Motivating a Lazy Horse: Ken McNabb Horsemanship

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Ken McNabb

Ken McNabb

2 жыл бұрын

Today, we are talking about MOTIVATION, particularly when it comes to horses who are more reluctant to move. To be motivated, you have to feel that there's a reward at the end, so during this lesson I want to focus on rewarding the horse for forward motion AND a positive attitude about that forward motion.
TOOLS
Spurs, in my opinion, are for specific cues, and I'd rather not use them as a tool to get him to move out. When I want to achieve forward motion and I need an outside tool as a reinforcer, I'd rather "bite him" on the butt with a dressage whip, because that's most similar to what another horse would do. The goal is to only use the dressage whip temporarily and eventually move away from having to use it at all.
GROUNDWORK
I'm going to start on the ground and ask the horse to walk off just with a kissing noise. When he doesn't walk off, I'll give him a spank. Try not to be too picky to begin with. Just reward movement. If he kicks out and shows attitude, I will give a second spank to continue to drive him forward. When the horse understands to move forward without having to use the whip, we are ready to move on to riding.
WORKING ON MOTIVATION UNDER SADDLE
When it comes to lazy horses, I think more people actually have problems with attitude rather than movement. To start changing the attitude, I am going to reward (slow down) when he has good forward motion and ears forward. I am also going to push him to speed up when he decides on his own to slow down. If he kicks out or demonstrates attitude through his body, correct it while keeping him moving. You don't want to reward the behavior by slowing down.
KEY POINTS TO REMEMBER
- It is important to acknowledge that horse can't be motivated if we are not motivated. On a lazy horse, I envision us trying to win the Kentucky Derby. Having this vision in my mind brings more energy into my body, which communicates forward energy to my horse.
- Remember that pressure motivates him to seek a release, but the RELEASE is what makes the CHANGE.
- It is also important to keep in mind that CONSISTENCY is key with a lazy horse.
MOTIVATION
Motivation is the inner push to rise to the occasion. Sometimes people don't realize their potential, so it is hard to be motivated. In order for me to feel motivated, I have to have an end picture in mind. I have to have a goal. Attitude has a lot to do with motivation. Believing something positive will happen, and being rewarded for small successes both have a lot to do with how motivated we will be to keep trying.
Until next time, may God bless the trails you ride,
- Ken McNabb

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@Renegadehorsemanship
@Renegadehorsemanship Жыл бұрын
This was the most helpful thing I've seen so far, for me. My gelding is 4 years old, very similar to this guy. Sassy and cranky when asked to lope. So working on the attitude makes so much sense!
@5128goldenrod
@5128goldenrod 3 ай бұрын
Best unmotivated horse video i have seen, thanks. You really did that in 30 mins?…wow! We have just bought a 14 y/o ex trail horse….great natured gelding, but pushy, who only walks in the arena. 3 sessions of lunge/groundwork, and he trots/lopes now on a lead rope. Still sluggish to leg aids…..will try this approach, i was nervous about picking up a crop and never being able to drop it later.
@lisacoffeymustangs39
@lisacoffeymustangs39 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thank you for this video. My mustang gelding fits this description of lazy horse so this really reinforces what I’ve been trying to do with him and will continue.
@jocelynyoung9398
@jocelynyoung9398 Жыл бұрын
This will really help with my sort of lazy help. I will try today. Thank you.
@aragonacres
@aragonacres 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Percheron cross (Mickey) that looks just like Hercules and he also pins his ears at me and will kick at me on the ground with his displeasure. He is 17hands and knows he is big. He is gentle for the most part but will definitely challenge you if he doesn't want to do something. I am bringing him to your clinic this September. I hope we can work on these behaviors there.
@kenmorris2290
@kenmorris2290 Жыл бұрын
I have seen this type of behavior in a lot of draft and cob type horses. These "coldbloods" have a reputation as "gentle giants." But the reality is that they are less fearful than most hotbloods (makes sense for horses that were bred to pull noisy, clanky farm equipment), which means that they are more naturally confident and therefore more likely to challenge you. As one old time horseman (wish I could remember who) said: "There's two kinds of horses: fearful horses and confident horses. It's easy to get a fearful horse's respect, and hard to get his trust. And it's easy to get a confident horse's trust, but hard to get his respect." What you are describing is classic behavior of a confident but disrespectful horse. Any horse that kicks at you on the ground is not "gentle." It's good you are going to get help from a professional who will help you address this. Best of luck!
