Most Unique Crate! Composite VS Aluminum - Hartzell Prop Installed! Build VLOG 14

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The most unique Crate for the Van’s Aircraft has arrived!
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In this “Airplane Build Vlog” episode of Flight Chops: We hang the prop!
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Thanks to Kristin for filling us in on all the prop details.
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And regarding the “Specialized Propeller Group” - Here’s what Kris had to say about that:
Hartzell is working on re-designing and launching the portion of our website specifically for the Specialized Propeller Group and hopes to have this soon, in the meantime questions can be sent to Scott, Mike and Kris via the link below.
hartzellprop.com/experimental...
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@Juli_Julson 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chops, i'm not a aviation-guy, but seeing you building airplains, flying warbirds, share your aviation-life with the whole world... It's a lot of fun. Thank you very much. Greets from Switzerland.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for letting me know this stuff resonates even if you're not in the niche exactly. I can't wait to get to Switzerland when things settle down - we were meant to go last year.

@aserta 3 жыл бұрын

Lycoming should make a RED colored and obviously engine motion stopping bracket that fits on the flywheel to prevent motion until the engine is ready to move. Something like a rod or a gear engagement bracket. That way the technicians can work on the engine and no fear moving it too much.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea

@LTVoyager 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Then someone would forget to remove it and fry their starter... 😁

@stephenp1717 3 жыл бұрын

Some Diesel engines use a pin that goes into the flywheel to stop the engine from moving so you can set the valves .

@bbgun061 3 жыл бұрын

@@LTVoyager one could also disconnect the battery/starter until the lock is removed...

@ninjaz5736 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah building it with a dummy plug or something to stop the battery being connected could be an interesting idiot-proof idea, however I'd imagine a big red warning on the front of the manual or on a sticker on the ends of the battery cables would probably suffice for anyone that's actually capable of assembling a plane in this manner

@flutetubamorg 3 жыл бұрын

Guy unpacking the prop cracked me up: "Oh it's got 3 blades!" acting like he's all surprised :)

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Haha - I think it was actually that Perry was surprised by how short the blades are... Dave then reviewed that it has 3 blades, and thus they can be shorter.

@peteranderson037 3 жыл бұрын

Experimental vs. Certified 30 years ago: Certified: Engineered with the latest in technology and aeronautical engineering methodology to maximize reliability and safety. Experimental: A sketchy design from some random guy with dubious qualifications. If the wings don't straight up fall off, the plane will have "exciting" handling characteristics. Experimental vs. Certified now: Certified: Either prohibitively expensive or a 40+ year old beater that will require constant expensive maintenance to keep it in the air. Experimental: Just as well engineered as Certified but without the expensive paperwork. You can perform whatever maintenance you feel comfortable doing in order to cut down on operating costs.

@e-rj8984 3 жыл бұрын

Congratulation with Your choice of Propeller! Hartzell has proved their quality for years now... (I have a lot of experince from Twin Otter and Hartzell propellers in veeery harsh conditions here in far north of Norway 👍)

@danielmoss2394 3 жыл бұрын

"Mad Props" to you and your team..... I couldn't resist....

@Thunderbird-dq8ws 3 жыл бұрын

Slow clap

@Mrsournotes 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Connor_Herman 3 жыл бұрын

Always love to see the Dayton, OH area highlighted. Such an aviation stronghold (and my hometown). Thanks for the video, I've never seen footage from anyone talking to Hartzell before.

@Timbo428CJ 3 жыл бұрын

That's pretty awesome that Hartsell came on board with you. It looks purdy ! 👍👍👍

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍 - yeah - it is pretty surreal that we're this close to having it flying now. Glad to see you sticking around as a 5+ year subscriber Tim!

@MaShcode 3 жыл бұрын

Hands down the coolest propeller I’ve ever seen.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we were pretty impressed with it. Can't wait to fly behind it!

