Mother - Danzig | College Students' FIRST TIME REACTION!

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@midkingsteve 2 жыл бұрын

Danzig to me always sounds like if Jim Morrison started a punk band

@MrAllDay2u 2 жыл бұрын

#TRUTH

@72stinger 2 жыл бұрын

Totally. I'd add that it's as if Morrison had a child with The Cult's Ian Astbury, you got Danzig.

@AdamAdam-md4mi 2 жыл бұрын

Original

@42Mrgreenman 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rafael-pi4md You do know Danzig was in The Misfits, right?

@buzzbomb67 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly lol

@Skeezer66 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the extremely rare songs loved by metal, punk, alternative, and Goth fans!! Heavy and tuneful!

@katm6 2 жыл бұрын

This old punk/Goth totally agrees.

@David-iv6je 2 жыл бұрын

This old punk disagrees. The whole Satanism schtick always struck me to be one of the dumbest things on the planet. The music is strong for doom rock but the imagery is laughable, a self parody. And that's always the disconnect between punk and metal for me. I get it: both are alienated. Both try to shock. But punk has biting social commentary and metal has ... Satanism? Really? The lyrics and the attitude just come up so short. But my hat has always been off to Danzig for avoiding some of the musical stereotypes of metal even while they bought into the imagery stereotypes like skeletons, horns etc. They don't do the chugging ultra heavy power chords, and that's a plus. But then you get to the shredding solo and it's "ho hum, same old shit."

@tackle47 2 жыл бұрын

@@David-iv6je uh metal has loads of social commentary to lump all metal into a black metal genre shows lack of true understanding of metal.

@David-iv6je 2 жыл бұрын

@@tackle47 I'm old. There were no sub-sub genres of metal when I was young and I can't name a metal song with great lyrics. The imagery seemed mostly preposterous and the musicianship is like the musical equivalent of porn, with guitar shredding taking the place of puffed up lips and silicon breasts. There's a reason the saying is "less is more" and not "more is more."

@tackle47 2 жыл бұрын

@@David-iv6je to each their own but read these lyrics from my favorite band Jinjer from their song Home Back. Oh and I am no spring chicken myself at 54. It is important to note Jinjer is Ukrainian and they lost their homes in the Eastern Ukraine 8 years ago. This song was released in 2019. Jinjer plays zero solos but are not an easy listen for some as they are progressive. Note as well highly technical music is not “porn”, virtuosity is highly valued in metal and many other music. Regardless here is the lyrics. What is this?! What is this mess?! What's that noise? Is this a death sentence? Terrifying silhouettes Rising over the motherland. Are those the fireworks? No. it's a military quirk. Is it a mermaid singing? No. it's a siren screaming. Is it an angel watching over us? It's an air-fighter making a fuss. Why is this party looking so bizarre? A party? No! this is W.A.R. My darling, did we wake up like this? Isolated bodies in a boudoir of helplessness. A bullet is an early bird, a midnight owl. Morning greeting of a rooster are replaced With fire in a hole. My dear, do we have to go to sleep like that? With a soothing cocktail and the hundredth cigarette. Morning greeting of a rooster are replaced With FIRE IN A HOLE!. Our beds are cold, As cold as basement floor. Our beds are cold, As cold as basement floor. This house is not our shelter anymore. Anymore. Home is not a building, Home is liberty. A place where memories live In prosperity and peace. I came back home so I want my home back I came back home so I want my home back. Don't you leave us homeless! Don't you leave us homeless! Homeless homeless.

@septictopix4797 2 жыл бұрын

I have some personal history with this band (and the misfits). when i was a kid, my best friend lived literally 6 houses away on the same block. His name was Eric Stellmann. In 1976, my sister, who was nine years older than me, took us to see Elton John at madison square garden. I was 13, he was 12. We always sat together at the same table in the middle school cafeteria with Paul Caiafa (later known as Doyle, from the misfits) and a couple other nerdy kids. Anyway, Eric Stellmann wold later be known as Eerie Von, the bass player for Danzig. (btw, Glen Danzig's real name is Glen Anzalone)

@tonyapoindexter2781 11 ай бұрын

YES! Somebody knows who tf Glen is💘 It messes me up that so many people do not do a little back research on band's throughout the evolution of music. I mean you can't learn about everyone, or every band, but maybe a little snipitt, on the more well known band's members, especially since they usually exchange time with various bands.