@sophiahendy94
@sophiahendy94 9 ай бұрын
This is so fantastic, and what I’ve learnt too,thank you for putting it in this video
@glitched-mare5527
@glitched-mare5527 7 ай бұрын
My horse, he is a half draft, is extremely lazy. He is also extremely gentle. I've got him to a lope but it was always hard. I'm definitely trying this out.
@crosscountrygl
@crosscountrygl 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you will be using this next ride I take
@denisederepkowski6806
@denisederepkowski6806 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video.
@francesanneli6936
@francesanneli6936 7 ай бұрын
Oh lord this is my horse. Thank you so very much. It is definitely attitude.
@COMB0RICO
@COMB0RICO 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found your lessons. Called RFD to get you back on. I'm really hoping and a little prayer that we get competition channel out there. Thanks from Abilene Texas.
@vanaruone6767
@vanaruone6767 8 ай бұрын
Yep, the head toss attitude
@vanaruone6767
@vanaruone6767 8 ай бұрын
Love this cuz it’s exactly the issue I have with my lazy horse
@laurenw1168
@laurenw1168 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working with a new horse a few times now, and he reminds me of this guy a lot, except the horse I'm working with tends to snap at people as A coping mechanism he's picked up over the years. My last couple sessions were mostly getting him used to me being the leader and showing him that he doesn't have to be all up in arms around people, and the owner recently told me that snapping has disappeared almost overnight. But he is in general a good riding horse already, so my goal now is to make him softer and more responsive because he's gotten quite lazy over the years. So today when I went out to see him I did just this. I gave him the cue and then gave him the discipline without any extra warnings. I'm excited to see that That's how you would do it as well. Great video :-) and thank you for building my confidence as a trainer!
@calista1280
@calista1280 Жыл бұрын
Amd then you reward him by releasing the pressure, right?
@michelleanderson3212
@michelleanderson3212 2 жыл бұрын
So good!!
@michelleanderson3212
@michelleanderson3212 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@lyssue386
@lyssue386 Ай бұрын
My friesian cross is hands down the "laziest" horse I have ever owned. Much more challenging than I expected lol. But shes sweet and safe at least..but man I wish she had some fire
@lydiagray7524
@lydiagray7524 25 күн бұрын
I watched this video yesterday and I tried it today... it worked amazingly!!!!❤🥹😄 Thank you so much!😊
@2seasea
@2seasea Жыл бұрын
thank you for this :)
@zeitgeist5134
@zeitgeist5134 Жыл бұрын
I have been so discouraged by my mustang. Ask him to do anything under saddle (other than plod listlessly at the walk) and he flattens his ears and puts a really ugly snarl on his mug. So...I have established the kiss-kiss prompt. Thank you! (It's great to have replaced the "go forward" leg aid. I do not want him to associate leg aids with resistance). Nevertheless, I have yet to get an ears-forward attitude at the trot. I might get a very brief one-ear forward thing, quickly returning to ears-back. It is difficult to find something to reward. This horse is very pleasant on the ground, except when I am saddling him, even though I tighten the girth VERY gradually. Buckle the girth and it's ears-flattened-snarl-mug.
@harterwind5032
@harterwind5032 Жыл бұрын
Hi there. You might want to watch a Ryan rose video where he works with a horse that mentality associates sattle with pressure or something nasty.
@paulacorso7954
@paulacorso7954 Жыл бұрын
Hi hope things are going better. I'm sure u have checked any back pain and saddle fit.
@lindajosefsson1686
@lindajosefsson1686 Жыл бұрын
This was great! I have a lazy Gypsy Vanner
@johnharrell2579
@johnharrell2579 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for Video! Dealing with this currently with my 3 year old mare. Was at a dead-end, work on her Attitude ! Thank your!
