A crap single edit video just with some thoughts after a day on the road.
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@NickStaib4 жыл бұрын
In these days of super slick review videos, it's a rare treat to get a simply produced honest bike appraisal. No flashy opening credits, no bloody ads, just a nice chat from another biker. Cheers!
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Nick. I appreciate the comment. I hate editing video and if I have to do it I never end up doing it, so the simple way works best for me
@user-sw2lv3zp6o4 жыл бұрын
I agree and have something similar before.
@boo-boo5114 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman Good review. I have ridden one just for an hour or so and you captured what I felt to a tee. Gearbox was nice, engine had that low down pull. Felt it ran out of steam a little and those warning lights as you get higher up the range were irritating. Didn't feel like 80bhp. Comfortable riding position. The front felt a little "dead" but I am not use to a big wheel up front. As you say feels like it wants to be loaded and go on an adventure. Nice finish on it.
@barryolaith4 жыл бұрын
One of the most perceptive reviews of a bike I have ever come across.
@osimnod4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honest review. Raw horsepower is very overrated, IMHO. My first bike (at age 46) in 2004 was a 1996 BMW R850R - a perfectly fine street bike but after a year I thought I needed more HP. Wrong! I needed better riding skills. Second point: My mantra is - I can always recover from taking a corner too slowly but I can't always recover from taking a corner too fast. Enjoy your new mount!
@saddle8bag3 жыл бұрын
Truer words were never spoken. All the newbies think they need the bike that has the highest power output, when what they really need is to learn to ride.
@eternallearner81854 жыл бұрын
Common honest sense in a bike review so refreshing! Love the comment about if you can't go fast enough on this bike best have a look at how you are riding. Well done Nathan.
@Xandil4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new bike, I've always liked the Guzzi heritage and 'quirkiness' compared to the major brands. I agree with you on the test rides. I didn't test ride any of the dozen bikes I've owned over the years, but did my research ahead of time and had great results. I doubt test riding would have made any difference. The Guzzi looks good, I like the design and would love to have one on my acquisition list. But the dealer is too far away to make it practical. Good observation on the lack of mud guards, that's one thing I really appreciate on my 2018 V-Strom 1000XT. The extended front fender does a great job keeping the rocks and dirt off the front. I put a Givi rear hugger on and it works great protecting the rear spring. Good luck and let us know how the first couple thousand miles go. Your video on the V-Strom 1000 was instrumental in my decision to buy one. Keep up the great assessments.
@paulchambers22963 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review, I too like you have ordered one without a test ride, seen just about every KZfaq video of it and most love it. Looking forward to getting mine next week.
@travelinben19662 жыл бұрын
Just got my travel edition.150 miles on the clock now,and loving it.👍🏻
@RoddersAKADahDit4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear you're gelling with it. Nice brutal comments about the power & brakes 🤣 and overall great summary of the bike. I also describe it as a 3/4 size GS. Looking forward to getting a CoolCover for it also. 👍
@jerzywoking16994 жыл бұрын
Don't know why people say that all Guzzi's have clunky gearboxes. The CARC on my V1200 make all gear changes very smooth, with no clunk between neutral and first. Nothing as rough as the BMW 1250 boxer is going into first. As for power, if you can survive on the Himalayans 24.5 bhp, then the V85TT's 80 bhp must feel massive!
@peakrider48864 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nathan. I always enjoy watching and reading your reviews, I think you should change your channel name to The Honest Biker because in my opinion that’s exactly what you give. Honest reviews and opinions, not swayed by free stuff and manufacturer favours, you tell it how it is. Love the bike and interested to see how you get on with it.
@olafrotkohl58984 жыл бұрын
Felicitations on the new bike, and thanks for the very thoughtful review. I’m a huge Guzzi fan since I owned a V11 Sport Ballabio, and I did get a test ride on the V85TT last summer. I bonded with that bike immediately, and I like that it’s air-cooled. Nothing feels like a Guzzi.This is the year I get a new bike and I’m really torn between the V85TT and the new 1100 Africa Twin. The Guzzi is quite a bit cheaper, and shaft drive is wonderful, but the Honda checks all the boxes-in theory. Your review has me thinking this all over again. Thanks! Oh, and I should add that I was a solid BMW guy (most recent a 2011 R1200 GS Adventure), but after years of ridiculously expensive service intervals, not to mention the initial high cost, I’m done with them. They’re a fine machine but overpriced, especially for parts and service.
@fordprefect67974 жыл бұрын
Good review from someone that actually rides a lot.