@glennllewellyn7369 3 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@goatflieg 3 жыл бұрын

I found it interesting that they recommended dynamic balancing. I've always heard that makes an improvement in smoothness. But we had a well-known local prop shop give a presentation for EAA Chapter 194 at PTK and he said they don't do dynamic balancing. Can't remember all the details (I should check my notes) but I was given the impression that it can become somewhat of a chasing-your-own-tail scenario. Tip I received on final prop installation: feed your safety wire BEFORE you torque the bolts. It may be to difficult to do afterward depending on the clocking of the roll pins and clearances. Thanks for the Harvard low pass and take off... just what my spirit needed. P.S. Got my engine back to Barrett last Thursday; ball's in their court...

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Good insights! And glad you're making progress to get beyond that crankshaft set back!

@goatflieg 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Potential for progress soon. Hope you don't mind this update-via-comments stuff... just seems efficient. ;)

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

For sure - this is a great way to do it

@bryan.meijer 3 жыл бұрын

Nice, I never knew how much goes behind props, can't wait for the ground run!

@iansmith1368 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve! Watching your RV come together over the past year was exciting to say the least and It broke up the boredom of quarantine. Been flying the sim in the extra 300 trying some of the aerobatics out and just flew a leg without GPS like your most recent video in the Cherokee 6. We take technology for granted and It's good to brush up on the basics! Hope you make it to EAA this year with the RV! Fly safe and keep the videos coming my friend!

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Cool - and yes - the plan is to get this airplane to AirVenture!

@sailingeric 3 жыл бұрын

Props to you on your build

@zemariagp 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a legitimate, real-world use of the expression “these nuts”

@tonyfdesign 3 жыл бұрын

Funny to see you all geek out over the new spinner! It is awesome!

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

It really is! And I love that you're binging the build vlogs :) But I'm gonna hit the sack now - been a long day - have a good one Tony.

@AlexFeldstein 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@glennllewellyn7369 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing as you are going with blue and yellow for the engine, I think beige for the spinner would be just fine!

@ProfSimonHolland 3 жыл бұрын

very exciting part of your build

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir! and as if on cue, the C of R paperwork came through today! So we're not going to be held up by that end of things!

@v3nomou545 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet prop

@Eagle44 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah !!! 🇺🇸🏁😎

@thorstenwanoth6774 3 жыл бұрын

Cool to see some Harvards in the opening and closing scenes

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's the one we're lucky to have in the fleet at the museum. Full playlist covering my training (to solo) in it here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLJOPFT88qcBD4J3cF7_ai0Xyh4FrGSMzY

@donjohnston3776 3 жыл бұрын

My father and I bought a Hartzell Top-Prop from Kristin Bendickson 30 years ago

@TheAdamGore 3 жыл бұрын

Dude your gonna be flying upside down in that RV-14 in no time !

@blake.crosby 3 жыл бұрын

Are maintenance and overhaul limits different on a composite vs. aluminum prop? Or are they the same overhaul requirements?

@JoshSinclair 3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing the -14 at OSH!

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

That's the goal! (I'll be there regardless :)

@nathanmusson 3 жыл бұрын

Hang on... wait !! @2:57 "CANOPY JETTISON" ?? Didn't know the RV was going Eject-O-Seat-O. BRS release maybe?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

It's not so fancy :P. Tip up (not sliding) canopy RVs have had this option for a while as far as I know - it simply pulls the pin from the hinge so that the airflow can get under the front of the canopy and take it off.

@AlexFeldstein 3 жыл бұрын

Missed you at Sun-N-Fun Steve. Was great as always

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Next time!

@AlexFeldstein 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Starting to process the myriad pics (I am a still photographer). Came back with over 7,000 shots. After culling I have many workable ones. The Blue Angels debuted their new Super Hornets (first time ever in an airshow).

@LtKernelPanic 3 жыл бұрын

The landing gear of course.

@KI4HOK 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have to take the prop off to change the alternator belt on the front of the engine?

@thehoeser 3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@Bergstaller01 3 жыл бұрын

Experimental also means whatever you can afford, get the best in your price range.