@ariannahills9604
@ariannahills9604 Жыл бұрын
I love this video and your seriousness and effectiveness !! This really helped me I’m breaking out my QH mare and long lining I found a challenge when she just wouldn’t move! Will be trying these methods tomorrow
@Apb23
@Apb23 Жыл бұрын
How is your horse doing now? I have a draft who won’t move on a circle with lunging or long lining… I’m a bit nervous because she pins her ears and has started to move toward me when I move the whip toward her. I don’t beat her with it. I have spanked her and now she seems very threatening. Im asking my trainer what to do and they recommend the Clinton Anderson way… and run at her in the round pen… I can’t do that! I may need to go to a clinic or something… how is yours doing?
@DARKhorses73
@DARKhorses73 7 ай бұрын
I've owned friesians awhile, 20+ and i think over spoiling makes them dull. Guilty! Ken is by far one of the best.
@kengraham6288
@kengraham6288 2 жыл бұрын
Ken, thanks for the video. I see my horse has the same attitude as Hercules and now I have some motivation myself to motivate Hammer. Thanks again
@ums3857
@ums3857 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great video! I was struggling with my horse, learn a lot of this. Still one question my horse is not really bother about the whip. As soon i want to use the whip je doesn't care. He still reacts real slow. He will do a circle when I ask but everything goes real slow. But when he is on his own he is full of energy and moves easily and fast
@JavierBonillaC
@JavierBonillaC Жыл бұрын
"That's not normal on Friessians"? In my experience they are on the slow plow horse but I may be wrong.
@siannevautour8659
@siannevautour8659 Жыл бұрын
What do you do if they don't respond to the stick ? Our Morgan doesn't care at all if you tap or hit him with it .
@jvnd2785
@jvnd2785 Жыл бұрын
I have a mule like that. Mules are generally stubborn but my Winston is stubborn and sassy at the same time (I still love that bugger! lol). He doesn't respond to the stick when tapped...but I have learned that he gets moving if I hit the ground with the stick. It's the sound of the rope/leather hitting the ground that makes him realize it's time to move those legs. Don't hit him- he will loose all the fear and respect.
@birdsnesttb
@birdsnesttb 3 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic help, and I think this horse is similar to one of our mares, a 6 year old Appaloosa who does not move off pressure at all. She is such a sweet girl, we dont know her history, but she usually just shuts down when we try to get her moving., both on the ground and in the saddle. I am backing up and trying short sessions to get her more activated, but would love any other tips for a horse that just stops on the lunge line and under saddle.. tapping her doesn't make a difference, whacking the flag behind her is nothing to her... I do small circles to start and get her to move by staying by her side, but she just does not go, on the ground or under saddle she is very lazy and gets grumpy when we try to move her forward. She is a very unusual horse, and I just want to get her feeling like being a good partner for those of us who want to ride her. I think she has softness to her, and I cant tell if she is just shut down from previous owners or if there is something else that im missing. She has laid down on two people trying to get her to move forward under saddle. Any widsom would be appreciated!
@amp18life
@amp18life Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful! I am relatively new (2 years) to riding. My horse likes to stop walking on the short trail ride (1/4 mile) to the end of the unpaved driveway at the farm and back. I learned from a previous trainer that he used to buck his rider off (bad behavior and severe attitude) instead of go as expected. It makes me not push him when he stops. I am going to need to try all these drills in the round pen.I don't actually think he has a mean bone in his body just - lazy & sometimes bossy. I love my boy and he is great while I am on the ground. What's the best video you have for me to learn to trot , lope and gallop? Thanks Ken for all your videos!
@patricialeighty1614
@patricialeighty1614 9 ай бұрын
My 14yrold QH does the same thing. When he stops, I start circling, bending and flexing him. Then walk out. If he stops again we go back at it..he has or is learning not to stop until asked. Ive not had him buck again with this technique. Am I doing right Mr McNab?
@amberscott9760
@amberscott9760 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of a training video or comment /suggestions on what to do with a horse who snatches grass and once heads down will refuse to trail ride ? Help appreciated love this video ❤
@juliehambrook4006
@juliehambrook4006 6 ай бұрын
Grass reins when you ride so you can keep riding and ground work to teach respect Never let him in your space uninvited, don’t let him graze when in hand or working with him and get control of his feet, first when you are on the ground. Your horse has no respect for you and you need to gain it. Never feed from your hand. A horse has no respect for anyone when he can take their food from them. He needs teaching this in a way HE can understand without temper or pain. There’s lots on KZfaq on how to do this.
