Good morning Gereon, thanks very much for your comments - glad it helped with a very difficult decision! I think the Street Twin is a fabulous bike, it’s a modern bike made to look old (and nothing wrong with that) while the Guzzi is an old bike brought up to date - which for me was quite important as I wanted a semi-classic vibe, but didn’t want the hassle of something leaky or not practical and functional. Luckily the Guzzi fulfils the brief perfectly and I’m sure you’ll enjoy yours. Anyway, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Evening Songklod, that’s exactly my experience also...It’s a brilliant little tourer and dare I say it, rather cool in a quiet understated way. Mine is rock solid also, love it and I’ll be riding it when I’m 75 😀 Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Rob - it was a labour of love 😀 Thanks for tuning in and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Morning Farshad! Really really hope you continue to enjoy your V7 Carbon...I’ll feel terrible if you don’t! Glad you enjoyed the video though and thanks for taking the time to stop by and comment, cheers, Phil.

I bought the V7III Carbon Dark. Much improved over my '10 Cafe Classic. I got 0009 of 1921. This bike is a keeper.

Hey Mike, thanks for stopping by and hope you’re well. Yeah, there’s definitely something about Moto Guzzi’s and the connection to the bike, as you say, is mechanically and aurally visceral - I really know when I’m riding it right and it rewards with smooth handling, lovely gear changes and a kind of clockwork thrumming sound 😀 Shame it took me 30 years to get one! That’s some collection of bikes you’ve had there though Mike - Zundapp! Blimey! And likewise with Harley’s…..I did like those Morini 🐪 🐪 when they came out and I still look 3.5s every so often. If only the garage, funds and time could cope though. Right, must dash, hope all is well where you Mike, cheers, Phil.

Hmm...Good theory...although at 20 I was riding a GPZ900 and I’ve really gone off inline fours these days (they make my hands go numb)...Perhaps the theory can work in the inverse?

But yes, the Guzzi is magical - it has enough of everything and is totally charming. I can see me riding it when 75 😄

Yes David, the singles and vertical twins of the day had their inherent vibration, the Japanese introduced counter balancers to reduce vibration in twins, Triumph and BSA brought in the triples, which produced more power but also reduced, or rather changed the vibes to a new frequency lol. BMWs were beyond the pocket of most working blokes, and the young "rockers" wanted Triumphs and Nortons, so beemers were seen as a "toffs" bike where I grew up, Fast forward 18 years or so and having had a number of Japanese fours (including a Rickman Z900) I looked at the BMW R100RS or the new Guzzi Spada, I sensed a bit of a sneer from the BMW salesman when I turned up on my Rickman, but at the guzzi dealers, Twig Forrest, the boss, said "bloody hell, you'd better take the Spada for the weekend after riding that". Less than a mile from the dealers, I was sold, many miles in all weather were ridden on the Spada.

@@80eightReviews 5K rpm, the UJM inline four vibespot, leading to "whitefinger" or Raynauds syndrome if you were posh, All bikes have a degree of vibration I suppose, just different frequencies, I suppose todays machines are all balanced etc, I despair of some of todays motorcyclists who, if they try a guzzi/harley etc say "its lumpy" or it vibrates, the other comment is that there buffeting from the wind- thats because its a motorcycle not a car.

These days I much prefer 'touring' on a bike with no fairing, even in bad weather. Kit is so much better than it used to be + it feels much more elemental. Also I guess, with age, I'm not particularly minded to sit behind a fairing at 100 mph for hours on end. Old fart? Possibly :-)

Evening Stephen - I think you have chosen the perfect adjective there “engaging” where that is nothing about speed or handling just how you feel on the bike. And that it is also so capable and practical is a rare achievement. For me it is the bike I can see myself riding until I can ride no more and perhaps that is where the life affirming aspect comes in. Thanks so much for stopping by and what a brilliant few weeks of expectation you have in store. Hope all goes well, cheers, Phil.

Test ride was convincing for me also, placed the order right after, got my prefered color (red) and ride it since June 18! What a great and unique bike, don't see much of there around here (Qc, Canada)

Thanks - good to know the work is appreciated! And yeah, if you’ve just sold your Bonneville, a Guzzi would fill the gap perfectly. Peace back to you from the East coast (of the UK), cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Why would You chose air cooled Guzzi over Triumph. I want to buy a first motorcycle. Im really into "scramblers", of course street scrambler from Triumph comes up to my mind, cus Ducati is air cooled. Any other options? Sry for my potato english :D. Nice vid BTW. Edit. I really like the fuel tank in Guzzi. I dont understand why Street Scrambler has pathetic 13l. Im planing to do some long ass trip alone (yeah great idea as a fresh moto guy) and thats bother me a bit. Since last week i spend average 2 hours a day to read. I come from HD Dyna Low Rider to Kawasaki 800w then back to Triumph :D

Good morning David, hmmm...There are a lot of eccentric Englishman where I live - usually characterised by wayward / asymmetrical haircuts, mustard coloured trousers and slightly bloodshot eyes :-) In terms of addresses, well, just down the road from me we've got 'Foul Ford' & 'Oil Mill Lane' and round the corner 'Love Lane'...Not sure what goes on there..Also, my dad was called Derek! Anyway, good to know there are committed Anglophiles across the water! Personally, I'm obsessed by the visual vocabulary of the great American Movie, surburbia, filling stations, motels, the heat haze on deserted roads, cops hiding behind billboards (Do they actually do that?)...So the feeling is mutual! Lewis Leathers...That takes me back - I had one of their jackets years ago, thick, squeaky with a lovely red lining. You've also piqued my curiosity so I'm going to check the post code now! However, many thanks for your interesting comments (that seems too little a word to describe your text) & it's good to know the video works outside of my little UK bubble, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

I also ride a GB 500 Honda that I bought new (looks like a classic British single), and I have an old photo of me on it wearing a safari bush jacket, zulu pith helmet, wool fingerless gloves, a box of Constant Comment tea sitting on the tank, and me proffering a cup of tea to the person taking the snapshot. The location was southern Idaho. But I had to doff the pith helmet and put on a helmet to actually ride legally, and anyway the pith helmet would have blown off. And if I am really being honest, I must admit that I plagiarized the "Slyding-On-The-Bannister" name from Michael Shuter, who wrote a humorous monthly column called The Downhill Straight in Cycle Magazine in the late 1960s and early 70s. I don't know why the address for Lewis Leathers would stick in my head, but I think it was Lewis Leathers Ltd, 123 Gt. Portland St., London, W1A2DL, not WA12DL. Check and let me know if I am right. All you have to do is check out the ads in one of issues of your old bike mags. You do have a stack of them, no? Even if I am wrong, at least I am trying.

