Mortal Kombat 2 vs Shaolin Monks vs Mortal Kombat (2011) vs Mortal Kombat 11 | Canon Ball

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The4thSnake

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@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake Жыл бұрын
For clarity: It's not my birthday today. This video was supposed to release yesterday, but KZfaq didn't let me alter midroll placement on any of my videos for the entire day, so yesterday's video had one about a minute before the end (thanks for that) and I refused to risk this one being fucked too, so I held off for a day and I refuse to rerender it to update the ending monologue.
@DCMarvel2009
@DCMarvel2009 Жыл бұрын
At least you fittingly released a Line Through Time video on your birthday to discuss MK birthdays!
@GhostFan-ev4di
@GhostFan-ev4di Жыл бұрын
Happy belated Birthday
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios Жыл бұрын
Also for clarity: Oooh, new Canon Ball Thumbnail artstyle.
@MysticEle
@MysticEle Жыл бұрын
Happy belated though and cheers for working on your birthday for us.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Жыл бұрын
okay
@jeanluca2002
@jeanluca2002 Жыл бұрын
The "Get... Your... Shit... Together!" perfectly syncing whit Older Jonhy's lips makes my day.
@JomasterTheSecond
@JomasterTheSecond Жыл бұрын
17:33 I'm so glad Scorpion got tricked in MK4, because it gave us the best part of the game. The bit where Sub Zero whispers "Arrright" in his ending.
@jeremyabbott4537
@jeremyabbott4537 Жыл бұрын
13:54 Sub Zero bustin' a move so good he's on fire
@Sizifus
@Sizifus Жыл бұрын
Ah, I see you're the man of culture as well, this moment is untapped meme potential
@Jellyman4
@Jellyman4 Жыл бұрын
💀
@bigmanliam
@bigmanliam 10 ай бұрын
Lmao
@kanseiyamazaru435
@kanseiyamazaru435 Жыл бұрын
I think Mortal Kombat as a whole might be one of the main reasons why a LOT of people will always say, "The story/lore of fighting games never matters" because it is such a mess most of the time.
@ds.6647
@ds.6647 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget! Almost all main characters never die for good
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 Жыл бұрын
It was mostly consistent in the Midway era (except the non-canon Shaolin Monks).
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Жыл бұрын
Honestly, on that front, as bad _Mortal Kombat_ has been at times, I would say that other fighting games weren't great about that aspect either, especially _Tekken_ of the more mainstream fighting games. That series basically went off the rails as soon as _Tekken 3_ was given _Tekken 4_ onward is a Mishima soap opera where everyone else barely matters. And then the NRS Nation attacked with its immensely destructive weapon: Awful Writing. I mean, hell, as campy as they both are overall, the writing consistency and story between _Street Fighter: The Movie_ and the first live-action _Mortal Kombat_ are basically night and day. (And then _Annihilation_ happened and somehow it only got worse from there story-wise in the _MK_ movies.)
@EverybodyWearsaMask
@EverybodyWearsaMask Жыл бұрын
i dont like this time travel zombie shit
@lordshura9717
@lordshura9717 Жыл бұрын
Nah, that's definitely Street Fighter's fault.. Plus you have to take into account, how many people were actually that heavily invested in the story as opposed to just picking their favorite characters learning combos and beating everyone in the arcades.
@MysticEle
@MysticEle Жыл бұрын
I *think* the implication is that the "Smoke" of MKX was the Enenra that the cult sacrificed him to, and that the human was now either gone, or sealed inside like the demon was as an inversion due to his death in 9. Problem with that is that literally NOTHING was said about it either way, and hell, you'd only know about the inner demon at all if you had played 9. That's how little X explained.
@lunakingsley.7247
@lunakingsley.7247 Жыл бұрын
Except it is literally explained by enenra you idiot.
@BlazedApples
@BlazedApples Жыл бұрын
Shaolin Monks is still my favourite Mortal Kombat game because of its Ko-Op. It was such a delight to play with family and friends growing up
@doctorbrown5957
@doctorbrown5957 10 ай бұрын
Crossing my fingers we get a remaster with online co-op so I can finally introduce it to my friends. That game was seriously the shit back in the day, used to play it with my brother back in the day.
@charleschamp9826
@charleschamp9826 Жыл бұрын
The Sub-Zero brothers having a sister that was left in the States in one back story is interesting. I wonder if that was just a random tidbit they through in or if they ever planned to actually develop that into a full character. Granted, assuming it ever was a thing, it probably got scrapped in favor of Frost for one reason or another. Also Be-Han confuses me. Bi-Han dies, gets brought back, now has weird shadow powers, and sometimes a Stand, with all the ice stuff seemingly being gone. Everyone else dies and gets brought back, they keep what they had, don't gain anything new, they're basically the same except with a skin condition and a bad attitude.
@missionofsin3360
@missionofsin3360 Жыл бұрын
Bi-Han is a Wraith not a Revenant. I believe 4thSnake has another Canon Ball episode where he talks about undead.
@charleschamp9826
@charleschamp9826 Жыл бұрын
@@missionofsin3360 Oh I know what Bi-Ham is. What I'm saying is why does he get brought back as a Wraith while everyone else comes back as Revenants, what makes Bi-Han different/special in-universe, etc?
