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Mormon Stories Podcast

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@victoriachristian4379 3 жыл бұрын

I love Chris Shelton! So happy to come across this interview in Mormon Stories!

@kendallweaver6386 4 жыл бұрын

Very well done, John! Thank you for your open mindfulness.

@kamilziemian995 4 ай бұрын

Great discussion.

@jeffburnett2905 4 жыл бұрын

John reacting simply “...Oh.” to some of Hunbard’s craziest shit is the best.

@rnrpeg1 6 ай бұрын

JOHN! RUN! FAST! RUN NOW!!!!!!!!!

@davewilson4094 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to shed some light on L. Ron Hubbard's involvement with Jack Parsons, O.T.O, and Aleistor Crowley. There is an active O.T.O. group, the oldest in the USA in Salt Lake City where anyone can attend what they call a Mass. During the ceremony, you will be able to witness first hand what is meant by "Sex Magick". The organization is not as dark and sinister as portrayed in this interview and definitely has no relationship to Satanism. Both Mormonism and O.T.O. have roots from John Dee, the original spy of Queen Elizabeth of England during the 1500s. John Dee developed a magical practice known as Enochian Magic where he used scrying (looking into a dark glass) to develop an angelic language by contact angels. To mormons this may sound very familiar. The Smith parchment contained what is called angelic sygils which originate from John Dee. All of this information is contained in Mormonism and the Magic World by D. Michael Quinn. Aleistor Crowley barrowed heavily from John Dee, as did Joseph Smith. Later on, as it seems, so did L. Ron Hubbard.

@fatemeetsluck 10 ай бұрын

Exactly the information I was looking for thank you

@ScottBub 2 жыл бұрын

41:30 has got me cracking up laughing. When Chris says that they are trying to create a moon child John says “oh” and I don’t know exactly why, but it has me dying laughing. Probably because John is genuinely shocked and trying to be serious being conscious of how his reaction might seem to people that believe things like that, but I had to watch it a couple times.

@aliciamontero7061 4 жыл бұрын

Oh two of my favourites youtubers !!!!🤩🤩🤩

@MegaJohn144 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate Chris filling in the background bio of L. Ron Hubbard, as well as the history of the church. I was a member of the Scientology public in the early 80's. I attested to Clear in about 1/4 the time people usually do. I took basic training, basic run downs, auditing through Grade II, and read everything I could. It was a good experience for me, and made me a much better person. To me there were a lot of parallels between LDS teachings and Scientology. (At least, I was able to make the connection.) One thing I like about Scientology is you don't have to accept anything on faith. You can demonstrate the truths for yourself. I used to have trouble being around and understanding people, but the information I gained from my readings in Scientology helped me understand people better because there was technology behind it. Being a techie/engineering type, this appealed to me. Like Mormonism, there are a lot of break-off groups in Scientology which are continuing LRH research. I understand a lot of these members helped Hubbard do research in the early days, and contrary to Chris, LRH actually did research. Much of the information he gained about past lives and the history of the universe, he got from people bringing up items in session. What would be interesting to me would be if multiple PC's said the same thing. How big was his sample size? I hope there are more follow-on interviews. I would like to hear about Chris' life, what he did in the Sea Org, and why he left. I would like to hear why he got involved in the first place, and something positive. They have a great anti-drug program. Much of Scientology is based on Eastern thought, and is actually quite valuable. Billions of people all over the world are into Buddhism, upon which a lot of Scientology is based. If Buddhism is also a fraud, then John ought to have ex-Buddhist and ex-Hindus on the program and expose those religions, too. Bottom line: there is a lot of crap in Scientology, and their institutional organization has gone to hell, just like Mormonism has, but there are some sound principles as well, but they aren't doing the world any good because Scientology copyrights the daylights out of stuff, and they have such a bad reputation that nobody will trust them. Same with organized religion.

@richlisola1 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t tell if you work for the cult, are in the cult, or just another squirrel 🐿.

@pansprayers 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely nothing good about Scientology is unique, and nothing unique about it is good. Narcanon is a con, the only way to 'investigate' Scientology is if you come to the conclusions they want you too, and it's bankrupted and continues to bankrupt and ruin people - while engaging in human trafficking, mostly focused on bringing in vulnerable people from developing countries to work in horrible conditions, for little or nothing, and ripping off government programs to do it. There's nothing redeemable about the plagurized ramblings of Hubbard.

@seancarson7103 Жыл бұрын

Oh by a thread the constitution would only be saved by saints in the north and Russia Jewish ( the Mormons had a belief I lie not that their book was more correct more true then the Bible no lie this belief also had that by only them when fond s burial of the dead could would a Jew who has already died in most cases be saved.drink smart be happy for one day you may wake up or die in utah! And another same gang thing is one has a secret navy the other has a secret army and they were up to a lot in the 60s 70s80s

@llt8101 2 жыл бұрын

Do we know that the childhood solo travel to go find his father wasn't just another of his tall tales?

