Mossberg 500 .410 Turkey Pattern Testing W/ Herter's TSS - Stock XF & Winchester Full Chokes

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Matt Tyree

Matt Tyree

Жыл бұрын

Today, we test pattern the Herter's TSS loads from a Mossberg 500 .410 Turkey at 40 yards with the stock XF choke as well as a Winchester full choke. These were definitely some interesting results to say the least, so stick around and find out what kind of performance we can get!
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Matt Tyree
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Warrenton, VA 20186
Shoutout to the Blue Collar Outdoors guys for the idea and design of using the target backers for this pattern test

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@ScottWhalen-ff3ge
@ScottWhalen-ff3ge 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you.
@robertthaxton820
@robertthaxton820 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review and very helpful.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I will have a bunch more videos coming out over the coming weeks and months on these shells as well as a bunch of others, so stick around!
@jnie370
@jnie370 7 ай бұрын
Great info. Thanks
@johnbowhunter7676
@johnbowhunter7676 Жыл бұрын
When I bought apex ninja last year it was $60 for a box of 10…. It patterned awesome in my Stevens…. I liked the Winchester choke in your gun over the factory choke, much more even pattern with less voids.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
The Apex loads are definitely on the list for shells I want to test out since I know they typically pattern well. I was surprised at what that winchester full choke did. Definitely a more open core, but less voids like you said
@burkejones8277
@burkejones8277 Жыл бұрын
They shoot great in my 20 gauge. Almost the identical pattern I get from Apex. I like the full in this video.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
They are definitely sleepers for what they are. That full choke shoots surprisingly well. I want to do some more testing with it to really see what it can do
@vincehoffmaster-dx5jw
@vincehoffmaster-dx5jw Жыл бұрын
Great pattern’s. I picked up 4 Boxes last week. Will Try this weekend. Shooting a Mossberg SA 410 Indian creek .385
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got a good setup. I bet that .385 is gonna work well with them
@juliusjames5577
@juliusjames5577 Жыл бұрын
I sure do like my Winchester LB XR shells 12 ga. and no reason to spend the big bucks on Tungsten. But I sure am impressed what they are doing for the .410.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like them too. I have a video out patterning the 12 gauge longbeard 6s already and I have filmed a couple other longbeard tests that I'm gonna be posting soon. The problem with lead loads in a 410 is that you need the larger shot size to retain energy, but the pellet count and pattern suffers drastically, which is where the tungsten stuff comes in
@burkejones8277
@burkejones8277 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. The 3.5 inch LB XR #5 Magnums (1050 fps) is hard to beat out of my 12 gauge. But I set up a 20 for next season; probably use both along the way.
@juliusjames5577
@juliusjames5577 Жыл бұрын
Yep, same shell I use out of a Winchester SX3 with a Rob Roberts .655 choke.
@zachschoels8597
@zachschoels8597 Жыл бұрын
Was hesitant on buying these until now.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they seem to perform great, especially for the price and only being a 3/4oz payload
@rodneylingle
@rodneylingle Жыл бұрын
I have a REM 20 and a Winchester 20. Shoot TSS no 9 in both. I use the factory Full in both guns and the pattern is great in both guns. I think the patterns are more uniform when you don't use xtra tight chokes.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've seen the larger shot like 8s and 9s perform a little better through more open chokes while the smaller shot like 9.5s and 10s seem to like a little more constriction. It's something that I plan to test once I get my hands on some more loads and chokes
@mitchelldexter1901
@mitchelldexter1901 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY I used to use a blackout turkey choke and the damn pattern was SUPER tight and clumpy and had a ton of fliers. I measured 300 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards. Now I use the factory full at of my Mossberg 20 gauge and it is a beautiful uniform pattern with a lot of leeway and I get about 200 pellets in a ten inch circle at 40.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@Mitchell Dexter yeah, I've seen similar things. I've got a Mossberg 835 ultimag that I run the factory full choke for turkey hunting. I have never even tried a dedicated turkey choke with it because the full just patterns nice and even out to 40 with no issues. It's another gun that I want to film some tests with at some point as well