@missionofsin3360
@missionofsin3360 Жыл бұрын
@@charleschamp9826 My assumption is that he became a Wraith when he descended into The Netherrealm after his death, Much like how Scorpion became a Spectre when he died.
@cherry9787
@cherry9787 Жыл бұрын
@@missionofsin3360 I have an idea about how its based due to the emotions they felt when they died. Scorpion gained fire powers because he felt extreme hate and Bi-Han lost ice and gained shadow powers because he felt extreme dread upon death. Not a theory, just a neat idea/half-assed explanation?
@legionbeast
@legionbeast Жыл бұрын
I can swear up and down that the reason Shao Kahn has the dragon aspects to him is due to one of the designers literally mistaking Shao Kahn for Shokan, with the mentioning of being half-dragon. This was in a Tweet that likely was deleted because it would have been -bad- worse PR for a team already under fire for messing up so much in a single game's span.
@nabilahmed579
@nabilahmed579 Жыл бұрын
That was basically the reason lmao. How tf can get that wrong is a bit stupid. And then they had to try and fix it by saying that he has onaga’s power, which explains his appearance. However, mk9, he has no evidence of him having that body at all
@legionbeast
@legionbeast Жыл бұрын
@@nabilahmed579 Not only that, Onaga's power was so great, Shao Kahn couldn't use it because Onaga would literally body snatch him because Onaga was just THAT much more powerful than Shao Kahn.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 11 ай бұрын
@@legionbeasttechnically, this is before Shao devoured god knows how many souls so he’s far weaker
@LordRaptor
@LordRaptor Жыл бұрын
Even the positive changes that were done to the original stories/concepts by the arrival of the reboot/new "timeline" were eventually soured because WB and NRS insist on constantly rebooting the series to milk the popularity of the IP at its most recognizable form, constantly undermining older material, they simply REFUSE to put some effort into world building and coming up with new stories because MK sells and their budget is way too big for any game of its genre to compete with.
@bigmanliam
@bigmanliam 10 ай бұрын
Facts
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
I've never read the old comics so was confused in Shaolin Monks when the island started to collapse, as I don't remember this being a thing in any of the mainline games. Deadly Alliance has Raiden rendezvous with the heroes on "Shang Tsung's old island fortress", which is now an "abandoned reminder of the struggle between Earthrealm and the forces of evil". It's mentioned in the bios for Raiden, Sonya, and Johnny (who parachutes down in style!). Seems to imply the fortress / island still exists in some capacity, and hadn't completely collapsed into the sea. A lot of characters seem to use the portal in the Lost Sea near the island to get to Outworld, since all other means of getting there were destroyed - either by the Outer World Investigation Agency (wanting to have the only means in and out, sorta like the Stargate in SG1), or by the GigaChad Hsu Hao (who destroyed the OWIA underground base).
@KombatGod
@KombatGod Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always assumed the MK2 comic was written as promotion and didn't actually serve as basis for the story, being ignored in each subsequent game unlike the MK1 comic. Another big thing is how Jax doesn't know anything about supernatural stuff, but then beside MK9 showing him on the island, Special Forces was also initially supposed to show the events leading up to MK1, with both him and Sonya ending up on the island to compete in the tournament; the final half-baked version of MKSF we got only showed him travel through a portal to Outworld but still. (although a few elements of the lore like the 10-streak victory rule, were indeed established in said comic)
@TheRabbitPoet
@TheRabbitPoet Жыл бұрын
@@KombatGod Yeah, I don't think the comic is meant to be entirely canon as it has all the heroes meeting in earthrealm and going to outworld together (probably for pacing reasons), while the game bios gives each character a different reasons to go there. Liu Kang and Kung Lao traveled there to avenge the fallen Shaolin, Johnny Cage was with Kang so he followed him there (implying he also left the island with him), Raiden went on his own before any of the other heroes, Sub Zero was looking for Tsung to assassinate him, Jax got there by following a distress call from Sonya, and Scorpion (possibly) arrived last after learning of Sub Zero's apparent resurrection
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 Жыл бұрын
I still think Bi Han was hired to assassinate Shang after he was invited to the tournament since that would mean he’d be close to him. This is assuming Shangs island is hostile to trespassers otherwise.
@mr.awesome6011
@mr.awesome6011 Жыл бұрын
There are more versions of Mortal Kombat 2 made by Netherrealm/Midway than there are Killer Instinct games
@jasperswarp
@jasperswarp Жыл бұрын
I’m glad that Shaolin Monks gave us a pretty good Reptile design, coming after the abomination that was pyramid head lizard man Reptile.
@r.i.p.plegaming2327
@r.i.p.plegaming2327 Жыл бұрын
You know as a kid, I just loved the coolness and air conditioning-quality the MK9 Sub-Zeros had and that might be a subconscious effect of living in the Philippines and kinda helped me love MK9 and the MK franchise better and when I found out about the ice arms *wheeeeeeeeeeekkkkeeeeeeeee*
@XEL777
@XEL777 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the original reason Shao Kahn restored Shang Tsung's youth wasn't to make him stronger, or at least that wasn't the main reason. MK2 comic explained that he made him young because it drastically changed his body, thus allowing him to enter Earthrealm again and issue the challenge.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 11 ай бұрын
Yep, helping to conceal his soul’s taint of Outworld
@Jellyman4
@Jellyman4 Жыл бұрын
39:25 Almost started dishing out the Mortal Kombat equivalent to the Poké Rap.
