Mosin 91/30 PU: Soviet Standard WW2 Sniper's Rifle

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The Mosin M91/30 PU is the most recognized Soviet sniper rifle of World War Two, but it was not their first. It was preceded by the Model 1931 PE, the Model 1936 PEM, and also the scoped version of the SVT-40 semiautomatic rifle. The SVT was intended to become a universal infantry rifle as well as a sniper's rifle, and the short 3.5x PU scope was designed specifically for it (earlier PE and PEM scopes we long, and interfered with the ejection port of the SVT). Mosin sniper production was shut down in the summer of 1940 as the SVT started to be manufactured.
However, field use showed that the SVT was inadequate as a sniper rifle. It had problems with first shots going to a different point of aim than subsequent ones, a barrel that heated rapidly and would string out shots, and generally insufficient accuracy overall. In August 1942 it was declared ineffective - something new was needed to replace it. The solution was to design a mount to fit that new short PU scope (which was fast and cheap to make) to the standby M91/30 Mosin Nagant, and put that into production as quickly as possible. An Izhevsk engineer named Kochetov designed a good mounting system, which was adopted in August 1942 just as the SVT was being retired. Both Tula and Izhevsk began new production of M91/30 PU snipers, with the first rifles ready in October and December of 1942 respectively.
By the end of 1944 close to 400,000 of the Mosin PU snipers had been built, enough to fully equip the Red Army. Production was shut down, but the rifle remained the Soviet standard sniper rifle until replaced by the SVD Dragunov in the 1960s. The example we are looking at today was made at Ishevsk in 1943 and given to Poland as military assistance after the war, where it was refurbished and put into storage.
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@SamuraiAkechi
@SamuraiAkechi 4 ай бұрын
6:38 Dmitri Kochetov is actually quite a notable man. Coming from the line of Tula gunsmiths, a brilliant student, he was employed as an army gunsmith during WWI, where he used not just to service guns, but to invent some new devices such as flare launchers. In 1920 he was employed as the head of hunting arms department of Tula Arms Factory, and worked on the design of a shotgun that was later given as a gift to Lenin. He was involved in designing civilian firearms, and his most brilliant child would be a TOZ-8 rimfire rifle, designed in order to compete with german sports rifle designs and a new rifle designed by Alexey Smirnsky (another soviet designer and participant of Stockholm Olympics in 1912, he also designed a PE top mount for Mosin). Also he designed a first soviet civilian hunting rifle, NK-8,2
@sboat7264
@sboat7264 4 ай бұрын
I believe you meant to say the KO-8,2. the NK-8,2 is a turbo fan engine.
@SamuraiAkechi
@SamuraiAkechi 4 ай бұрын
@@sboat7264 the first designition was NK. The name KO-8,2 was adopted after WWII
@sboat7264
@sboat7264 4 ай бұрын
@@SamuraiAkechiAh ok. Thanks for the lesson!
@lobtop1
@lobtop1 4 ай бұрын
very cool.
@7thboss931
@7thboss931 4 ай бұрын
I took “civilian hunting rifle” the wrong way. I apologize to Mr. Kochetov
@mattorama
@mattorama 4 ай бұрын
15:45 "Infantry rifles were in fact zeroed with bayonets mounted." Had a friend who would always whip on his bayonet at the range, and always said the exact same thing. I thought he was just being weird all these years.
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 2 ай бұрын
Not in Canada they aren't.
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 4 ай бұрын
A "sniper" in WW2 didn't have exactly the same role as a sniper today. He was more like a designated marksman, and the Soviets sprinkled them liberally among their front-line units. However, they did shoot more carefully and deliberately at selected targets than the average rifleman, so not being able to reload as quickly wasn't a significant consideration.
@aminmian7291
@aminmian7291 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure a lot of people would heavily disagree since snipers throughout history did the same thing modern snipers do. Mainly, to hit targets in either concealed or long-range or just gather Intel (as scouts). Snipers have a multi-use, such as overwatch, assassination, mentioned before Intel gathering. Only difference snipers in the past and modern is pretty much technology, give a ww2 or ww1 a modern sniper rifle and pretty sure he/she would be fine once they stop freaking about the tech they have on it One example to drive my point is the White Death, Simo Hayha, who is a decorated sniper even though he never used a scope. He employed every tactic sniper should do, but iron sight. He was not a designated marksman rifleman. He was a pure sniper.