Morning David, ok, I agree completely with your children 😀 And a GB500...Very nice! Must dash, I need to don tweed and monocle and head off for work on my penny farthing....Cheers, Phil.

Thanks - glad you liked the review! Yes, the Guzzi is a lovely little thing - charmingly visceral and a ton of easy fun. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Colin, great to know you enjoyed the video and I’m sure you’ll have an absolute blast on the Rough. Such a beautiful and fun bike to ride, own and just to be kinda proud of. Hope all is well where you are, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hey Ed, thanks for stopping by and I’m glad you enjoyed the review. Even better you’ve gone and bought one - brilliant! I really hope you like it! Let me know how you get on, all the best, Phil.

Good morning from the UK David. Many thanks for your kind comments and good to know the video is appreciated across continents. Let’s hope the entente-cordiale continues during The Ashes 😀 Cracking century by Smith (unfortunately!) Cheers, Phil.

Thanks Craig, that’s really good to know. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, much appreciated, cheers, Phil.

Hey Ryan, greetings from Northumberland, UK! Many thanks for your kind comments - very much appreciated. It’s good to know the Guzzi is weaving its emotional magic elsewhere 😀 As for the tyres, I now realise that when I had a test ride, the demo bike wasn’t fitted with the Pirelli’s, so you can imagine my shock when picking my own bike up and riding it 60 miles home. I thought I’d made a big mistake...My wife asked me how it was and I kinda found myself making up excuses for it...The BT’s totally transform it though and seem to be wearing very well. Anyway thanks for watching, taking the time to stop by and safe riding in the US, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews I forgot to ask what sizes you got for your tires. I found a front that's an exact match to the stock, but couldn't find an exact for the rear. If you could provide the sizes you used, I'd much appreciate it. Thanks again!

Morning Ryan - I got these fitted (BT-45's) and they totally transform the feel compared to the Pirelli's - can't recommend them enough, hope that helps, cheers, Phil. Front tyre: 100/ 90 18 56V Rear tyre: 130/ 80 17 65H

80:8 Photography & Design Thank you sir! Spring cannot come soon enough!

Evening Steve, thanks for your kind comments. I decided with my last 3 videos to treat them as I would a music video / quick cuts / a tight edit / use only the best shots / remove all waste. Complete madness of course - as 6 minutes takes 16 weeks, but it’s all good fun 😀 Anyway, thanks for watching and for taking the time to stop by, cheers, Phil.

80:8 Photography & Design Thoroughly agree with you, quality vs. quantity and it comes through, big time. Your post was also quite poignant as I too have recently ventured from Hull to Zeebrugge, the first time on this route and noted several bikes making their way to and from Belgium . Back in the late 70’s we, for a few years, ventured south on two wheels from Tyneside and crossed the channel to Calais for some welcome sun on our backs and, like you, reading long-hand directions stuck to tank bags. If only I’d kept that Z900. Still, my current Ducati Scrambler gets me around the North Yorks Moors. Keep up the good work and best wishes.

Thanks again Steve and yeah, GPS is overrated! Cheers, Phil.

Gosh, thanks Philip. Genuinely good to know the review was of some use. The BT45’s, without exaggeration were a game changer. The bike was still great fun with the Pirelli’s but they didn’t inspire total confidence and while I’m sure they wouldn’t cause any real problems, tyres are very much about feel. Also thanks for the tip about the centre stand - will definitely consider one. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Evening James, it’s good to know the work is appreciated...Although, to call riding around on a Guzzi, in the sunshine and occasionally pointing a camera at it is probably stretching the definition of work somewhat 😀 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Hey Simon - it certainly is. Roll on summer, cheers, Phil.

Thanks! Steal away 😀 Cheers, Phil.

Thanks, good to know the work is appreciated! The Guzzi is a special little bike, so it gets special treatment 😄 Thanks for the sub & for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Hope the ride was good! And thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks for the feedback! I’ll try! Cheers, Phil.

Totally agree / I’m stocking up in my bunker ready for the apocalypse / zombie invasion / plague of frogs etc. Not quite sure how I’ll feel after 3 months on a custard cream diet so I might mix it up with a garibaldi or two. Thanks for watching! Cheers, Phil.

Hello! Well, you’ve picked up on one of the reasons why the Guzzi experience is so rewarding - it’s a non-aggressive, friendly looking machine that is almost the epitome of what a motorcycle should look like. Whenever I’m cleaning the bike outside my house, I get loads of comments from non-motorcyclists who just love the way it looks and want to talk about it. I think it’s got that sense of traditional mechanical style, similar to an old steam engine, which means you don’t really need to be an enthusiast to appreciate it. Let’s face it - a loud, snarling sports bike, just makes people feel threatened and annoyed. The Guzzi though, just wants to be everyone’s friend! Hope your dad is enjoying his new bike and hope all is well where you are. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Morning Xavi - very good to know the two videos have been helpful. And you’re going to buy one? Wow! I like a bit of speed and power as much as anyone, but as you suggest, 50 horsepower in a light, easy to ride bike on the right roads is brilliant fun and more than enough. For me it’s about getting the most out of a bike - personally I can’t do that on a Fireblade for example (though others can) but on the Guzzi I feel I’m using all of it and that’s a nice feeling - even if the suspension is a bit crashy. That’s all part of the fun though! Funny you mention riding it at 70....this is definitely my retirement bike and I think with a patina of age on it, it’s going to look even more beautiful and will be even more different. Let me know how you get on and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

A couple of weeks ago I went for a test ride and, unfortunately, the lack of power was determinant to not to buy probably one of the most beautiful bikes ever. Instead I purchased a Triumph Bonneville T120. Thank you anyway and ride safely.