@janetmatney9191 2 жыл бұрын

A couple of years ago, one of my daughters dedicated this song to me on Mother's Day. It might seem strange to some, but it is one of my favorites!

@kimberelydavis379 2 жыл бұрын

Girl! You raised them kids right! 🤘🏼

@twenty3enigma 2 жыл бұрын

So exquisitely wrong that it's wonderful.

@imadbasayev8541 2 жыл бұрын

At least they didn't dedicate Genesis' Mama like some people do

@mike04574 2 жыл бұрын

bruh

@twenty3enigma 2 жыл бұрын

@@imadbasayev8541 Andy Summers' Mother off the Police's Synchronicity would be more traumatic for many mothers.

@markpelton9884 2 жыл бұрын

If you want to do more Danzig, please do "How the Gods Kill." Amazing transitions and energy.

@mattjohn4731 2 жыл бұрын

that's a good choice. also hear Misfits, and then Samhain. There is a youtuber Jeff Frumess who digs comically deep into the Danzig universe, his channel is quite good

@davidfinnell1660 2 жыл бұрын

My brain automatically reaches for MAX volume when I hear this!

@jgsrhythm100 2 жыл бұрын

FYI Glenn Danzing began in the punk band " Misfits" Need to get back to " The Cult"- " Love Removal Machine". Similar to this. Both great!!

@viclagina347 2 жыл бұрын

I second Love Removal Machine

@lloydbraun6026 2 жыл бұрын

Very similar bands. Dancing/Misfits very raw. The Cult more polished and produced.

@ednicholson7839 2 жыл бұрын

I thought this was The Cult when it came out. Sounds so much like them.

@relativetimeworx8459 2 жыл бұрын

poor man's spin on ":the Cult" for sure.

@jgsrhythm100 2 жыл бұрын

@@ednicholson7839 Sounds a lot like Lil Devil by the Cult.

@ghostwolf1435 2 жыл бұрын

Danzig was the former lead singer of The Misfits the seminal Horror Punk Band His vocals were channeling Elvis and Jim Morrison

@mrgmusicclass 2 жыл бұрын

And ROY Orbison

@ghostwolf1435 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@sthenx0r 2 жыл бұрын

This song felt so foreboding and dangerous when I was a kid... hearing it now, it is so sparse, so precise... stripped to the bones and smacking as hard as it can. What an awesome song.

@mattiefee 2 жыл бұрын

Great pick! Travel little further back in history and hit some Misfits (Danzig's original band) London Dungeon or Saturday Night (yes, I know it's not Glenn singing) would be my recommendation.

@itskyyuuuu 2 жыл бұрын

😆 🤣 😂

@myreviews8099 2 жыл бұрын

After the misfits stay on board and hit some black flag too

@mattiefee 2 жыл бұрын

@@myreviews8099 good call

@idizzle498 2 жыл бұрын

Saturday night is Graves singing though

@gcfournier3386 2 жыл бұрын

@@idizzle498 great fucking song tho

@RyneMurray23 2 жыл бұрын

Hell of a song 🔥🤘🏼 when this comes on while I'm driving I start to speed🤘🏼😂

@thesnoyls 2 жыл бұрын

The Cult "Electric" is one of the most no nonsense, balls out, hard rock albums of the 80s. Peace Dog is my favorite track off that album

@jokermtb 2 жыл бұрын

b-52 baby! Prolly my favorite The Cult album - bangers galore

@jaygustin1713 2 жыл бұрын

Electric and Sonic Temple were always close at hand when I was in high school

@ES-hr6vg 2 жыл бұрын

Love from Love is the best guitar lick. Wicked heavy goth.