@kevinward508
@kevinward508 Жыл бұрын
Federal sucks with the flight control wad,I personally think the lower weight shells shoot better then the higher weight ones do,when you start shoving more pellets down a tite choke you will get a lot of flyers less pellets tighter patteren,I shoot a 7/8oz hand load with a great patteren at 40,tried a 15/16oz and it was spread way out there
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
You definitely need to find the balance that your setup likes. Too tight of a choke with a large payload can definitely blow open
@kevinward508
@kevinward508 Жыл бұрын
I am shooting 9.5's out of my gun with a sumtoy customs choke.I am about to get Mt tristar viper 410 and I am going to have to do my homework all over again
@Bloucherford22
@Bloucherford22 4 ай бұрын
What is you best choke/ammo combo with that gun? I have the same one.
@littlejohnny210
@littlejohnny210 Жыл бұрын
Big name brands are usually lacking shot. It shot ok for what it is. Scoop up some Viper Ammunition, and a Patternmaster Code Black Turkey it's an insane combination!
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it wasn't bad for a budget load. I definitely have both of those on my list of stuff I eventually want to pick up and test out
@-B_G-
@-B_G- Жыл бұрын
What is Viper ammo website if you don’t mind? I can’t find em to order.
@littlejohnny210
@littlejohnny210 Жыл бұрын
​@@-B_G- here's a link to their face book it has all the information you need. If you need anything else let me know!
@-B_G-
@-B_G- Жыл бұрын
@@littlejohnny210- thanks man!
@-B_G-
@-B_G- Жыл бұрын
I cant see the link. Idk if it’s a KZfaq thing or what.
@curtiswireman6351
@curtiswireman6351 Жыл бұрын
My factory choke likes the Wilson customs 10’s and apex. Indian creek choke in .390 liked 9’s better. Same gun.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yeah that makes sense. The 10s typically like a little more constriction like the factory choke, but the 9s seem to do better with slightly less constriction
@abengtebaran5346
@abengtebaran5346 8 ай бұрын
I prefer the extrafull choke fantastic from the tested shots you made its shows alittle bit of groupin on the targets.like your shows honey.😊👍😳
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors 8 ай бұрын
It's definitely a good pattern either way!
@theeverlyboys8725
@theeverlyboys8725 Жыл бұрын
Try the federal tss in the full choke. My 410 with full choke shot better with the full choke then the extra full
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
That's definitely something I have on the list to test out. Hopefully I can get it filmed soon
@saltcreekammo
@saltcreekammo Жыл бұрын
Impressive performance for a cheaper name brand load.
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Wow, I definitely didn't expect to see you guys in the comments! I definitely have the Cold Turkey loads on my list of shells that I want to get my hands on and test out of this setup
@saltcreekammo
@saltcreekammo Жыл бұрын
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@timjones8184
@timjones8184 Жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that Winchester makes herters
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Yes, you would be correct. Herter's is loaded by Winchester for Bass Pro and Cabelas as their in house brand
@cameronschweitzer3382
@cameronschweitzer3382 Жыл бұрын
For the money verdicts are better there the same price and better rounds
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
The Verdict stuff is definitely on the list of things I want to test out. The problem is when you order ammo online, I have to pay most places almost 20 bucks to ship it to me. So at that point, the ammo costs quite a bit more per shell then what the price appears to be initially
@troyrussell4733
@troyrussell4733 Жыл бұрын
Apex, Rogue, or Verdict
@matttyreeoutdoors
@matttyreeoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Definitely all great loads that I'd like to get my hands on to test out
@troyrussell4733
@troyrussell4733 Жыл бұрын
@@matttyreeoutdoors I have a Patternmaster Code Black Turkey in my set up. All three of those loads throw a ridiculous pattern. It is unbelievable what TSS has done for sub gauges. I may never take a 12ga again. I have a 410 and M2 20ga. No sense in taking a mule kick if ya don't have to. LOL
@joshsinglefooter
@joshsinglefooter Жыл бұрын
I wont step down to .410 until TSS #10's are available in rouge or Apex are a main stay. Im just now stepping down from a 20 to a 28g because of rouge 1⅝ #9.5 TSS
@eduffy4937
@eduffy4937 10 ай бұрын
​@@joshsinglefootermec600jr buddy. Buy one for 250 bucks then roll your own for the rest of your life
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