@The_Rage_Kage
@The_Rage_Kage Жыл бұрын
Man for all it's problems, Shaolin Monks has probably my favorite designs of all the characters.
@lucasdiazjr5679
@lucasdiazjr5679 Жыл бұрын
Midway Era had such a great world feel,I wanted to k ow so much and deception made the love stronger but nothing will ever be the same,we will never explore those realms like deception.
@IanFerguson
@IanFerguson Жыл бұрын
4th Snake did more for MK 30th birthday than Netherrealm did.
@JohnSydney225
@JohnSydney225 Жыл бұрын
I remember back when this subject was going to be a video sometime in the future. Back when it was only MK 2, Shaolin Monks, and 2011. The wait was definitely worth it!
@MegaHeaf
@MegaHeaf Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Raiden was able to intervene against Shao Kahn in Shaolin Monks was because Kahn blasted him earlier and that would count as him challenging Raiden in Kombat.
@Wright805
@Wright805 Жыл бұрын
15:04-15:46 One possible explanation for this seeming contradiction is that in the Prequel comic he is simply putting up a front about being uncaring about his brother's death as Lin Kuei would presumably be taught to show no vulnerabilities to others. Note that he still describes his brother as "among the Lin Kuei's finest"
@Roge9
@Roge9 10 ай бұрын
kung lao went from a cool mysterious guy to a immature jealous teenager lol
@undertaker9991
@undertaker9991 9 ай бұрын
My only defense of the hug part it could've just been a "parting till we meet again" thing. Like good luck or be safe.
@heartlessangel2910
@heartlessangel2910 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out out the young, bald Kano of past MK11, which always bugged me as an egregious example of how bad fighting games can have inconsistent/radically changed character designs. From my point of view, Middway and NRS relied on and favoured too much of Kano's hair and bearded look, which started out in MK vs DC (as part of the Trevor Goddard tribute) and carried over to MK9 and 10. So by the time NRS had to do past and future versions for 11, they were obviously stumped and had to pull Kano's MK3 look to make him most distinguishable,. It's quite a silly retcon, but still, it was worth it in the end. As SonicHaXD points out, Karno and the cooler Karno is the best gay romance that NRS could've written.
@christianrapper
@christianrapper Жыл бұрын
It actually came from the first movie. That’s why he has an Australian accent now
@heartlessangel2910
@heartlessangel2910 Жыл бұрын
@@christianrapper Yes, I know. To clarify, what I meant is that MK vs. DC was the first game to start using Kano's design and Australian accent based on Trevour Goddard from the movie. MK 1, 2, 3, Deadly Alliance and Armageddon kept Kano's look consistent and faithful to the original motion capture actor Richard Divizio, though he did have the Australian in a scene in Armageddon. Then MK vs DC and the NRS started and solely based their continuity of Kano on Goddard, then when past Kano in MK11 comes in, his design is retconed into looking like Divizo, which is a glaring inconsistency.
@christianrapper
@christianrapper Жыл бұрын
@@heartlessangel2910 it’s just a kool easter egg for games 1 -3.
@heartlessangel2910
@heartlessangel2910 Жыл бұрын
@@christianrapper Respectfully, I disagree. The whole point of Easter Eggs is that they are minor and hidden references and or messages. Kano's pas self MK3 look in 11 is just inconsistent character design for the reasons and explanations I've already made. It's not like he's the only one, but it does stand out.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 Жыл бұрын
Talk about self love to an nth degree.
@Pinkanator
@Pinkanator Жыл бұрын
Thanks for always covering interesting topics through all these years, sticking with it through all the nonsense these franchises keep throwing at you. Looking forward to many more years of your discussions and analysisises and such! Happy late birthday and hope the influx of comments asking about the new MK Animated Movie die down quick lol.
@GodzillaMendoza
@GodzillaMendoza Жыл бұрын
I guess if we can give MK11 any credit at all (which is hard), it's that introducing the concept of Kronika rebooting the timeline a bajillion times can cover for all the inconsistency and fudged details by just saying these events have happened several times with slight variations to the people involved. It's no excuse for sloppy storytelling on this scale, but at the very least I can just go "well that game was probably one of the other timelines" if something is particularly disconnected across depictions.
@nabilahmed579
@nabilahmed579 Жыл бұрын
Story wise, few characters got done justice Ones I can think of: liu (before aftermath), fujin, shang, Johnny Cage. Honourable mentions: nightwolf, baraka Rain would have been up there if they acc utilised his story of why he turned evil (which mk11 did a good job with his backstory). The rest of the characters suffer from issues that are basically disguised through mostly spectacle and the fact that some characters could be fan faves in which they might not want to or acc see the issues.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
@@nabilahmed579 LIU was done justice only in mk 11 imo. The young liu. Nightwolf too. Baraka was done justice only in mk11 as well. so ye i agree. kitana as well
@nabilahmed579
@nabilahmed579 11 ай бұрын
@@sonic-bb can’t really say kitana when her ruler ship got shat on in 1 day lmao
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
@@nabilahmed579 lol i mean true. but at least her personality was stronger than her representation in mk9. She was way too like, timid or whatever in mk9
@Neronova888
@Neronova888 Жыл бұрын
gonna say, the transitions between characters is flawless
@21eienni
@21eienni Жыл бұрын
29:50 Two out of three clips show Johnny fighting Reptile and after that it transitions to Johnny Cage. Very nice.