@Chaosrain112
@Chaosrain112 4 ай бұрын
Simo does not give targets the video game courtesy of "free scope glint"
@OddBallPerformance
@OddBallPerformance 4 ай бұрын
If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense for the Soviets to heavily favor snipers in their war with the Germans. They were fighting a lot of siege warfare in their cities for years and had supply shortages for the first few years. More kills with less ammo with a cheap to produce rifle that every soldier is familiar with. The U.S. was almost fighting a completely opposite war with the Army and Marines. Semi-Auto rifles and machine guns suit aggressive offensive invasions and was having way less issues in production and supply. Snipers are relegated to the role we still consider to this day, strategic missions, scouting, and/or assassinations.
@Duncomrade
@Duncomrade 4 ай бұрын
It wasn't just because they were fighting the Germans. Even before the war they wanted every infantry section to have a marksman.
@OddBallPerformance
@OddBallPerformance 4 ай бұрын
@@Duncomrade that was close to the same as the U.S. military, but we didn't do it to the level of the Soviets.
@johnmc8785
@johnmc8785 4 ай бұрын
I had an ex-sniper 1944 Tula MN 91/30 (filled-in mounting holes & spliced stock) that I got for @ $40, with my C&R, back in the 90's. It was BEAT. All parts were forced-match (renumbered) to the receiver. The bore looked like a Calcutta sewer, so I used electrolysis to clean the bore. Afterward, the clean barrel showed quite a bit of pitting, particularly just forward of the chamber. HOWEVER, using the Czech silver-tip ammo, and the iron sights, it produced 3" groups at 100 yards. Secret was to shoot 3-4 shots without cleaning, before shooting for record.
@nutbastard
@nutbastard 4 ай бұрын
Sounds similar to why it's a bad idea to Sea Foam an engine with significant piston ring wear - the carbon fouling is providing the seal. Conventional wisdom is that cleaner is better, but it's not always the case in practice.
@giec3484
@giec3484 4 ай бұрын
Isn't that "common" procedure for shooting milsurps with abused barrels? Due to the copper deposits basically filling the rifling "imperfections" thus improving overall accuracy? At least that's how it was always told to me
@johnsheppard1476
@johnsheppard1476 4 ай бұрын
This is sad accuracy for a sniper Mosin rifle to say the least..I used to get the same size of groupings with my matching factory PU-sniper from 600 meters using 7N14 ammo!
@tiortedrootsky
@tiortedrootsky 4 ай бұрын
@@johnsheppard1476 0.5 MOA??? Is it selected 5-shot groups but really its often larger?
@adamcichon6957
@adamcichon6957 4 ай бұрын
Retired lieutenant colonel of Polish Army, Marek Czerwiński in his books and articles states, that soldiers actually did field DIY, reversible modifications to their issued sniper rifles. Felt filled buttstock boots, rised cheek rests out of stacked leather, short pieces of tube mouned to the front of optic sights as a reflection killer... He also states that those DIY accessories ware not present on the official photos, because they ware looking bad from propagandists point of view, also these practices waren't regulated, just barely tolerated as long as the shooter was succesful. And the army regulations stated that rifle had to be returned to the storage the way, as it came from the factory. I assume, that like in every other military, soldiers would be punished for defacing or destruction of government properity.
@lettuceman306
@lettuceman306 4 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a 22-minute Forgotten Weapons video, I drop everything.
@SuperBeepYou
@SuperBeepYou 4 ай бұрын
@7:43 Ian’s impression of a Russian is hilarious 😂😂
@Herskaa
@Herskaa 4 ай бұрын
Rifle is fine
@digitaal_boog
@digitaal_boog 4 ай бұрын
Nyet, accent is fine
@Tu11iy
@Tu11iy 4 ай бұрын
The stereotypical Russian accent is, funnily enough, pleasant to my perhaps perverted Russian ear. Played Metro Exodus in English just for Melnik's accent.