@buckeyechad1 2 жыл бұрын

Love Removal Machine for me. First Cult song i heard. MTV

@generoberts9151 2 жыл бұрын

Great choice. I like every song off that album. Lil Devil, Rattlesnake shake, NYC, Wildflower….the list goes on

@bradlandis7 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andy and Alex, you made my day. Checkout some of Glen Danzig earlier music with The Misfits. Last Caress, Where Eagles Dare, Asteroid Zombies, and Die Die Die my Darling are awesome!

@Charles-ij1ow 2 жыл бұрын

Once upon a long time ago lived evil Awakened to find that you're looking through the eyes of a madman's evil monster

@fredhall6525 2 жыл бұрын

You've heard Floyd and Danzig. Now it's time for John Lennon's "Mother".

@brianmiller1077 2 жыл бұрын

Then 'Mama' by Genesis.

@moniphil 2 жыл бұрын

What about the Police, Blondie or Chicago? Those are the only other songs I know simply entitled Mother. Probably only The Police song is fairly well-known out of these three since it is from a blockbuster album. Chicago’s song Mother was on Chicago III, so it’s probably remembered by many folks. Blondie’s song is from 2011.

@danholmesfilm 2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@perfumegarden1 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I’m smiling from ear to ear. It brings me such joy that you reviewed this ! This song is on fire. The singer has such a great voice.

@johndef5075 2 жыл бұрын

Twist of Cain is a banger too.

@mrgmusicclass 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. Big time banger

@katm6 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! Another Danzig song which had me racing for the dance floor. LOVE IT.

@brettg274 2 жыл бұрын

Glen Danzig’s other band is The Misfits, this is his solo project. The Misfits are like a fusion of punk rock, Elvis/50’s rock n roll, and horror-genre B-movies. Check out The Misfits - “We Are 138”

@reddwarf3069 2 жыл бұрын

I’m totally there for late 80’s and 90’s bangers like this!

@mikethemotormouth 2 жыл бұрын

Twist of Cain would have to be the next step. Also Glenn's first band, Misfits are an iconic punk band. Check out Die Die My Darling, Teenagers from Mars, Astro Zombies, Last Caress, and Horror Hotel

@junietunes2148 2 жыл бұрын

This is definitely one of those songs that is fun to sing along to, super fun, belty and catchy. Great reaction Gents!

@xavvi 2 жыл бұрын

Glenn Danzig is a nutbag and I love him.

@PaulThomas-ii5nj 2 жыл бұрын

This was a perfect reaction from you two this time. Awesome song by a awesome group!

@piratemccall 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this song in High school. Danzig's vocals are like a metal mix of Jim Morrison and Elvis.

@mnm2007 2 жыл бұрын

You should do “Mother” by John Lennon!. You guys haven’t played any solo John Lennon ,George Harrison, Ringo Starr solo work ! . What a crime .

@RyanWhipple 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’d love to hear them listen to Working Class Hero or Instant Karma at the very least

@mikep6222 2 жыл бұрын

On KZfaq, there could be a block problem.

@blanewilliams5960 2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@andydurazo5337 2 жыл бұрын

What?! He liked an eighties song? Clutches chest heart attack.

@mrgmusicclass 2 жыл бұрын

Appetite for Destruction is one of his favorite albums.

@andydurazo5337 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrgmusicclass lol Guns and Posers? Just a joke I also like Guns and Roses.

@burmajones803 2 жыл бұрын

He's liked lots of 80s songs. Go take a look at the videos tab for proof so we can put that myth to bed once and for all.

@Shadowrider1872 2 жыл бұрын

GOOOOOOOD MORNING A&A FAMILY!!! ☮️💟♾️

@attackofthesingletrack Жыл бұрын

Gives me hope to see younger generations enjoying music of my generation

@happymethehappyone8300 2 жыл бұрын

The Flaming Lips "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots" & "Do You Realize"

@murtafilipe 5 ай бұрын

The first real music reaction channel I see, the others always pause and rewind the song when they hear it for the first time, it doesn't make any sense. Congratulations on your channel!