@KombatGod
@KombatGod Жыл бұрын
I can think of 2 reasons for the retcon of Mileena being born around the times of MK2: One is that they designed the background with her failed clones first and then wanted to find a way to use it in the story; The other is that they retconned most characters as taking part in the MK1 tournament so they needed a reason to exclude her so she could have a more effective entrance in the MK2 portion. Neither sounds like a good reason.
@KombatGod
@KombatGod Жыл бұрын
14:03 speaking of Bo' Rai Cho being unable to compete, here's a blatant plothole I've never heard anybody discuss before: SHANG TSUNG IS FROM EARTHREALM! Think about it for a second.
@zakeermcconnell388
@zakeermcconnell388 Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing that since he was the first one to do this, he, for some dumb reason, can get a pass.
@schemar17
@schemar17 11 ай бұрын
It's cause shang is owned by shao
@om3g4z3r0
@om3g4z3r0 8 ай бұрын
I feel like i deserve a diploma for watching this. Shaolin monks was pretty good coop, i wish they made another one.
@02DooD
@02DooD Жыл бұрын
Mileena being childish was pretty fitting for me personally since I always saw her as the silliest fighter in 2 and 3. In 2 everyone has weapons and moves that feel like they're using their abilities and show their strength, but then you got Mileena rolling around, falling of the screen to teleport, and having the nail spitting fatality in 3, the bones fatality in 2 and even her fighting stance looks goofy in 3.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I never understood why people found MK2 setting so interesting that it has to be revisited again and again and again. It was the exact same thing as MK1 story, just in different realm. I wish we actually got some expansion on Outworld invasion, Shinnok's invasion of Edenia (sounds way more interesting than just Earthrealm being invaded again) and post Shinnok stuff. It's almost like it's some sort of safespace for NRS. And before anyone says - yes, MK2 was a good game, no doubt, but it was far from the most interesting one).
@sorakazama7031
@sorakazama7031 Жыл бұрын
Umk3 and deception were peak. Mk2 just had cool events during the ladder
@fireinthenight9028
@fireinthenight9028 Жыл бұрын
For me mk2 and deadly alliance. I wish they expand more on the adventure some of the characters. The idea with story of other invasions are very cool. In mo the game been dying in the past for lack of creativity, I think it's start catching up to the same cycle again.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
i think you just had to be there. Idk, as a kid, i found mk 2 so aesthetically pleasing and the atmosphere and vibe it gave off was fantastic. I remember just lonely dark nights playing mk2. It was such a vibe. MK9 gave off a similar vibe to me. idk, personally for me, the aesthetic was everything. If you were too old, or werent born yet, i could see why mk2 isnt special to you. But back in the 90s, at the right age, that vibe hit
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
also, in mk2, it really seemed like a bunch of random competitors joined the tournament. Not just the main characters we see. And the fight is in outworld. Not earthrealm. It just felt like it added a lot of adventure. All the character bios seemed competent as well. Like all the main characters were there looking for something of their own. Ninjas battleing ninjas. Military men finding disgusting creatures for the first time. The monks putting their life's work of training to the test. It all just hit
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
The White Lotus Society has always confused me. I've always though it was a secret society set up by Raiden to help train fighters for Mortal Kombat. But it's said that Liu Kang leaves the White Lotus Society so that he can enter the tournament as a representative of the Shaolin / Order of Light. But the Order of Light is a sect of the White Lotus.... I think!? It's confusing. Sometimes it seems like the White Lotus, Order of Light, and the Shaolin are all just interchangeable names for the same thing. But other times they are all seperate entities. In my head-canon I've always thought Raiden (at some point) trained Liu Kang, before he was chosen to represent in the tournament and went on to train with Bo'Rai Cho. Where-as Kung Lao could've received training from Fujin, thus why he has a whirlwind attack, and can change direction of his hat throw mid-air (altering air currents?).
@Klausinator451
@Klausinator451 Жыл бұрын
That's some good theorizing. PRIMO stuff. Never thought about that with Kung Lao. He spun in the original game didn't he? That might've just been a fun ability without any thought put into it... like the KANOBALL hahaha. He's evil and he looks like a pirate so.....he can turn into a launched cannonball.
@darkservantofheaven
@darkservantofheaven Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept Kang-Raiden Lao-Fujin Both trained by Bo'Rai Cho I like it
@the-point-bearer6689
@the-point-bearer6689 Жыл бұрын
That would be a interesting contrast between these two deities that may as well be brothers in arms, but in a different manner.
@Klausinator451
@Klausinator451 Жыл бұрын
@@the-point-bearer6689 I'd say CANONIZE DAT SHIT! I mean, they already retconned Kano to be Australian, them saying that Raiden helped Liu Kang, Fujin helped Kung Lao wouldn't just be a good way to bring those characters into the story, it'd provide a lot of interesting concepts (Kung Lao siding with Fujin against Raiden and Liu Kang for example) Plus, Fujin plays second fiddle to Raiden, like KL with LK. Hey, their initials are eachothers reversed....huh.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
i always saw the white lotus society as just a sect in the monks. I always assumed that there were other groups amongst the monks with their own names. Never really thought of them as the group that trains for the tournament. But i can see where the idea comes from. In shoalin monks, they make it appear that both lui kang and kung lao trained under them. And obviously they are the ones that are going to go fight in the tournament.
