Mosin Nagant 91/30 - A Truly Fantastic Russian Rifle

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USOG

USOG

7 жыл бұрын

A showcase and discussion about the mosin nagant, a russian masterpiece in its own right.

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@Stigstigster
@Stigstigster 7 жыл бұрын
Nice look at the Nagant. I like your presenting style too. Nice and calm and clear. There are too many over-excited presenters in the world! I'm going to watch some more over the coming days.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stigstigster! My family and relations are not as calm - but my mother tells me that my great grandmother who lived in a town in Swabia was well known for always being quiet and reflective. I guess she lives on in me somehow.
@zh3401
@zh3401 4 жыл бұрын
I just found this video, great presentation sir. Reminded me of an Alaskan hunt in 1998. We stopped in Noorvik for supplies - the small store carried all the necessities. In the corner by the cash register was a barrel, the sign on it said "your choice $35 each". Inside were nine Nagant rifles in various condition. I asked the proprietor about this and he told me that this rifle was very commonly used by the native Alaskan people to hunt seal, moose and other game. The rifles in the barrel were are in working order, just not what a collector would be looking for. This is a testament to the durability and quality of these rifles and the capabilities of a people to be able to put food on the table in this most harsh environment with them.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 4 жыл бұрын
Great story. I understand the Nagant is used in places where things have to work no matter what - I'm sure the Inuit know places where there is nothing and no one - and a gun just has to do what it is supposed to. I'd take a Nagant too.
@davewinter2688
@davewinter2688 Жыл бұрын
Hey it's me again Mike. Another fine video from several years ago that I just discovered. Gee, you have good taste in music too. Another obviously knowledgeable viewer commented that he was somewhat confused by the selection. I found it entertaining with the well done videography. With the Christmas decor you might have selected Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker Suite but your selection was fair and balanced with no political interpretation. As to the Mosin-Nagant, until about 10 years ago I didn't think much of it (mostly because of styling) until I looked at the ballistics of the 7.62x54R cartridge. It gets pretty close to 30-06. I don't have one, but maybe some day.
@billyraydavis3400
@billyraydavis3400 5 жыл бұрын
I love my 91/30 dragon it's not a tack driver but it gets the deer in the freezer every year with the iron sights no problem as long as I keep it to 300 yards or less great Channel the best I've seen on KZfaq so informative thank you for all the hard work it takes to get it all done
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Billy Ray! And I'm glad you shared your experience and success with the Mosin and iron sights. Iron sights are wonderful and rifles handle better without a scope and except when light is fading I find I do just as well with iron sights. Of course, eyesight can be an issue and if safety is impaired than one has to use a scope.
@billyraydavis3400
@billyraydavis3400 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. People forget it was done for over a couple hundred years they knew what they were doing iron sights are a art and a science to use few people nowadays will take the time to learn to use them and thank you sir
@barkerjames1980
@barkerjames1980 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and nice rifles! From the looks of your Mosin, it's an ex-dragoon rifle, and I have one identical to it. If you're not familiar with this variant, it is a model 1891 Dragoon rifle that was reworked to the 91/30 configuration. The hexagonal receiver, 91/30 sights, and the spring-type barrel band retainers are the distinguishing features there. Great guns and not as common as the standard 91/30!
@garaldtao1801
@garaldtao1801 6 жыл бұрын
The music is totally throwing me off... Bizet is French and Carmen is an opera based in Spain. Let see, Germany took over France and had an agreement with Spain, which was neutral in WWII but provide rear echelon firearms to the Germans such as the Star, Star B and Super B. The connection might be a bit of a stretch but the Germans did fear the Russians when the tide of WWII turned and the Russians weren't only at their door step but managed to kick down the front door armed with and proving that the moist nugget is much more than that. At best it was a robust firearm that everyone knew how to use and at its worse it is a hard club made of steel and wood, both ways equally effective when correctly. Keep up the good work, really enjoy the videos.