Hey Xavi, well, you’re not going to go wrong with a T120. Even so, given your description of the Guzzi, I reckon there’s going to be one in your life at some point...It’s just a question of timing 😄After all it took me 30 years of thinking about Guzzi’s before actually getting one. Anyway hope you enjoy the T120, cheers, Phil.

I had a T120 and rode a V7 111 back to back.To be honest the V7 didn't feel much slower.The Triumph felt more solid and composed though.The V7 111 is quite a big improvement on the version one and two I think.

Hey Guy, thanks for the kind and interesting comments. If you are looking for an antidote to effortless efficiency, then the V7 would do the job perfectly. And that’s not to say it isn’t practical or reliable - it certainly is, however there is very much the sense of having to think about how best to ride it, in order to get the best out of it. And even better, if you don’t feel like that - a gentle thrum and rattle around the countryside is just as enjoyable. No pressure to perform and no devil on your shoulder urging you to try out 170HP. There’s something about 50HP and light weight which really hits the sweet spot. There is much value in simplicity I think, although it’s difficult to put it exactly into words. I think you know though! Give in to the temptation Guy 😄 !!! Interested to hear about your V9 - I’m sort of semi keen on them. What’s the handling like? I’ve heard it can be a little vague? Anyway, thanks for stopping by...With an RT and V7 in the garage you’ve got two disparate machines with completely different riding experiences...Now if that isn’t something to look forward to after lockdown finishes, I don’t know is...Sorry 😄 Cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Hey Phil, Thanks for your guidance as you have hit the nail squarely on the head! The V7 will be the perfect antidote! I am waiting with bated breath to hear back from my local Moto Guzzi dealer who is advertising a very smart low mileage V7 iii Stone Night Pack model. I like the bright LED headlight for safety reasons. You are absolutely right about the V9's vague handling which I put down to a combination of poor quality front and rear suspension, fat balloon style tyres, forward mounted footrests and forward mounted handlebars. I got to work and replaced the standard front fork internals with fully adjustable ones from Matrix, rear suspension dampers with "Wide Big Body" models purchased from Baak. who also supplied a kit that enabled the footrests to be mounted approx. three inches further back. I replaced the straight handlebars with Baak's "Number One" design which provided an aesthetically pleasing swept back look to the bike. The above modifications certainly made a significant difference to the overall handling, comfort and control and the bike which became a joy to ride. Looking back I’m not sure why I sold it! I have just opened up a Flikr account and loaded on three photos to give you an idea of how it looked. You will see it had the V7 Special tank and V7 seat. Hopefully the link below will work! www.flickr.com/photos/188295058@N07/ Cheers, Guy

Afternoon Guy, I agree! Why did you sell the V9!! It looks completely amazing! In terms of comparisons with the V7, well, you've still got basic suspension, however, everything else you mentioned as a negative on the V9, is not a problem on the V7 - so I'm sure you'll be just fine. And as for the suspension, it's just a question of riding around it - the handling per-se isn't compromised, but hitting a sharp edged bump can bounce you out of the seat - however, it stays mostly on line. Hope all goes well with the Stone / The night pack is particularly delicious! Thanks for stopping by again & great photo's. Will be keen to get your feedback of how the V7 engine compares to the V9 - in my idle time a V9 Bobber Sport is getting me a bit excited. Still don't like the look of the tyre though :-) Cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Good afternoon Phil, I sold the V9 because I have an 80 mile daily commute and it made sense to split the mileage between the R1250RT and another bike. I didn't find the V9 suited to regular motorway commuting especially with the congestion and poor lane discipline of the many car drivers I encountered. I part exchanged the V9 against a low mileage XT1200ZE which proved perfect for the purpose however employer recently announced they changed their policy about providing motorcycling parking which means I have to use the car, not ideal as a significant part of my commute is on the M25. Before watching your review the other Moto Guzzi I considered was the V85 TT! Best regards Guy

Afternoon Guy - ah! Makes perfect sense! Not sure if I would fancy a V9 with that balloon front tyre on the M25 either! The V7 will be just fine & lane switching / car weaving will (almost) be enjoyable. As for the V85 - yes, I'd love to have a go of one and personally, I think the red/yellow one looks is eye-catching and really quite nice. Choices, choices! Cheers, Phil.

Morning Thomas, thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave a lot of information for taller riders (I don’t have that problem!)...Cheers, Phil.

Great review! Also good to hear from someone as tall as me, i am also 194cm. Thinking of buying a V7, for regular riding but also touring.

Good morning - good to know you enjoyed the video, thanks. Not sure when the next video is coming out of course, but I’ve got a new bike which I’m desperate to ride and film! Fingers crossed it’s not too far away. Hope things are not too bad where you are and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks very much! My trip had to be cut short by four days and I’d already made arrangements in Switzerland, hence the mad dash! Otherwise yeah, d roads all the way with a crumpled up paper map, so guaranteed to get lost and find somewhere interesting 😀 France is brilliant, very jealous! As for V-Twin’s...Couldn’t agree more, one reason being that I’ve never had white finger on the Guzzi...While a four or a triple always brings it on. Anyway, thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment, much appreciated, cheers, Phil.

