because sacred things are not to be made light of.

That's funny

Your parents taught you modesty. They sound like good parents.

It just sounds like you were raist to dress modestly as a kid. That's normal for most families, religious or not.

lol I agree!

were his garments made from wool? wood doesn't burn easily. There would be a big issue with nylon.

God had control not the underwear

* Jobie

Because Jesus wore garments, right?

I've learned about what various friends believe from chanting for hours and striking yoga poses to sitting in silence in a cold temple for an entire weekend while fasting. I guess it's different, but I can handle that it is their belief and choose not to refer to them or their beliefs as "nuts."

Yes they make it as beautiful as they can, spend millions on it. To simulate getting to heaven. To motivate you to stay with the church because they think they have the only ticket to heaven. Which is definitely not true.

Plus it's the third iteration of what's already in the Book of Moses and the Book of Abraham.

you don’t have to be married/go on a mission to get endowed. you can do it whenever you feel ready - and it’s not based on gender like this

wait until you hear about how black men couldn't get the priesthood until the 1970s

@@mercury4885 yeah I knew that too. That’s also very messed up.

​@@mercury4885that and the reasons they give for women not holding the priesthood always caused cognitive dissonance for me. I would ask questions because that's how they say God would answer my questions but I was never satisfied with my answers. They were always so vague and almost dismissive about how things don't add up. Just have faith - put your guard down.

Wish I’d been a fly on the wall for those conversations!! 😂

lol, the two piece ones could be pulled down. the one piece... there's a hole.

Have you let you know this made me laugh so hard.

My grandmother got mad at my grandfather and sewed the flap shut on his one-piece. He discovered it in an airport bathroom on a business trip. 😂 One of my favorite stories!

@rebeccahaynie825 ooh I like your grandma already! That's so clever too.

We talk about the temple all the time at home! My kids know a lot about it while they are young and even sing songs about it at church. They also see garments all the time ( boys see their dad in garments and girls see mom in garments, just like any regular underwear but more modest) As soon as kids reach the age of 11 turning 12, they also get to start attending the temple if they wish to do so. Never forced, always a choice.

Do Catholics have access to all the same rights and ceremonies at the same age regardless if they are prepared or not?

Kids attending the temple from age 12 is a very limited experience - just to do baptisms for the dead and confirmations. They don't do any of the adult washing and anointing and other stuff.

@@kristinab1078 Amazing, isn't it. People have such strong opinions about something they know little or nothing about. I find it amusing when people watch ex-mo videos and think they are getting the "truth".

Yes

That’s what I just commented too.

It’s shocking how many inaccuracies are in this video.

You have to get a Temple "referral" or some such thing and fill out a lengthy questionnaire. It asks if you drink coffee and/or green tea and a multitude of other strict questions. If you can pass it or lie, you can get in.

@@jolenedelilys2589 🤣

It's really not like that. You either believe the doctrine, or you don't. If you do, you live accordingly. If you don't, you don't. There is no deception involved. And it's a "cult" only as much as any group of people united by an idea is a cult. But young people usually aren't mature enough to understand this, and might feel familial pressure.

I’m so sorry about everything you went through! That was not Christianity. That was a cult!

Yep. Got away from pentecostal church. Best thing I ever did

@@ginny3219if you don’t mind me asking. Do you still believe in and follow Jesus?

I don't know much about Pentecostal religion. Don't they speak in tongues and females have to wear dresses all the time? I wonder if there is ex Pentecostal KZfaq channel that is like this one.

God doesn’t hate homosexuals. He hates the sin of homosexuality. A man shall not lie with a man as with a woman. God loves all people. (I am not Pentecostal, I just believe the Bible)

I snuck in with my host family when my oldest host sister was getting married. Nobody asked me for a temple recommend card. Good thing, because I’m an atheist I waited with the younger kids in the aula downstairs while the two set of parents attended the ceremony.

Your mom and my mom would be fast friends 🔥

I am an atheist and it is what it is! I think that I would love your mom as I, too, want to go to burning man but feel too old. 😪

What is burning man?

Anyone over the age of 21 can choose to do the endowment. It is not frowned upon at all because if they are desiring to follow Jesus’ teachings and that leads them to the temple, it’s perfectly acceptable, considered a good thing. They simply go through the temple preparation classes, which have been around for years, as far back as the 1993, likely longer as older siblings of mine took them. These classes do prepare you and you are not taken by surprise once you go to the temple. Then after they go through the temple recommend process.

ignore linda, all the temple prep classes tell you is that promises are important. from personal experience, the kids in my ward didn't get an explanation before we did our first baptisms/confirmations for the dead, and as an adult attending BYU they don't talk specifics about what happens in the temple either, even if you're actively preparing for a wedding or a mission. the garments, the handshakes, the surrealism, the feeling of being lost & confused when it's all said and done- the ritual of it all is sprung on you intentionally- it puts pressure on you not to back out. not in front of your peers and your church leaders, in front of your family, in front of god.

Ummmm, I got my endowment prior to marriage. Just, saying. However, it's not encouraged.

@@denafisher981 Was it a long time before your wedding, or was it a few weeks before? My understanding is that it’s usually tied to a major life transition which can place a lot of pressure on the member to make covenants that they can’t fully consent to. I’m sure there are some members who are very happy with their life inside the church, but there are problematic aspects to it.

@buildingamystery74 I was returning to activity after having a child out of wedlock. I was also dating a man (not my baby daddy) with an eye to marriage, however while he was LDS, he had issues and was unlikely to ever go to the temple himself. We'd been married for about 4 years after my endowment before he got his. He's still a member. I left after he and I had been married for 20ish years. I'm 15 years exmo now.