@matthewp7586
@matthewp7586 4 жыл бұрын
Chatellerault in France built Mosin-Nagant rifles for the Russians! Maybe we could use that?
@davewinter2688
@davewinter2688 Жыл бұрын
I think USOG has good tastes in multiple areas.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 6 жыл бұрын
My god! You have a fantastic collection you have there! Right now I have a Izhevsk 1942 which has been refinished after the war and it shoots alright. My pride and joy is my Finnish M39 which can out shoot my Rock Island M1903 and M1 Garand made by Breda. I am trying to hunt down a decent condition Remington or Westinghouse Model 1891s made during WWI.
@allovitz9134
@allovitz9134 5 жыл бұрын
I've been following you for over 2 years. The review of the Mosin Nagant was one of the 1st reviews that I remember. I too am somewhat of a technocrat, and enjoy, not only the history of firearms, but how they work too. Since you've done a Russian Mosin, I would really like to see a review of the Finnish version, the M-39. My best, Al Lovitz
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Al - great idea - I'll find one. They seem to be quite expensive - no doubt for good reason. Thanks for sticking with me - I've learned a lot and hopefully shared what I know.
@allovitz9134
@allovitz9134 5 жыл бұрын
I have a refurbished Russian 91/30, Hex Receiver with a date of 1928, will all matching #s. My Son has a Round Receiver 91/30 dated 1936 in original condition with all matching #s. I bought a M-39 last year, that is in excellent condition with all matching #s. Apparently, I'm hooked on these rifles. I blame Iraqveteran8888 for this. BTW, I really dislike calling you USOG, a name, or an alias would be nice! Best regards, Al
@ghostuscoyote
@ghostuscoyote 5 жыл бұрын
The first Mosin I owned was a M91/30 that I bought last year for $200. It was not too pleasant to shoot, had a fairly rusty bore, and started falling apart after a few shots (barrel bands would jump the retainers and the cleaning rod would come loose and fall out). I wrote Mosins off as "garbage rods" and traded it to a pawn shop for money towards a Swedish Mauser and an Egyptian Hakim. No regrets there. A few months ago however, a like new condition Mosin M44 showed up on the shelf and I told myself that if I was going to collect at least one example of a Mosin, this is the one. $350 out the door and I don't regret it. This is one beautiful rifle with a shiny bore that shoots straight! I hand made a leather cheek rest with bullet loops on the side and put a Pachmayr Decelerator on the back and what a pleasure it is to shoot! Easily one of my favorite rifles.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ghostus - you bet - those Mosins are accurate and tough. I like your idea of the leather cheek rest as the drop at comb is significant and the Decelerator is a good idea too. As you know, the Mosin with that 7.62X54R has some sauce to it and snappy recoil. You tamed it! Thanks for writing.
@shawnwells5719
@shawnwells5719 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1938 Izhevsk for a shooter about five years ago. Mounted it in a ATI stock and removed the rear sight and clamped a scout mount and long eye relief 2x7 scope. Shoot it does: Barnaul 174 FMJ ammo will group into about 1.5 MOA, despite the horrendous 9 lb. trigger.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodbo1252
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodbo1252 7 жыл бұрын
they're very Accurate
@sooner5484
@sooner5484 5 жыл бұрын
Love mine, as you say its as Russian as the people and thats where its beauty is. It's a joy to shoot and the ammo is relatively inexpensive. Thank you for the vid, cheers.
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 4 жыл бұрын
Good looking 91/30 you have. Mine is similar with the hex receiver. The receiver for that Mosin was made by Remington under a 1915 contract with Russia. Also have the M44 Carbine. The Russian 7.62x54r uses a slow burning powder based on some observations I've noticed. With the M44 short barrel it blasts donuts, especially noticeable in low light.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich - I was wondering why the carbine seems to be a fire breathing dragon. Now I know. I better dig out the dies and load some fast burning powder. : ) Thanks for the note!
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I'm assuming slow burning powder is the reason for the fireball from a short barrel. I'm eager to see you results with a fast burning one. If the assumption is correct, you should see better performance overall from the carbine.
