There would have been too much lag, he woulda got punished

I'm pretty sure when he threw his controller it hit him in the face after it bounced back

Pretty sure that was a chair-cancel.

KENNYYYYYY!!!!!

Cvo777 ye the recovery on the move is insane for how low damage of a projectile it is

First killing time in a stalled match, then killing PM

The ad was more entertaining than the match.

@@snoopyguy21 TRUEEE

CHEDDAAAAR

So who ended up winning? I was a little confused

Well bayonetta didnt really kill Sm4sh. It was the toxic fanbase of Smash. With Bayonetta and Sm4sh's Ridiculously slow Launch speed, it was easy for Bayonetta to pull off combos. But if Bayonetta was truly Broken than MKLeo wouldve lost his title as the best smash player to some random bayonetta main

@@FurryBayo u mean zero

@@glueman7761 what? Zero lost his Title to MKLeo. And now MK is an overweight, toxic, self indulgent jerk. Hes literally letting his title go to his head.

@@FurryBayo u were talking about smash 4 and zero was the best smash 4 player and mained diddy kong, I don’t see MKleo as relevant to the topic of smash 4. Yes he’s better than zero in ultimate but zero was the best smash 4 player and is a better example as to why bayonetta didn’t break smash 4 because he didn’t main her and was still the best

@@glueman7761 umm... oh boy. You dont know about when Zero lost to MK

saaame. I just marathoned a bunch of his videos and got confused for a second

@@piccolo54trunks2 I think thats why it got into my recommended haha

4:41

Okay but they all had to think before saying which is worse

timing someone on wifi whit sonic is worst

@@sniddler9114 s n o w f l a k e : ^ )

@@TreebeardXIV d u m b a s s : ^ )

@@bladefox5082 D O N K E Y : ^ )

ohai etienne

A very slow one

Bruh any Sonic vs Wario match gives you an aneuriysm

Poor Tweek

Oh shit etienne

imaging thinking your rise to stardom should be wobbling literally every stock. No name guy only got this far because he can wobble, what a handicap.

@@FlyingRep I think he quit cuz wobbling got banned lmao

That was n0ne

I would have picked Samus to use the small bomb skill to dodge the first grab.

A true chad

I'm so happy Larry got back at them lmao

that bro needs a slap, hard

I could smell him through the video

Im glad sheik won. Especially when i saw the dude who played Villager. Friggin Dweeb and an asshole. Not a good combination lmfao.

He's too fast to the point in which he becomes slow. Integer Overflow

ironically Incineroar is one of the most interactive characters in the game

giving him the speed to go in with little time to react means he also has the ability to outrun everyone. Sadly it's a massive design oversight

Best song off of “So Much Fun”?

@@joaquinantoniovillegas7410 (Wheezy outta here...) Everything we do, we own [Young Thug & Travis Scott:] Fuck a cab, let's hop off a jet (Woo, let's go, hop off a jet) 'Bout to hop off the jet (Hop off the jet, hop off the jet) I put the glow on her wrists (Yeah), I got that glow on my bitch (Yeah) I keep the drum on the TEC, hop out the Cullinan, baby (Skrrt) Won't you tell me that you tried? Hop in a McLaren, please, let's just ride Hop in a McLaren, zoom Baby, tell me why you starin', zoom, yeah Hop, hop right on a jet, uh (Yeah) Way more smoother than a plane, yeah Way more quicker than a 'Vette, uh (Yeah) Teach you how to flex, pick a chain, yeah (Hop off a jet) Bad bitch out of Marquette (Woo) Took her out of school for the brain, yeah She came around with the set Nah, really ain't no savin' (Hop on the jet) Gotta keep her mind on deck Set, check, off X, Tech mix, stress less I live careless, status atlas I pulled up global, uh I get booked, don't write books since Barnes and Noble Top two total Owner next top two logos (Woo) Flex, yes, she text mess', right on my top ten See you frequent in a place I done been You come decent, then you leave lookin' bent Got wet, we can dip (Woo, woo) Fuck a cab, let's hop on a jet (Yeah, jet, hop off a jet) Let's hop on a jet ('Bout to hop off a motherfuckin' what? Hop on the jet) I put the glow on her wrists, I got that glow on my bitch I keep the drum on the TEC, hop out the Cullinan, baby Won't you tell me that you tried? Hop in a McLaren, please, let's just ride Hop in a McLaren, zoom Baby, tell me why you starin', zoom, yeah (Tell me why you starin') [Young Thug:] Packin' that Smith & Wesson when I crave (Wait) Hop in a big body Maybach and it's glazed (Woo) Tell me why the fuck do you slay? (Ooh) Why you killin' bitches with no grave? (Yeah, hop off a jet) I got a 'Vette, breakin' her neck (Yeah, woo, hop off a jet) Drum on the TEC, engraved headrest (Hop off a jet) Just watered my wrist, baguettes, woah, you know I'm a vet (Vet) Hop off the jet with an A and a K and a three-headed snake (Yeah, yeah, hop off a jet) All of the coupes exotic and I'm ducked off with your bae (Yeah, yeah), yeah I told you my niggas don't like you, you niggas get... (Yeah, yeah), yeah Had to tell these lil' niggas my wrist and my ankle a lake, yeah (Yeah, yeah) Had to tell 'em they bitch can come get on my shit and just stay, when I hop off the jet [Young Thug & Travis Scott:] Let's hop off a jet (Let's go, hop off a jet) When I hop off the jet (When I hop off the jet, hop off the jet) I put the glow on her wrists, I got that glow on my bitch I keep the drum on the TEC, hop out the Cullinan, baby Won't you tell me that you tried? Hop in a McLaren, please, let's just ride Hop in a McLaren, zoom Baby, tell me why you starin', zoom, yeah