@SabreWolferos
@SabreWolferos 4 ай бұрын
Probably imitating his friend Max Popenker😂
@tuomoheinavaara4870
@tuomoheinavaara4870 4 ай бұрын
Peter Stormare has a competitor it seems
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 4 ай бұрын
Bit of movie trivia that involves that model of rifle. In the movie Kelly’s Heroes the sniper Gutowski uses one of those in the movie despite the US Army never using them and in the movie him never being near Soviet lines to pick one up. The movie was filmed in Yugoslavia and used a lot of gear from its military, most famously the M4 Sherman tanks but also a bunch of the small arms as well. Since the character needed a “sniper rifle” they just gave him what the Yugoslavian army was using.
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 4 ай бұрын
Always with the Negative Waves, PitFriend1!
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 4 ай бұрын
It's not impossible that a US soldier could have had a Soviet sniper rifle in 1944 France. The Wehrmacht included Ostlegionen, (recruited from Soviet ethnic minorities) often equipped with Soviet weapons. There are photos of Commandos examining M1891/30 rifles captured in Normandy.
@andrewhaddock7996
@andrewhaddock7996 4 ай бұрын
The us army never used leather Thompson mag pouches either,still , doesn't detract from a good film.
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 4 ай бұрын
@@kevinoliver3083No, what most people overlook about _Kelly's Heroes_ is that Kelly's outfit, the 35th Infantry Division stepped ashore at Omaha Beach 5-7 July 1944 and entered combat on the 11th of that month. Because they're getting ready to attack Nancy at the beginning of the film that places events at 15 September 1944. It may not be impossible but highly improbably that during two months of hard fighting out of the hedgerows and into St. Lo that Gutowski would find a Soviet sniper rifle AND a supply of ammo as well as the time to become proficient on it. Highly improbable.
@tiortedrootsky
@tiortedrootsky 4 ай бұрын
11:59 important to note that the accuracy standard (4 shots, 8cm diameter from 100m = 2,76 MOA) is the minimal acceptable accuracy, beyond which the rifle is not fit for survice and is sent to repar shop. Its not what you can expect from new rifle.
@Grinch556
@Grinch556 4 ай бұрын
I was able to pick up an authentic one not too long ago. It’s pretty awesome holding the style of rifle my girlfriend’s great grandmother used as a Soviet marksman during the war.
@samanthamalikov7157
@samanthamalikov7157 4 ай бұрын
Lol female soviet snipers were more myth than reality.
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 4 ай бұрын
A simple sniper, yet an effective one. Not very glamorous or stylistic, but reliable and cheap for when you need sniper rifles built for the harsh environment and weather on the eastern front.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 4 ай бұрын
A sniper rifle in it's day. A designated marksman rifle today. Not that anyone who had their brains splattered over the ruins of Stalingrad would ever care for such a distinction.
@brucechynoweth
@brucechynoweth 4 ай бұрын
Mosin videos never get old, thank You...
@JopoJoful
@JopoJoful 4 ай бұрын
Handled it in Moscow museum about a month ago. This extended bolt grip makes charging process almost x2 faster. Cheep and stupid effective upgrade
@ImperialSenpai
@ImperialSenpai 4 ай бұрын
It’s probably not in a museum anymore.
@JopoJoful
@JopoJoful 4 ай бұрын
@@ImperialSenpai it is. Guns there are deactivated with the barrel being shredded or something. They also show many soviet and russian guns from sawn-off mosin to vintorez and ak12. Not to mention yugo mp40 clone, sten and mg42. Such a great museum: you can handle everything and reload
@ImperialSenpai
@ImperialSenpai 4 ай бұрын
@@JopoJoful I was joking around about how both the Russians and Ukrainians are using guns that belong in a museum to fight against each other. If it is that makes me happy and I’d love to see it, once the Russian, Ukrainian, and Western governments stop trying to destroy each other.
@kutter_ttl6786
@kutter_ttl6786 4 ай бұрын
​@@JopoJoful I wish more military museums were that hands on.
@sailrecoveryify
@sailrecoveryify 4 ай бұрын
I bought a Mosin years ago. It was very accurate with open sights at 100 yards! I put a thumb hole stock on it, had the bolt bent, and a long eye relief scope. It shoots 1/2-1" groups at 100 yards off the bench. What find!
