Front or Rear Brake - which one is Safer?

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Which brake on your bike is safer to use - front or rear? A lot of new riders intuitively tend to use rear brake more than front, because they think it’s safer. Why is that so - let’s discuss in this video. We’ll talk about braking on a straight line, braking in curve, combined braking, braking with front and rear brake separately, with and without ABS, etc. And most importantly - we’ll discuss the most common mistakes with front and rear brake, see how they play out and how to avoid them. This is pretty important video especially for new riders, so don’t forget to put a like right now and hit the subscribe button. Let’s go!
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Since everyone writes this, it's necessary, I suppose 🤷, so here we go. Disclaimer: Ride at your own risk, you are responsible for your own safety. Me, Andrey Bodrov and my channel, Moto Control disclaim any liability incurred in connection with the use of riding techniques from this channel. Use common sense, wear full protective gear and ride in a safe and predictable manner!
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@solitajre222
@solitajre222 Жыл бұрын
When I was taking my license, my instructor told me some gold nuggets: The rear brake is also called the "stability brake" and should be used as such when needed. (to gain some extra stability) this is especially important at slow speeds (walking speed). When braking, the front and rear brakes are used together, never on their own (except for walking speed where the rear break can be used on its own) If you need to brake a lot or hard, you are not planning ahead enough, riding this way will get you hurt. Hard breaking should only be "needed" when something unexpected occurs. Never yank the brakes, squeeze the brakes to maximize control and braking efficiency. Identify "escape paths" when you ride and try to swerve or avoid the problem rather than braking for it. Evasive maneuvers let you maintain control and also get you out of the situation faster. And the best nugget he gave me was that "Everyone is an idiot and you are invisible. It is your job to keep yourself safe."
@anandkazanka2438
@anandkazanka2438 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Last part that’s what I thought when that city rider fall because of pedestrian crossing at the wrong time. And he got mad in pedestrian, dude should be expecting this when flying through the city
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 Жыл бұрын
I can be going 20mph in bus lane as on bicycle but no pedestrian look before cross, they all step out so I have to swerve to avoid them
@doomsday3130
@doomsday3130 Жыл бұрын
@@anandkazanka2438 and it was even raining and slippery
@adriantroalic9298
@adriantroalic9298 Жыл бұрын
Using rear and feathering the front is called trail braking and is the safest way to brake on a motorcycle 😉 feathering meaning you don't give it full force you clench it lightly a few times rather than grabbing it
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 Жыл бұрын
That's what I tell new riders. " you are invisible, they don't see you. They don't see big trucks and trains, they sure as hell don't see you ."
@sa.agarrr
@sa.agarrr Жыл бұрын
7 year of daily riding , never been involved in accident , never fell still watching this coz you did a great job brother..!
@allantruong7031
@allantruong7031 Жыл бұрын
knock on wood
@luke-bookbear
@luke-bookbear Жыл бұрын
You should learn to crash, it might save your life someday.
@RARufus
@RARufus Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I hope you never do have a crash. A guy I worked with road his bike to work every day it was possible in Minnesota for at least 20 years, then ended up getting rear ended one day on the freeway. The driver that hit him wasn’t paying attention and he broke ribs, collar bone, wrist and leg. He’s lucky to get out alive frankly. Other drivers are the main reason I don’t ride in city traffic. I never have and I don’t plan on it.
@IBleedTiranga
@IBleedTiranga Жыл бұрын
Touch the wood ASAP. Don't take pride
@glyphgraph8436
@glyphgraph8436 Жыл бұрын
I used to ride daily to work for more than 10 years.. never involved in accident, but a few near misses, mostly people suddenly switching lane.. One night, no traffic empty road all alone, 30km/h.. it happened.. i hit a gate and busted my headlamp.. all because of not paying attention to the road.. lmao
@gravesclayton3604
@gravesclayton3604 Жыл бұрын
One detail nearly everyone leaves out is DO NOT grab the clutch in a panic and immediately disengage drive to the rear wheel. When you declutch, you are now free-wheeling, and your speed increases as opposed to just letting off the throttle. in gear. When free-wheeling, even moderate braking can lock up the rear wheel, especially on wet surfaces. Using both brakes, in gear, and declutching as you get to a stop, maintains better control.