@RockyMtnRebecca 2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard this before, but holy heck > I enjoyed the heck outta' that dudes! Now I'm going to have to check out more Danzig. Thnx for introducing something to me!

@submandave1125 2 жыл бұрын

Impossible to hear Glen Danzig's voice without recommending some Misfits, especially their seminal "Last Caress."

@ramonaalvarez7559 2 жыл бұрын

I'm on the same level as you Alex with an "S"... Mostly bc of the lyrical content .. it needed to be screamed with a mad attitude & loud hard rock!! I have to say though it was definitely borderline for me from an "A+". Thnx Andy for sharing this one with Alex .. new for me but I really liked it. You Gents have a wonderful week❣️

@alexandereckert5939 2 жыл бұрын

Danzig’s entire catalogue is a treasure trove of incredible lyricism and integrity he didn’t care to be mainstream.

@mrgmusicclass 2 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! 1st 3 Danzig albums are awesome. Borderline S tier for me.

@tristramcoffin926 2 жыл бұрын

Black Aria and 4 are good, too. After that, I agree the quality started to fall off.

@macfilms9904 2 жыл бұрын

I normally read all my news with coffee before any KZfaq videos, but saw 'Mother' & Danzig and was instantly all-in. Check out Glenn's earlier band, The Misfits - 'Die die die my darling' is a classic.

@sharonstratis2846 2 жыл бұрын

This is a new one for me, so thanks Andy! The vocals remind me of The Cult so much. Love the tempo change.

@williamdrake6711 2 жыл бұрын

YES!!!!! Ive listened to every glenn danzig project since i was a kid and im 43

@sarahdixon1943 2 жыл бұрын

Heyheyhey!!!! FINALLLLLY someone is doing Danzig!!! This is one of my favorite hard songs!! When I listen to this song, our neighbors do too

@brianmoon1058 2 жыл бұрын

to go from Dusty Springfield to Danzig is the reason I watch this channel 😁

@thcdad3632 2 жыл бұрын

"Little Whip" off DANZIG 4 is perfection.

@katm6 2 жыл бұрын

Those opening notes always had me running to the dance floor, back in the day.

@keithprofitt3717 2 жыл бұрын

You want to give this song justice? You need to hear the live version. Listening to the crowd singing along. Gives me chills!!!

@darkfieldmpls 2 жыл бұрын

The Misfits were Glen Danzig's first band. They are legendary for fusing a goth/horror motif with punk/harcore songs with earworm melodys. songs you must hear are Where Eagles Dare, Astro Zombies, Horror Business, Teenagers From Mars, Skulls, and Green Hell (which was covered by Metallica.)

@notquitedone51 2 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, this just popped into my head a couple days ago. Haven't heard since high school. Thanks for doing it!

@nightbird1314 2 жыл бұрын

Hey fam! Every house band in Florida still plays song to this day! 💚💚

@Shadowrider1872 2 жыл бұрын

Morning 🌄

@Meandmymirror 2 жыл бұрын

What part? I want to move in 2 years. Fort Myers Beach or Saint Pete Beach I think

@nightbird1314 2 жыл бұрын

@@Meandmymirror The Tampa area...

@nightbird1314 2 жыл бұрын

@@Meandmymirror I prefer St. Pete to Ft. Myers.

@Meandmymirror 2 жыл бұрын

@@nightbird1314 Can you tell me why? The Saint Pete Beach have inexpensive or free trolleys transportation?

@viclagina347 2 жыл бұрын

More cow bell damn it.... Banger boys.... from the 80s BTW..... Danzig is a little dude bodybuilder with a great voice...... and the pork chop sideburns make the look.... lol

@martybattle9002 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of more cowbell… kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbyjhK-d0JO4YKc.html

@SleepParty30 Жыл бұрын

I recently discovered this song like a couple months ago. Been jammin to it ever since in the car.

@vaughnnewman8903 Жыл бұрын

Danzig also reminds me of a cross between Jim Morrison and Ian Astbury (of the Cult).

@cdcaleo 2 жыл бұрын

The whole album this monster banger came from was incredible. I bought it the week it was released. The whole thing still holds up and then some.

