Ohhhh, THAT'S how you get the gold tooth in mega monkey mode!! I'm still stuck on that puzzle and it's been YEARS

Part 2. Part 2. Part 2.

So the Discworld puzzle had you dousing an octopus with a love potion and laying it as a trap for some guy's bottom? Doesn't that mean that this puzzle requires the weaponization of tentacle hentai to solve?

Gabriel Knight 3's infamous cat hair puzzle. It gives me the shivers.

In Discworld there are Quantum Weather Butterflies which, yes, is a parody of the butterfly effect of chaos theory. The male uses weather creation to find a mate.

It was nice of Mordack to warn you about that snake

The Infamous Goat Puzzle from Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars. It's so (in)famous that it has its own Wikipedia Page.

Love potion and octopus? I’ve seen enough Hentai to know where this is going...

I think my favorite puzzle, which happens to be pretty ridiculous, is from Sam and Max: Hit the Road. At one point you have to find a way to stop the "Tunnel of Love" ride so Sam and Max can step off the swan gondola and walk around. You do so by dipping Sam (the homicidal bunny) into the water and using him on the fuse box to short the ride. And Sam kinda just shrugs it off

I don't really play many games that involve moon logic puzzles. The closest things would be I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream's sometimes very difficult puzzles, easily missable items, or little screwy programming things (like an item won't show up unless you check something / talk to someone first) though they at least generally rely on internal logic, as well as a few odd, but not really difficult puzzles like one in one of the Last Door games were you have to replace a red safelight in a dark room with an ordinary light bulb you cover in deer's blood.

How about that one puzzle from The Longest Journey, with the rubber duck. It's like the first real puzzle in the game and it's one of the most baffling things I've ever seen. Also I totally remember getting completely stymied by that gold tooth puzzle in hard mode Curse of Monkey Island. That solution is insane and probably physically impossible..

That Dagger of Amon Ra puzzle is exactly the one that made me put that game down! Now maybe I should go back for it....

Rubber ducky puzzle from The Longest Journey!!

Have you played "Scooby-Doo Mystery"? Recently I revisited it and it was very nostalgic xD There are two mysteries to pick from - Blake's Hotel, where you investigate a ghost in Shaggy's uncle's hotel in a Native American resort. And there's the Ha Ha Carnival, where you investigate a mysterious evil clown, sabotaging rides in the carnival. There are a lot of instances of moon logic xD

You have no idea how excited I was to hear you say that Curse of Monkey Island was your favorite in the series. Me, too! And sometimes I could swear I'm the only one who feels that way. A lot of people really dislike it which always makes me sad because I think it's fantastic. I love the art style, the voice acting, and I feel like the difficulty level is really even and fair. Some bits in the first too felt a little too hard to me, but the majority of Curse is at a good level that is challenging enough to make you think, but not brutally insane, so it's completely playable even by casual gamers who aren't used to the insanity of adventure games. That said, I've never actually played the hard mode. I should, but I have the entirety of normal mode memorized, so I'm scared to try out hard mode because I'm worried about what kinds of twists it's going to throw at me in a game I know so well. This video just made me more scared of it because you just showed me that it adds ridiculous steps to a puzzle I already know the solution to. Oh god NO.

Simon the Sorcerer had several terribly ridiculous puzzles too (Have you playing those, Roses? Are you going to review them?), such as using a magnet to pick up gold (Even Simon says it shouldn't work), "acquiring" a pair of slippers to sneak past a monster and dealing with the demons guarding the treasury. Sheesh. Then there's "Touche" which requires you to pixel hunt for a piece of chalk at the climax of the game. Ah, adventure games...

Every time someone brings up Monkey Island 2 monkey wrench puzzle, I wonder why THAT was the puzzle people found so difficult. Because ultimately you see a waterfall you need to block and on top is a pump. You just use everything in your inventory on it. But how in the hell were you supposed to know to put Kates pamphlet over top of your wanted poster on another island which will get her arrested which allows you to take the near grog you didn't even know you need because the game made it seem more like you were using the wrong color grog in the drinking contest, not the wrong drink that NOBODY in the game even had continuing dialogue to hint at being attainable after the first conversations between the bar owner and kate.

Ah Grim Fandango, one of my all time favourite games, I love revisiting that game at least once a year. It really feels like that I'm a part of that world when I play it, and the art style is beautiful, it is a beautiful game, it's art, that's the way I look at it, it's interactive art.

I have to admit that monkey island 3 is my favourite too. The presentation is just top notch, everything meaning graphics, sound, music and voice actors. Just pure quality.