@spiderb3367 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao so funny when John can’t get a word in

@OssieRichards Жыл бұрын

Yes it was my first time observing that LOL

@garthof_izar2688 4 жыл бұрын

Did L. Ron Hubbard use pick-up lines like "Hey little girl, if you sleep with me, your entire family will be exalted in heaven. If you don't, an angel with a flaming sword will kill me."...?

@aprilholiday4473 4 жыл бұрын

LRH was a philanderer, conman, and an all all-around awful person, but I don't know of any accounts of him having a proclivity for underage girls.

@andreadiamond7115 4 жыл бұрын

Garth of_Izar .....While I’ve often commented Joseph Smith = L Ron Hubbard, I’ve never heard of L Ron being a pedophile.

@sleepycalico 4 жыл бұрын

@@aprilholiday4473 see bullet 12: zelphontheshelf.com/the-millennials-brief-guide-to-the-ces-letter/

@sleepycalico 4 жыл бұрын

@@andreadiamond7115 see bullet 12: zelphontheshelf.com/the-millennials-brief-guide-to-the-ces-letter/

@tamara6212 3 жыл бұрын

@@aprilholiday4473 Initially, the original Commadors Messangers were little girls, one boy, ages 11-13. Hubtard was a freak in every way shape and form. He was a drunk, drug addict, liar, plagiarist, etc, etc, the list is extensive. He didn't deserve the attention he received.

@snookerb6777 4 жыл бұрын

Oh those pesky Freemasons

@dragoncup9099 11 ай бұрын

Can someone find his interview with leah remini?

@truefuschniken 4 жыл бұрын

Loveee your podcast!!! ❤️

@areyouhappynow99 3 жыл бұрын

This guy looks like Nate Eaton Boise ID News.

@stevenparkin6486 4 жыл бұрын

John, your descriptions of the November 2019 THRIVE Conference are confusing and/or deflating to some of us; and I respectfully ask for clarification. In episode #1189, you talk up the Conference with phrases such as "General Conference for Ex-Mormons", "..for those who have left or are leaving Mormonism", (and similar wordings) yet prior phrases included more-neutral descriptions of the Conference along with invitations to current Mormons inside the Struggle. Many Borderland Mormons are trying hard to make Mormonism work for them within the framework of family and community; and they/we need to know if this Conference is for us. Will there be specific, intentional, targeted presentations and/or discussions for people navigating the Borderlands? We accept that you and your team can create a conference for any audience. We only ask that the Advertisements and Introductions match the Content.

@ninetwentyseven 3 жыл бұрын

There is nothing wrong with the word Gypsy.

@pansprayers 2 жыл бұрын

It's largely considered a bigoted slur. But keep telling yourself otherwise.

@aprilholiday4473 4 жыл бұрын

@32:00 John says "before they became secular." Neither the Satanic Temple nor the Church of Satan, currently or historically, believe in a literal satan. He is viewed by them as an archetype.

@tamarajessup1398 4 жыл бұрын

I'm both surprised and disappointed. As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I regard both God and Satan as being actual beings, albeit differing from one another in form and substance, as God kept both His first (premortal) and second (mortal) estates, thus gaining the ability to reach His third (glorified) estate as an inmortal Being, while Satan lost his first estate by rebellion, so is eternally consigned to that estate, unable to progress further. Thus God is a glorified man, while Satan is a dammed, sad damned, spirit, as are those who followed him. I had thought it reasonable to believe that Satanists were as aware of whom they worship as I; it's a revelation to learn that they don't even know that, but regard the being they consider worthy of worship as not even meeting the qualifications to be a being at all, merely a concept. Most peculiar.

@suzanne2976 4 жыл бұрын

Tamara Jessup You are confused because in nearly all other Christian religions, God isn’t a human being.. He became man as the person of Jesus Christ through the immaculate conception of Mary. Mormons are the only Christians who believe in a Heavenly Father AND Heavenly Mother. The triune God...God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost is what other Christians believe. Mormons, from my study of Mormonism with my local missionaries, believe that they are separate beings, not “entities” or energies. Those who follow Satan do not believe that he is a human being.

@brentamills 4 жыл бұрын

@@tamarajessup1398 we all gotta look a little closer at the real story loll. Very soon we will all see who is who, And what is of the devil and the things we have never known are of God,, Who is to Evan say they devil is a man?? Loll

@jduluoz3131 2 жыл бұрын

Also, OTO isn’t a satanic or “black magic” organization and blood magick isn’t a thing.

@heavenbound7 2 жыл бұрын

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Ephesians 2:8-9 John 3:16 Romans 10:9-13 Ephesians 1:13-14 OSAS Ephesians 4:30 OSAS KJV Bible

@pansprayers 2 жыл бұрын

What about it? You're literally just typing random words and numbers. Context is everything.

@heavenbound7 2 жыл бұрын

@@pansprayers 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV Bible [1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; [2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. [3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV Bible [8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 10:9-13 KJV Bible [9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. [11] For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. John 3:16 KJV Bible For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 14:6 KJV Bible Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. OSAS Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV Bible [13] In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, [14] Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. OSAS Ephesians 4:30 KJV Bible And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.