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I'm so ready for it dude

Oh absolutely, they could just use the engine for mw05 and modernize the graphics. Really all it would need tbh

​@@OG_AsianGodAn old engine like that wouldn't work for a modern game

Not only that, but the Criterion games that had brake to drift as a mechanic had a really good handling, like you can't deny that Burnout Paradise didn't had a good arcade handling. The problem with the handling came from NFS 2015, as Ghosts tried to integrate both old school handling and brake to drift handling in the same game without changing the car physics for each, so you had an unpredictable handling in both grip and drift. Now in NFS Unbound is better, but still, no match against those 2000s and early 2010s games.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@OG_AsianGodwhat a way to put it, Im sure Ive had a similar thought. Its like the devs dont realise that having the cars have weight and a more involved feel brings more depth and immersion to a game than good graphics ever could.

you feel correctly

that would be so good, undercovers handling model felt way too arcady and the camera didnt help either

one of the overhaul mods already did it

​@@waybe-gg1nbbut not like this, this is feeling mw when you play

The thing is they already tried yet its impossible to change how physics and handling work in that game because that ruins the handling too, kuru even said this in some older undercover video, basically there is no way they can change the handling since they dont have an option to do so in vlted or any other program used for this stuff you have like some handling tweaks but its no way near as effective as nfs mw or carbon, so with no acces to whatever the devs used its almost impossible :[[[

@@TinsaeBereded-qb3bd It wasnt about arcadiness, it was just stiff and stilted and incredibly unnatural. PS2 version fixed that entirely as it has modified Carbon handling, but is actualy far more fun than Caron itself.

Spot on! That's what the goal was for the handling revamp. I may even say the "Most Wanted Handling" is misleading, but that's another story

That description sure makes me want to play the game again. I always disliked the stiffness of handling in PS. Had to spend quite a lot of time on tuning or used very specific cars that I felt comfortable with. Maybe with this mod I'll have some new favourites.

​@@Poppenheimer69 I'm gonna be honest, I still have yet to figure out how to tune a car to handle decently on grip events to handle without losing a lot of speed. Speaking of speed, I'm sure suspension tuning on that is impossible.

@@cavalierliberty6838 I think when it comes to Pro Street, "placement" of turns and respect of the track comes first, car choice second and tuning last. It matters more when you turn and how, than what tool you use to do it. I say that because from my experience most cars are too sluggish in turns, even with best parts and tuning involved. There are a few meta cars that basically allow you to drive as you please, at whatever speeds, other cars are offer nimbleness of a rotten log. I basically had to handbrake into every turn on some vehicles. For me tuning turned into a game of tip-toeing between cars turning too quickly to go through wide tracks without loss of speed and same cars not turning at all. As for Speed tuning, I would basically grab the fastest car I can and "soften" the suspension. Basically I'd reduce responsiveness and increase stability. It helped with situations where I'd have to bounce from side to side to stabilise. Still, during some tracks I had to use nitrous to achieve stability without losing speed. Still, I'm no expert, I basically just hope that I understand tooltips for tuning correctly and that they're written correctly lmao

It would be good if it's just a misleading name. There's nothing particularly good in Most Wanted's handling.

Yeah same. Vanilla handling requires a bit of skill and knowing how to tune your car.

I'm the "mod maker". I've tweaked the handling so that it primarily RESPONDS quicker, like in MW05. That's the biggest change to the game's feel. The cars having more handling dynamics (over/understeer) is comparatively minor. You still definitely need a light touch and good car/upgrades to handle the beefed up speed challenges and AI.

@@ATomatoIsAFruit Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying. Imma try out the mod in my second run.

@@ATomatoIsAFruit, the one thing that hasn't changed is that in drag race if you're a couple seconds quicker than your opponents, they don't give 100% effort. Just cruise to the finish line.

@@ATomatoIsAFruit Bro, the link is dead. Please write to Kuru with a new link so he can update the description. It cannot be downloaded when download is clicked. But proabbly you can workaround it by adding to your account and then make a copy of it and download. The download limit was reached. edit. OK. It fixed itself after 15 minutes, but adding another mirror won't harm.

The car drives on rails basically, compared to Carbon or U2

Far camera has the shake, don't worry

Exactly. 😊😮

Underground 1 handling is peak imo, it feels so light and responsive and just a joy to drive with most cars, too bad about the shitty crash physics and I also didn't like drift in that game

@@recarsion Underground handling paired with Carbon drift is a perfect combo. Most Wanted's is balanced for speedbreaker and that's not possible in a multiplayer game

lower the suspension of the fron i guesa.