@kentmckean6795 3 жыл бұрын

Are you running two MAGs or one MAG and one SureFly electronic ignition (or other)?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

We'll cover a bunch of configuration specific details in an upcoming episode

@Jibbs_actual Жыл бұрын

@FlightChops Just following up on this prop as I am in the middl of the same search. Just spoke with Vans 5 mins ago regarding the confusion on the 72 vs 74. Of course they 74 is not recommended for the TD's due to clearance, however they assure me many people still run them. The 2 bladed 72's are still available though Hartzell, but have not been vibrationally tested by Vans, therefore they won't sell them for the TD's, yet. And with the 15 in process they have no near future plans to do such testing on the 2 bladed 72's. So I am assuming you went with the 74" on your 14? Or is it the 69" they have listed on Hartzells website but not Vans. So much confusion and missing information on these comp props for RV's!!

@FlightChops Жыл бұрын

I've got the 74" as far as I know... I can look back at the paperwork if you send me a reminder email. I can report back that after ~150 operational hours (and well over 100 landings), it has been great.

@Jibbs_actual Жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Appreciate the feedback! Thats great to hear!! Im trying to decide on a Composite C/S prop to go with for my 7, but Hartzell/Vans dont suggest the 74 due to the 2" clearance difference. But obviously its not a big deal, just have to be more aware/careful with nose attitude.

@FlightChops Жыл бұрын

@@Jibbs_actual The RV-14 is definitely a bigger aircraft and I'm pretty sure it sits taller than a 7. You might find the 72" works well for an RV-7...

@Jibbs_actual Жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Absolutely. The 72" is definitely the recommended size, however they (Vans) told me directly today that they have sold plenty of 74's to 7 owners. Interesting!! Anyway, appreciate your time! Love the channel!

@jasonclappison9678 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, firstly - AWESOME AIRCRAFT!! I noticed a few comments on the diameter of the Raptor Explorer. I’m now up to the decision time on the prop. I’d love to get the same prop as yours, but as a few previous guys have pointed out, Van’s do not offer an option for the 3-bladed Raptor Explorer for the tail dragger. Could you please comment on the exact diameter of yours so that I can go to Hartzell and say “I’d like one those please”?

@FlightChops 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I love the prop. I actually flew the airplane to Hartzell yesterday and am here to film with them at the factory for a couple days. I will get you the details :)

@jasonclappison9678 2 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Legend - much appreciated. I'd appreciate it even more if you could grab one of those 74" Raptor Explorers and stuff it your backpack. (Kidding) They are a gorgeous looking work of art.

@pandeliriumstudio 3 жыл бұрын

Fidget Spinner.... just sayin. ;) Like a fan that keeps pilots cool, this will make them fidget when it stops spinning. Keep 'em coming!

@MalteJanduda 3 жыл бұрын

What were the reasons to go with 3 blades instead of 2? Most of the RVs out there have 2 blades.

@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962 3 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing a three legged stool for the work bench.

@feudiable 3 жыл бұрын

Or a giant fidget spinner:)

@EUC-lid 3 жыл бұрын

Clearly a flux capacitor.

@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962 3 жыл бұрын

@@EUC-lid LMAO!!!

@dominicMcAfee 3 жыл бұрын

New ceiling fan?

@wi11y1960 3 жыл бұрын

The package is a unique modern frisbee! how is that for an odd answer?

@kimber1911 3 жыл бұрын

Hartzell is located near where I live. I know one of the sons.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

I hope to visit when the plane is flying!

@robertyoung7073 3 жыл бұрын

I went to the Hartzell link for experimental props. No RV-14 selection?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, yeah - I think it might be a prop clearance technicality with the 74" on the tail dragger configuration. I'll get a better look at that next time I am at the hangar

@dannyrobertson7046 3 жыл бұрын

I think it may be a propeller

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

No SPOILERS! :)

@martijn9568 3 жыл бұрын

Nah, that's obviously a fan to keep the pilots cool

@EUC-lid 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Propellers aren't spoilers, silly.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

@@EUC-lid - haha - well played.