@pine0981
@pine0981 Ай бұрын
That is probably the best looking one I've ever seen.
@capncrunchdorf
@capncrunchdorf 2 ай бұрын
I watch pretty much all your videos they are super informative, entertaining, and your dulcet tones have the added benefit of putting my 4mo old son to sleep. I hope he subconsciously absorbs all the fantastic information that you give us on each video. Thanks Ian!
@4RulesForBeginners
@4RulesForBeginners 4 ай бұрын
I found an Ex PE on gunbroker going as a regular 91/30. It still shoots 2 inch groups at 75 yards. And when it was below freezing outside and I shot very slow. I had a sub Mia group with round on top of one another. Shot while locked into a tripod. The only reason it became an infantry rifle is because of the poor scope mounts. I have a video on it on my page.
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 4 ай бұрын
"Do you hear me, Snake? I am The End."
@nvkulk
@nvkulk 4 ай бұрын
Name’s Plissken
@Andrew-dm8mk
@Andrew-dm8mk 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upload, that’s answered a lot of questions I had 🔥👍🙏
@robbrown4053
@robbrown4053 4 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your presentations. Well done!
@tom_anderson
@tom_anderson 4 ай бұрын
Sadly I live in a country where we are not allowed scissors let alone sniper rifles so I cannot enter this competition,. Fantastic channel though Ian. I love the combination of history, engineering, and pew pew.
@ShootingHobby
@ShootingHobby 4 ай бұрын
This video answered a lot of questions about my Mosin. It is one of the X sniper rifles you talk about at the end of the video. Thanks for the video and information!!!
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for providing us with useful insight of this authentic sniper rifle, Comrade Ian. You never cease to interest me with firearms.
@richardturk7162
@richardturk7162 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@kawaiiarchive357
@kawaiiarchive357 4 ай бұрын
My introduction to the 91/30 pu was CoD: finest hour. You use it to defend a tractor factory and there's Germans trying to set up MG 42 on tripods. Good videogame sniper practice.
@gunman11
@gunman11 4 ай бұрын
The usual great job 👏 👍. Thanks again.
@EvMund
@EvMund 4 ай бұрын
you can often tell from the thumbnail whether or not Ian plans to try to make us get entered to win during the video
@falloutlover5443
@falloutlover5443 4 ай бұрын
I just assume any repeat (or vaguely repeated) video at this point is an ad. Incidentally, SponsorBlock is great.
@updog4L
@updog4L 4 ай бұрын
How?
@bwhog
@bwhog 4 ай бұрын
Hmmm.. Cold bore issues and rapid shifting suggests to me that the barrel and/or receiver was too light or the metallurgy was wrong (possibly both). Seems like that ought to be solvable under the normal teething routine. Of course, during war, there isn't a whole lot of time for experimentation so it's easy to understand why they went back to what they had before.
@tobingallawa3322
@tobingallawa3322 4 ай бұрын
My best friend has a Belgian made one that is a beauty, Russian one made in 1932 that is nicely finished and another Tula made in 1941 that is a bit rough looking, like they made it in a hurry
@PalKrammer
@PalKrammer 4 ай бұрын
Nice simple effective design of the side mount.
@kongoubongo1114
@kongoubongo1114 4 ай бұрын
A sniper rifle that has once again been dragged out of storage to serve in war. Along with Maxim machine guns.
@DistiIIer
@DistiIIer 4 ай бұрын
I have a 1943 Tula PU. It has a few battle scars but it's a beautiful piece of history. It was nice to get some history on it and be able to verify some details. It has the СН stamp on it, which I hadn't known the meaning of previously. Very cool. У благодарю вас за это видео 🙏🏼
@TheAudience388
@TheAudience388 3 ай бұрын
My Mosin is a regular infantry rifle that a previous owner put a scope and bent bolt on, but I still love it
@TMFShooting
@TMFShooting 4 ай бұрын
Wow Ian '' Another Great Video 💯Thanks for Sharing it 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@BeefaloBart
@BeefaloBart 4 ай бұрын
I would like to have another, sold the ones I had many years back and had one original and a couple knockoffs. Favorite part of my original was the scars on the stock near the bolt. Looked to me that it was from the shooter holding rounds in their hand as they single loaded rounds. Thus dragging them over the wood making the scratches.