I'm the modder. My only other mod is a GTA 4 handling mod.

@@ATomatoIsAFruitgreat work man. those updated shift times are awesome. i remember it would take 5second to go from 0-100mph but half of that time was spent shifting

​@@ATomatoIsAFruit ive been waiting your mods for a long time, thank you so much

@@ATomatoIsAFruit hey just out of curiosity, dont you have just the mod files so i can put them into my custom nfs ps game? just to avoid installing everything from scratch jk, appreciate it :)

I'm the modder. I installed some script to enable headlight flares, and in the meantime the mod was taken down. Haven't found where the flares are in Vlt-ed, nor did I really feel like removing them, even if they're wonky on half the cars.

@@ATomatoIsAFruit hey hi man, thank you guys for giving us such a bad ass mod for this amazing game, said that, I need your help. I installed the modded game files from kuru description, the game runs and the mod is working properly on my potato, but I have a little problem, when I start the game, the resokution of it is very very low, but not the gaphics it self, literally the entire game screen is very mini, and I ddon0t know how to make it full widescreen, I tried to change the resolution in the options but the only one who fits the entire screen is something like 3600 x 1300 or smth like that, but it goes with 5 fps... :''/ ( with the vanilla game, this problem wasn't a thing ) p.s. sorry for my bad english.

I'm the modder. This handling mod primarily tackles exactly the input delay and weird auto-centering.

Wheelies in an EVO? sure! why not!

Yes, it does. I have two versions of ProStreet: the one from the description and the standard one, and the one from the description definitely has different controls

I'm the modder. Yeah, I struggled for a while with mid and rear-engine cars. What didn't help matters is another script that changed car weight distribution to be closer to reality. A lot of fudging of handling data went in to make sure the cars don't instantly kill you if you corner at high speeds, but they're still tricky to drive.

Yes.

@@MobDKGr thank you for the confirmation You’re a king fam 💪🏼

@@Leonardo_groeneveld Glad to inform 😁👍

me too maybe someone can upload the link on another host....

@@akimbo3479 Yea im still waiting maybe i can get the chance to download.

Haha, I might have to tweak down the first race difficulty. I could consistently finish it, but you do need to be precise and clean.

same ig theres no fix to it yet?

Link in the description. It's a full game.

Tank slapper mod does very little, in my testing. I had to go through each car and tweak their steering values so they actually turn at a decent rate. I'd give UC the same treatment if I cared and had the time, honestly.

@@ATomatoIsAFruit does enough for me

They are already installed, you just need to download the archive from the description

@@RodniUA No what I meant was do you just toss the file into the game folder or do you have to put it somewhere more specific?

@@jacoriediggs5638 just unpack all files to any empty folder and you good to go

need for speed: 'streetwanted

@@bonczy5990 that work too

It's so much better than the old one during high speed, believe me.

​@@SunnyWave174...But I also love the OG intense camera shake. I hope the modder can give us an option to toggle it back on.

​@@JeyVGamingfar camera has the higher shake.

My mod (this one) has only the custom cameras. You can use Vlt-Ed to tweak camera values and bring them closer to the OG.

Yeah i never really felt like ProStreet needs any kind of fixing at all. If anything Carbon needs it and definetly PC version of Undercover(PS2 version is fun to play tbh, feels even better than carbon to play somehow even tho its an edit of it). Carbon messed up so much by commiting to stupid car class and tier gimmicks and they made so many cars outright lame and awful to drive, and slowed the game down drasticly when compared to MW05. I just dont have any fun driving in Carbon its main reason i never replay the career of it anymore. I only like drifting in it and canyon races, but since it's so stupidly easy those became boring aswell. MW05 on the other hand i keep revisiting, same with ProStreet and Underground 1.

I'm the modder. Pro Street does have a handling problem, namely that the steering response is extremely sluggish and then unreasonably fast to self-center. Playing on gamepad or on keyboard never felt quite right. This mod doesn't give *literal* Most Wanted handling, just a much quicker steering response (and other tweaks). Cars now respond to your input much faster, and under/oversteer at a better rate. Give the mod a try. It's the whole game bundled in an archive. Extract somewhere and play. Hopefully you'll enjoy it.

its bAd

please no

Hell NO. It would be a massive disaster since NFS 2015's handling model is utterly flawed and garbage. Plus, it wouldn't fit the Rockport map design. So, better off letting NFS MW 2005's handling physics as it is since it's already perfect. However, the opposite makes more sense. If the NFS MW 2005 handling was implemented into NFS 2015, it would be a massive improvement. Thereafter, No more crabwalking problems.