Good afternoon Peter, isn’t it odd that even a short trip between York and Northumberland now feels unimaginable and almost exotic...Some interesting trips you’ve done on your previous Guzzi’s. I’ve done similar trips to Morocco, Turkey, Syria and Lebanon and finally made it to Jordan and Egypt for the all important motorbike in front of Petra and Pyramids shot. Loved Turkey - huge country, wildly disparate scenery - especially loved the Black Sea coast. Unlike you I put my faith in Japanese machinery - DR350 and a XR600, both of which were brilliant. And simple - just like the V7. So reliability - I’ve done around 7000 miles on the V7 so far - I was planning another trip this year but that will have to wait. Despite that the bike has been completely solid - oil tight engine and shaft drive, no electrical or fuelling issues - it doesn’t even seem to use oil. It’s built to a simple yet overall good standard. There’s nothing flash in any of the finishes but it all seems quite robust. The engine paint is still 100% intact, no rust and nothing has fallen off! I was a little concerned when I first got it - obviously being aware of their reputation in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, but now I trust it and would certainly (and will) take it on many more long trips. It feels well put together - not shonky at all and there are tales of folk doing huge mileages on them. I get white finger really easily - especially in 4 cylinder bikes - on the Guzzi, even when I was sat in the saddle for 8 hours thrumming my way over to Switzerland a few years back, I felt nothing - once the engine is spinning it really smooths out. The traction control is rubbish though - very intrusive, so now I just switch it off before every ride, which is easy enough to do by pressing the starter again once the engine is running. I’ve ridden the V7II and would say the III offers a bit more power and improved handling and it hasn’t got the old heron head - so would be the one worth getting. Anyway, hope that helps a bit, hope all is well in York...And thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Oh, the suspension is pretty basic - not much damping and quite harsh - mechanically it’s fine though...I’ve just got used to watching out for bumps and lifting myself up out of the saddle as required!

Thanks very much - really appreciate your kind comments and glad you enjoyed the review. Gosh, that video seems like years ago! Hope all is well where you are, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Good evening John, thanks for your comments and good to know you enjoyed the review - your trip sounds fabulous. As for finding neutral - to be honest I’m kind of aware of it and deal with it by coming to a stop with the clutch in, snicking it up to neutral and letting the clutch out a fraction to see if I’ve got it. Muscle memory means I get it right 8 times out of 10 and I don’t really bother with the dials. When I first got the bike I had the opposite issue in that neutral to 1st is so soft I couldn’t quite believe it was in first! I don’t think you’ve got a problem with your bike and I’d put it down to a general Guzzi quirk. Rather like when I first discovered that changing down and dropping the clutch quickly wasn’t a good idea 😀 This was after being used to a slipper clutch on Ducati....Anyway, hope that helps, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hey Guy, good to hear from you and good to know the video is appreciated. While I would never anthropomorphise a mere machine, you're right in that Guzzi fulfils a number of traits, that we as humans value. It's reliable, always puts a smile on my face, makes a nice sound and looks good. Also, I never feel as though I need to ride it according to the biking societal norms (which I try to ignore anyway) - it's not about speed. It's about being outside, enjoying the environment and the feeling of being pleasantly in control. Add to that it's incredibly practical and it's pretty much all I need. If you had fond memories of a 1970's R80 I think you and a Guzzi V7 would get on just fine. As you suggest though, it's always good to try new things and experiences - hence my XSR900 (or a new Tiger 900) - which will be a blast for a few years, but will get replaced at some point. Scotland is great and over on the East Coast (where I am) Northumbria is a lovely and quiet place to ride and I'm very impressed with your knowledge of Northern England! And yes, likewise - I'm looking forward to a semblance of normality at some point. I read a lot about NYC but if any city or its residents could be described as a force of nature & a resilient one at that - then it's there. Hope things improve soon...Thanks for stopping by, Cheers, Phil.

Thanks Jean-Paul! Good to know the effort is appreciated! Thanks for watching and taking the time to stop by, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Matt! Of course there is a school of thought that says dunking a biscuit with a filling is in someways inappropriate, but you know, if it works for you, then why not 😄 Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews As I'm sure you'll appreciate, custard creams take a certain amount of skill to dunk successfully, given the different absorption rates and associated sheer values of biscuit and filling! Thanks again for your informative and visually engaging videos - a proper treat 👏

Hey Steve, thanks for dropping by and great to know you enjoyed the video. The main benefit the 850 has now, is that it’s now got a decent turn of speed / acceleration - obviously not a match for your KTM but more than enough to hold your own with traffic and provide a bit of excitement. Even then, the old model was perfectly happy all day at 85mph so if touring is your use case, the 850 will be just fine. And you get shaft drive, well over 200 miles to tank and the sheer smile in your helmet loveliness of owning a Guzzi! Let me know what you decide, hope all is well with you, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Phil. I need to get a test ride. May take a while but I'll let you know if I pull the trigger. Keep up the great work on the vids.

Thanks Peter! 30 years? Blimey...As for your summation of validation...I couldn’t have put it better myself. Great jacket the Merlin and a great price. Thanks for watching and hope you have a great summer on the Spada, cheers, Phil.

Hello again! Ah! I didn’t know that - yet, oddly enough, having just looked up the shoe (as you do) I’ve owned several pairs 😀 Thanks for clearing up a possibly embarrassing misinterpretation - folk could be very confused thinking a great way of carrying luggage on a Guzzi, is in your shoe 😀 Have a good day, cheers, Phil.

Hey Mitch, how are you doing? Good to hear the V9 is working out for you. As for the Dalek, well, I thought everyone had one actually 😄 I might bring the cyberman out next time...All good here thanks, just gearing up for winter with a pair of heated gloves - wish I had bought some years ago. Anyway thanks for stopping by (again) Mitch, cheers, Phil.

All good... winter not much of a worry over here I live in the mountains so it may snow but mostly sunny nice weather ... maybe 20 -30 days of wet weather... all year!!! Just like the Britain.... 😉 BTW I’ve got a cyberman and a tardis of course!!!

You’ve got a Tardis? Slightly jealous now....Anyway based on this conversation, the next video (don’t hold your breath though) is going to feature my ‘special’ Dalek quite strongly - this one hasn’t been featured in any videos yet as it only comes out for special occasions. I’ll have to think of some spurious reason for including it though 😀 Have a good day, cheers, Phil.