Because people were shouting shit at him for trying to win.

Garuntee you if that wasnt Larry Lurr and his crew behind him along with fans, the crowd wouldnt have been as large and vocal as it was by the stage.

GregInTechnicolor no chance majority hates campers

@@GregInTechnicolor People were only cheering for Larry so hard because they hate captainawesum's playstyle.

@@GregInTechnicolor LMFAO dude watch any hbox match where he wins by camping, he gets the same reaction. people generally don't like campy playstyles.

That’s why you look him in his eye and show him... you can beat me in a game but you can’t beat my ass irl

This is not a "playstyle" this is how *everyone* plays this game. This is how it is played online and in tourneys. Honestly wtf do you expect??? This is a community of trolls, weebs, SJWs, pedophiles and overall degenerates. . I love the game, but *EVERYONE* hates the smash community. The only people who like the smash community are the people in it 🤣🤣🤣

@@megakazuya123 based. Don’t go to a greasy nerd convention and expect people to not act like greasy nerds. Would still like to beat the shit out of CaptainAwesum tho

@@megakazuya123 dude i dont think you know what the smash community is

@@megakazuya123 sounds like you have some personal problems you gotta work out

Definitely.

I hear a lot of people say that Dizz is a really nice guy. I haven't seen him play since wobbling got universally banned, but maybe we'll end up seeing him start to actually do cool stuff?

@@Sleeepy. Wow, he’s such a loser that he literally quit the game when they banned a blatant glitch/exploit that has no counter? That’s hilarious and extremely sad. That’s like going to a pokemon tournament with a Gameshark and then quitting Pokémon as a whole when they tell you you can’t use your hacked Pokémon.

@@Sleeepy. being a good guy has nothing to do with playing in a rat way

That ain’t skill, that’s spam

Max The Random Lepurchaun 3 for tethers

I hate camping because it's so morally unreqarding, I like winning when I earn it, which is why I like to be aggressive, also camping isn't nearly as fun as getting good combos and actually outplaying your opponent

Hellcat060 i agree. I genuinely dont get how people who camp are actually having fun with the game. Running away is just lame and boring for both players. 99% of players arent playing for a living so “win at all costs hurrr” doesn’t apply

@@legreatpenguino445 I agree 100% but for the same reasons I hate people who throw a temper tantrum when they lose to someone who camps. Just pull a n0ne and leave. Also I don't understand why the smash community hates the idea of character bans or ledgegrab/timeout/wobbling rules. If it's optimal to play Sonic in the most cancer way possible, then make Sonic mains play one of the other 85 characters. Top players _should_ play to win, but bearing in mind 99% of their revenue comes from casuals having fun and entering the tournament and advertisements because people enjoy watching the game.