I think u mean other way around

@@TorutheRedFox I think he is a troll

the handling is bad dude what you mean?

@@alexmaccain2362 it's not? its not as arcade'y as the other nfs yet not realistic enough to be unenjoyable for the average player, the cars feel like they have some proper weight, the cars over and understeer, and the sense of speed is the best of any nfs i recon. I love it

@@kamilslimak594 you might like it but its too light

@@alexmaccain2362 and MW's isn't?

@@kamilslimak594mw wanted have weight differnces like the cts is very heavy car, lotus elise is superlight and smooth when you turn., m3 gtr is grippy and have downforce but spins out in certin places.

dont be a fanboi. mw has better handling than prostreet

@@alexmaccain2362 don't be a mw fanboy. Mw handling was step back after u2. In ps handling you can tune your car any get anything you need. Understeer or oversteer, grip or lite drift. In ps they make quite realistic downforce. Faster you drive, more downforce you get, and can make corner faster. And after all that you can say that mw handling better)

@@doombreed5530 ok then, you seem to not know that in that game every car is front wheel drive. while in mw05 there is awd , fwd, and rwd with actual weight in them. so keep giving people misinfo and see were that do for you.

@@alexmaccain2362 you have any proof for that loud words "every car is fwd"? In mw difference between wheeldrive presented not so well

@@doombreed5530 ah. do a quick google search on both ug1 and 2 on youtube and google, so i dont get why u even telling me. plus why your saying "mw did not present the drivetrains well" makes you seems like a hater more than anything. The reason u discredit mw05 is cause its popular and cause of its popularity u hate it . the ironic thing is your comment is not impactful and the millions of other nfs fans would take mw handing than any other nfs handing physics cause, one exp you can slide on grass like irl losing traction while using rwd, awd actually gives you little bit of traction when griping on street and grass. u can actually use racing lines in the game which make for faster cornering which fun fact cant do un ug1 and 2 cause the cars are very arcade , which end of the day will always be arcade, nfs mw is almost simcade and pretty feel the weight of the cars in that game like the cts,, camero . c6, mustang gt, which these cars are very heavy which is good for smashing cop cars the end of the day. so the agrument that everything you listed so called " better handling than mw" is soooo farther than the truth that i am laughing my buttoff right now🤣🤣🤣😂 the reason i am laughing is that u did not done any research on ug1 and 2 handling phyics and u telling me that that game is better than mw? cry me a riverand do some research.

It's not about realism, but how fun and entertaining it is, MW05 has best blend of arcade and sim elements with some liberties taken to make it into something that is as fun a GTA IV's handling, you have the grip, but somehow feel the weight too. Camera work is nearly perfect too. I enjoy underground 2 a bit less than MW05 and Carbon itself is a major stepdown from MW05's gameplay in all aspects, as they messed up almost everything by going so hard with all gimmicks like car classes and tiers on top of slowing everything down and messing up the upgrade system entirely. Its just not fun to race around Palmont and big chunk of cars are just horribly boring or outright awful to drive save for muscle cars and few tuners, but even then its a far cry from Most Wanted's feel.

as if more realism is better lol most people cant tune their car in ug2

@@Kacpa2 You just reinforced what I said basically

@@waybe-gg1nb Not my fault people are stupid

wrong

your answer wrong.not my comment@@waybe-gg1nb

Don't kid yourself. What a nonsense L take. Any handling model from past NFS titles before 2012 (the Shift duology spinoff doesn't count) are miles better and more controllable than any NFS games released since 2012 because their respective urban map design never worked with the B2D handling physics. The B2D physics was only designed for maps like Paradise City from Burnout Paradise and Seacrest County from NFS HP 2010/Remastered. If the NFS MW 2005 handling physics were bad as you said, it wouldn't have managed to be successful and sold 17,8 Millions of copies worldwide. Moreover, if NFS Hot Pursuit 2 PS2 developed by Black Box was a commercial failure, the NFS franchise as we know today and the Black Box era wouldn't exist in and be totally different in the first place.

major wrong

The downloadable version is patched to v1.1 and has the generic fix (no more continue bug), as well as other fixes and bugs bundled in

@@ATomatoIsAFruit ​ Ooohh nice then, thank you, now i need to wait before i can download it cuz of this google drive "too many user had downloaded the file" error, gotta download it tomorrow i think