@anttipennanen8766
@anttipennanen8766 6 жыл бұрын
Hello again! I think in my honest opinion, the best conversions of Mosin-Nagant is the Finnish infantry Rifle M/27 (Pystykorva) desing by Kuusisto and the M/39 (Ukko-Pekka). I have shot the M/39 a few times and the barrel is excellent. With iron sights you can easily hit your target even with a good distance. Also one feature with the rifle is that it is reliable and easy to maintain. And also it doesn`t jam on you that easily. The Mosin-Nagant is not the only design we "took" from the russians. The Finnish assault rifle RK62 is based on the russian AK-47 in many ways. And you can throw RK62 in a swamp for a week and it still works. :D Nice video once again.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Antti! I agree - the Finnish Mosin is the best; those rifles easily command the highest prices for Mosins - which means people know. I'll have to read about the RK62 - I had a Valmet Hunter in 30-06 - which was a sporter/AK - so well made.
@anttipennanen8766
@anttipennanen8766 6 жыл бұрын
Valmet Petra is a conversion of RK62, or the other way around I´m not sure. Any way I belive they use the same chamber desing, only that the Petra is a semi-automatic. hey maybe you´ll do a video about the the RK62 or RK95 compared to AK-47. You´ll never know. :D
@danrunner84
@danrunner84 Жыл бұрын
Bizet's Carmen. Nice.
@mrsquishyboots
@mrsquishyboots 6 жыл бұрын
I paid $150 for mine. Made in 1938, Tula. I have a ton of surplus ammo. Glad I stocked up when I did. Good brass is not cheap lol.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 6 жыл бұрын
Owning one is owning a part of history - as you know. Good idea on the ammo - I did the same thing - even if mine is rust ammo. : )
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I stocked up on the Tulammo with steel casings, but it will dirty up a gun like nobodies business. I have to clean my guns every time I shoot that cheap Russian ammo.
@jeffscuderi8662
@jeffscuderi8662 3 жыл бұрын
Paid 49 for mine new carbine
@sandych33ks1
@sandych33ks1 4 жыл бұрын
I remember buying these for 100 and now all the gun shops are selling them for 300 and up. Its like all mill surp guns. The prices just keep going up. Its a great gun to shoot and fun to collect.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 4 жыл бұрын
Up and up - they are so great!
@Cloudstrife112233
@Cloudstrife112233 6 жыл бұрын
Oh no, you scoped a Chilean 1912, didn't you? I'm not an Uber purist, but there are a few old rifles that I feel should never be altered and a few of the south American Mausers fall into that category. It is a beautiful rifle though.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. If I get them drilled and tapped I may as well use the holes. Other than that I never drill and tap - no need - with all the rifles that are factory prepared for scopes. I try to leave guns untouched from the factory; military or sporting.
@randyschaff8939
@randyschaff8939 4 жыл бұрын
Hey 👋 l have that same book. It’s a good one. I also have a 9130 Tula. Not a mark on it. Made in 1939. Never issued l am thinking 🤔 Take care of yourself bud🇨🇦🤠
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 4 жыл бұрын
We must be the only 2 - I've never seen that book anywhere. Nice Tula!
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 4 жыл бұрын
I think most of the Mosin hate is from how most of these rifles have been through one or two of the most brutal conflicts in history and show that wear, and the general problem of people treating things like cheap crap and getting what they expect. In my experience the bolt wont't stick if the chamber is clean and free from pitting, and you aren't running surplus ammo through it with degraded powder that's gone greatly over pressure. Trigger is usable, albeit heavy, with just stoning of the contact surfaces to smooth them out. Accuracy can be brought up to typical milsurp bolt gun levels (3-4 moa with surplus ammo) playing with the stock bedding/barrel pressure. They're ugly and clunky compared to anything else, but they're perfectly serviceable rifles if you treat them as such and pick out one with life left in it. That said I can't really blame anyone for not buying one outside of historical interest with how expensive they've gotten, surplus ammo drying up, and how affordable a new .308 bolt gun has gotten.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent post.