@matoko123
@matoko123 Жыл бұрын
Or if you're cool enough downshift and use engine breaking, don't want to stall the engine, may need it to suddenly pull away as you see a car coming up fast on your ass after your sudden stop.
@landonfolken03
@landonfolken03 Жыл бұрын
​@@matoko123 being able to feather the clutch well is a must! Like you said...dont want to stall out just in case
@johnnydev819
@johnnydev819 Жыл бұрын
Well in my country we have to pass different tests to get a licence and one of the tests is emergency braking at 50km/h. The process which they teach us is: close the throttle, press the clutch all the way in, front brake ... no rear brake involved
@duanebartholomew5782
@duanebartholomew5782 Жыл бұрын
What about rapidly going down gears whilst stopping hard ...better or just stay in 5th...Than you ❤
@gravesclayton3604
@gravesclayton3604 Жыл бұрын
@@duanebartholomew5782 You need to train to do both, but increase brake pressure gradually in the process. This is not a natural reaction. You must practice so that your reactions are rehearsed and part of muscle-memory when you have to act quickly.
@seanjestersloan
@seanjestersloan Жыл бұрын
For a beginner this is gold. Thank you for the comprehensive information and examples in this video and for covering all the aspects. You have probably saved a lot of damage to motorcycles with this systematic tutorial.
@larrylynn
@larrylynn Жыл бұрын
Those real life examples shown are perfect examples of riders either not paying attention, or riding beyond the conditions or their abilities. It's key to know your own abilities AND your limitations. Stay within those points and you should be fine.
@matoko123
@matoko123 Жыл бұрын
That's right. They could all have being avoided by paying attention to their surroundings and conditions.
@steve5825
@steve5825 Жыл бұрын
These videos are excellent, from a motorcycle instructor in the U.K. 👍 braking is the most under practised riding skill by most riders.
@johnschlesinger2009
@johnschlesinger2009 Жыл бұрын
I use the rear on its own a lot in slow riding. And easing off the front and increasing the rear, gradually, is very useful for coming to a smooth, controlled stop.
@garenzamba6861
@garenzamba6861 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have learnt your intelligence.
@hkphysics
@hkphysics Жыл бұрын
The video says to ease off the rear and increase the front, you do the opposite. Does it really work well?
@sigmaoctantis1892
@sigmaoctantis1892 Жыл бұрын
@@hkphysics If by slow, he means 10 kph or he is riding on a loose surface with street tyres, then it's an OK braking technique. That is also, assuming that he is riding a motorcycle.
@hkphysics
@hkphysics Жыл бұрын
@@sigmaoctantis1892 oh, got it. I'm not a very experienced rider, so I'm trying to gather every piece of Info I get here to improve. Thank you for the explanation😁
@sigmaoctantis1892
@sigmaoctantis1892 Жыл бұрын
@@hkphysics Follow what the guy in the video is saying. Your front brake has more stopping power that the rear but pay attention to the road surface. The main thing is to get a feel for it all. Pay attention to the feeling of pressure at the brake lever and how that corresponds to braking force. After a while you can even get the feel of how much traction your tyres have and how hard you can brake.
@jon8327
@jon8327 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent tutorial. I am a new rider and have been riding for one month without any problems but last week my bike slipped from under me and fell on my leg. I watched some videos and eventuality figured out it was something i did wrong on the breaks. After watching your video i now kmow that i was too heavy on the front break. Thank you. I have subscribed to learn more 👍
@e.l.9589
@e.l.9589 Жыл бұрын
Front tire is designed for braking, rear tire is designed for acceleration. Apply both with weight distribution in mind.
@BeezerWashingbeard
@BeezerWashingbeard Жыл бұрын
What are you steering with these days?
@e.l.9589
@e.l.9589 Жыл бұрын
@@BeezerWashingbeard Usually a handlebar, but sometimes a steering wheel.
@JP-iq8td
@JP-iq8td Жыл бұрын
I've been riding mountain (bicycles) for 8 years. Bought a motorcycle, did the MSF, last year. It's amazing how much technique translates to the road on a motorcycle. I'm still a beginner, but I have a lot of bike feel on the motorcycle from ripping around on the mountain bike with my rear in a controlled slide & my body weight taking control of the situation. It has made me incredibly more confident! great video, reinforces all the safety!