Damn, if only I'd known about the bedroom cupboard rather than the bottom of the lake, I'd be in a whole world of less trouble... Awesomez video as usual.

Why won't these games just let us love them?

I will never forget Ross nailing the Yeti pie event first try.

I expected Grim Fandango was a favorite with the Manny necklace and Dia De Los Meurtos stuff in the background , in another video, but I didn't know it was THE favorite. I'm so glad it got the remaster.

Grim Fandango is a great game, but I had to cheat on like the entire game. The puzzles were hard

I have a suggestion from Broken Age. You're stuck inside a ship and the only way to get out is to talk to the mother of the boy character you can switch to with the female character. The mother has locked herself behind a door and will not come out until you prove that you are her son. First to lower your voice you have to go through a series of broken teleporters that make your head bigger and your voice lower. THEN she asks you the name of the boy's favorite stuffed animal, which you can ONLY GET by switching to him and being attacked by a snake which he refers to as "Mr.Huggy". THEN she asks you about the boy's first pair of shoes, and you have to SIFT THROUGH OLD PHOTOS, LETTERS, AND DRAWINGS TO FIND OUT WHAT COLOR, SIZE, AND PATTERN THEY WERE. I loved the game don't get me wrong, BUT THIS WAS SOME CRAZY MOON LOGIC!

Octopus + love potion + latrine = Rule 34? Fair enough. Octopus + love potion + latrine = belt buckle retriever? ...wait, what were they smoking when they came up with this shit?

"he's also dense as a fucking pound cake." LOL, totally lost it at this line.

Loved the video! As for suggestions, how about the entire Leisure Suit Larry 2? Probably one of the worst adventures by Sierra. In the second "chapter" of the game, Larry's cruise sinks in the middle of the ocean, and you need a number of items that you could only find during the first chapter to survive, including a super large glass of soda to avoid dehydration or a blonde wig to avoid a heat stroke. Of course, you'd have to find these objects BEFORE you even knew you'd going to be involved in a shipwreck. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, the rest of the game is like that.

(pulls the glowing green gem from his mouth) I have a feeling there is a lot of potential in this series.

In a Runaway: A Road Adventure.There's an object you need in some muck filled trough.Up to this point everything has been mostly logical and mostly combining items.So you think what do I have to combine or use to pull this object out of this gross dirt or whatever?but no you have to go to the roof and throw a wrench off into the trough so that it flips and throws the item you need out.I love that game but oooo boy that puzzle....

That Curse of Monkey Island gumball puzzle killee my mega monkey progress as a child 😂 Even when I replayed this year I couldn’t figure it out and eventually just looked it up 😂

As bad as the KQ 5 Snake puzzle is, at least you don't have to throw a saddle on it to get magical sugar cubes that will allow you to infiltrate Dracula's castle. And let's not even mention the dreaded Ifnkovhgroghprm

I'm shocked the infamous Gabriel Knight 3 cat hair mustache puzzle wasn't included.

King's Quest 4. Getting the talisman from Lolotte. My dad pixel hunted trying to steal the talisman for two weeks when i got the idea to try befriending Lolotte by shooting her with Cupid's Arrow.

3:00 Oh Roses, jokes like that are One in ten. One in ten. One in teeeeeeeen.

The Curse of Monkey Island didn't stump me much, it was mostly very logical, but there were a couple of points that seemed strange. It took me ages to figure out I had to choose the banjo, for example.

I have to nominate the "correct" answer to the gnome's name in Kings Quest I (AGI), I'm not sure how many people would have figured it out back in 1984, but in the SCI/AGS version changed it to the more obvious one, along with a visual clue (the spinning wheel) to those who know their fairy tales.

That bubble-gum ballon to carry the tooth is both insane and hilariously brilliant. "Wayne's World" looks especially painful; that franchise does not have a good record for being adapted into games. A writer who can only write with cigarettes? Bah, doesn't he know you need copious amounts of liquor to properly write! I always thought the Shakespeare puzzles on the hardest difficulty in Silent Hill 3 bordered on Moon Logic.

Even after playing it several times, I always trip with getting the future Edisons out of the containment room in Day of the Tentacle. Skunk cat? What is this, Looney Tunes?

I adore this. I really hope a part 2, 3, and more are to follow. I could watch these all day!

The KQ5 snake puzzle makes sense though! Snakes move away from loud sounds and vibrations. They could get scared and strike too but either would make sense.

The final puzzle in "Simon the Sorcerer 3D" was to fiddle with a evil computer. I'm not sure if you were supposed to get data on or off there, either way there weren't any buttons. You had to literally push the CD-Rom-Drive button on your own computer. I'm to this day unsure whether this is genius or mental. %-) (Or how to solve it on today's driveless PCs...)