@timbeaudoin7843 2 жыл бұрын

My wife is saying that her brother loved it. They would take the long way home to hear it loudly

@tomtompkins7546 2 жыл бұрын

I am from Louisville Kentucky. Back in the day, late 80s early 90s, there was a band from here called Kinghorse. They were going to be the next big thing , and I loved them. They got a record deal, went to New York City and recorded with Glenn Danzig as their producer. The resulting album is very, very good. It holds up well, but the band never really went anywhere. I would strongly suggest checking it out. It's available on KZfaq. They were a brutally good live band, as the legend went, they played every single song they knew at every rehearsal. Unfortunately, they never really went anywhere. I do remember them coming home from La after they played a showcase out there. They told me about some stupid band that opened for them named Alice in Chains.

@astonsfan 2 жыл бұрын

The 502!!! Loved bar hop'n back in the 80's lots of good live bands !!! R.I.P Toy Tiger......

@adrathemetaloutlaw754 2 жыл бұрын

I always tell new Danzig listeners that this is like a AC/DC rock beat with Jim Morrison as a vocalist

@jackie_jrml 2 жыл бұрын

I still hear it on the radio today! I had this CASSETTE single when this came out 😂 I was 9 yrs old! He’s only 5’3” or so but built and man can he sing!

@janetnaumann8169 2 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for this one! My son played it on guitar hero and it hit my playlist

@razor3683 2 жыл бұрын

Such a great gym song. Kicks tremendous ass. I wish more of their songs had this vibe.

@freddymo3339 2 жыл бұрын

Evocative ! Thanks Alex for our 'New Word for Today' !

@garyschill7923 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Guys - an unexpected Banger! I originally got into A&A because of the Rock you reviewed, and the Rockers remain my favorite reacts!!!

@Hmmmph3623 2 жыл бұрын

Never heard this before, his voice stylistically sounds like Jim Morrison. Good stuff.

@rubicon-oh9km 2 жыл бұрын

Ya. Glen Danzig definitely worships at the throne of Jim Morrison.

@myislandgirl 2 жыл бұрын

Thought the same

@happymethehappyone8300 2 жыл бұрын

NO ONE Should Go Through Thier Lives Without Hearing This Classic Rock Anthem,, Billy Thorpe "Children Of The Sun"...R.I.P. Billy 🙏 ❤

@demonhoopa 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking to the effect of music video games of your generation, there is a band that’s currently getting big called “The Warning” that exists because three sisters were enamored with the game “Rock Band”. They eventually asked their parents for the real instruments

@chrislovett56 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys I'm a truck driver I just picked up in Lakeland I'm on i-4 fixing to pick up i-75 going north heading to baton rouge Louisiana I'm checking out your danzig video as we speak!

@reboot_2.00 Жыл бұрын

That’s one great sound.

@donaldromesburg1902 2 жыл бұрын

I'm 64 , this is a banger - S tier. I wasn't into the hair band Era. Yet this one stood out

@sherridelay2484 2 жыл бұрын

My kids were huge Danzig fans. I started to listen and thought they were awesome

@michaelknight2118 2 жыл бұрын

Great song guys. Such a strong tune.Thanks for this memory.

@Rob_Hernandez 2 жыл бұрын

Bought this tape when it came out. Always loved Danzig

@martcp71 2 жыл бұрын

One of those rare songs that has never left my playlist. Great video!

@CorePathway Жыл бұрын

Imagine coming into this cold for the first time!

@user-gj3hc5uc7s 7 ай бұрын

I like deep house music and 90s hip hop but I love this song

@markthompson7983 2 жыл бұрын

Next 80's - "Bastards of Young" by The Replacements

@jasonfrost3693 2 жыл бұрын

I missed him singing "thank you!" at the end from the live version

@Davosaurus_Rex 2 жыл бұрын

Evil Elvis lives!

@cdcaleo 2 жыл бұрын

Danzig loves Elvis and made no bones about using Elvis as a strong influence.