@Smitty.Bacall
@Smitty.Bacall 4 ай бұрын
Finally Ian talks about the blessed 91/30 configuration. Scope bad but hit hard 7,62x54R together strong💪.
@theredparkourist5332
@theredparkourist5332 3 ай бұрын
love this thing Edit: i love any type of mosin not gonna lie
@dwightevans8545
@dwightevans8545 3 ай бұрын
I have two Ishevsk original snipers, and I appreciate this very well done presentation. You also answered a question that for years no one could, "what is that "C" within a circle? My regular 91/30s don't have that. I believed that it meant they are genuine snipers, and I was right...thanks again for this video.
@officercat7907
@officercat7907 4 ай бұрын
Hey Ian! Love the coverage on Soviet weapons recently! Will you ever do the Tokarev/SVT-40 sniper variant as well? (And shoot it too?) thank you for your hard work!
@011CJ
@011CJ 4 ай бұрын
Thanks again
@bruceinoz8002
@bruceinoz8002 4 ай бұрын
Nice piece if history, especially all the "refurb" stuff and the little details like the iron sight differences. East Germany also fielded a similar package, but with obviously different markings. A small number made it to Australia, back in the early 1980s, which is how I got to see, but never own, one They have disappeared into the collector-land woodwork, apparently. Oddly enough, a few years back, the bolts for these started turning up at random gun-shows. ALL that I saw had been numbered, so probably NOT armourer's "spares", fresh out of an ordnance depot. . Another of life's little mysteries.
@dakotanewcombe7843
@dakotanewcombe7843 4 ай бұрын
I had a 1943 M91/30 from the Izhevsk factory, and I can attest to the absolute garbage they were throwing out. Mine shot 25in groups at 50 yards. Ended up selling it for 2x what I paid for it a few years after I got it
@bwhog
@bwhog 4 ай бұрын
The other issue with the PU scope and the 1300 meter distance is that it is a simple post reticle. So that makes precise aiming at extreme distances very, very tough because holdover is difficult to judge. Add in the "3 MOA" and at 1000 meters, you'd be putting rounds into a 3 meter circle, assuming you accounted for the wind correctly.
@Duncomrade
@Duncomrade 4 ай бұрын
At the long ranges they would have been aiming at group targets, not individuals
@bwhog
@bwhog 4 ай бұрын
@@Duncomrade Well, the Soviets have a different philosophy on the sniper than other militaries. To me, their role was basically as marksmen operating semi-independently not firing at specific high value targets, but conducting general harassment operations near or slightly in front of the lines in order to to inflict as many casualties on the enemy as they could, preferably serious non-fatal injuries that would take them off the battlefield but still leave them consuming resources in the form of food and water and medical supplies as well as people to tend to them. So with that, long ranges wouldn't generally be deployed, although as their skill increased, their range would increase also.
@tomm9963
@tomm9963 4 ай бұрын
Underappreciated weapon on Rising Storm: Vietnam
@teejin669
@teejin669 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, but unless you arent playing on a realistic damage server the Mas is 95% of the time the better choice. I usually stick to [=H=] or LMC gaming
@cmdrx5099
@cmdrx5099 4 ай бұрын
Hard hitting round. Most people now say the 91/30 was not good but with that, many German soldiers did not say so, they’re dead.
@madaboutmilitaria3630
@madaboutmilitaria3630 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful rifle, the polish stocks are the best😍
@kylewalsh1058
@kylewalsh1058 4 ай бұрын
We need more comrade instructions from Ian 😂
@user-ll1sr4lm2f
@user-ll1sr4lm2f 4 ай бұрын
Thanks , just received my Mug yesterday.
@adamsowers8957
@adamsowers8957 3 ай бұрын
I have a M91/30. Irons only version. They have a bad reputation being called "Garbage Rods" ect. I got my hands on an unissued, like new condition rifle. It is suprisingly accurate for what it is.