Hello and good morning - thanks for stopping by. Yeah, I was very pleasantly surprised when it all worked out so perfectly and easily. I didn't really want to bolt anything to the bike plus take 30 minutes to secure soft luggage always annoys me, so just using the seat to keep everything safe was brilliant. I haven't tried them with the 850 yet but I'm sure they'll work fine. Hope all is well where you are, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Great minds think alike!

Yesterday, I looked at 3 V7's. A 750cc 2016 Stone, & two brand new V7 850cc Specials. I can't decide!?!?!? The 750 is about $3,000 less than the new ones, and it has very low miles. My research is continuing!

Good luck!

@@80eightReviews Settled on the 2016. The #1 reason is max torque starts at 2800 rpm. The 2021 850cc bikes produce about the same ft/lbs in that rev range, but also weigh more. And, max torque is developed at closer to 5k rpm. I'm old now. No racing around. I'm happy to upshift at 5k to 5.5k rpm. The 850 would be telling me "rev higher, go faster!" Can't wait for a rain storm to wash all the salt off of the roads so I can try it out!

Morning Mark, thanks for your comments - it’s my own bike so total honesty is guaranteed 😀 Good to know you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Mark, I think you’ll find a V7 (perhaps the 850) version, a very positive reminder and echo of your T3, up to date but at the same time with a clear and obvious lineage. Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Tom, glad you enjoyed it. I find the V7 not only super lovely to look at, it’s a ton of fun to ride, so easy to get on with and so incredibly useful and practical. And it rattled and rolls. It never fails to make me smile. Let me know how the thinking goes! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Great review ... also thinking about buying one.

Ha ha Don't ask me how I came up with the analogy :-) Thanks for watching and for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Hey Gary, I couldn’t agree more - classic, understated and not trying too hard...of course I spoil it completely when I get on board though 😀 thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hello! Thanks for your kind comments - much appreciated! I too was a young idiot once...19 years old with a GPZ900R complete with a 16” front wheel. I remember it well. I think. The Guzzi is a lovely thing, by rights it shouldn’t really work and in many ways it’s an anachronism...However, it has a gorgeous blend of practicality, loveliness and quark, strangeness and charm. Also it really makes you think about your riding and how you read the road. I’m smitten - but you probably guessed that. Calm voice? Blimey...a product of state education and a poor 70’s diet probably 😀 Thanks for stopping by! Cheers, Phil.

Morning Richard, well, the T120 is a fabulous bike and of course has a lot more power than the V7, however, I must say that I never feel like the Guzzi is too slow or anything - it’s really quite sprightly, can cruise at over 80mph with enough in hand for overtaking. The experience of the Guzzi is all about the roll and rumble of that air cooled engine, it’s a total delight. And, yes, shaft drive is brilliant - while it means you have to finesse the clutch when changing down, again, that’s all part of the experience. No issues with mine so far and no corrosion. Love it. Hope that helps 😇 and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

To me the V7 are a lot smoother than the T120. The Bonneville is a beautiful bike but it feels heavier, less agile and the engine has more character. (I have owned both bikes for several years). Regards

Smoother? Wow - I wouldn’t have guessed that - although you’re probably right as the V7 smooths out beautifully once’s it’s going. Agile...great word, totally agree...Sounds like the T120 might be going! Cheers, Phil.

Good evening Mike, thanks for your kind comments and it’s good to know the review is appreciated. The V7 is definitely more than the sum of its parts and spec...it’s a bike that makes you smile and is extremely capable and characterful. My keeper for life! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Endo, glad you enjoyed the review and yes, you must own a Guzzi at some point in your life! And you won’t go far wrong with either version of the bike to be honest. Let me know how you get on, cheers, Phil.

Good morning! Choices, choices...😀 Apologies for the custard cream incident - I’d like to say it survived to be scoffed another day but I’d be lying. Although the scrambler and the Guzzi are very close spec wise and also in terms of visual loveliness - the Guzzi is going to ride a little more old school than the Triumph. And as for what’s better that’s purely subjective...you’ll just have to try one! Anyway thanks for tuning in and taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Hello Sean, the blue ones with the silver stripe are absolutely lovely - great choice! Before owning the V7 I must admit I was a bit nervous about reliability, but after doing the trip to The Alps, I’ve now got that feeling it’s just going to go on and on with no problems. It’s a simple and charming machine, just love it. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Sean, I own a Special and I love it, had it for 2000K so far. They are great bikes, lots of character, but personally I've put some Mistral short slip ons on the bike for better sound and performance. If you are doing lot's of town riding the clutch is a bit of a pain and finding 2nd gear can be hard - a tight clutch is key, probably tighter than the usual 0.6mm. But a major downside of the Guzzi brand is aftermarket parts, they aren't catered for in the UK anyway and the Guzzi branded parts are a rip off. If you go for it browse the accessories catalog first & write down what you would like and haggle hard with the dealer for extra thrown in. Otherwise riding the bike brings as smile everyday.

Good morning from the UK! Glad you enjoyed the video and as for the bags, they’re an old set of ‘Oxford Sports Panniers’ that I’ve had for ages. This exact model isn’t available anymore but there are plenty of equivalents around. Any set with a sloping base (to clear the exhaust) and adjustable straps will do the job. Hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Morning Darren, thanks for stopping by and for taking the time to comment. The V7III is a perfect mini-tourer and over the distance I'm sure it's just as quick at covering the ground as anything. Have a good day, cheers, Phil.

Evening Gerhard, thanks for your kind comments. I think, if you still have a soft spot for a Guzzi, one is going to end up in your life at some point...It took me 35 years but I got there in the end! As for the Maloja Pass, I’ll check it out next time I’m over there, thanks for the recommendation. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Srinivasan! Great to know the work is appreciated! The Guzzi is just great...It’s totally my forever bike...Even though I’ve said that a million times before. Thanks for stopping by & taking the time to comment, cheers, Phil.

Thanks David, glad you enjoyed the review - good to know the photography is appreciated. Happy Christmas! Cheers, Phil.