"I'd rather leave than suffer this" lol nice quote

I will never complain about the ridiculousness of Nancy Drew Puzzles ever again

Geeze, I had no idea they made so many adventure games! I knew of the more famous ones, but WOW...Wayne's World? (And I'm not making fun: I totally would have played that, back in the day). Totally not surprised by the Discworld one, though. By it's existence or it's apparently ridiculous puzzles. I've only read a few books in the series and I can immediately nod my head and say: "Yup, that will make for a HARD adventure game."

I am so glad Discworld made it to the list, so much trial and error to get through that game.

Before I watch this video I want to say congrats at 54k subs and also HUGE congrats on your DYK Gaming video! I was psyched to see you on there... that was awesome!

That Monkey Island one really stumped me. I can't remember for sure, but I may have had to resort to a walkthrough to get past it.

Although it's been a while since I've played it, I seem to recall recuiting Edward Van Helgen and obtaining the Sea Cucumber required some questionable leaps of logic in Curse of Monkey Island as well as alot of the puzzles on Blood Island in the second part of the game

I've had a few of my friends blindly play through The Dig and Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis (Team path), with the added rule that if they get stumped, they can buy a hint by taking a shot of some vile alcoholic drink. Our most memorable "take a drink" moment was when The Dig wouldn't let Low into the Creator's tomb without him having seen the opening mechanism in the Map spire and knowing to step on the pedestal. I'll give an honorable mention to the elephant nose puzzle in Atlantis, which the guys pretty much solved by accident. Other instances of weird adventure game logic I can think of here: using an iceberg lettuce to cool down a hot spring in King's Quest I-forget-which; pretty much all of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, especially the ending sequence; the dagger in KQ1 hidden under a rock - that will crush you if you stand in the wrong position; the beggar giving you an apple in Larry 1 that you use to win Eve over; come to think of it, most puzzles in a bunch of Larry games...

Great video! I hope to see this develop into a series. Keep up the amazing work PUR! ^.^

In 4:47, "Brad Mogilefsky" is credited as designer for Grim Fandango. It's "Bret", and I believe his main contribution was programming the engine.

Three examples: - Using the ID card to open an old lock in Beneath a Steel Sky. Made harder by the fact that if you examin it Foster tells you it NEEDS a KEY. (also there's a key you can't get) - Climbing the bookshelves in Prisoner of Ice. You climb first two levels by activating hidden mechanisms, then, on the third level, you find drawing of some winch mechanism. Guess what? It's a red herring, what you have to do is walk off the screen after which Ryan (the main character) tells you that there's a ladder. - Another one from Prisoner of Ice. It's not really a puzzle and it's easy to figure out by trial and error (since by this point the only items in you inventory are a sword and the Necronomicon) but at the very end of the game you confront the bad guys in the middle of some ritual and you have to hold the sword up three times (apparently this protects you from spells) and then throw Necronomicon. I have no idea how that disrupts the ritual since in Cthulhu mythos the Necronomicon doesn't have any powers, just contains forbidden knowledge. Also I never played it but I heard that all puzzles in Nord and Bert Couldn't Make Head or Tail of It are based on puns.

How about some of the cryptic Pokemon battles/evolution methods? Gen IV: Battle Spiritomb: Obtain an odd Keystone and put it in a shrine on Route 209, then talk to *32 different players* in Sinnoh Underground (you can do this with just two games, but you have to exit and re-enter the underground each time you want to add to the counter), then check the shrine again. Evolve Eevee into Leafeon: Level up Eevee in the vicinity of the moss-covered rock in Eterna Forest Evolve Eevee into Glaceon: Level up Eevee in the vicinity of the ice-covered rock on Route 217. Evolve Mantyke into Mantine: Level up Mantyke at any time while there is a Remoraid in your party. This will not work if Remoraid evolves into Octillery before Mantyke levels up. You will still keep the Remoraid after the evolution. Evolve Nosepass into Probopass: Level up Nosepass when at any part of Mt.Coronet other than Spear Pillar. Battle Regigigas: Transfer from R/S/E/FR/LG or trade with D/P/Pt/HG/SS to get all three Legendary Golems and move them into your party, then go to the bottom floor of Snowpoint Temple and talk to Regigigas. Regigigas will not activate unless all three Golems are in your party. (in D/P it is Level 70. In Pt, it is Level 1, making it the joint-lowest-level Legendary Pokemon legitimately catchable in the wild in the entire series. Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Manaphy and Phione are the only ones obtainable as an egg) Evolve Happiny into Chansey: While holding the Oval Stone, get Happiny to maximum happiness and level up *during the daytime only*. Evolve Kirlia into Gallade: Use a Shiny Stone, but it will only work if Kirlia is male. Gen V: Battle Zoroark: Go to the Illusion forest while you have one of the Movie 13 Shiny Legendary Beasts (you just need one of the three - Entei, Raikou or Suicune) in your party, and talk to the female NPC in the truck. Obtain Zorua: Talk to a boy in the ground floor of the Castelia City GAME FREAK building with a winter 2011/Movie 13 Celebi in your party.