@fatcat-rr9oe
@fatcat-rr9oe 4 ай бұрын
It might be hard to believe but the rifle still appeared in Russian trenches a few days ago
@user-cy1rm5vb7i
@user-cy1rm5vb7i 4 ай бұрын
it and regular mosins have been on the both sides since the beginning, in civilian or civilian guard hands mostly tho
@mgabriel2636
@mgabriel2636 4 ай бұрын
After ww3, there will still be twinkies cockroaches taxes and mosins.
@alltat
@alltat 4 ай бұрын
It still works just fine for its intended role, so it makes sense.
@fatcat-rr9oe
@fatcat-rr9oe 4 ай бұрын
@@alltat The K98 and M1 are also excellent, but they don't appear in modern armies
@alltat
@alltat 4 ай бұрын
@@fatcat-rr9oe Rate of fire matters a lot more for regular infantry than for snipers.
@moneyenjoyer
@moneyenjoyer 4 ай бұрын
Cool gun
@Coltbreath
@Coltbreath 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Ian my first milsurp was a 91/30
@ianashby3626
@ianashby3626 4 ай бұрын
Got. To Handle 9130 pu sniper rifle at a shooting range in the south island
@cheesenoodles8316
@cheesenoodles8316 4 ай бұрын
The Polish refurbs (and new M44) are very nice. I aquired a Russian PU when the first hit US market and all these years later ...still works great. Also have a surplus PU scope to use as a small monocular... it has went everywhere...all range trips, camping, impromptu show n tell....it still is working great. That is a great example of a PU...Russian Mfg n Polish refurb. Somebody needs it.
@edwinlee6864
@edwinlee6864 4 ай бұрын
There are accurizing kits with strips of cloth and small steel shims. It takes a lot ammo to adjust.
@J.P.101
@J.P.101 4 ай бұрын
Now I'm curious about the Hungarian M52 version that you mentioned in the latter part of the video. I own one of these examples but didn't know that there were differences between it and the Russian.
@bobbressi5414
@bobbressi5414 2 ай бұрын
Of all the WW2 era bolt guns I have fired, the Nagant's recoil is the least pleasant. The stock geometry seems to be a big reason for this.
@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo
@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo 2 ай бұрын
Good, interesting, informative video, thanks. What was the cost and year of this rifle as it is.
@jon4139
@jon4139 4 ай бұрын
I notice this stock doesn't have the escutcheons for the sling, which is unusual for a rifle made to a pre-war fit and finish. Most wartime stocks even have them. Otherwise the stock looks good, has the cutaway near the rear barrel band, and the grip channel seems uniform and well-cut.
@pathowgate2544
@pathowgate2544 4 ай бұрын
My sniper of choice back in the old CoD WaW days
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 4 ай бұрын
Love mine
@jorgamund07
@jorgamund07 4 ай бұрын
16:57 When the Soviets decommissioned an "ex-sniper" into a standard rifle, did they fix the taller front sight zero?
@lukehorning3404
@lukehorning3404 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Enemy at Gates
@bogdanfabian2330
@bogdanfabian2330 4 ай бұрын
18 likes and 3 views seems legit KZfaq.
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 4 ай бұрын
​@@neilcook4686 IIRC, the like can be clicked immediately, for a view it requires some time/percentage of the video viewed.
@Enraged-Gecko
@Enraged-Gecko Ай бұрын
Flip rifle, open magazine floorplate, load with stripper clip, close floorplate.
@christopherkemp4202
@christopherkemp4202 4 ай бұрын
Neat.
@chrisgs8727
@chrisgs8727 3 ай бұрын
I heard that evgeny dragunov colaborate in kotchetov mount design..
@austinclements8010
@austinclements8010 4 ай бұрын
soviet design during ww2 kindve assumed your lifespan would be shorter than pizza
@LD-Orbs
@LD-Orbs 4 ай бұрын
They're kinda surprised if you hit the two-week mark!
@Gorsky69
@Gorsky69 4 ай бұрын
It is a pity that the Soviet government destroyed or sold magnificent samples of Mosin sniper rifles , they did not appreciate their own weapons heritage . Such rifles are only in museums and military units as an exhibit . Excellent turning and milling work.