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 Жыл бұрын
I actually met the MK2 actor for Kung lao and he wasnt the biggest fan of asshole kung lao but he did like MK11 lao
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
which one is asshole kung lao to him? for me it was shaolin monks kung lao and mk9 kung lao.
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 8 ай бұрын
​@@sonic-bb😂 didn't get to ask him that question but it's most likely those two game
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 8 ай бұрын
@@darthmisogyny3828 lolol yeah
@xaviergonzalez44
@xaviergonzalez44 7 ай бұрын
After this video, I’ve gained a lot of appreciation for Mortal 1 Kombat’s Baraka and Reptile. They’ve transcended their jobber role to more important and fleshed out characters
@JahlisMan
@JahlisMan Жыл бұрын
the level of "respect" people at NRS/WB have for MK was perfectly shown in that 1 and a half minute "celebration" video that essentially amounted to "buy our stuff". I said this under the recent Kombat Kings podcast, I feel like NRS are tired of making MK, and I don't want *this* team to make another one, at least for a while. the fact that they said "we'll announce our studio's next game after we've done celebrating MK's 30 years" fills me with hope that they're doing something else. this franchise has been with me for 23 years, since I was 6. thank you, Snake, for releasing this video today so I could be reminded of some of the cool MK stuff. god, even MK9 looks competently written now, compared to 11.
@Guadalajara1937
@Guadalajara1937 Жыл бұрын
Notice how that video didn't even once show a 3d era game (shaolin monks doesn't count)
@JahlisMan
@JahlisMan Жыл бұрын
@@Guadalajara1937 yes, because you can't buy them right now. and that was a "product" trailer. they even had the gall to take most of the movie stuff from the 2021 one, not the classic 95 one.
@Monkforilla
@Monkforilla Жыл бұрын
It sounds like your stuck in the 90’s . I for one. Welcome more Mortal kombat
@JahlisMan
@JahlisMan Жыл бұрын
@@Monkforilla I liked MKX a lot, to me it was the overall best one out of the new trilogy. but I hate MK11 with a passion, from the story to the gameplay and design. I'm just not the "give me something MK" type. Do it well or don't do it at all.
@Monkforilla
@Monkforilla Жыл бұрын
@@JahlisMan I loved mk 11 and I played it more than x
@ThunderJuice
@ThunderJuice Жыл бұрын
Pre-SM Kung Lao was the best. He was the Shaolin's original choice for the first MK, making him canonically stronger than Liu Kang. Narratively it made them equals, the protagonist and his superior.
@twinzzlers
@twinzzlers 21 күн бұрын
Wouldn't that make him weaker since they ended up choosing Liu Kang?
@ThunderJuice
@ThunderJuice 21 күн бұрын
@@twinzzlers No, he was their first choice since he was the superior fighter but he declined.
@matthewnuss3053
@matthewnuss3053 Жыл бұрын
Snake I’ve started writing my own fiction of MK thanks to your inspiration but I want to point out that your ideas are my favorite. I think my head canon is most of your writing. Keep up the awesome work!
@kamenrangerzeo8251
@kamenrangerzeo8251 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching some of your work and I got saying it is impressive of your knowledge and detail that you break down during your segments. There are some things I do agree with you and others not so much but overall you definitely deliver on some of your own ideas to help improve on the story whether it's from the Mortal Kombat or other fighting games from different series. Best moment 2:50
@jhomariemanzano2258
@jhomariemanzano2258 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video been watching your videos since your mk x retrospective 👍😁👍
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple Жыл бұрын
Still find it strange how in MK11 not every major character was present when they were supposed nabbed by Kronika just before Shao Kahn killed Kung Lao, no Goro, no Kintaro, no Qaun Chi. But hey it’s Netherrealm what’s you expect!
@vault1021
@vault1021 10 ай бұрын
1:13 I can’t help but think of the song “Let’s fighting love” from the anime episode of South Park when watching that scene of everyone fighting in Shaolin Monks 😂😂😂
@comicbookking3446
@comicbookking3446 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Mortal Kombat video you’ve ever made.
@EarthrealmerMK
@EarthrealmerMK Жыл бұрын
I'm so sick of mk2 nostalgia pandering. NRS needs to stop alienating fans.
@Gzero-ph8eg
@Gzero-ph8eg Жыл бұрын
This video has been anticipated for awhile now, snake first mentioned making this video I believe in his 2nd MK9 kritique or his Kung Lao wasted Plotential video. A great video man if you are seeing this and happy belated
@KellyCalKelsey
@KellyCalKelsey Жыл бұрын
Can’t say who did it best but I can say who did it worst, which is MK9, they butchered Liu’s character by making him overly paranoid and untrusting, Raiden was also butchered, “wise beyond compare” my ass, he made a mistake every 2 steps costing them SuB-Zero, the Sindel elimination squad, and Liu.
@Doomness87
@Doomness87 Жыл бұрын
wow this video was so fucking good I didn't even realize how long it was till i was half an hour in keep up the good work snake
@VigilantKnight005
@VigilantKnight005 Жыл бұрын
You're not the only one with a knack for insight on a video game series.
@BetterCallShura
@BetterCallShura Жыл бұрын
Just watched it, well... great video and happy birthday!
@ryanfolsom8851
@ryanfolsom8851 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these videos. I'm the MK encyclopedia to my friends, but I've never been able to read the Malibu comics so I never really know where to connect certain dots, like Sonya and Kano's capture.