@Pacific-Myth 3 жыл бұрын

Does Experimental have an effect on insurance rates?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll address this question in a future episode.

@hectorherbert6585 Жыл бұрын

3 spokes closed crate and the guy opening it yelling all happy : oh, wow it's a three-blade prop..!!..no shit ,Sherlock..!!

@scotte2815 3 жыл бұрын

does it have deice?

@thehoeser 3 жыл бұрын

Nope, no anti-icing.

@TheJttv 3 жыл бұрын

I design crates, boxes and other trash for a living and I am puzzled by that packaging. Seems overly complex, but I am sure they had a reason.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Dunno... did you watch the "unboxing" portion? it came apart pretty simply and seemed to make sense as far as how it was protecting the prop.

@TheJttv 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops its was simple for you the customer, but looks complex for the factory team to assemble. Also lots of sperate cardboard pieces to track in a factory. But packaging is always designed with tradeoffs so they may have been focusing on part cost and customer experience rather than assembly time and piece count. Just different frame of mind

@nateb4114 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJttv Judging from the shots of them assembling it they probably aren't putting out a huge number of props in a day, so it might not make that much of a difference in cost/time to pack it the way they did.

@scotte2815 3 жыл бұрын

GEE! I wonder what could be in that box? I'm guessing a Triskelion from the Isle of Man

@scotte2815 3 жыл бұрын

OHHH I was WAY off

@aserta 3 жыл бұрын

A !raced! Triskelion from the Isle of Man :))

@MargaretLeber 3 жыл бұрын

Or that ST-TOS episode. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gamesters_of_Triskelion

@jpaulholbrook 3 жыл бұрын

So what's the weight of the carbon fiber prop vs an aluminum one?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure of the exact numbers off the top of my head, but it is a fair bit

@sabreflyr4391 3 жыл бұрын

ESP disable switch? Hadn’t thought about that. How is that wired? Is it available as a soft switch through the G3X?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Cool yeah - it is a soft switch via the menus. I just wanted something quick and accessible, and also any excuse for a covered rocker switch, right? :)

@sabreflyr4391 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops I’ll have to look into that. I’m thinking Apollo-style guards (paddle switches with chrome guards either side). 😃

@sabreflyr4391 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Is it wired directly into the G3X, the GMC or one of the remote boxes?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

SteinAir did the panel work - I will explain some of those details in an upcoming episode

@sabreflyr4391 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Turns out, I had already been planning on installing that switch. Just hadn’t thought about it for quite a while. Found it was already on a list of planned switches. Love the vlog and the progress you’re making!

@YVRCasting 3 жыл бұрын

Oohh I don't think its a book!

@toadamine 3 жыл бұрын

How much does a propeller cost? Thinking about an RV7 build... 😁👍

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

That prop and spinner is roughly $24K USD

@bernardc2553 3 жыл бұрын

Many of Us Early Atec owners Despise Hartzell after what they DIDN'T do ,After the AD'S on THEIR CLAMPS still the methylate on an open wound !

@zoltankormos2194 3 жыл бұрын

With Oshkosh happening between July 26 - Aug 1, I assume Aero Friedrichshafen 2021 is out of question for you. (It's between Jul 14 - 17)

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Latest news is that Aero '21 was just cancelled, and rescheduled to April '22

@zoltankormos2194 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops Damn. It was cancelled today 😢 Any plans for 2022?

@henningerhenningstone691 3 жыл бұрын

Aero Friedrichshafen is in Germany, *of course* it doesn't happen. I also wouldn't get my hopes up for April next year, pretty sure they'll reschedule it again to late summer, if at all

@mikercflyer7383 3 жыл бұрын

@@henningerhenningstone691 I was wondering are things that bad in Germany? The air show is outside in the fresh air.