@shaunacreamer4981
@shaunacreamer4981 3 ай бұрын
This guy is the one person who uses a crop/whip correctly
@Apb23
@Apb23 10 ай бұрын
Pretty funny… when you speak for the horse, “This horse is saying, ‘Ken, you don’t realize ….’” 17:40 😂
@dirkkuerschnerpeasantfield8913
@dirkkuerschnerpeasantfield8913 Жыл бұрын
Is it wrong to ride these type of horses out in bigger paddocks? I've had some more cold blooded horses, that are lazy when I start them, I've always just ridden in a big field and let them feel like their getting somewhere..
@chicbarrelracer4552
@chicbarrelracer4552 10 ай бұрын
Yes that works for my lazy morganX QH, he’s super slow and doesn’t like working in an arena or round pen but as soon as he’s in a field he’s a fricking rocket donkey 😂
@lorrainemallon9793
@lorrainemallon9793 Ай бұрын
My 4 year old needs to learn this she knows how to go forward and understands but she is lazy and rather go slow
@sly82baldazo15
@sly82baldazo15 Жыл бұрын
Love the video ! I have the exact same problem with my three year old azteca he’s super lazy 😅😅
@alicecunningham3937
@alicecunningham3937 Жыл бұрын
When asking for the trot, are you only kissing or are you applying leg with either pressure or a kick as well? My horse goes forward at the walk, but always hesitates to trot or canter (unless he feels like it)
@jairvieira7871
@jairvieira7871 Жыл бұрын
Transformar.em.portugueis
@kennedy3636
@kennedy3636 Жыл бұрын
What if the horse doesn’t move/react when you use the whip on the ground?
@chicbarrelracer4552
@chicbarrelracer4552 10 ай бұрын
What has worked for me with that in a filly I was training was give the horse a little tap on the butt, let them know you mean business
@goldenyearsacres9163
@goldenyearsacres9163 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised when you said he is a fresian. I kind of thought maybe he was a percheron cross. I have a percheron mare who looks similar to him. I have never seen a fresian in person, so not real clear on how the 2 breeds differ.
@kenmorris2290
@kenmorris2290 Жыл бұрын
He's the old (Baroque) style Fresian (shorter legged, wider), which is quite rare these days. I met a pair of them about 20 years ago and haven't seen any since. I The modern Fresians are taller, narrower through the chest--and hotter (more energetic) too. The old style Fresian has a calmer disposition and is more of an "energy conserver"...which some folks call "lazy." It's actually a nice quality in a working horse, once they have learned to bring up their energy (it's a learned skill, and they will need a reason for it.) But they come back down easily from excitementand have what I call an "on-off" switch. The Baroque style Fresian is very much like the Canadian Horse in both looks temperament (I would have guessed this horse was a Canadian.)
@goldenyearsacres9163
@goldenyearsacres9163 Жыл бұрын
@Ken Morris Very interesting information. Thanks for shining a spotlight on the Canadian Horse. Being unfamiliar to that breed, I did a little "digital digging" to learn more about the breed. I am fairly new to owning horses, so I am trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can to be a responsible owner. Thank you. My hubby & I watch your training videos on television as well. I love how you marry your faith with your horsemanship. Proverbs 12:10. A righteous man regards the life of his animal...
@Apb23
@Apb23 Жыл бұрын
I would love if you could help me with my draft. She is dominant and won’t do a circle in the round pen. I did spank her once and she pinned her ears and one time started to come toward me. I yelled a deep “no!” At her and she turned away, but I’m nervous to continue. What should I do?
@kenmorris2290
@kenmorris2290 Жыл бұрын
"I'm nervous to continue" means your inner voice is warning you away from a dangerous situation. Listen to it. A horse that comes at you is dangerous. I would highly recommend getting help from an experienced horseman.
@Apb23
@Apb23 Жыл бұрын
@@kenmorris2290 thank you, I will. 💗
@Apb23
@Apb23 10 ай бұрын
She’s doing much better now that I have a coach who can help me with her! But I’m enjoying learning from this video again.
@juanitaburt5281
@juanitaburt5281 Жыл бұрын
I like this technique, will try it with my horse. How do you wean him from the clucking, cos voice command isn’t allowed in a dressage tests
@lynd4852
@lynd4852 Жыл бұрын
I've found giving my lazy horse time off is not a good thing. He needs short frequently works to keep his head in the game.