@lomparti
@lomparti Жыл бұрын
I have one of these 91/30 rifles. Its in good shape, numbers matching refurb with the bbq painted metal so not really a collectors rifle I would say. Got it for $300 and Im planning to cut the barrel down to 19" and just use it for plinking with corrosive surplus ammo. Whats your take on cutting barrels? Should I just leave it the way it is and buy a M44 nagant instead?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Жыл бұрын
Hello - I have a similar rifle. I would leave the barrel as is and buy a carbine if a handier carbine is needed. I got used to the longer barrel item. Mine shoots very well - excellent actually - they're mostly like that. Good shooting.
@HVACKABOOM
@HVACKABOOM 3 жыл бұрын
Have the book, have the gun.....
@johannesvanhoek9080
@johannesvanhoek9080 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video , the book and the music scene was cool ! The mosin is a interesting and good rifle but the Finnish people made it great , they installed better wood and much better barrels and tweaked the the action and bolts , I have many examples of both and enjoy shooting both ,,, thanks again for another fine video ,,, PS. The hex receivers were milled and are much more desirable but even the round receivers can with stand pressures exceeding 90,000 PSI 👍
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 4 жыл бұрын
90,000 PSI ! No wonder the Mosin seems to last forever. This was a very early video - when I knew even less than I know now : ) I'm glad it is still not a disaster.
@johannesvanhoek9080
@johannesvanhoek9080 4 жыл бұрын
USOG it was very enjoyable and informative and as always , thank you 😊
@johannesvanhoek9080
@johannesvanhoek9080 4 жыл бұрын
USOG it was very enjoyable and informative and as always , thank you 😊
@bentro2651
@bentro2651 6 жыл бұрын
Hows the march in the beginning called?
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, I'll look. I hope I find.
@dungspreader
@dungspreader 6 жыл бұрын
It's the prelude from the opera Carmen .[ I think ].
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodbo1252
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodbo1252 7 жыл бұрын
I love shooting these things with a PU Scope
@GreetingsandSalutations4007
@GreetingsandSalutations4007 3 жыл бұрын
May I ask what in Russian history have you read? As in books, articles etc.
@UnitedStatesOfGuns
@UnitedStatesOfGuns 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Wyatt, Great question - So many fantastic Russian books and books on Russia. I struggled with this answer. For sheer beauty and brilliance "And Quiet Flows the Don" by Mikhail Sholokhov, He won the Nobel Prize ; also - Russka by Edward Rutherford - a vast work covering countless years, any Russian history book, Dr. Zhivago - by Boris Pasternak - he won the Nobel Prize as well. War and Peace - Tolstoy ; stories by Maxim Gorky - not his real name - The Overcoat : unforgettable - The History of the Russian Revolution - Trotsky and The Gulag Archipelego by Solzhenitsyn....the list is long. The Romanovs. Sorry the answer is on many tracks. Russia and the Russian people are so varied - a nation of immense depth and meaning. I hope to read more as overall I only read these mentioned and a few more - there is much more to know. You likely know more than I do. All the best.
@GreetingsandSalutations4007
@GreetingsandSalutations4007 3 жыл бұрын
USOG thank you so much! Your response is perfect. I highly doubt that I know more than you. But thank you again for the in depth answer. You are correct, Russia and its people are so varied and so deep. You’re videos are excellent; beautiful rifles.
@allovitz9134
@allovitz9134 5 жыл бұрын
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@katana258
@katana258 4 жыл бұрын
thing is none can shoot over 100 yards and hit a person with out a scope ..shame fun gun . very bad short bolt handle .no leverage .. working safety is basic not able to engage .. so leave the chamber empty .solid nothing can break will last 100's of years ..but do not expect to hit anything with iron sights... great rifle for russian people who can not write / read . understand how anything works .. basic with a bayonet with a long wood stick that might go bang 4-5 times
@jeffscuderi8662
@jeffscuderi8662 3 жыл бұрын
Decent not fantastic
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