@@Xrelent Because character bans directly target a section of the playerbase and cause a significant amount of their time investment to be utterly wasted. Also, people may not ever click with another character, and their results will suffer for that. I'm all for banning characters that warp the entire metagame around them to an unhealthy degree (Bayo), but you shouldn't ban stuff that is incredibly annoying just because it has an optimal playstyle you disagree with. Sonic is a very poorly designed character with a kit that discourages interaction, but he's not destroying the entire metagame of Ultimate.

Of all competitive Smash players, CptnAwesum is the gayest.

Not just all set, his entire career. The entire pro scene was waiting for the day cpr. awesum got out camped, and it finally came. Also probably why Larry popped of so hard, he’s usually way more chill when he wins sets.

Man if i were Larry, i shouldn't shake hands with that disgusting player.

@Aaron Roots What are you talking about? Bayonetta isn’t even in the video.

Volting Master I think the Bayo stuff got edited out because of one of the players involved doing some uh... not so pleasant things. Then again, we do hear ZeRo on commentary during the Tweek Sonix set so... I don’t know.

Oh! When I watched it there was definitely a bayonetta series of clips.

@@Nin10doh98 whats worse is that in that clip, ZeRo comes in right as they mention a child

no soul

Some people out there want to win no matter the cost

When you dangle a few thousand dollars over someones head and they're just trying to break even from Travel Expenses, it's quite tempting. I respect the hustle, but it's such a bore to watch.

Especially in smash where u can exploit & play lame as you want with not much restriction & oversights to the gameplay

embarrassed for winning ok w3irdo

That's why smash isn't a fighting game lol.

@@sunnyskies8412 and this is why modern fighting games suck :)

Guy Fauks the game doesnt suck the playstyle does

@@liamii5603 the game allows the playstyle

@@xolotltolox7626 But the player has that choice to do that specific playstyle

LOL I'm really happy he didn't lose that game

Fear

Good quotation around the word people cause im not sure whether people like him are able to be considered a person.

@@Tbro2303 exactly. Like the clip where he got salty despite his play style. Just absolute poor sportsmanship.

@@phantompop3192 You mean the one where he still shook the dudes hand? His expression wasnt even harsh, youre just repeating what you heard other people said and adding something to it thats just not true. How is that bad sportsmanship to look slightly agitated?

@@phantompop3192 absolute poor sportmanship is when people angrily leave or rage quit their matches, spiking controllers and ignoring the other players attempt for a handshake. Thats actual bad sportmanship. Captain awesome didnt seem like a bad sport at all

@@Skrumpilicious you’re talking about the handshake at 11:28? Yeah I’d argue it was still poor for him to be all sad and frowny for losing. It may not be very strong emotion like when people get very angry and say, throw their controllers or scream, but it can still be viewed as poor sportsmanship.

The most satisfying ending you can get

There was a money match between these two players where one was talking so much shit to the other guy, while the other guy didn’t say anything. Silent guy camped out the shit talker, and people cheered for that. That is the one time I liked camping.

Matches with a lot of camping are hype when the camper wins.

@@oneheckofabanana2016 shut

Dr. λ the Typer of Terms everyone hates campers. No one wants the camper to win. This includes Sonics and projectile spamming zoners.

You won that bet.

An ironic name

he's in my region and he still plays like that, though under a different name

9:55 "Tell em to bring me my money"

he plays some joker too. same exact way lol

CHEDDARRRRRRRRR

I readed "Even after all these years, I'll never FORGIVE."

Tru

That's why Ultimate online is dying

@Bobberypuff SSF2 sup bro It's a good thing Mario ain't included as a grimy playstyle character

I would've punched someone's teeth in for setting the bar so low for whats considered "competitive play"

@@bright.light.sights933 why?

That made me mad too, like Ice Climbers have so much potential and you use them for that 🗿

I was rooten for the othe guy, sadly he lost

If you were a PM player, they already did back then.

Damn right, thankfully G&W doesn't carry people up to the blastzone and instead just plays normal smash

It reminded me of Maister vs. Tyroy @ Combobreaker. That was such a satisfying match.

Was that a Dream and George quote?

@@YounesLayachi Ah yes. GnW Dsmash. Perfectly normal smash.

I mean, what was Sakurai fucking thinking? "Yeah so this game with a high level of defense... Lets make a character which we implemented the mechanic of combos"

@@El_Andru Not just combos but easy to perform 0 to death combos from basically anywhere on the stage. If you were good enough with Bayo D.I. wouldn't even help.