@trailguy
@trailguy 8 ай бұрын
I’ve taught many people stick shift and motorcycle riding. The first thing I find out is if they understand how and why bicycle gears work. If they get it, my job is so much easier. As for handling, yep, but a longer explanation. Lol.
@_Ulisses_
@_Ulisses_ Жыл бұрын
Massive thanks. I'm about to start my process of getting my bike license, and this kinda video is perfect to enforce that learning process. Great channel, keep it up.
@GaryL3803
@GaryL3803 Жыл бұрын
That high side in the beginning definitively caught my attention. As a bicycle rider the bicycle end over immediately afterward was instructive as well. Wish bicycles had ABS! I have practiced maximum braking using both front and rear many times though I have never needed it - yet.
@mvnorsel6354
@mvnorsel6354 Жыл бұрын
I use front mostly on a bicycle but only in a straight line,
@Neamands
@Neamands Жыл бұрын
Well at least for E-Bikes there's an ABS system made by Bosch. Here's a vid showing it in use: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mayVlsuVm7vLpnU.html You can also get "regular" E-Bikes (no MTB) with that system, but most videos showing those are in German. I think it's great, especially when you consider that a lot of E-Bike riders tend to be a bit older and/or don't ride as much as avid cyclists (and yes I know that in recent years also younger people have started riding E-Bikes)
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын
Letting off the rear brake is fine, so long as the motorcycle is vertical or close enough not to be thrown into a highside crash. Even with ABS, your maximum stopping force is going to be just before the ABS kicks in, so it will help a bit if you misjudge and apply a bit of extra brake, but other than that it mostly sits there doing nothing.
@shyamsundar1791
@shyamsundar1791 Жыл бұрын
ABS is really a very good add on to the bike . It serves very good purpose.
@thomsonsunil7394
@thomsonsunil7394 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын
It's gotten a lot better over time, but it also makes the maintenance and repair process a much bigger pain. Also, it doesn't really do much if you actually know how to handle the brakes as maximum stopping force happens when you're just shy of locking the tires. Meaning, that ABS is just helpful if you screw up your braking.
@Stevens_Images
@Stevens_Images Жыл бұрын
I won't go without it anymore. Thoes "panic stops" have happened to me more than once and I forget to do the control breaking almost everytime. ABS for me. These videos are a great reminder!
@gemapamungkas7296
@gemapamungkas7296 Жыл бұрын
my motorcycle have an abs. i can't believe how that shit everytime everypoint when you are needed
@firefistace2370
@firefistace2370 Жыл бұрын
Guys can you help me.. my bike has single channel ABS only (in front tyre) rear has no ABS .. how should I brake to avoid getting thrown off😅
@KF1
@KF1 10 ай бұрын
Your cadence of speech is perfect for tutorial videos. Reminds me of the old 1950's tutorials about mechanical stuff. Rock on
@Mountainchip
@Mountainchip 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. As an instructor this is something I’ve had to explain to students over and over. It’s nice to see a great explanation of some fundamental physics of riding. Keep it up.
@mannyechaluce3814
@mannyechaluce3814 Жыл бұрын
that's it, I am driving a car................
@mr.robot7669
@mr.robot7669 Жыл бұрын
.i.
@manojvijayasegar9827
@manojvijayasegar9827 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@EmoKen
@EmoKen Жыл бұрын
You that scared huh?
@LuciBriggsMusic
@LuciBriggsMusic Жыл бұрын
🙃😂
@MotoControlEn
@MotoControlEn Жыл бұрын
I'm guilty of driving sometimes too😁
@MakeTracksMoto
@MakeTracksMoto Жыл бұрын
As a relatively new rider, can I just say that these videos are brilliant for knowledge. Thank you.
@ungratefulmango
@ungratefulmango Жыл бұрын
Never been on a motorcycle, but I've fallen off my ebike pretty badly. I want to avoid the same mistake at high speeds. This video taught me a LOT!
@Rasgarroth
@Rasgarroth Жыл бұрын
This channel is AMAZING. Every motorcycle rider should watch this ONCE IN A WHILE even when experienced. You explain very very clearly and your videos are concise and comprehensive. Love your work!