Morning James, thanks for your kind comments. Just watched your ‘strange sounds’ video... I thought exactly the same! Now I just wear earplugs 😀 safe riding to you also and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Phil, thank you for confirming the sound is absolutely normal! I really really love the bike and am looking forward to doing some touring with my son just like you. Moto Guzzi is a great bike. Safe riding! Jim

Thanks John, must admit I was prevaricating between a custard cream or a Jammy Dodger, but I wasn't sure if the latter would translate too well :-) Thanks for stopping by..more biscuits coming soon...Cheers, Phil.

Phil , you sound a funny bloke. What the heck is a Jammy Dodger or shouldn,t I ask. I own a 2012 V7 Special after hopping off a 2009 Triumph Thruxton , I,m very much enjoying the light weight of the V7 and the fact that you can carry 21litres of fuel in that tank.Plus MotoGuzzi has a great history !!

Hey John - a Jammy Dodger is the quintessential English Biscuit and yes, the light weight and tank range is something else. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammie_Dodgers

Morning Phil, thanks for your kind comments - Vancouver to Winnipeg ( just looked it up on the map) will be amazing - what a trip! Taking it easy over the two weeks is exactly the way to go, you’ll have a blast. Not sure where my next trip is but I’m cooking up something while the weather is bad 😀 Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Just did 4500kms in 11 days around Tasmania and through the Snowy Mountains on my 2015 Vii Special which now has 15000kms on the clock.. Plenty of gravel roads and fast sweepers. The bike was a revelation; comfortable, fast (cruising around 120-130kmh) and amazingly reliable. The inherent fuelling problems that these bikes have, being snatchy and lumpy at low speed/low revs , wasn't a problem on the long rides. I have been prevaricating about whether to trade it for a BMW GS of some variety or a new VStrom, but have just spent $1100 AUS on Hepco and Becker racks and panniers so it looks like the Guzzi is here to stay a bit longer. Love this bike - makes the best noise with Mistral slip on pipes and a fat crossover pipe. BTW I achieved about 60mpg on the Tasmania trip and that was at 120-130kmh fully loaded with luggage.

Doing Europe in two weeks will be like trying to do the whole of North America in the same time. It may be smaller but you won't get as far in the same time. The main highways are so boring you'll rather gnaw your arm off. Pick one region.

I've had the lumpy V7 II fixed. The dealer's workshop (used bike warranty job) traced it to faulty HT leads and split head breather, and the breather foams full of oil (because the pipe was split). It can now pull 4th or 5th at idle, just let go of the throttle and it ambles along without lurching so you can fiddle with the mirror (or read a book). The point is the lumpiness is fixable. Another trick is resetting the ECU by pulling the main fuse and putting it back (full power off). The system 'learns' and can store bad data in two maps (hot & cold). Resetting clears the bad data. More effective than disconnecting the Lambdas.

Hey Jeff - I’ll probably try the Avon’s next, there’s lots of good things being said about them. Like you I was trying to find an excuse for the behaviour of the Pirelli’s and for a while figured that’s just how the bike was. Funnily enough when I put the panniers on for the trip to the alps the rear felt loads better and seemed to control the damping much better - so as you suggest, softer is sometimes better. Anyway thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Johann - never a truer word :-) Thanks for watching and for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Hello, great to hear from you and yes - the V7 is totally old school. It's not a modern bike made to look old, but an old design that's been tinkered with over time to become something really special. And you could be right about the marketing strategy - there still remains a certain cachet about Guzzi's and the fact they are not ubiquitious is a big part of that. Perhaps they are the boutique arm of the Piaggio empire? I think Piaggio have done something similar with Vespa also, although of course they sell millions on those in Italy. Coolness is undefinable and certainly a part of it is being different and not trying too hard...to be cool. All the best, cheers, Phil.

Evening! Yes, I was a bit too ambitious at 500 miles in a day to be honest. Still, gotta make the most of 6 days off! As for the Pirelli’s - spot on...they are really horrible tyres! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

There’s nothing like a new V7...Couldn’t sleep when I got mine and even now when a beautiful sunny day is forecast I’m all excited. Interestingly enough I’ve now got Avon’s on and I can’t really discern any difference to the BT’s - they might be a little better I think, grip and stability wise but not much in it. The Pirelli’s were just pure evil though. As for thrumming around Europe on a V7 there’s nothing quite like it. Hope you get some good weather this week and get some miles in, enjoy & thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Morning Simon - thanks for your comments regarding both Guzzi videos, and yes, it’s a bike that really gets under your skin. Highway Code? Blimey, don’t fancy that but it will be worth it! As for the panniers, yes, they are an old set of Oxford Sport panniers - they will have been superseded by a new model equivalent now, but were no problem to fit and were fine during the trip - as you say, no faffing about needed and I reckon you can get a set for £70 or so. Good luck with the test! Cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Brilliant, many thanks! I've been zipping around on my X-Max 125 for years. Great in the city but time to get something more powerful for weekends in the mountains! Will keep you posted....

Thanks for stopping by and glad you enjoyed the review. The Guzzi would be great anywhere! Cheers, Phil.

Evening Matthew - thanks for your note. I think the interesting thing about the Guzzi is not only the ability to ride the torque but also that (slightly surprisingly) it likes to rev out also, which is the best of all worlds. It also sounds very nice under load - even on the stock exhausts. As for the Pirelli’s - they do feel very unpleasant. I don’t doubt they are actually perfectly grippy and safe but they give the front end a very floaty feeling and they whiteline horribly. Usually I stick with OE tyres on all my bikes until they wear our and then I put on something else on - but with the Pirelli’s I replaced them at only 2000 miles. The feel was such that I simply felt less than confident on bends - and that really compromises enjoyment. The BT-45’s though are spot-on - stable, grippy, great feel and they got me around downhill hairpins in the alps beautifully. If you can, I’d definitely get the Pirelli’s changed on delivery and/or very soon afterwards. Anyway, congrats on the new bike - it really is a totally satisfying, enjoyable and gorgeous bike to ride and own - you’ll love it! Thanks for stopping by and good luck for the big day...I.e. the roads are dry and the sun is shining. Enjoy! Cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Super to hear back, Phil, and thanks for the detail on tyres. I did mention it by email to the dealership yesterday , but the reply this morn is disttinctly non commital on the tyre issue ( I guess the're the same as yours, Pirelli sport demons)so it may be best to leave all as is then act independently. One can understand them not being too enthusiastic to get involved in such complexities. Will let you know how all goes at the end of January. Will be glued to your reviews ! Cheers ,Matt