@@El_Andru literally any character does not match up against Bayonetta. She's the best character in the game. A smash noob can beat a pro player with her. Even after the nerf she's still broken.

At this point if you're still playing Smash 4 you either community agree to ban her or you just play her. It's like Metaknight in Brawl, now that the game's main season is over you can't complain unless it is to ban the character. You are willingly playing this game with an over-centralized top tier, if it's here it's here.

@@christopherhammond5142 Yeah thats what I mean. In Smash its nice to say "you can combo and chain stuff" But Bayo is "We made this character with chain attacks in mind"

Well it was the GnW's fault for not being patient

Fire Folf 'The Bayonetta God' dude just admit Smash 4 Bayo was busted and move on. Even as someone who mained her in 4, I admit she was OP. You don’t have to defend on every comment talking negatively about Sm4sh Bayo.

@@power0029 have you played a Bayonetta game?

Fire Folf 'The Bayonetta God' yes Ive played both of them

@@power0029 than tell me what the games are about and who bayonetta kills without googling it

Oof

Lmao

Oh come on! She shouldn't have been standing there!

@@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot yike

Stfu kid you probably don’t even play melee

Tbh I disagree a bit. I'd much rather see them get utterly comboed to death for the rest of the match

@@MrSherbertSnapper guys guys. You seem so chose sides when in reality, we all hate stupid campers. Lets celebrate that.

I share the sentiment for anti-camping, but the poetic justice against camping should not promote camping, that should leave a stronger message.

@@gonderage While probably true, I admit a certain satisfaction as a Dedede player when I steal the lead from a campy Sonic or Isabelle and then make them approach the rest of the game. And I play a VERY aggressive DDD (love my combos), but sometimes I liked to show the other player next to me that camping ain't fun to deal with if they started it first. :P

The thing is campers probably have the patience to get camped and not tilt

If I could have Critikal talking shit about campers during every match with a camper, then I’d gladly sit and play online against a laggy Sonic or Isabelle.

Critikal for moisture master smash comms

I cant stand his voice

Lol smash ultimate is shit bc of campy players like sonix. You see the luigi who won this weekend? Boring asf fight lol games trash. I remember having an amazing time watching critikals tourney streams funny that you hate this when it was one of the last good streams b4 pedos took the scene

Don't you mean Keemstar?

ahh i was wondering why the balloons exploded

@@maxono1465 Exploding balloon, bigger Lloid that multihit, and sapling that tripped you. Fun times, or something like that...

I agree customs were a cool idea but far from balanced.

It had counterplay, at least. G&W with distance bucket was hard for Villager to threaten.

Still better than Sonic smh smh

He looks and seems better alone, like it should be.

he gives me second hand embarrassment for playing sonic

Are there enough for that?

@@Rogueakeri31 there is sadly

@@stixsis4656 THOSE BASTARDS

Yeah, he's the fastest. You get camped on frame 1.

Tbf I don’t use Sonic like that. All of his moves are exceptional and can combo well if used correctly. He doesn’t have a lot of kill power but he is very easy to utilize.

@@UndeadItachi2 I disagree, he is a good character but if very hard to play because if you get aggresive then you are super predictable and you have so much end lag so you are super vulnerable, doing 100% camping with Sonic is toxic and stupid but you need to be defense to win because he has very little kill power and is easily punished.

You aren't.

I’m a villager main and I can’t believe people just be camping like that

@@MeleeFernando Fr I’ll respect a skilled villager main, not dudes like captain awesome🤢

@@akeel0821 I’m gonna have to take that awesome out of his name and replace it with clown

If I was in the audience I woulda slapped him out his chair for the other guy so he doesn't get ejected.

Did he really said that?

@@mr.gallegos2238 he did. it was a question on a lie detector test for smash summit i think.

And what was the lie detector results?

@@mr.gallegos2238 he was telling the truth of course

even us sonic mains want a new moveset

I love Sonic but he can be boring to even play cuz you can't approach

Even if there is a new Sonic character in Smash, it would be redundant because they would have almost identical moves. Tails wouldn’t work in smash unless he gets a completely different move set.

@@vvvaire Just play a new character then

@@Vher_ well no sonic is doing really good in tourneys rn

the reference is not appreciated enough...

Oh man he really looks like him doesnt he

Pick an ice climber. What sir? Pick one. Nana.