@bixierey
@bixierey Жыл бұрын
I had this habit of tapping the rear brake instead of squeezing it, I always found it weird that I naturally did that just found it more comfortable. Turns out its actually the right way to do it. Glad to know
@XenoghostTV
@XenoghostTV 7 ай бұрын
I guess you figured out the right way by feeling brother
@luisgordillo1695
@luisgordillo1695 10 ай бұрын
good advise ! as a rider of 30 years I have learned to use 70 percent front and 30 rear most of the time. but have always practiced ( emphasis on practice ) on pumping both front and rear rapidly with almost 100 percent on the front while doing a panic stop. this practice makes it possible for you to also be able to steer the bike. just like ABS on a car. I have found that over the years of riding and training and watching YT video's like this have made me a better rider . there are 3 parts of any motor vehicle , acceleration , maneuvering and 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘braking. practice them all individually and get to know your bike. and always ride within your means.
@1tan_freed0m
@1tan_freed0m 4 ай бұрын
I do the same thing. Mine is front disc, rear drum. So I go 70:30 ratio
@gerritgovaerts8443
@gerritgovaerts8443 Жыл бұрын
There are Moto GP riders who never use the rear break because the marginal decrease in stopping power does not offset the risk of locking of the rear wheel
@WilsonTheArchitect
@WilsonTheArchitect Жыл бұрын
if you are riding like a Rossi on the street you have bigger issues xD
@bhpturboboost
@bhpturboboost 11 ай бұрын
hard to belive thast there are so many people that dont understand the braking system , a know a few and tried explaning to them , but they dont want to listen ..... your explanation is perfect on how to break and handle an emergency braking situation .... very good upload .... subd ..... 😎
@melvinallennavales8547
@melvinallennavales8547 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I use combine braking (shifting the brake power from rear to front) before I got PDC (Practical Driving Course), when the Instructor ask me do you have experience on Motorcycle before, I said no it's my first time, also I said I learn from KZfaq and practice with E-Bike (Electric Bikes that only run for 50kph). Thanks for this guide because it help a lot specially for beginner riders like me.
@adamjankowski4315
@adamjankowski4315 Жыл бұрын
As a rider for over 30 years it's a combo, the front will stop you faster bit the rear will keep you going straight easier. Ultimately all conditions will need to be taken into consideration and skill level will determine what is safest or what matters in racing, fastest.
@jetink600
@jetink600 Жыл бұрын
Another nice video. And i love all the exercises and drills you have. I think everyone should practice often
@lf3skillz921
@lf3skillz921 Жыл бұрын
People think it's funny I wear full gear everywhere and practice all the time, but they wear steel toes and open face helmets while drinking beer so....
@janialander414
@janialander414 Жыл бұрын
Scooter rider here. I usually use way more front brake than rear, rear can lead fastly to uncontrollable situations.
@lf3skillz921
@lf3skillz921 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I thought I knew everything you were telling us, until you mentioned slightly letting off the rear brake. Can't wait to go practice this at higher speeds, 80km/h wind today.
@three53
@three53 Жыл бұрын
This! I totally had not considered switching the progression on the back, and the physics don't lie!
@pmacc3557
@pmacc3557 Жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@brian9829
@brian9829 8 ай бұрын
@@pmacc3557 since he didn’t reply, 💀💀💀. JK
@ackerkenton
@ackerkenton Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brillant advise and a fantastic channel. Very impressive
@N13J
@N13J Жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere to always use both brake but distribute the power to around F80% and B20%. Rear brake only is useful for slow-speed zigzagging in a traffic jam.
@jamestienkamp1011
@jamestienkamp1011 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you read it in your manual you study to get your license but it's 70 / 30 front and back.
@buck8266
@buck8266 Жыл бұрын
It actually depends on the weight distribution of the bike
@AngkolJo
@AngkolJo 8 ай бұрын
i only own a cvt scooter but i am really motivated to oractice more because of this guy! keep that coming sir!
@samurijder9550
@samurijder9550 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, once again, for a clear video with a lot of good explanation and trying to keep is safe. Cheers from the Netherlands.
@flhusa1
@flhusa1 Жыл бұрын
Because of weight shift when stopping from rear to front the front brake accounts for 80% stopping power. This goes for 4 wheel vehicles .Best to use both brakes .