Morning Matt, by complete coincidence this video popped up on FortNine - which perhaps helps to explain the tyre situation kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itxpasyQkrybmHU.html As for being glued...good to hear however I’ve run out of bikes to review now! Cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Morning Phil ,thanks so much for the Fortnine vid. What a good presentation, which does explain much. Motorcycle manufacturers are faced with the same pressures as everyone in business; how to make a margin to pay for the design, materials labour and other overheads , then make a profit ,which allows future development. If they can do a deal with the tyre supplier then fine, tho to compromise on quality and safety does seem to undermine what they are doing - especially Moto guzzi with their fine handling V7- in encouraging the buyer to opt for their nimble machine. Since it is the only point of contact with the road, why cut corners, I ask myself. I shall go back to Fortnine's explanation of the physics of torque and power( all transitted though those tyres....) and see if I can get my head round it on the tenth viewing..

Afternoon Matthew - yes, it's an interesting thesis - from what I understood from the F9 video, the quality aspect manifests itself in terms of reduced longevity, as opposed to say feel or grip etc. I'm guessing the Pirelli's on the V7 are 'behaving' as expected and that a good deal was done between the two companies and/or Moto Guzzi test riders only ever use smooth roads with no white lines or overbanding!

Morning David, I really can’t argue with that. They are the best. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks very much & thanks for watching! Cheers, Phil.

Thanks Adrian, very good of you to say so. The last few videos just started out as personal projects with no real aim so it’s very encouraging to know they’re useful and worth watching, cheers, Phil.

Good evening! Thanks for stopping by and good to know you enjoyed the review, cheers, Phil.

Good morning Mr Barnaby, thanks for stopping by. Well, the items you have listed are the very things that make the V7III so totally brilliant! Especially the ‘sticky out engine’ 😀 And over here at least, the Scrambler is £10K compared to the Guzzi at £8.2K (for the new 850). And on that the new 850 has an extra 15 or so HP over the old bike so it’s getting closer. Either way, it’s all about choices and opinions. Guzzi’s are….quite unique for a mass produced bike and they ride and look unique also. I do like the Scrambler but you know, sometimes only a Guzzi will do. At least for me anyway. Have a great day, cheers, Phil.

Thanks Maciej - really good to know the work is appreciated, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Good evening! Thanks for your kind comments - I’m still learning the harmonica but I think it kinda goes with the Guzzi 😀 As for the luggage I guess your options are a rear rack and fitting some pannier rails for either soft or hard luggage - there are options out there which will work and still allow a pillion. The RE is a great bike I’m sure...The Guzzi though is kinda unique and the engine is just something else both visually and to use. Plus it makes a useful few more HP and torque as you might expect. Mine has been totally reliable and has loosened up beautifully - love it and I’m usually really fickle! Hope that helps & thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews It did help! You being optimistic about the option itself was all I wanted to read. Cheers!

Thanks! Interesting info on the bags also - I’ve never heard of those before. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hello Michal, thanks for stopping by and yes, the V7 is a perfect beginners bike - light, low, easy to handle but also has enough go, handling and charm to keep you interested for years and years. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.

Morning Colin, yeah the green is lovely + it’s the same colour as my favourite pub in Berwick - always an important factor I think 😀 like you I’d prefer a tacho for the ‘balance’ factor plus I do like to see a needle sweeping across a dial. Having said that, the screen does kind of finish off the dashboard a bit better. Thanks for watching and good to know you enjoyed the review, cheers, Phil.

80:8 Photography & Design Evening Phil. Thanks for the reply. I take your point on the screen. You really do deserve more views and subscribers. I just saw your remark that no biscuits were harmed in the making of the video. I am glad to hear it. You may be interested to hear that no moles were harmed in the making of the handwarmer pockets on my wax jacket. Anyway I didn’t get where I am today by talking rubbish in the comments section on KZfaq so will leave it there.

Morning Colin, likewise - very happy to hear about the moles - I feel as though I can start my day in a much better frame of mind knowing that. As for views and subscribers, to be honest, I quite like the channel being relatively unwatched as the thought of going ‘viral’ (whatever that means) sort of terrifies me. Oh and thanks for reminding me about ‘CJ’ ! Cheers, Phil.

Afternoon - the panniers were really good actually - they expand quite a lot and I took enough stuff for a 7 day solo trip with a few tools etc. Given the mounting position, it's not possible to take pillion, but hey :-) Right must dash, sunny weather here! Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Good morning and thank you! Enjoying the environment is exactly what the bike is about. As for the heated grips I fitted the scooter grips (not quite as warm but a smaller controller) and the controls are in the centre of the handlebar. Not ideal but works ok, hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hello! Thanks for tuning in and taking the time to comment - good to know the review is appreciated, cheers, Phil.

Hey Neil, good to hear from you. As a first bike the V7 is a cracker - it’s much more idiosyncratic than Japanese bikes in terms of feel, handling and engine but it’s super easy to use and ride. Are you crazy then? No! Although using it for commuting is a bit crazy but only from the perspective of it being such a lovely and special bike 😀 It could do it easily! Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.

This bike is special. It's not a spec sheet leader, but it's good enough at everything, and it's just damn cool. Also got plenty of character and odd little quirks, but none of that looks like it would be annoying in any way. I think I'll be getting one soon.

Good afternoon - I totally agree! I found it extremely comfortable and still fun and easy to ride even after 6-8 hours in the saddle. So much so that even after a long a day riding / in-transit, I'd still go out in the evening for a few hours. That, plus the absolutely ease and simplicity of use, tank range and economy make it just about perfect. Really looking forward to try the 850 - if it has all those same characteristics plus the hike in power, it should be spot on. Shame about what they've done to the Stone though with that DRL and TFT display - what were they thinking of! Anyway, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews I agree about the DRL and TFT.