@owenberg3366
@owenberg3366 4 ай бұрын
Dude I’m an an American and I have one of these. They’re still prevalent.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 4 ай бұрын
All weapons go through New -> Dated -> Old Useless Junk -> Historically Interesting -> Hot Collectors Item..... It's the Old Useless Junk phase that is the bane of quite many things. But that is also the phase that eventually get the remaining examples so rare that collectors keep the remaining items as original as possible.
@exuberance3973
@exuberance3973 4 ай бұрын
A couple of these posted in the northwest airfield ATC and you own an entire military complex
@2fwelding842
@2fwelding842 4 ай бұрын
Womder if that 1200 in 1947 was eother a final run before retiring equipment, or 1947 they had another gun in mind. Maybe they wanted fresh batch to test against future snioer versions to be on even field
@franciswilliam7694
@franciswilliam7694 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t know I needed Russian Ian 😮
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog 4 ай бұрын
That Polish stock sure had someone from the factory busting the sawyers' balls for quality grade quarter-sawn lumber. Subtle medulary rays in between the grain at 7:49. Nice.
@josemoreno3334
@josemoreno3334 4 күн бұрын
Outstanding video. I was hoping one day you'll talked about this great sniper rifle. My oldest brother who was sent to fight in Vietnam wayback 1971-72. He was with the 1st. Cav. Div. He told me one of there teams went outside the camp after a firefight to find dead or wounded VC. The team found one of those rifle's that was left behind by one of the VCs. They think he must have got wounded and dropped it there . He has a pitcher of himself holding that rifle. 🪖
@Dr.LightMarker5613
@Dr.LightMarker5613 4 ай бұрын
You know whats wild? I was just playing Sudden Strike 4 Russian-Finnish campaign, and was accosted by Finnish sharp shooters using these, very timely!
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 4 ай бұрын
I always thought the high mounting was to enable clip loading. Why the high mount with attendant lack of cheek weld on the stock? Doesn't seem conducive to accuracy.
@cameronnewton7053
@cameronnewton7053 4 ай бұрын
I remember a video where someone did a "cursed sniper mosin reload" where they just opened the magazine and put a clip in the bottom....
@lobotomyy
@lobotomyy 4 ай бұрын
PU Stands for polyurethane
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 4 ай бұрын
Sniper Rifle in World War 2 No:1 M1903A4 Springfield Rifle with 5x Scope No:2 Lee Enfield Rifle with Scope No:3 Mosin Nagant M1891/30 with PU Scope No:4 Karabiner 98K with ZK Scope No:5 Arisaka Rifle Type 38 or 97 or 99 Rifle with Scope No:6 Carcano M91/38 with Scope No:7 MAS 36 rifle with Scope
@Rogus_mtb
@Rogus_mtb 4 ай бұрын
Actually, it stands for "pritsel universalny" (universal scope).
@lobotomyy
@lobotomyy 4 ай бұрын
@@Rogus_mtb thanks, i intentionally posted a false statement in order for someone to give me the correct meaning for PU😂
@courierdog1941
@courierdog1941 3 ай бұрын
Ian, when you are doing your rant on the inability of the 91/30 PU sniper to use stripper clips, you neglected to mention the Russian work around of the drop magazine door, method of loading. very typically Russian, however unorthodox.
@raouldukestudios
@raouldukestudios 4 ай бұрын
Got mine after beating some old guy in a sniper duel. Had to be at least 100+ years old
@giec3484
@giec3484 4 ай бұрын
Now this is quite a long shot question, but do you think that without having to urgely backtrack into massive Mosin Nagant production, would the ussr have been able to "fix" the SVT40 issues? Were there other similar semiauto eligible test weapons?
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 3 ай бұрын
Well, what do you know! I have the same marking on my PU, only it's 438181!
@phileas007
@phileas007 4 ай бұрын
Mosins, so hot right now
@owen1079
@owen1079 4 ай бұрын
Stalingrad was *so* derelicte
@dreamingflurry2729
@dreamingflurry2729 4 ай бұрын
Nice, but White Death sees your scope, smiles and uses iron sights :)
@Tu11iy
@Tu11iy 4 ай бұрын
True, but soviet snipers later surpassed the White Death by far. And Simo himself was eventually put out of action by a soviet sniper. They were no joke.