@terrywilson1362
@terrywilson1362 Жыл бұрын
I use the front brake and the downshifting of the gears to help slow me down in normal conditions, if an emergency then I use both equally
@georgejameson9317
@georgejameson9317 Жыл бұрын
Both brakes have their place. Combined braking for all normal stops. Rear braking only when at slow speed on wet grass or gravel. On sport or naked bikes quick stops from speed both but large bias to front after weight transfer starts. Braking on turns well covered in video if you are leaning and lock a wheel. Riding dirt bikes magnify all these rules and is great training for anyone that has access.
@jeffersontorio9512
@jeffersontorio9512 Жыл бұрын
experience is the greatest teacher, my father teach me the basics like how to start the engine and how to shift but no one teach me how to combine breaks and how to drive in the high way but he know I can so he let me, until now decades later I feel like my bike is part of my body
@TerVentures
@TerVentures Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I am a bicycle rider and planning to get a motorcycle soon. I use rear brake first on my bicycle before applying front brakes to prevent a handlebar throw. But maybe this is less of a chance when on motorcycle.
@davidgoldstrong8286
@davidgoldstrong8286 Жыл бұрын
The rear brake keeps the bike more stable as it doesn't cause the front to dive, but as long as you apply gentle pressure on the front brake you should be fine, these days abs is fitted to bikes which stops the bike from locking up under heavy breaking, if you break in a straight line then you shouldn't lose control, ultimately don't ride fast as this gives you more time to react and don't tailgate. Ride within the speed limits and remember that your not on a race track
@elgatogaming4198
@elgatogaming4198 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice bro
@MickH60
@MickH60 9 ай бұрын
Mate, the front brake is your life saver, if you don't know how to brake heavily and safely with the front brake, then you don't know how to brake at all, the rear keeps the bike stable at slow speed ONLY..... Learn the limits of your brakes, EVERY rider should know that.... It will save your life.
@Rafael-fo9sp
@Rafael-fo9sp 4 ай бұрын
You say that that it doesn't cause the front to dive as if it's a good thing. This shows how little you understand about the physics involved in braking that were discussed in this very video. 70-90% of the stopping power is on the front, cause that's how weight transfer works
@amosmoyo3821
@amosmoyo3821 Жыл бұрын
Nobody ever explained these to me but I’ve naturally adapted to the techniques. Very good video
@mohammadsoubra3820
@mohammadsoubra3820 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@jcbartlett25
@jcbartlett25 Жыл бұрын
your channel is so helpful as im just starting out, i really appreciate all the info
@ashishvishwas9952
@ashishvishwas9952 Жыл бұрын
I always use both the brakes whenever i brake either on high speed or low speed and i always did that even when i was a beginner i used both the brakes ( but they were less front biased) it was in my instinct to apply both brakes i guess .
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын
TBH, the rear is mostly for stability and for maximum stopping power when vertical. The front can be used at any time, provided that you are gentle enough with it.
@jurgisler4085
@jurgisler4085 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrei, I’m glad you made it to Argentina this days! Your video of braking techniques and physics is quintessential to 2-weel riding of all sorts, exceptionally good and concluding!
@MotoControlEn
@MotoControlEn Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
I bet Argentina has better weather than Russia. Both countries have beautiful women, but Polish gals are my top pick. Too bad for me, I finally got rich, but I'm too old for those beauties.
@wintermute-5973
@wintermute-5973 Жыл бұрын
Great video… Thank you …. I’ve been riding for 40 years and learned some new techniques
@Kastro-kc9jz
@Kastro-kc9jz 10 ай бұрын
Im proud i found this acc bro youre literally top 3 safe instructor
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
Andrei, a Russian, in Argentina, while I'm in the USA, watching your vid. Tech is amazing when used for good. I've been riding 60 years, but there are a few channels I watch for fun, & reinforcement of things I knew, but might be rusty on. You remind me of Greg on the motojitsu channel. You guys should do a collab some day! Anyway, I subbed & will stay for a while. You are doing good for the world, and I wish you all the best.
@MotoControlEn
@MotoControlEn Жыл бұрын
Thanks!😊
@Amuzic
@Amuzic Жыл бұрын
In my 25 years of riding i had only once got my front wheel locked up and i was in a stop and go traffic riding at little faster than walking speed... It still remained a mystery to me.
@Monkneilius
@Monkneilius Жыл бұрын
likely slick surface like old oil spill
@blinDTiger0.01
@blinDTiger0.01 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a content on something people don't talk about
@nguyenlam7961
@nguyenlam7961 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing guide. But the sad truth nowadays is that many are going as fast as they can without keeping a safe distance. Shouldn't let every braking be an emergency one.