Morning Jacek, thanks for stopping by. The screen is a Dart Flyscreen www.dartflyscreens.co.uk it’s well priced and exceptionally good quality. As for the jacket, it’s more brown in real life and it’s made by Merlin. Again, a very good price and fabulous quality. Hope that helps, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hello! Thanks! Always good to know the work is appreciated, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Thanks for the kind comments, glad you enjoyed the review. My only comparison I guess is with the VII, which I test rode before buying the VIII. From memory the VII was a little more vibey and lumpy - certainly with the VIII the changed head and subtly different engine position may make a difference and I can honestly say that while I sense the vibes, it’s never caused me a problem even after many hours in the saddle. However, I have to qualify that with having spent much time riding unsuitable bikes over long distances my definition of comfort could be very different! Like you suggest though a V7 Comfort would be great and similarly I really value a light and easy to manage bike when touring around. But yeah, suspension on the VIII could be improved. Still love it though! Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Don't get me wrong, I love my Guzzi, but wish it was a bit more refined and comfortable, we are in 2020 and there is no excuse for European manufacturers to not do that. Just look at the Kawasaki z900rs.. it's a good looking retro bike, but feels 2020, wish Moto Guzzi comes up with a more refined V7.

Evening Mike, I think the role of a good, traditional biscuit in choosing and riding a motorcycle is much ignored. I might do a paper on it. Good to know someone else has the same feeling. Thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Felt bad for the run over cookie :(

Evening Craig - yes they do as essentially they are resting on the pillion pegs. Having said that though the bike is quite short anyway so aside from short rides, it’s not the best two up bike regardless. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.

Very true, it is..I’ve got it so bad I’ve been thinking about getting one in every colour 😀 Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Morning Marco, good to know you enjoyed the review. As for the panniers - they stayed well away from the tyres as essentially the rear shocks stop them from swinging into the wheel and as the panniers are not strapped down and have a backing which is friction free, they don’t impede the shocks either. It’s a solo only solution though as to get them in the right position they are mounted well forward. Overall I had no problems in nearly 2000 miles, the luggage stayed totally secure, felt very safe and didn’t flap around. And it’s simple! Hope that helps and thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Morning, thank you for the quick response that is definitely helping my decision making for getting throw overs! Best wishes. M

Good morning Mr Barnaby, thanks for stopping and it’s good to hear from you. You’re exactly right about the tank size and mpg - the bike is easily capable of over 220 miles to a tank, with some in reserve. Add to that shaft drive and it’s a great basic and little touring bike. I loved mine! Hope all is well with you, cheers, Phil.

Hello! Thanks for stopping by - yes, I agree - the V85 is also a very special motorcycle. And that engine in a re-imagined LeMans would be great, but possibly too obvious for such an idiosyncratic company as MotoGuzzi..As for the Stornello I think it’s possible to create your own by adding parts from the MG accessory catalogue? Either way Guzzi engines, vibes and aesthetics, whatever the package are just perfect 😄 Anyway, thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hey Peter - excellent and exciting news! Sounds like you’ve got somewhere interesting to go once those bits and pieces are fitted. Shot needed once all kitted out - would love to see it! As for the Avon’s, I’ve done around 600 miles on them now and can’t fault them. Neutral, well behaved and it maybe because they’re new, but they seem to help / work well with the suspension - they add a sense of subtle plushness. Of course that could easily be psychological brought on by copious amounts of sunshine - but great tyres and recommended. Well, enjoy Peter - nothing like a new bike with bits to fit. And when it’s a Guzzi with Sophia Loren on the pillion...Oh wait, I wasn’t supposed to mention that 😄 Cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews Cheers Phil - and Sophia.

Good morning! The Bridgestones are not that soft when compared to other bike tyres and certainly nothing like a sports tyre and for me the wear rate is about what I’d expect. With a bike tyre, compared to a car tyre, there’s a lot more torque/force going through a much smaller contact patch, the compound is also softer given that fact and that of course a bike needs to lean. Bikes generally accelerate much quicker, so friction between road and tyre is higher also. Feel is a big part of it also. I’ve ridden some tyres (back in the old days) that lasted forever but felt like I was riding on hard plastic - just horrible. Once you start riding you find you need total confidence in your tyres as it’s that which keeps you the right side up and good, grippy, well steering tyre is key to that. Also, of course, bikes are all about being “enthusiastic” which has a big part to play in tyre life! Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.

@@80eightReviews- excellent, thanks for your in depth reply

Afternoon Peter - thanks for the update, it sounds like you've created the perfect manageable and characterful touring bike - really good to know you're gelling with it. I did have heated grips fitted (to all my bikes) but now I'm a convert to battery powered heated gloves - I've got RST ones and they are just perfect. On low heat (which keeps the chill at bay in most conditions) I get around 4 hours from them - they're sublime and heat all round your hand. Would be great to see a picture if can sort out the tech! Cheers, Phil.

Hi Peter, how do you like your touring screen? Just ordered one and wondered at my size (5'-8'') how it will work around the torso and helmet.. also bought the MG rear rack for at least a duffle back while riding solo.

Hey Rodrigo, yeah, it’s the best. Thanks for stopping by, cheers, Phil.

Hello! The bike is fine at speed - totally composed at speeds of 75 mph+, no intrusive vibrations, mirrors clear & no white fingers. Wind noise is quite high, so earplugs are pretty much essential - despite that, there’s no strain on neck / shoulders. Quite incredible really! Hope that helps & thanks for watching, cheers, Phil.

Hello! I’ve had zero problems with the V7 and the clutch feels exactly as it did when new - light, no slip and a consistent bite point hot or cold. I haven’t even adjusted it (7000 miles). If I could go on a trip next week and cover 5000 miles I wouldn’t hesitate. It feels robust and it gets revved hard, which, as some old bearded Guzzi wizard told me, is the right thing to do. Hope that helps, cheers, Phil.