@henningerhenningstone691 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikercflyer7383 Fresh air doesn't really matter here, public events in general aren't well-received with the officials and have been forbidden altogether for almost a year now. This is totally independent of the number of cases, so no prediction can be made as to when public events will be allowed again. E.g. general lockdown my be eased slightly if 100,000 people produce fewer than 50 positive tests in one week, but there is no such lower limit for public events. (everything up to here was facts; from here on is just discussion about how bad things really are from what I can tell) The fact that 100 positive tests in one week per 100,000 residents is enough for "hard lockdown" makes everything seem much worse than it is imo. Even if those 100 tests were from individual people, that's still only 0.1% of the respective regions population (the way they calculate these limits means if your region has 10,000 residents, 10 positive tests per week is enough for emergency-stop lockdown!). And if we consider that many people are legally obliged to get tested every or every other day, you alone might produce multiple positive tests per week (e.g. to see if you are "still positive"). Now let's also take into account that the PCR test has a false positive rate estimated between 0.8% and 4.3% [according to UK gov't Oct 21, 2020], this means if you test 100,000 people per week in a certain region, you will *definitely* get more than 0.1% positives - which means: hard lockdown! So to conclude: Germany is stuck with its lockdown and probably will be for a long time to come, unless the government re-thinks the way they judge the need for lockdown, but so far they've strictly gone by "more lockdown is more better, no matter how much virus". -- Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

@ryancrazy1 3 жыл бұрын

0:01 ADS-B out?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Haha

@justcommenting4981 10 ай бұрын

How is it very repairable? I would think carbon composite would cause serious problems for repair.

@thunderbolt513 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Probably a alu/composit kind of stool🤣🤣👍

@MargaretLeber 3 жыл бұрын

"ASCII Carbon Fiber"? Wouldn't it have to be Unicode to fly in ICAO counties?

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

No idea what that means :P. But aren't both US and Canada ICAO countries?

@MargaretLeber 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops I was goofing. In software, ASCII is American Standard Code for Information Interchange, which is the original computer character encoding that succeeded the Baudot Teletype code. Unicode is the new encoding that allows many more glyphs to accommodate non-Latin languages. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII

@thehoeser 3 жыл бұрын

@@MargaretLeber Well, I got it and I laughed. lol

@Microfrost 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a software engineer, so I just had to look this up. They left the hyphen out of "ASC-II" for some reason.

@MargaretLeber 3 жыл бұрын

@@Microfrost I couldn't find it... although I did catch a reference to "Advanced Structural Composite". I'm a software engineer too, and my ex- was a chemist and became a nurse practitioner. We went through flight training together. We used to joke that when we rode in the car together, every license plate has secret meanings...

@altitude9934 3 жыл бұрын

first!

@jorgemrivera5973 3 жыл бұрын

Its a tire ….. Looking better every day...

@Bladavia 3 жыл бұрын

oh god the innuendos

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Haha - I hadn't thought of that. Title changed to "... crate..." - cool? :P

@Bladavia 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops I was thinking of 5:40 onwards in the video actually :p

@bobninemire5154 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't the prop going to be in the way of the build ?....I think Cessna hangs it last

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

We're kinda hoping we're there... 1st engine start is imminent.

@CeleryCarrots 3 жыл бұрын

ㅤ

@bivibuddydan 3 жыл бұрын

Takes along while to get to the point.

@GenericAnimeBoy 3 жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity to open the video with "What do you think is in this box? Wrong answers only." 🙃

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Ha - yup. But if you have a look at the comments, a bunch of people did go for that direction :)

@bjs2022 3 жыл бұрын

“Most unique…” No. Usage error.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

"Least normal"? :)

@bjs2022 3 жыл бұрын

@@FlightChops No, “most unusual” is good. Unique is finite, like “dead”. Don’t use an adjective with it.

@FlightChops 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I understand what you are saying. I was just having fun with this title, and trying to be a little hyperbolic... agreed about the literal grammar; but using your "dead" example, if some one was peacefully passed away of old age in their bed VS exploded in a ball of flames of a violent car crash, I'd still be inclined to say "Woah, that guy is REALLY dead"... While understanding that the qualifier is redundant.