@fr4ct1v09
@fr4ct1v09 4 ай бұрын
@@Tu11iy Cos for every one he took out, Red Army would put another 3 or 4 more. In soviet Russia quantity is quality! Well, in federal Russia kind of also...
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 4 ай бұрын
is this a re upload or was i dreaming? i swear i saw a video just like this recently from ian
@idioluh5838
@idioluh5838 3 ай бұрын
I believe there were shorter, like, 3-bullet clips which you could've used. Maybe "field mod" to original clip.
@rodgerfayziev6971
@rodgerfayziev6971 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the interesting video - I am an artist, and your videos on your channel are very interesting and important! Good wishes from Tashkent!
@rogerhudson1159
@rogerhudson1159 4 ай бұрын
I watched a movie titled Company of Heros on Netflex which featured an American sniper with a rifle that I did not recognize. Mabe you could identify it.
@danielrocha-garcia8609
@danielrocha-garcia8609 4 ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered how good/bad my Mosin is. It’s an Ishevsk factory built in 1939 and I’ve always noticed the bolt doesnt really stick much at least at first but it’s never been a huge issue. I also never fire it for so many rounds but if anyone can tell me if the fact that it’s ishevsk and built in 1939 means anything I’d appreciate it. I love the thing to be honest
@ryaneastwood6674
@ryaneastwood6674 2 ай бұрын
I dont blame them for the bad stamping, try stamping a circle on a cylinder, doesn't go well lmao
@trentsnaza3372
@trentsnaza3372 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion you are the expert on Mosin nagant's. Have a question. I bought a 1937 izzy 91/30, with a chopped up stock. I did buy a replacement stock for it. I was told it is a Sako Finnish capture. It has the [SA] mark on the receiver. A dude said on Facebook that, that's not Sako!! That's the Finnish Army Property mark! Sako is the S in a cogwheel only!! Can shine any light on this subject?? Thank you very much
@theol3199
@theol3199 4 ай бұрын
Having a Russian refurb 91/30 pu and a ex pu, they are fantastic rifles, probably the best sniper of ww2.
@jankusthegreat9233
@jankusthegreat9233 4 ай бұрын
U are awesome
@ctlindcetera8321
@ctlindcetera8321 3 ай бұрын
Mosin 91/30 PU
@Aintence
@Aintence 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if that small batch from '47 was made for ceremonial purposes.
@burchie1224
@burchie1224 4 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the 1300 meter shooter using a 3.5 power scope. An easy feat by most accounts.
@ericfalcone7142
@ericfalcone7142 29 күн бұрын
i just bought a mosin PU sniper the other day. it is definitely an original sniper as it has the tall front sight, 2 letter serial number prefix, matching bent bolt and the C stamp. The scope is a Ukrainian reproduction, both the rifle and the scope mount are Izhevsk. What is odd is there is no stamped scope serial number on the receiver, instead it is painted onto the scope base the way Tula did. So its definitely an Izhevsk scope base yet its serialized like a Tula. anyone have any idea why this is?
@cherminatorDR
@cherminatorDR 4 ай бұрын
Maybe people were just more optimistic back then. You know what they say - aim for 1300m, and if you miss - you'll land in a farm the next county over.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 4 ай бұрын
Well aware of what you mean by "Pre War standards My Mosin is a 1928 Tula rifle, and for a "Soviet" Arm it is very nicely made/finished. Nicely accurate too , but then the sights seem so much better to me than, say, the awful German V notch etc.... I suspect IT would easily qualify as a WW2 "Sniper" rifle on that basis...
@hamzasharif1478
@hamzasharif1478 4 ай бұрын
Can you please identify my rifle, I have a milled receiver under folding 5.45x39 AK. Which seems quite strange for me since there are no models that I know of that were milled, look exactly like the type 3 AK but are chambered in 5.45. It has Izhevsk markings on it and do look quite authentic since I also own an AKM and a type 56, and it looks like an original rifle has all the proof markings as well. At first I thought it might be a high quality replica but I have seen other rifles that were exactly the same also chambered in 5.45. I have done a fair bit of research but haven’t found anything online that would fit the criteria. Please share if there is a way to show you its pictures, it would be greatly appreciated if you could shed some light on it.
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