@TravelLikeWater
@TravelLikeWater Жыл бұрын
Very educational. Good to train and retrain and keep honing your (braking) skills.
@ballerblocks
@ballerblocks Жыл бұрын
I was saved by my rear brake, on the motorway, but I also acted quickly as I am one of those rear brake only riders...I shifted my weight to the back and just kept on the rear brake, and when I felt the fade, that's when i started using the fronts. but over time, I tend to use rears in corners and front on the straight.
@unknownpornstar2327
@unknownpornstar2327 Жыл бұрын
Same, after crashing, I keep to rear brake only in corners and using gears to slow and front when fully upright or when I know my tires are warm
@arunkurian9367
@arunkurian9367 Жыл бұрын
Rear brakes If its minor, otherwise both with mild pressure...
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's better to just use the front brake. Pressing the rear brake too quickly or in the wrong time may cause the rear wheel to slide
@ballerblocks
@ballerblocks Жыл бұрын
@@nerychristian oh I agree, I had a small crash a couple of days ago, due to oil dumped on the road, but I have to admit the rear brake thing is only in ideal conditions, but I also find that the more powerful your bike is, the bigger the engine braking is, so it has reduced my depending on the rear recently.
@andymcm6902
@andymcm6902 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very useful info. Cheers
@RobinRobin-kz7qw
@RobinRobin-kz7qw 7 ай бұрын
Hi Andrey, Related to the STANDUP-EFFECT whilst braking in corners I can confirm these explanations from my practice - especially with my Ducati with 16inch wheels. Many drivers who heard about this 16inch-effect refused to drive this ABS-less DUC. I myself considered this and accustomed very early, so I used it perfectly and easy in narrow and fast changing curves in our Blackforest Mountains. Still remember the headshakes of some bikers - watching me braking lately in "vertex". =Made me SMILE/Grin instead.... Druzhba Robin
@alifaizan4377
@alifaizan4377 Жыл бұрын
Spot on video. After riding for 10 years on many different motorcycles, I've realized that the rear brake is completely useless. Even if you cut off the rear brake, you can ride your bike pretty safely and smoothly with just your front brake
@junglejarred6366
@junglejarred6366 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I never took any formal training and basically taught myself to ride and i have always used combined braking favoring the front. It just feels natural
@unknownpornstar2327
@unknownpornstar2327 Жыл бұрын
After crashing from low side I’m terrified to ever use my front brake unless completely upright
@justajobro1266
@justajobro1266 Жыл бұрын
I don't even ride a motorcycle but combined braking is the best. If you're going to park you use rear but if you have to stop you have to combined break
@Maneras03
@Maneras03 Жыл бұрын
@@unknownpornstar2327even upright is dangerous dude break too hard and you’ll lock your tire like I did never used the rear break👎
@luisbarrios2422
@luisbarrios2422 Ай бұрын
Practice, Practice and Practice. Braking correctly is crucial, therefore do not go faster than you can bring it to a full stop without losing control of your bike. This video is a must for new riders... Thaank you,
@Tracer9GTRider8
@Tracer9GTRider8 7 ай бұрын
Works great casting it from my Android phone to my Android TV. 55" screen makes it much easier to see. That car around that right handed was a perfect example of you not committing in the RH turn due to limited visibility.
@rami-arjoss
@rami-arjoss Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video, an excellent and comprehensive explanation
@yunan9610
@yunan9610 Жыл бұрын
I had a pretty nasty lowside because I'm not used to do the combined braking. Gotta practice it more. The only time I used rear brake is when braking downhill to slow down
@moverhh
@moverhh Жыл бұрын
Look at the size of the brakes. Rear brake can't handle much power and overheats easily. Best you use engine brake and both brakes downhill.
@moverhh
@moverhh Жыл бұрын
@@sk8n854 almost always in emergency braking you have to hit the front brake hard. This needs practice. If you riding down a steep slope, rear brake gives little to nothing (at a meadow you will still accelerating with rear brake on) stopping power.
@bryanvega8672
@bryanvega8672 Жыл бұрын
Very informative for an incoming rider like me. I'm having trouble when it comes to safe braking especially front brake.