@markbright78454 жыл бұрын
I’ve made so many mistakes buying a bike without a test ride, including Honda CRF250L and NC750X DCT. I think it is essential to have a good hour or so on routes that you use regularly to at least test the seat comfort, seating position (Rider triangle of feet, bum, hands). I tried an Indian Scout Bobber, which had me out of the seat over a motorway expansion joint. I bought a used R1150GSA with a ten minute ride, and discovered two days later that the brake hoses needed complete replacement. I bought a Honda Shadow 750 which felt good on a show stand, but fifteen miles into my first ride as an owner, I knew that I had made a horrendous mistake. Poor power and poor comfort.
@alanhenderson34174 жыл бұрын
Nice honest update ...I had a test ride on an R1250gs November last year and absolutely loved it....then this came onto the radar....the only thing that has pressed the pause button at the moment is in Scotland (as far as I'm aware) is I only have one dealer/option for test ride/sales/service. ....that for me is an issue...watching with interest to see your findings as the sound from that engine/exhaust and looks has me hooked already...
@bropocalypse20654 жыл бұрын
You got the best looking color IMHO. Jealous here in Georgia, US!
@nikos-giorgos4 жыл бұрын
I'd be really happy owning one of these. This and a Streetfighter V4 to keep it company of course...
@toxicpimp20024 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Guzzi family ! Hope you make it to San Diego for a nice ride through the mountains
@paulsnify4 жыл бұрын
MMm I bought a Motoguzzi 1200 Griso I loved the looks the engine and the handling brakes were great and changing the silencer it sounded great. I used to race a Guzzi in battle of the twins so I have always had a soft soot for Guzzis. So problems the main engine seal went on the crank at 3000 miles and it never handled as well after this was fixed the cam followers went twice once under warranty and at 5000 miles went again and not covered, The cam covers fill up with cream oil sludge about 1cm thick. This is because unlike old guzzis there is no breather for the cam covers the highest point of the engine and can be fixed by retro fitting breather from an old style Guzzi. I also am sure this is part of the problem with cam followers. Moto Guzzi response to any issues is dreadful. I hope you get better luck with your bike.It looks great and on today's roads a good ride and will help keep your licence clean.
@reinistraidas4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Please make a short video on the seat cover when you get it & link to the manufacturer, simple upgrades like these matter and videos on them are handy to see how it looks, fits, etc. Do report on suspension feel and what you’ve done to it also if you can. And in your 1000 mile review, please touch on how it feels to ride all day - seat, geometry, bar vibes if any, motor feel, suspension when loaded, etc :) thanks for the vid!
@jigerland4394 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts. I bought one last September and have covered 3,000 miles, I still love it even after coming down from a much more powerful bike. Just make sure all your bolts are tightening though as I've lost a few... probably down to dealer pdi checks... Oh and another point the black finish around the engine casing near to the Guzzi motif where the black meets the bare finish is coming away... probably not helped by lack of front mud guarding.. Anyway Happy riding
@leeblackburn154 жыл бұрын
Same colour as mine - Nice. Good review too. Nothing flashy and no flannel which I like.
@SingleScoopGelati4 жыл бұрын
Great review and on point on it's strengths and opportunities. I've put a deposit down on the travel edition here in the U.S. Test rode the KTM 790 Adv too but the Guzzi is just packed with features and, like you, couldn't jive with the Ready to Race branding of KTM.
@jeffslade18924 жыл бұрын
I had a Tigger 800 for the day whilst my V7ii was serviced. It did not handle as well and was slower through rough B-road bends with a tendency to squirm. With double the horses but them all up the top end, it wasn't actually as quick on the road as my V7ii. It was certainly far less comfortable to ride. Horses for courses.
@gdscheiwe014 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review. Not the prettiest, fastest, or tech laden bike but it sounds like it will work for you. That is how I chose my Africa Twin(2017, fresh from the crate l, picking it up end of March) No test ride, just sat on it to make sure I could touch the ground. Interested to see how your opinion sounds after a season worth of riding. Peace!
@richfromlondon32544 жыл бұрын
Great update! They're in different bike categories in terms of price, power and probably overall quality but could you do an adventure bike comparison with the guzzi and the himalayan? Cheers Nathan!
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Good question. Chalk and cheese in many ways but I guess they share similar values in terms of fairly basic technology, slight underdog status and on paper there being better bikes you could buy. The Guzzi though is obviously smoother, faster and bigger than the Himalayan. It'll be the better bike for long distance road touring but on a muddy back road or for green laning then obviously the Himalayan remains a much more manageable bet. Which is why I've kept it.