Mr. Miguel 16 He doesn't deserve that look after wobbling n0ne.

Hold still

You’re not the only person but I’m good with K.Rool so it’s a free counterpick unless in a different game

Derek Q As a Sonic main who hates campers who don't even try to engage with a passion, I feel you.

Thing is it doesn’t get them far. Especially Dedede

Shits funny as fuck

I hate it when Kirby players only suck and cuck. Especially when I'm a Kirby main myself, seeing them do only that the entire game pisses me off since he has an entire moveset but only they only focus on two moves. Inhale and Final Cutter.

Still feeling it in Ultimate, too

@@dvincentart2156 what

@@dvincentart2156 what

@@dvincentart2156 what

@@dvincentart2156 what

True

@Dimetime35c early and often

Pk fire

Pk fire

Pk Fire

yea that player was essentially making a mockery of the game. it's just an insult to everyone who were playing the game legit. surprise, that player isnt anywhere near as "good" in ultimate. they changed their name to interrobang and still play the same exact way.

I will say I actually have a lot of fun playing keepaway as Duck Hunt. It is engaging and rewarding to win. But I don't play that way with people online because I know that they wouldn't feel the same way about it. There is a big difference between camping and forcing the other player to approach.

1.- Get out of KZfaq 2.- Play Sonic in Smash Flash 2 3.- Come back and thank me

@@El_Andru kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZd5rKtp0q6vpac.html i stayed on youtube, looked up the game, i can play as waddle dee. fuck smash bros this is where I'm at lol. edit: but still no wavedash smh lol.

And yet slow characters like incineroar and ganondorf often have matches under 2 minutes thanks to their sheer power

Bruh smash players are pedophiles

@@kgnightcry8118 we *outed* the pedos lol, every community has weirdos but at least we got rid of them

@@AuroraVeil_ not all of them are god, the waluigi stans and the people who complains about having “anime sword fighters”

@@AuroraVeil_ most of them

What are you doing here? Lmao

Tbf that's an example of extreme shithead behavior and not an aggravating playstyle to go against

2020 and people are still toxic over Fortune

how you on this video but don't know who leffen is

@@ThePi314Man They have reason to be.

"look salty"? What are you even talking about dude? You and that moronic commenter both. He looked disappointed, not salty. If he was salty, he would have disrespected his opponent and refused to shake his hand like half the other people in this video.

@@ShoulderUnderwear You're salty too lol

No salt here fellas. Just stating facts. :)

@@ShoulderUnderwear "felles" smh

@@ShoulderUnderwear get out

He did, which is why he retired once he got banned.

Looked like he played "actual smash" pretty damn well to me. And I saw no "saltyness". He just looked disappointed like anybody might be after losing. He even shook his opponent's hand out of respect afterword. I wish all the players and viewers on the smash scene would have his level of class.

@@ShoulderUnderwear please shut up😩 captain trash can stay home while everybody else can go play smash.

^^^exhibit A^^^ “I wish all the players and viewers on the smash scene would have his (Captain Awesome’s) level of class”.

@@ShoulderUnderwear Dude plays like an asshole and loses the set. There is no class with that playstyle, same shit goes for someone like Hbox.

It's not much of a playstyle but more of a planned prank that went against rules.

That’s not a playstyle :/

The "contestants" knew exactly what they were doing.

Remember that was the LAST smash was ever at Evo and that's how it went out

They did think of it and had an orchestrated introduction to their set

Falco coulda done somethin..

@@johnnycrash4892 yeah

Westballz was being a salty emo, he deserved to get ledge camped. Dude could at least tried to contest

Contesting that spot is extremely hard and if you mess up just slightly you die. I don’t think wes was overplaying it all the much I think he really didn’t know what to do. (Also remember at the time beating a god was a big deal he was prolly already stressing over that

@@PoorStargazer he tries and succeeds? Marth loses a stock past 100%. He tries and fails? He dies at 20, and is now 1 stock to 3. See why he was scared?

I still don't know why Wes didn't just grab the fricking ledge..

@@neophyte_tpk Gonna guess it's because he didn't want to contest with a potential tipper hit..I dunno I agree with you though he definitely should've tried *something*

​@@neophyte_tpk wes would've lost stage control and run the risk of getting reverse edgeguarded cuz a falco offstage can quite often be a dead falco

michchamp 1900 not saying it’s easy but marth isn’t invincible on the ledge, even just the slightest bit of pressure would’ve forced m2k to do something.