@SCVIndy 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing guitar work .. wow!

@stevejacobson2906 2 жыл бұрын

Also adding Cold Wind to Valhalla also from the Minstrel album. The drumming. Oh the drumming!

@dawest767 2 жыл бұрын

I remember back in the day when we heard there was going to be an X-Men movie, everyone wanted Danzig to play Wolverine, because he's very short and stocky, like the actual comic Wolverine. Would have been interesting.

@johnnyjga 2 жыл бұрын

Don't think I've ever heard this one before but it does sound vaguely familiar. Good, good tune!

@catbutte4770 2 жыл бұрын

I thought this song was a "Guitar Hero" song. Now I know who did it, thanks! 😎

@DarkAngel1985Mike Жыл бұрын

Loved this since it came out since my older sister was a metalhead and I was raised on this

@viclagina347 2 жыл бұрын

You can't go wrong with guitar hero songs guys... thanks for the banger

@CarltonNoles 2 жыл бұрын

Great tune. My kids used to play guitar hero 2. I would try and got frustrated. I ended up getting my guitar and actually playing along with most of the tunes.

@brendanjones3816 2 жыл бұрын

By far the thing that stuck out to me most on this listen was the drums. It felt like Pick Withers (Dire Straits original drummer) was on the skins here, doing everything to serve the song, bringing high energy when needed, but never drawing attention in a "look-at-me" way.

@ctneely9592 2 жыл бұрын

I was the same. I heard this song from guitar hero 2 and loved it ever since. Now you'll have to do more guitar hero songs on the channel and I can't wait.

@Renkk17 2 жыл бұрын

You Guys need to hear (Phill Collins - Mama)

@colinbraddock7185 2 жыл бұрын

I actually found myself looking forward to the chorus, knowing how you guys would react!

@johnhughes3214 2 жыл бұрын

Great reaction and insights, guys. The song's greatness is in its simplicity. Another great hard rock/metal song with reference to the vocalist's mother and father in the chorus is "Second Chance" by Shinedown. An A+ or S song.

@alexjohnson2880 2 жыл бұрын

Watching them just groove out and head bob to this has to be one of the most relatable things ever

@sunnyday_lemonbars 2 жыл бұрын

So good thanx guys! Another great Danzig song is Dirty Black Summer

@todvball 2 жыл бұрын

I'd put it up there with BTO, Autograph, Blackfoot....etc etc. Good garage rock sound. It's a B+ from me.

@jgsrhythm100 2 жыл бұрын

Autograph? Don't see those 2 together at all ,lol. Not Blackfoot., Not even close.

@todvball 2 жыл бұрын

@@jgsrhythm100 You're right... they're not as good as any of those 3 bands. It's a meaty sound though... Good heavy meaty sound.

@VGKDean 2 жыл бұрын

Danzig was the last concert I saw in California before I moved to Florida in 1989. Good times.

@gabe2869 2 жыл бұрын

Glen Danzig was originally in mind to play Jim Morrison in The Doors movie before it went to Val Kilmer.

@babylonsister118 2 жыл бұрын

Great reaction to a great ole song!

@ingobordewick6480 2 жыл бұрын

The opening riff was written by Michael Jackson for "Dirty Diana" as the opening bass line.

@Charles-ij1ow 2 жыл бұрын

About to fall asleep while driving home in the AM, this song came on the radio might have saved my life, enough energy for the rest of the trip.

@SophiaAphrodite 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys. One of your Patreons just passed away Saturday. I sent a message to you through his Patreon account to let you know. He mentioned you guys a lot and really liked your series. Throw him a shout out in remembrance the next time you do anything from Rush. Was his favorite band.

@sfcub-Bill 2 жыл бұрын

For some reason my volume knob was higher at the end of the song then it was when I started! Good job gents!

@terryp4164 2 жыл бұрын

This song and the first album always remind me of period one freshman year Biology class. There was a group of us who loved Danzig, Samhain, the Misfits. Danzig was the perfect bridge between those of us who watched Headbangers Ball and those who watched 120 Minutes, or both in my case.