@richfromlondon32544 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman cheers for the swift reply! Great to have the option of either bike depending on what you're doing. Plus you've got the posties for nipping to the shops... Or going across the world! 🌍
@jeffdavies6884 жыл бұрын
Mesh seat covers are amazing.....comfort and extra ventilation...
@grayjohn19064 жыл бұрын
Odd to me how a bit of mesh makes a seat significantly more comfortable? but I value your opinion :-)
@alandmorley4 жыл бұрын
nice little video well done young man, hope you enjoy your guzzi
@George1962074 жыл бұрын
Bought my bike without ever getting on one like it. Wanted a V Strom 650 , no dealer in my town. Bought my second choice a Versys 650 . Best bike ever... that I own. lol
@adaptableadventurerider4 жыл бұрын
Do love the look of these mate great video I agree with the 80bhp comment more than plenty enough love the 47bhp on my 350lc's so much fun.
@Belindaxtz6604 жыл бұрын
Interesting honest review update!😉would like a similar vlog for an offroad update pls?👍never bought a guzzi yet... been on my radar for years.. i like the sound of the engines and a bike that is not so mainstream.. watching this bike with interest love the concept just not sure about the " computer screen " and how well it will like being dropped in mud off road.. i would like a different bike than a BMW but would also have to consider older gs 1150.....
@desroin4 жыл бұрын
Honestly if I'm able to save up enough cash by the end of this year this will be my next bike in 2021 and onwards... I can't help but find positive reviews with the most negative thing being said that the gear shift gives an audible "clunk" after riding it for a couple thousand km. Getting a Kardan at that price class in combination with a nice air cooled V2 that has very low fuel consumption and coupled with a 23l gas tank it just seems to be the perfect travel bike :O
@jimmymac93884 жыл бұрын
I think a test ride on a used bike or a pre-loved bike as sales like to call them these days is a must if you can get one.Its the actual bike you are buying.
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Yes I totally agree with you on that one. Condition is everything with a second hand one.
@georgeclark27214 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on test riding a second hand bike is simply to make sure everything works as it should, agree with your thoughts about doing your research, commit Financially and learn to love it warts an all.
@mikek22184 жыл бұрын
Nice honest assessment as always. I have been very curious about this bike but worry that it'll be too heavy for me, (I currently have a Himalayan). And I would be interested to know more about those seat covers. Any chance you can provide a link?
@Bob_Keen4 жыл бұрын
I've always liked Guzzi's although never owned one. It was on my radar recently but i opted for the suzuki DL1000. I know it might sound daft, but i've never been keen on a bike which allows all the road gunk and crud to be thrown all over the front of the engine ( although im sure there is some solution for that in aftermarket parts ). Great looking bike though. And looks like a great price.
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Bob. Yes the Caponord Rally mudguard sounds like it does the job with the mud prevention. I might invest in one.
@user-sw2lv3zp6o4 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviewers on the net. The bike isn't my cup of tea, though.
@MillfieldWheels4 жыл бұрын
Hi Nathan, I never understand when people make the comment you made about checking which gear you're in when you reach a roundabout etc. to make sure you're in the right gear. What's the right gear? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th ? There's no such thing as the right gear by number no matter what the road situation. You change up and down gears dependent on road speed and engine speed. If riders have to rely on gear indicators to tell you the correct gear then they shouldn't be on the road! What happens when you have to ride a bike without a gear indicator? I've got a new GS with more than enough riding aids than you can shake a stick at, but that's the way they come. I don't class myself as some sort of super skilled VR46 rider but I honestly don't look at the tacho or gear display apart from checking I'm in 1st or top.
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian. It's a fair comment but I'm not sure we're coming from the same place with regards a gear indicator. I'm not referring to it as an indicator to tell you when to change - you obviously do that based on everything you mentioned - it's more an indicator of the gear you're in, which sometimes is handy for when, as I say, you approach a roundabout for example, with the clutch pulled in and you just want to be able to glance down to check what gear you're in and therefore know whether you need to knock down or not. I have many bikes without a gear indicator. A bike doesn't need a gear indicator, but if it has one I'm not sure why it has to be as compromised as it is on the Guzzi and some of the other bikes out there.
@MillfieldWheels4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman I was referring to the digital gear display telling you what gear you were in. Approaching a roundabout I'll just close the throttle and change down as speed decreases and accelerate away in whatever gear I'm in. The slower the lower the heat.