@@MKWMICHCHAMP stage control really doesn't matter when the opponent _wants_ to be at ledge

Spike • good joke

@Skeet • fun to play. yes fun to play against. no balanced. NO!!

I didn't play sm4sh, what's the custom move on Villager here? Llod looks bigger than normal I think, but idk Edit: Wait actually I think I've heard of this. This is the tripping sapling, right?

And the explosive balloons

@@Sleeepy. The explosive balloons

The fact his play style is a way to win tho is sad to me

His GnW sucked tbh

@@FurryBayo Not really

@@synthesiageek4667 trust me it did.

@@FurryBayo Dingus joe was impatient and didnt sdi properly, he played without control but didnt really suck, at least imo

in the end is a way to victory, its really lame and boring but he is trying to win, i really hate that playstyle and only thinking of it makes me sick but its more fault of the desing of the character rather than the players using the tools at their dispossal. its like trying to fight against little mac, its better to camp him rather than fighting because is the easiest way to victory. i think they should change sonic so it doesnt promote this kind of playstyle. (same for little mac)

How little dignity does somebody have to have to go out and play like this in front of other people in a tourney. It’s actually embarrassing

It's lame but people play to win.

@@ryanfield4926 they are there for the bag, not to please you

Contrary to ledge regrabbing you can at least get Lucky and catch Sonic That's mostly smash ultimate online being shit also

I just want to mention the last part about not grabbing ledge after the 6th regrab is untrue. You can always regrab the ledge, but you will lose invincibility after the first few times, as you said.

Ultimate as well

I think you got that last part from ultimate because it has that

that's pretty cool, I think ult probably did it best, you get one grab with invuln, and the 6th time you try to grab ledge you can't, makes the ledge a terrible spot

Sirstack The 2nd as it should be the ledge should be a bad spot to be in realistically your literally right next to the blast zone if you’re high enough any hit could kill it should be a scary place to be

Westballz should have won despite the percent difference. That match is all the evidence we need for a ledge grab limit.

@@brainfreeze10 I agree (and I think the community should just run modded Melee with a limit built in). But you gotta lay some of the blame at Westballz feet. Unless he figured M2K was more likely to SD than he was likely to win an exchange by approaching ledge, he shouldn't have stalled. I know it's almost impossie to approach M2K on the ledge, but it's better than timing yourself out.

@Atinverd you will just lose if youre behind on percent

@@brainfreeze10 nah, tbh marth's ledge camp is really trash. Falco can sneak in a ledge grab, down smash, etc. The risk is decently high, but it also only takes one win to kill marth on the edge.

Robert Cassidy west Ballz could have challenged mew2kings ledge reset, yeah it would’ve been risky cause it’s mew2king a highly technical player, but you still have options. I think it’s west’s fault for not even daring to challenge him. That’s exactly what mew was looking for and it worked

Wobbling isn't legal anymore

Well it is competitive, not just for fun

And good for them

@@HamsterCrusher13 mango is comp and he's still lit

@@guyfauks2576 I worded it as "not JUST for fun" intentionally. Competition goes beyond fun. You'll go through a whole spectrum of emotions competing.

@@HamsterCrusher13 but the main one is fun and wobbling is not fun and is very gay

I agree, imagine not wanting to have fun playing a video game

Ryan Keenan i know its a tournament but regardless. Have some backbone, have some respect

money

Have you ever played anything competitively? I'm not saying because you would do it, but you'd know a lot of people who would. Competition and fun don't have a big overlap, and that's okay.

@Roger Dodger If you're in the lead and there's a timer, you can win by stalling. I don't know how this isn't understood.

This Aged Well!

You might wanna delete your comment about Bayo Pal.

How could he not?

What it kills a scene is if main scene is not safe, putting at risk to horrible people

How can u expect any WiFi set having great gameplay? WiFi just sucks and there’s no way I’ll take any set seriously

Yeah, I'm surprised GRsmash didn't show that match here. It painted a negative picture of melee players who were on the edge about smash 4 back then.

Link?

Morgan Fitzgerald here you go kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNt2n5Cckq25fJ8.html

I do remember when he ran away after being caught grooming children, if that counts.

Patrick Bateman too soon vro, too soon.