@goon_eg1089
@goon_eg1089 Жыл бұрын
If you have decent brake u should learn to use 1 or 2 fingers, I learned the hard way.
@bryanvega8672
@bryanvega8672 Жыл бұрын
@@goon_eg1089 probably my four finger braking is not a good habit. I will apply your advice once I got my bike. Thanks!
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
On your way out for a ride, go to a parking lot & practice for 10 minutes. It warms up your senses, and your tires!
@bryanvega8672
@bryanvega8672 Жыл бұрын
@@savage22bolt32 I appreciate it. Thanks!
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
@@bryanvega8672 I just bumped into this channel, but have been watching a guy in so-cal called motojitsu. He's very blunt and has some good drills to practice. I think Andrei & Greg are twin sons of different mothers! My 35 yo daughter just started road riding, & we do some of the drills together. Good for her, & good for this old guy too! Wish you all the best, keep the rubber side down!
@zerotonine807
@zerotonine807 Жыл бұрын
A very good Video which sums up Braking very well, especially for Beginners. Especially with modern ABS on the Bikes using both Brakes without fear should be trained from time to time to avoid panic grabs in traffic situations.
@huangmonkey
@huangmonkey 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this extremely informative video. Saving lives!
@byu55s
@byu55s Жыл бұрын
Lesson learned, don't use breaks
@devaljain5127
@devaljain5127 3 ай бұрын
😅
@Sun-ng7gj
@Sun-ng7gj Ай бұрын
Instructions unclear
@axmbuzzy01
@axmbuzzy01 Ай бұрын
Use legs 😂😂😂
@mrfashionguy1
@mrfashionguy1 16 күн бұрын
Every time I've fallen (I'm upgrading from an old 125 to a new R6, so I'm using this one as a beater to learn what to and what not to do) I thought I was locking the rear cause I don't have abs. Now I think they were low sides from over braking on a shitty old front tire. This is massively useful info, thank you!
@paulpugh2480
@paulpugh2480 Ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this so well.
@Dwit2EEs
@Dwit2EEs Жыл бұрын
My rear brake hasn't been used for the better part of 1 year (its disconnected). Needless to say, me and that front brake have become best of friends
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
My single cylinder four stroke bike has so much compression, I hardly use fr or rr brakes most of the time. Edit: When slowing, I tap to let drivers see the brake light, and then a gentle fr brake squeeze as I downshift into 2nd & 1st.
@georgejameson9317
@georgejameson9317 Жыл бұрын
Both brakes have their place. Combined braking for all normal stops. Rear braking only when at slow speed on wet grass or gravel. On sport or naked bikes quick stops from speed both but large bias to front after weight transfer starts. Braking on turns well covered in video if you are leaning and lock a wheel. Riding dirt bikes magnify all these rules and is great training for anyone that has access.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын
@@georgejameson9317 Indeed, 20% braking power can be the difference between stopping in time and stopping slightly after the time to stop. It's also super helpful in the low speed crashes that are most common as it helps smooth out the acceleration and stabilize the biek. Pretty much the only time to actively avoid using it is if you're leaned over and might need to reduce the amount of brake you're using.
@forthcoming-d8694
@forthcoming-d8694 Жыл бұрын
Great video bro, very informative & well centered on the subject of proper braking 👍 but I use engine brake more, I have a 2019 CB1000-R and after 2 years of riding alert, distraction free, DUI free & Tiredness Free, I have been using only engine brake cause I can’t afford new brake pads 😧
@davidmcglumphy2240
@davidmcglumphy2240 Жыл бұрын
I learned long ago that brakes are my enemy. Using them takes away the kinetic energy (motion) that came from burning gasoline, so like you, I drive in such a way as to minimize brake use. The results are better gasoline mileage and less wear on the brakes thus making them last longer. So what is this "such a way"? Don't tailgate.
@matoko123
@matoko123 Жыл бұрын
In which case I'd say you need to start practising for that situation when a car stopped at a junction for no reason whatsoever pulls right into your path with no escape route. These things happen and it doesn't matter how tuned in you are at the time you've got 6m to come to a stop.