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
@@MillfieldWheels If that works for you and you always know what gear you're in that's great. If the gear indicator is there then sometimes I like to just glance down and check to make sure I'm in second not the third for example. Saves fluffing the pull away.
@automotofan82764 жыл бұрын
Congrats man for your beautiful bike.You got yourself a unique motorcycle that stands out with its modern retro style. Beautiful colour and specs,this bike makes a statement for its owner in contrast with many modern bikes that you see on every damn corner! Don't forget that you get it on a bargain price too.Bare in mind that most journalists make complementary reviews on the bikes that pay them aka the commercial ones.Guzzi isn't popular but that's why i like it. Be a proud owner and enjoy this beauty.You seem that you aced your research on your new bike, cheers!
@Tomahawkfalcone4 жыл бұрын
Good review mate, bought my v85 in june, love mine. Came from a tiger 800 and guzzi beats it hands down for me bar power. Comfort for me is great. Gear indicator is rubbish but no problem. Have you sold the himalayan?
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
No still got the mighty Himalayan. It's the dirty work horse of the stable!
@BorisKarloff664 жыл бұрын
I do like the look of these
@Belindaxtz6604 жыл бұрын
Any chance of putting a link to your man with the comfy seat covers pls?😉
@fenner-g60884 жыл бұрын
www.coolcovers.co.uk
@obadiahscave4 жыл бұрын
Goot-zi... I love those bikes... Just beautiful...😎
@jfro58674 жыл бұрын
Did loads of research before getting my Guzzi, its a bit of an old cliche but does actually capture it for me. A Guzzi is like a nice red wine, you enjoy it and savour it. Its not a high strength lager so don't expect it to be.
@johnfew51454 жыл бұрын
I'll be interested to hear what you have to say about running the bike at low RPM. For instance in town when the traffic is slow, or tight and steep mountain bends. I have found my V7ii snatchy and a little unpredictable. The open road is wonderful though.
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. I must say that I was impressed by the general low speed behaviour of the bike. The fuelling is good - nice and smooth throttle input, and definitely no snatchiness. I am a clutch featherer though, but I think the bike will work well as a slow speed trail bike.
@PabloMontero19764 жыл бұрын
I know you're not planning on doing much off-road with it, but do you think one could "adventurify" it and hit some tails? Say like a Africa Twin. Cheers.
@johnmortison57634 жыл бұрын
Since the mudguard issue is so obvious, I would be surprised if Hitchcocks doesn't have a solution.
@2018NukNuk4 жыл бұрын
I trade my guzzi for a triumph, had two massive shaft leaks. Always afraid to take a right corner.
@philsmith10874 жыл бұрын
I loved the look of these bikes and was looking at them last year, until I saw the price! Nice review, youtube took me to the next video which was also about this Guzzi, that was also a good review (andybcole). I also fancy an XLV750, but unfortunately the collectors have buggered the prices of those! I wouldn't mind seeing a review of the XLV750 in the company of more modern bikes, just saying ;)
@user-sw2lv3zp6o4 жыл бұрын
XLV750? They were Honda's mid-80s attempt at rivaling the R80GS, weren't they?
@philsmith10874 жыл бұрын
@@user-sw2lv3zp6o Not sure, but the engine afaik, is similar to the NTV650 which is known to be bullet proof, and it has shaft drive. There's an XLV on ebay with 95,000 miles on it, the prices are mad.
@thealvaco4 жыл бұрын
I've got 183 000 kms on my vstrom. Still not sure if I like it.
@oyleyhands13324 жыл бұрын
Having spent time 'Down Under' I thought you would be a sheepskin seat cover fan,It was the only way I could survive more than 50 miles on my Urban GS,if I had test driven that before I bought it I never would have bought it,all looks and the most crap suspension I have ever know on a big bike...it had to go.I bought a Cool cover mesh seat for my pals Africa Twin whilst at Ragley Hall,he likes it but takes it off for winter as he says its as claimed...but too cool ! I think,after owning some thirty bikes plus and many being big trail/adventure bikes that unless its really bad like the Urban GS,that you tend to 'mould' yourself to the bike once you have done some fine tuning of bar position,seat comfort and footpegs. Hope you enjoy it and if you find a few bits you are not too keen on...think back to the miles you did on the original postie bike and lack of creature comforts and gizmos and all will soon come into perspective.....
@ChrisinHove4 жыл бұрын
Oyley Hands Agreed - The stock bmw suspension is awful! Easily upgraded, though.