Nice idea! There's alot of those, especially in older adventure games

Really needs a part 2

I used to watch my brother play the curse of monkey island on PC. I always enjoyed listening to the music and watching him workout the wacky puzzles or writing down the correct responses for the sword fighting insults

The puzzle that I associate with most is from a little talked about game called Companions of Xanth, based on the Piers Anthony Xanth novels. One of the first puzzles is trying to figure out how to open a door that is ajar. To open it you use a particular item from your inventory on the door. The item is a jar. I rest my case.

"Monkey Wrench puzzle? I'd rather leave than suffer this." I see what you did there. : D

I love this idea for a series! Nicely done!

alone in the dark 2&3 seemed to be full of these. I remember the developer of alone in the dark 2 saying that the locked door puzzle you get when you fall into the cellar of the mansion prompted quite a few calls to the hint line.

The end puzzle in Phantasmagoria 2!

Love your videos. The one game I played that came close to this was Solid Snake where the answer to a question in the game was a random piece of cover art on the box the game disk came in.

Please do make a Part 2! And include the 'hush puppies' puzzle from Simon the Sorcerer 2!

HEY. I have been on KZfaq fore maybe five or six years. In that time have subscribed to maybe two or three channels, In five years rarely have I had the chance to subscribe to someone I truly believe in. You are completely amazing. Please keep making videos because I have barely subscribed to anyone and I am already tired of watching them over and over. Keep up the good work and thank you! Pushing up Roses is good stuff.

Oh man, so many crazy and weird puzzles out there in those point and click adventures. Whenever I'd figure out one of the solutions to one of these I'd always roll my eyes. I mean really, why make it so ridiculous?

I hate it when the puzzles are just off the deep end like some of these. Thanks for sharing!

If you ever do make another video in this series, you HAVE to put at least one of the puzzles from the Gobliiins games on here. Those games are practically powered by moon logic!

Been wanting a video like this for ages, and of course King's Quest V is first!

great idea for a series. might i suggest covering stuff like "looking at the cheese" in the example of the cheese puzzle, just to make sure there is no weird hint on that? I mean it probably isn't but that would erase that possibility

To this day, I call the owl Mordak the Owl. 😅

Have you played the Simon the Sorcerer Games? The Discworld game (which I haven't played) reminded me of them. Brilliant adventuring!

I would love to see you play all of these

Old school RuneScape is absolutely chock full of moon logic.

Five Nights at Freddy's 3 (a time management horror game from 2015) had one puzzle where you get a string of numbers from a minigame and know that you have to do... _something_ with it on the next night. The solution turns out to be (obviously) punching the numbers into _bricks in the wall_ as though they were a phone keypad.

For me, it was Ace Ventura puzzle, where you had to match lines in computer (Also, Totem one, if you didn't have box, just like in MGS, where you had to figure Meryl codec numer)

So I once played this Titanic Hidden mysteries game for the DS and there was one puzzle that had me stumped for the longest time. Basically you must 1. Use a pair of tweezers to open a box, inside the box is only a tube of lipstick, not really sure why that needed to be locked away but whatever. 2. Go into the ships cafe and pick up the salt shaker 3. You go to the ships gallery where you find eggs boiling, you must play a hidden objects game and find a spoon 4. Salt the boiling eggs and remove one with a spoon. 5. Go to one of the staterooms 6. You'll find a bronze eagle in this room. You can click on one of its legs to raise it but it will put it back down if you click again so you must put the lipstick in the raised leg and that somehow makes you able to take the eagle. 7. There is a random nest above the door to the room with a branch sticking out of it, place the eagle on the branch, then you put the egg in the nest In the end it sort of makes sense in a weird way that you would need to put the eagle there and put an object into the nest. But the lipstick bit was totally random, like i suppose the eagles claw had a mechanism where it needed to hold something before you could remove the other foot but its still kinda werid and I don't remember being given very many cues that our objective was to fill the nest anyway. The character didn't even mean to unlock a passage, she jsut wanted to see the nest 'complete'. If it hadn't done something I can only imagine the unpleasantness of that egg being left in that nest for a while.