@yyeezyy630
@yyeezyy630 8 ай бұрын
They aren’t cannon it doesn’t matter
@ryanfolsom8851
@ryanfolsom8851 8 ай бұрын
@@yyeezyy630 Yeah, I got them mixed up. The one shot Midway comics for MK1, MK2 & MK4 are the canon ones.
@Sniper_Jacob06
@Sniper_Jacob06 Жыл бұрын
4thsnake:And now for our main character *Sees Cole Young* oh fuck you that's not funny. Me: *Laughs joyfully*
@keernalc5423
@keernalc5423 Жыл бұрын
Your Segways into new characters is amazing
@StudentOfKasumi
@StudentOfKasumi Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday love your videos as always ❤🎉
@GhostFan-ev4di
@GhostFan-ev4di Жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion Even though shaolin monks wasn't canon,I still consider to be the best retelling of mortal kombat 2 events
@HRSGAMING677
@HRSGAMING677 Жыл бұрын
Aye Shaolin monks was the best Mortal Kombat Game I Could careless anyone Believe That Game Hands Down amazing
@shawnsouth327
@shawnsouth327 Жыл бұрын
@ProGrammEGR all valid points but there’s been way worse mk games story wise, the gameplay is Awesome and the atmosphere is extremely immersive that’s the only mk game I can say that about the story is off but it’s literally a non canon spin-off so if you’re looking for story/character consistency you’re playing the wrong game
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how that game is held to the highest regard by MK fans yet that story sucks. No it does not diminish the greatness of Shaolin Monks but still
@saloz9483
@saloz9483 Жыл бұрын
@@MazeDaGr8 The same can be said about the NRS games. Look at MK9 a lot of people love it but most of the story is fucking awful.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
@@shawnsouth327 gameplay and atmosphere were it's high points. story couldve been more accurate. And character interpretations couldve been more accurate. playing with a friend was fun too.
@wallcity318
@wallcity318 Жыл бұрын
NRS really used to love tiddays, they should bring that back
@bigmanliam
@bigmanliam 10 ай бұрын
Damn we need new writers fr
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Жыл бұрын
I personally liked Shaolin monks it was really awesome and tons of fun.
@kokutensai
@kokutensai 3 ай бұрын
It's seems no matter how hard they try, Mortal Kombat properties never seem to get past the MK2 segment of the franchise.
@luxo2309
@luxo2309 Жыл бұрын
You're hilarious dude. Great outro. Subscribed.
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this.
@GoliathSmoke
@GoliathSmoke Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy the passion and love you clearly show for the series. It sucks knowing the current team doesnt give a shred of a shit and we may never get such interesting and complex stories again. Im glad we atleast have you to make those ignorant to mk’s past glory aware and to show what could be with some effort.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
well luckily, in mk1, they are supposedly starting over from scratch. So we wont have to compare them to the originals anymore. They better not ruin kung lao's personality again tho... and judging by him and raidens bio's... my boy Lao gonna be ruined and petty and jealous again....
@theshogunblaze3656
@theshogunblaze3656 Жыл бұрын
26:37 I’ve been saying this for YEARS since MK9 and a few times under YOUR videos Snake. Thanks to MK2021 for getting u to acknowledging it. Never thought i’d say that 😵‍💫
@MaskedPlayer514
@MaskedPlayer514 Жыл бұрын
Edenia being an old name for outworld is also something that was used in the MK4 prequel comic as the scenes in Edenia had Kitana mediating with the shokans and centaurs, did it change by DA? she did still negotiate peace between the shokan and the centaurs but since the sorcerers were working in outworld, and shao kahn coming back prior to that maybe edenia being outworld was already changed at that point? Interesting stuff keep up the good work.
@dariusdafigga
@dariusdafigga Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or are those MK9 costumes just FIRE
@alrightagain4605
@alrightagain4605 Жыл бұрын
Nice video!! Happy Late Birthday 🎂
@Noahs_Chair
@Noahs_Chair Жыл бұрын
39:52 Something I want to mention is that the Red Ninja might be Sektor since the Cyber-iniciative wouldn't finish until MK 3 and he is the only red Lin Quei that we know.
@metallicaspiker16
@metallicaspiker16 11 ай бұрын
The original Lin Kuei Grandmaster around Bi-Han’s time in Mythologies wore red as well. If that were Sektor, I imagine he probably would’ve been important enough to mention by name, but then again, who knows when the idea for Sektor ran through EB and Tobias’ heads?
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
@@metallicaspiker16 thats probably why they made sektor the son of the grandmaster in mk9
@realfromtherealreality4148
@realfromtherealreality4148 Жыл бұрын
Overall, I think MK9 had the best ideas but botched a lot of them either in-game or with the sequels. Minus: Mileena's infantilization and Quan Chi becoming God.
@opvigilantes
@opvigilantes Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely all neatherrealm studios fault and not WB not wanting spend the money on the 30th anniversary
@LateNightAshes
@LateNightAshes Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, I'd also like to credit you thumbnail for this one✊
@Nsinger998
@Nsinger998 Жыл бұрын
17:11 - This ending becomes a Mind-Screw if the player fought sub-zero beforehand and finished him with a fatality.
