MorningTide Fishing for my always be the same ... it's like who you love more dady or mamy ... with this two reel are the same you can't decide between your father's you love both.. it's the same between this two reels

I am just surprised you didn't talk about the drag a bit more. I feel like a fair amount of people probably picked the Dogfight because of its supposedly superiority in max drag. 66lbs vs 55lbs is big enough a difference. But, does it really matter in the real world? Can people actually handle 66lbs of max drag or rod for that matter? Is probably more of a perception thing that the Dogfight is a tougher reel because of its max drag. Oh and the name probably helps too LOL.

MorningTide Fishing what do u think of the penn slammer 3

25kg for the Stella and 30kg for the Saltiga isn't that much difference. A good real world example is the latest Oman film where Jonny's fighting those GT. He showed me what drag he was using and it felt like about 15kg - 20kg, if needed he would hold the spool at times to add extra pressure and when I asked him about that he said he prefers to do it by hand so the actual drag is more manageable and you can control when you a want to dead set stop it without adding a dangerous amount of drag (dangerous in terms of running along the rock and all of a sudden it decides to go again mid step and you go flying haha). On this next GT trip I think I'll take a similar approach with the Dogfight and have the drag sitting around 15kg-20kg and just lock up by palming the spool. One extra thing to think about is on the Oman trip all the fellas there were using Stellas...

Haven't felt the Slammer mate, few people talking about it though so we'll have to suss it out.

tommy nolan nah get a Shakespeare Durango

Nah zebco bro

JARVIS WALKER FOR LIFE!!!

Brad Mundie's I have one too there so good for a cheap reel

A BG would shit it’s pants if u took it ledge fishin lolll

IM DEPLORABLE you're insane! Stella all day...

ha this could go on and on like these guys in the video. lol

That is the same problem I had with Penn was the drag.

Great info mate!

MorningTide Fishing thanks bros love y'all's channel. Content is super original

only fish Van Staal Vr series now... they are killer!

Yeah, that's a great point mate, VS really is for getting sandy and salty, they're made for it. The Saltiga/Stella aren't, but we don't use them for surfcasting and nowadays are very careful not to get them wet! So different reels, different applications. I'm glad the VS worked out for you!

MorningTide Fishing u got be joking both reels good enough for surfcasting n have some dunks n heavy splash offcourse not by anymeans reel them under water or throw them in sand ) My saragosa 6000 having multiable dunks in every trip ( 6hrs or more of surfcasting 10 times a month ) n still running smooth .. Best reel for money surely is saragosa n the best money can buy is stella , well this is me.

We used to get the Saltiga/Stellas pretty wet every time we went fishing (dunks) and there would be something pretty seriously wrong with them within about 3-6 months of this kind of use. We only ever rinse them after a fish though so if you're doing proper maintenance maybe they last longer, nowadays we try not to let them even get splashed (still do a bit) and they're lasting closer to 9 - 12 months. What we know of the VS you can even fish them under water no worries, just a rinse after is all they need so that's why we recommended the VS over the Stella/Saltiga (for being submerged each time he went).

Mike Ross yep there’s nothing like getting paid to have an opinion hey 👍

Hey mate yeah only talk about it here because we're asked daily "why don't you use Van Staal" "Van Staal would be perfect for you". We really do just care about the feel of the reel and after 5 days spinning in the hot sun when you're 7 hour into that day's session you really, REALLY have to love the feel of ur setup to have the energy to keep spinning. In the past I've seen all of the boy's sit down when it's quiet because they don't love their gear and when we put this much time and $ into our trips we gotta make the most of it. And you're totally right, our Saltigas and Stellas wouldn't last a day in the surf and we're not trying to take anything away from the Van Staals durability, just for our application it's not suitable but we're trying to get that across so we don't have to keep answering the same question haha.

Thanks for the reply. I've watched your vids, great content and very entertaining. That being said, I haven't seen any of your fishing vids that you would require using a van staal. It will be pointless with your style of fishing. Whoever asked you why not use it, are smoking something pretty potent

Totally agree. Different tools for different jobs.

Yup. Best is just get both Saltiga & Stella. Usually for a trip, I'll bring 2 Daiwa, 2 Stella. In the event that I got spooled by a fish. I will just change a reel and continue fishing.

Flatheadfletch interesting to know because you always here the opposite! How old is your saltiga if you don’t mind me asking

I never bought the new stella because I feel the 08 stella is a more solid fishing tool. The new stella just seems like an over priced stradic..where as the old stella had better gearing, and the line roller and more rugged seals.