There's this part in The Dark Eye: Chains of Satinav where you need to pass by an orc ritual site. There's an orc priest chanting his rites and another dude playing the drums, preventing you from passing by. The solution is to use a skull and put it under a stalagtite that is slowly letting water drops fall. Here's how it works: The water drops from the stalactite make a hollow drumming sound when they hit the skull, which distracts the drum guy and makes him lose the beat, which in turn makes the orc priest turn around and start lecturing him. With both orcs distracted, you can sneak by. It's not that big of a puzzle, as it only involves using an item with a certain part of the scenery, no extra steps needed. But I'll be damned if I could have figured it out on my own before entering the "use everything with everything" phase. There's a pretty big leap of logic in assuming the effects placing the skull there would have.

I really enjoy your videos Roses. I rarely played pc games as a kid, and your videos are a great way to see what I missed.

Probably mentioned in a later (or earlier) video, but... to me... King's Quest I, the note in the house saying "Sometimes it's best to think backwards" leaping to spelling Rumplestiltskin with a backwards alphabet will always take the cake. Even the remake where you just had to spell Rumplestiltskin backwards isn't, in my mind, any easier. It was nice that if you didn't figure that out (and really, who could?) you could still complete the game. It was just a bit harder.

Hey Roses, have you played the Edna & Harvey games? (If not, it's two German adventure game with a great story and a dark sense of humor. And some of the puzzles enter moon logic territory.) One of the puzzles has you prepare a pizza so the four people how want it are all happy with all the toppings (which is hard enough in real life). I don't want to spoil the puzzle here but you might want to look at that game. Great video btw.

7:36 Wait a second. Capstone? Capstone. Capstone! _The Pinnacle of Entertainment Software_

Speaking of Monkey Island, you hear the Monkees are coming out with a new album? Well, Micky and Peter.

Moon logic on ADHD brain: why wouldn’t I throw a pie to defend myself?

This has always confused me in that king's quest V snake part (I think it's a type of rattlesnake too). Wouldn't the snake be venomous not poisonous? I hope Graham would not try to eat it after being told it is poisonous and if the snake did bite him, it shouldn't kill him because it's not venomous so... A bit of an oversight with that one lol

The Longest Journey: Getting a random key off of the train tracks with a contraption built using a rubber duck, and all of the crap you have to go through to get the components.

You could include something from Curse of Enchantia. The whole game is and entire big pile of ridiculousness... I still love it though.

also curse of monkey island

The goat in Broken Sword is a no brainer. I also vagualy remember a bit about a black cat, scotch tape and fake moustaches in Gabriel Knight 3.

"Any scientific way for this to work" when talking about magic. That's definitely one I have NOT heard before O_o

I still think the most confusing puzzle in Grim Fandango is the one where you have to get around accidentally setting off a chain of dominos placed next to a tripwire bomb by.... having a dude recklessly vomit all over them, then freeze the vomit with liquid nitrogen. Which somehow does not trigger *any* of the dominos to fall over.

I remember being frustrated by some of the puzzles in Another World. Maniac Mansion was the craziest game I tried to play in my youth. I still haven't beaten the game.

This brought back menories! 😀 Good stuff! What about the ”cat puzzle” from Gabriel Knight 3? 😀

I totally agree with you, its my absolute favoritest game of all time!

The Curse of Monkey Island: "Blondebeard" was voiced by Terry McGovern ("Launchpad McQuack"); the barber (whose name I forget) was voiced by Alan Young ("Scrooge McDuck"). =)

Yes for a part 2!

The independent adventure game claim man has many puzzles like that. For example, you have to open a safe but there's no rhyme or reason that how the numbers are picked, so I had to go to walk-through just to figure out how to open the safe. Also in the game of the same name. I have to diagram how mayonnaise is being distributed. This is a great game. The puzzles are pretty easy, except for those two, but they made absolutely no sense. I reviewed this game on steam and Facebook. I would love to see what your review of it would be. Keep up the great work. Your videos make me laugh.

For three whole seconds I was excited to discover there was a Dark Half game.

Spiny Norman? Well that makes my day - Spiny Norman is a reference to a Monty Python sketch of the same name. Well, technically it's Ethel the Frog OR Piranha Brothers, buuuuut Norman is the most memorable, uh, 'character'.

Although an amazing game, the rubber duck puzzle from The Longest Journey is pretty silly. And difficult.