@drakevdk
@drakevdk Жыл бұрын
still love shaolin monks and would still love to see more mk games like it
@guilhermefranco2930
@guilhermefranco2930 Жыл бұрын
I have waited for so looooong
@MattSayYay
@MattSayYay Жыл бұрын
Ever notice that Mortal Kombat seems to like the whole "II" symbol nowadays? Think about it, "Mortal Kombat II", Mortal Kombat 20*11*, Mortal Kombat *11*.
@Klausinator451
@Klausinator451 Жыл бұрын
Whoa. Yeah, that's weird. Shaolin Monks was a remake of 2 too. They're just obsessed with two. Sub zero and Scorpion, Kung Lao and Liu kang Kotal and Shao Kitana and mileena Kano and Kabal Raiden and Fujin Shang Tsung and Quan Chi Cassie and Johnny Goro and Kintaro Then mk11 has two versions of most characters.
@MattSayYay
@MattSayYay Жыл бұрын
@@Klausinator451 I guess the video game industry is obsessed with the number 2
@Hillthugsta
@Hillthugsta Жыл бұрын
I blame Harvey Dent.
@desrochessimon3044
@desrochessimon3044 Жыл бұрын
You know, those informations might be useful for my idea for a Mortal Kombat tv show.
@Sizifus
@Sizifus Жыл бұрын
13:54 Bro that's fucking meme worthy, lmao
@keeperofm5090
@keeperofm5090 Жыл бұрын
21:56 That shit was hilarious, HAHAHA
@aname8832
@aname8832 Жыл бұрын
You are incredibly good at this if you haven’t been reminded
@bigvador
@bigvador Жыл бұрын
That ending was dope
@Kameron87
@Kameron87 4 ай бұрын
"Can't take Kahn in a fight by herself..." Kitana beating Shao Kahn in MK11 was NRS bullshit.
@blakecraft8750
@blakecraft8750 Жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video, liked the format and the delivery of the content as an MK fan it's dope looking through the differences between the generations of MK, I know it can't be fixed now but wish you didn't bash on the creators as hard at the end, it's your video you can do what you want but as a viewer and MK fan enjoying the content it kinda left a bad taste after what was a great video, you disliking the devs and their choices etc could be for another video or something, it just didn't fit or really serve this video at the end to kinda dump on the dev team. I would easily recommend/share this kind of content to friends but I again think the end commentary about the devs being so incompetent wasn't needed in this kind of video where we are actually celebrating different generations of MK.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Жыл бұрын
Belated happy birthday. Also, gods, the continuity of these things is almost as awful as Raiden's face in _Shaolin Monks_ looks--brrr. Jade, Kintaro, Reptile, and Smoke getting constantly screwed over is one of the most wasteful things about the series, honestly. As disappointing as them making Goro a dumb brute is, he still generally has been an actual "Big Deal" threat when he shows up, which is more than you can say for even Shao Khan at this point. Also, yeah, given what a screw-up he was/is, Quan Chi being depicted as any kind of mastermind by NRS is definitely one of their weirder choices.
@vibezonegaming
@vibezonegaming Жыл бұрын
So if Smoke was a quest giver in Shaolin Monks, how does him giving them Mortal Kombat 2 fit into the story?
@necroleis
@necroleis Жыл бұрын
I think what they mean by scorpion not knowing his family again in mk 1's ending was that he will never see them again. Idk which this was but I once read an older story and it used the phrase I will never know them again like a person now would use I will never see them again.
@AHPcameron
@AHPcameron Жыл бұрын
@The4thSnake, Hey if you don’t mind me asking that Shaolin Monk gameplay is that from the PS2 version of the game? Played via emulator? As it looks super clean as not even my original Xbox version looks that clean
@AzrielArcade
@AzrielArcade Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, I don’t think any adaptation of MKII is excellent. Some adapted parts are worse than others though. Completely agree on how other villains are pushed aside for Quan Chi is not great, yet I think that character does have potential. Except, maybe make him more distinct than a Pinhead version of Shang Tsung. For that matter, why not make Kintaro a separate Tiger Race and remove his extra arms? I know that’s a wild take, but it’s not like we ever see another Tiger Shokan so why not? Be more interesting in the Trilogy to fall back on other powerful races after Goro’s suppose death. On that note, they should write Goro similar to how Sagat is in the Street Fighter games. It’d certainly be an improvement, even if it’s a bit obvious. XP Fingers crossed that the next game, be it a sequel or reboot ends up better written.
@lunakingsley.7247
@lunakingsley.7247 Жыл бұрын
We see a shit tone of tiger shokan in the conquest mode of Armageddon.
@thecriticalghost4626
@thecriticalghost4626 Жыл бұрын
We do see more tiger shokan
@KwokeKnightK
@KwokeKnightK Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best gifts for the 30th
@gjtrue
@gjtrue Жыл бұрын
I personally like how MK11 did Liu Kang for the most part. I never liked how quick-to-anger and antagonistic the character was in MK9 and MKX, as well the non-canon web series. As for Kung Lao, I always detested that petty rivalry they started with him and Liu Kang. Sure it gives him more personality but it also makes him an egotistical, proud, obnoxious, overconfident ass-hat which he is at his worst in MK11. I still prefer the more noble and humble Kung Lao from the original timeline. Very much like his younger cousin Kung Jin lol. Though on a side note, I wonder how they'd do the long-missing fellow shaolin monk *Kai* if he ever came back? He'd be a blank slate I hope they'd do justice and have fun with. He was planned to appear in Deadly Alliance judging by concept art of that game and I wonder if the story would have had Kai traveling alongside Kung Lao to avenge Liu Kang's death at the hands of Shang Tsung and Quan Chi. Kai was also planned for Mortal Kombat X to make a cameo or so but was replaced with Bo' Rai Cho instead. Seems like the creators often wanna do something with Kai but never work anything out. Hopefully MK12 or whatever the next mainline game will be does something with all four of the shaolin monks.