Tackle Advisors r u sure ! Better gears when 13 main gear is 20% thicker n stronger reel handle etc .. Not even if istated by alan hawk

I think the pinion of the 08 is a better material, and the main gear is plenty strong. There aren't too many reports of stripped stella main gears. They're out there...just not many. And the stronger handle...Sure they can make one out of a crow bar. But is it necessary. I never heard of a stella handle getting loose or failing....Though I had a 250lb bigeye hit the spread at a 90 and before the clip popped the line layed on my SW's handle knob...Shredded the rubber and cooked the bearings :) Even if you're capable of fishing 50lbs of drag...you can really only winch a few pounds realistically. The beefed up main gear seemed like a way to advertise "stronger" while actually being cheaper and adequate. The stainless pinion (and that sucker is polished smooth not like most stainless pinions)and main gear with the same size and pattern gear teeth made from the same material (forged hardened aluminum I think chemically hardened) just not as thick ...Really doesn't do much to "strengthen" the gear. As the brass pinion will wear faster. I love stellas. I have owned 6 (3 now 2 FI's 1 08 sw) I just not the biggest fan of the 13 sw. I love metaniums but thing the Antares is an overpriced bloated Novelty..Love the Stradic and fully believe it is superior to the current sustain. but hope this years upcoming Sustain is the reel deal.

Now that you have both...Do you think the Stella has a smoother drag under higher drag pressure?

Andre Pienaar what slammer do you have?

Wade Barrett 6500 with 50lb 8x multicoloured braid

Andre Pienaar I've got a 10500 and I love it

pretty far man

Hi mate, before reading the comments in this vid we hadn't heard of either but since looking em up they seem like a pretty rad reels for the price. When we have some excess coin we'll have to buy a few of these reels everyone's talking about and see how they go.

www.morningtidefishing.com/collections/apparel/products/mtf-psycho We're in a pretty weird zone at the moment with apparel because we're switching over to a bigger manufacturer and it's kinda taking a lot longer than we expected. There's a few sizes left for that ^ but I'm guessing not your size. Bear with us for a couple more months and things should start flowing again with new designs and big restock.

Haven't heard that but sounds scary!

Hi Mate, Uni knot with 4 wraps to the lure. We don't wind on the leader knot to the spool and always cast with our finger on braid, some of us it's right near the finger others further up.

Haven't used the Twinpower but you could ask Ryota - facebook.com/ryotafishing/ (I'm pretty sure that was his reel before the Dogfight. Also it was him that mentioned new Stella next year I think he found that out from the tackle shop owner? But Maybe ask him that as well.

Hi mate it all depends on how big these "Big" poppers are, like how heavy are the lures you want to throw? Also what species and size of fish are you after and what's your rod's rated to?

ignition. I heard there r some third parties putting some seals instead of magseal oil which bring them to where they started! But still far better when u r thousand miles away from any authorized service centre

Stephen Galvin yes bro that is crazy value and crazy performance reel.

Only just heard about it here in the comments, looks interesting and hopefully is a rival to the Saltiga/Stella!

hahahaha

That cheap. For small fish ok . Not good for big fish. I have 3 but now sale it . You pay what you got . Around $300 you got biomasster, sharagosa, penn slamer 3... or cheaper DaiwA bc .

Never tried it mate, used some cheaper penn's but that was years ago.

The caps are coming back in soon (next few weeks) the Black Psychos we were gunna chill on while we sort this new manufacturer out, but once this big shift happens we should be able to keep everything stocked up (just have to bare with us for a few months).

Hi mate we've never used the Twin power but the price is pretty close to a Stella, I'd almost say save the extra and go the Stella. I've heard people say the Catalina is much closer to the Saltiga than the Twinpower is to the Stella (in terms of quality) but don't know from personal experience.

Super, super reel

Haven't tried it, only heard about it today here in the comments. Hopefully it's up there with the Saltiga/Stella because it would be great to have another contender in the "nicest feel" department.

Hi mate, we are starting to do them on our vlog channels but haven't put up too many. Here's a GT tackle talk film if you haven't seen it - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7Z9nLaoxJi3np8.html

MorningTide Fishing Yea I've seen all your videos on all channels multiple times just cause you guys have good content.

Never tried it mate, we used cheaper reels up until about 5 years ago. Most of the new improved salt water style cheap reels weren't around back then so we should prolly buy some of them just to help you guys out with reviews.

It would be interesting to see how long it would last with you guys hahah Alan hawk gave it a good review

It's not going to explode on your first fish haha but just wouldn't be up to having locked drag with peeling line/grabbing the spool etc. over and over and over on big GT.

Thank ^^

Haven't used em mate so can't say! Older model Daiwa's we'd only recommend the Catalina and up but it could be these new reels are different.

Ok thanks for the feedback, I'll just chuck some money together and get a good reel. Please better to get one good one then break ten shit ones.

Exactly mate, we realised pretty quick we'd already spent close to $1000 each in about a year spinning and every reel was completely broken haha. So we just stepped up to the Catalina and Saltiga's. Actually to put an expensive reel into perspective, I just bought a lure that was $150 which I might loose to a Mackerel first cast haha, everything's relative and a $1000 reel that will last you many many years if you take care of it is actually a good investment if you plan on fishing a lot.