@TheHeliosandro
@TheHeliosandro 2 жыл бұрын
what breed is this horse
@epona9166
@epona9166 Жыл бұрын
He mentioned in video it's a Friesian.
@annietully-watts
@annietully-watts 4 ай бұрын
I cannot watch this :( How can this had lots of good training as you said if he has all of these issues!!!!!!
@xxxsunday08
@xxxsunday08 10 ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of work to keep him moving at a lope
@cjjohnson8207
@cjjohnson8207 6 ай бұрын
My horse will stop and back up he even will back up to boulders or drain gullies and fall in.
@mountwest5302
@mountwest5302 2 ай бұрын
My mare is L A Z Y and then gets grumpy not fun She looks just like him
@RedHybiscus
@RedHybiscus 2 жыл бұрын
The ONLY reason a Friesian would be “lazy” is because of bad training. Period. End of discussion
@cdeer2710
@cdeer2710 2 жыл бұрын
Se horses have personality or just don't wanna work!
@lyssue386
@lyssue386 Ай бұрын
Absolutely not 😂 every horse is an individual. My friesian X is VERY different to work than my QH and Arab and not forward thinking. She is however very safe and fun
@zamzar2
@zamzar2 2 жыл бұрын
..... so is a grumpy Frisian unusual
@ariannahills9604
@ariannahills9604 Жыл бұрын
So to sum it up my girl isn’t lazy she’s stubborn lol
@mariacowley342
@mariacowley342 11 ай бұрын
He's kicking at you because you're hitting him, that's not horsemanship at all 😡
@carolinehoward180
@carolinehoward180 2 жыл бұрын
He dislikes YOU
@gerrycoleman7290
@gerrycoleman7290 2 жыл бұрын
Don't blame the horse. The horse is not lazy.
@josephinestecak4945
@josephinestecak4945 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the horse is not lazy, he is a nice quiet horse who is being unneccessarily bullied. Why do people get a nice safe horse and then complain because it will not perform like thoroughbred racehorse. Let someone have the horse who wants a quiet hack and get themselves a sharp horse? Then they will complain about it being too sharp, you can't please some people!
@moisesgarcia1495
@moisesgarcia1495 2 жыл бұрын
He needs lateral movement on bosal!hack more for gringos!
@slayoid
@slayoid Жыл бұрын
Actually, you're not riding him so you don't know how the horse act, it may look like he's not lazy on the video, because some professional is riding him. I wanna see you riding the horse you don't know
@gerrycoleman7290
@gerrycoleman7290 Жыл бұрын
@@slayoid The horse is 'talking'. Are people listening? It is not the horse. It is not a horse problem. It is a people problem.
@Sistachicksbarrelracing2023
@Sistachicksbarrelracing2023 3 ай бұрын
He doesn’t mean completely lazy. He means a bit stubborn, and doesn’t have the motivation to work or ride like he was trained to.
@ddunning6207
@ddunning6207 Жыл бұрын
Um, opening clip of loping downhill in rocky terrain, then let this horse come up and push you over. Ya, not a good start. Hard pass on this "Horsemanship". Anyone can call themselves a 'trainer'...
@houstonbrown3450
@houstonbrown3450 Жыл бұрын
I have a 6 yr old walking horse,he refuses to longe for me,,I use the poles ,with string ,and the whip with flag ,nothing
@JavierBonillaC
@JavierBonillaC Жыл бұрын
"That's not normal on Friessians"? In my experience they are on the slow plow horse but I may be wrong.
@shylohsturm493
@shylohsturm493 Жыл бұрын
Friesians are more of a fancy cart horse or war horse than many draft horses that are used for plowing and pulling heavy loads. So they usually have a bit more energy and movement that other draft breeds. But less than a quarter horse etc.
@casdragon_5939
@casdragon_5939 7 ай бұрын
they were bred to be war horses and literally gallop into battle carrying knights lol
@bethje30
@bethje30 5 ай бұрын
They where fancy farmhorses, strong enough to work and pretty enough to take the family to church on Sunday. The original friesians where quite heavy and calm. The fire was bred into it later. Hercules is more the calm heavy kind. He is beautiful. There are quick Friesians but also very calm ones. I rode a very cool heavy Frisian mare for a few years.
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