@sonic-bb
@sonic-bb 11 ай бұрын
absolutely agree with this whole comment. im glad someone else had these same thoughts
@HedonisticPickle
@HedonisticPickle 10 ай бұрын
I always thought the idea with the clapper board saying Take 5 and the Director saying it’s the first take was to showacase Cages ego and how he was treated by his colleagues and film crew, almost like theyre pandering to his ego and walking on egg shells to keep the arrogant talent on board? So it’s ALWAYS going to be the first take no matter what. I thought it was pretty clever way to show off his arrogance/deception. (30:14)
@GMKGoji01
@GMKGoji01 Жыл бұрын
This is just Wasted Plotential…but in Canon Ball. Not for Quan Chi though. No reason for him to be a character.
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin Жыл бұрын
Points of notice: Sub-Zero I could've defected to keep his son out of the Clan, like a depiction of Hanzo Hasashi tried to do before they were murdered. The grandfather was probably mentioned to explain who taught Shujinko, despite him being older than the brothers. 14:07 - If they drop out after defeating the other Earth realm fighters, Goro & Outworld wins by forfeit. 19:15 - We know that Quan-Chi can mind control people, so Scorpion mightn't've chosen to continue to serve him. 38:18 - If you pay close attention, it was never stated when he found the tomb. Also, Shang Tsung can only reanimate corpses with his necromancy, the only type of Necromancy *Quan-chi has never been shown doing.* 38:40 - False! He was only following Shinnok's orders. Shinnok was the puppet master manipulator, while Quan was the tool for said manipulation. 39:00 - Of course he was a colossal F up! Shinnok wasn't there telling him what to do in X!
@missionofsin3360
@missionofsin3360 Жыл бұрын
Quan Chi discovers the Tomb after escaping the Netherrealm in MK:DA's intro(it's stated right in the intro), and I always inferred that both Quan Chi and Shang Tsung were able to use Necromancy however they differ in that Shang's is exclusively soul based(hence him being needed to revive Onaga's Army) and Quan Chi's was body based as shown in Armageddon intros which is where I believe his first act of Necromancy occurs and only on a skeletal level, Although this doesn't entirely explain how Sindel's body was restored although perhaps her body was created in The Flesh Pits and then her soul transplanted into later.
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin Жыл бұрын
@@missionofsin3360 Quan-Chi can manipulate souls, but cannot put souls into other people’s corpses.
@ryanjdc9985
@ryanjdc9985 Жыл бұрын
This video is fantastic
@user-hg5wd9zj6w
@user-hg5wd9zj6w Жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Wery sad Nr not create interesting content for 30th Anniversary.
@spiritofarkham1235
@spiritofarkham1235 Жыл бұрын
I have a theory about MK11 Shao Khan's dragon astetic. He served Onaga at on point and maybe he wore that armor while doing so. Given how Shao Khan is ruined there maybe he just never bothered tp change it.
@KarmasAB123
@KarmasAB123 Жыл бұрын
Man, this shit is more complicated than Tekken XD
@kzakulenga5138
@kzakulenga5138 Жыл бұрын
I loved the part where you ripped on Poor Quan Chi Do you have a video planned for MK Snowblind The movie is awesome Has some plot holes but is awesome start to finish
@MegaHeaf
@MegaHeaf Жыл бұрын
The4thSnake, I wanted to thank you so much. You are what got me into MK. I love MK, I watch all of your videos many times. I love your ideas for the franchise. I agree that NetherRealm's stories are terrible. I wish you would be the writer of NetherRealm Studios. And just thank you, thank you so very much for the entertainment I get from your videos everyday.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for watching them.
@TheDeviantDon
@TheDeviantDon Жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna say it, I don't blame you for not reviewing Snow Blind, unless you have.....? I'm an idiot lmao
@tylerleach8796
@tylerleach8796 Жыл бұрын
He hasn’t yet. Though I don’t blame him. The film is essentially a microcosm of almost everything wrong with NRS era Mortal Kombat.
@TheDeviantDon
@TheDeviantDon Жыл бұрын
@@tylerleach8796 True, can’t disagree there, I thought the movie’s concept was pretty cool though.
@tylerleach8796
@tylerleach8796 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDeviantDon I guess. Even if personally it reminded me a bit too much of Zack Snyder's Knightmare, and I don't ever want to be reminded of Knightmare.
@TheDeviantDon
@TheDeviantDon Жыл бұрын
@@tylerleach8796 Oh damn dude, I’m sorry to hear that
@tylerleach8796
@tylerleach8796 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDeviantDon still...I liked Scorpion's design. Thought he was unnecessary in the movie but I liked the outfit they gave him. And yeah, I'm no afraid of "spoiling" Scorpion being in the movie cause it's a post-NRS MK product, there was no way they wouldn't find a way to shoehorn in Ed Boon's favorite.
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