@oyleyhands13324 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisinHove But...when you buy a 12k plus on a bike should one have go and spend a few thousand more,I have had bikes much less expensive and the suspension has felt much better as standard.
@ChrisinHove4 жыл бұрын
Oyley Hands Agreed. I paid “only” 9k for mine, ex bmw staffer with 500 on the clock so felt a bit better about spending up on the suspension
@davidroberts74904 жыл бұрын
Good choice mate !
@casperdevanche10514 жыл бұрын
Is the bash plate just for show or will it provide some protection? Any chance we can get a link to your friends seat covers?
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
www.coolcovers.co.uk is the name of the seat cover company. As for the sump guard, I've just had a better look at it and I get the feeling that it would take a good wallop but would look pretty battered afterwards. So it'll do the job, but just not as well as a proper aftermarket jobby.
@ampm97714 жыл бұрын
Nobody gives Guzzi enough credit. Most people don't know that lots of things on GS is copied from guzzi, their shaft drive concept is direct copy of Guzzi-Magni parallelogram concept, and Guzzi's own CARC was more advanced that BMW's.On top of that, Guzzi made this bike with 100% air cooled engine, not air/oil cooled engine. Guzzi previously made the Stelvio that was better than BMW's gs in every single way.
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
I take your points for certain but ultimately we'll all have different perspectives. I rode the stelvio and it was fine but I didn't personally think it matched the latest GS in any real way. But people love them and if they prefer them then that's all that matters
@ampm97714 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman Yes, I agree with you that it won't match the latest GSes, but when it came out first was brilliant, and you have to consider its price too. Guzzi didn't give you all the gizmos of BMW like tele-lever or electronic suspension, but it gave you CARC and those Marzocchi forks did the job more than good enough in hands of capable riders. Mechanically, Stelvio was excellent, 32L fuel tank, not as massive as GS, most importantly anyone could ride and handle it. I am 182cm 78kg(not the smallest), but I can hardly move 850gs around let alone 1250. Still I believe that Guzzi don't get the credit(hype) they deserve. I particularly appreciate your review of this bike which is identical to what I think about it as an owner of one. People say that 80bhp/80Nm is not enough, but you can use all of the power and torque at will and at all times. For comparison, Honda's new CB650R makes 94bhp which is more, but you have to rev it hard and put yourself at risk just to get anywhere near the max hp.
@spanners734 жыл бұрын
Great first review.... following 👍👍
@nikos-giorgos4 жыл бұрын
What about the Ktm you didn't like, compared to the guzzi I mean?
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess I could have looked at a 790 but there's just something about the style and image of ktm that puts me off buying one. Maybe a 1090 adv r but I'm just not keen on all the Ready to Race bollocks
@stevec99594 жыл бұрын
Good video. Why did you go for that color scheme? 😀
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Ha. Because I'm not a big fan of the multi coloured ones and it was a four month wait for the red one.
@narrator-timothymckean4 жыл бұрын
Some bikes you can sit on and know in 30sec that the ergos aren't right for you.
@jerzywoking16994 жыл бұрын
There is a great website that let's you compare the ergonomics of a lot of bikes. Shame not all bikes are on there though. See www.cycle-ergo.com
@Chriswilliams-lx9mx4 жыл бұрын
The Guzzi looks lovely by the way,should be supping real ale when u own a Guzzi a mans bike laaa👍
@Dave-sw2dm4 жыл бұрын
After I rode the KTM adventure I equated it to a thoroughbred race horse. A lot of fun, but wouldn’t want to ride it every day. The Triumph Trophy SE I owned for only 10,000 miles was an amazing motorcycle until the weather warmed up. Then it was torture to ride with ATGATT.
@Dave-sw2dm4 жыл бұрын
Nathan, come introduce yourself at Wildguzzi forums.
@dungbeetlemovies4 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. Gear indicator a-la Harley. :)
@robsonenduro33164 жыл бұрын
not at all, proper test ride is underrated. You don't spend that kinda money on blind date :)
@13thearl4 жыл бұрын
Damn. You are talking me round but I only just bought my Tracer 700!
@nathanthepostman4 жыл бұрын
Ha. No dramas. The Tracer is still a great bike. I'd say lighter and peppier than the Guzzi. I rode one out to the Stelvio and back when they first come out. The screen gave me tinnitus but I liked the rest of the bike!
@13thearl4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanthepostman Aha! I have a big touring screen so I should be okay!