@forthcoming-d8694
@forthcoming-d8694 Жыл бұрын
@matoko123 I agree ☝️ good point. Yes indeed it happened To me about 5 times ! I built a second nature of using rear brake first In panic situations ! After rear brake release I slowly use front brake as accessory 👍😎
@jiggs_life_goals
@jiggs_life_goals Жыл бұрын
Great video man!! I hope to be riding again soon so this is a good reminder!!
@zubesR
@zubesR Жыл бұрын
I love this vid, even more so the training clips you put
@justjeff4173
@justjeff4173 Жыл бұрын
Learn to ride in the dirt if you want to learn how to brake
@sushitraxh6736
@sushitraxh6736 Жыл бұрын
this is what I always tell my colleagues because of extensive videos and actual demonstrations I learned from Yamaha . But my colleagues/friends would just laugh it off since they were already riding ahead of me for about 5-8 years. They have a really bad riding habits especially in braking performance, it' part of our tradition (esp. asian mopeds with attachments/wagons) to use rear brake and less of the front, from old riders being passed down to newer generation. I dunno maybe our transpot regulatory commisision is just too easy and our government is very stupid. EDIT: I'm from the Philippines
@jdoe981
@jdoe981 Жыл бұрын
I just started riding 110cc bike. I'm 59 years old, lol. This was very helpful, thank you.
@hassanabdullah4044
@hassanabdullah4044 11 ай бұрын
Everyday motorcycle braking summarized really well. Thank you
@beri232
@beri232 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always used rear brakes as my primary brake and front brakes only in addition for a quick stop. Easier to control a rear brake lockup then a front brake lockup. Good practice for hill stops/starts also.
@itsnotbleach
@itsnotbleach Жыл бұрын
Thank you right.....I use alot of rear brake. But on the highway or high speed I use front brake.
@martinhauk1852
@martinhauk1852 Жыл бұрын
I usually lead with the rear brake and stop with the front
@krytenLister
@krytenLister Жыл бұрын
If you cant use your front brake as primary, you need to go and do some training to learn to brake properly before things end badly
@nerychristian
@nerychristian Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Using the rear brake too much will cause the rear wheel to skid and lose control. Rear brake should only be used at slow speeds. The front brakes are stronger and will help you stop more quickly.
@beri232
@beri232 Жыл бұрын
@@nerychristian been riding this way for 33 years and always stayed rubber-side-down. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’d definitely prefer changing front brake pads over the rears. Lol
@justcoffee3617
@justcoffee3617 Жыл бұрын
I have 2200 miles on my new bike and have never used my rear brakes, because I broke off the pedal climbing stuff you shouldn’t be climbing on a street bike as a new rider. Engine breaking and front breaks work great for Florida riding, or maybe it just works for me because this is how I have learned to ride this bike. New break pedal was ordered 2 months ago and gets here this week so I will have both breaks finally
@MrSparker95
@MrSparker95 Жыл бұрын
Engine braking applies braking to the rear wheel though. So I assume that all rear brake effects still apply.
@justcoffee3617
@justcoffee3617 Жыл бұрын
Break pedal is on and feels really foreign to me. Way softer than front breaks and down shifting, not a fan of the rear break just yet.
@Maneras03
@Maneras03 Жыл бұрын
@@justcoffee3617I never used my rear brake either for that same reason dude felt weird learned the same way downshifting and front break until I locked my front wheel one day and shattered my ankle and knee…wish I would have tried implementing it more
@justaboyhubawlesie5883
@justaboyhubawlesie5883 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! It opened my eyes so much!!
@pouchamgonmei6343
@pouchamgonmei6343 Жыл бұрын
Just bought my first bike and this video is very helpful,🙏thank you
@anastasijajelic3298
@anastasijajelic3298 Жыл бұрын
I use the rear brake only on the lights or when I stop uphill. The rest of the time it is always the front brake with controlled progressive squeeze. Only once I have had the situation that I slam with my crouch against the tank...it was the interesting experience I must say. Wonder how the male population would felt in such situation😄
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus Жыл бұрын
We learn to sing in Soprano range after that slam. 😂
@SFV4
@SFV4 Жыл бұрын
As you stated, it’s possible to apply a lot of breaking power while leaning. The more the bike leans, the lesser the braking gradient must be. In other words, the more a bike leans the smaller the braking variations must be. So if you don’t lean, you can quickly apply or release more brake, but if you lean, you must gently apply or release more brake.
@infinite_saurabh
@infinite_saurabh Жыл бұрын
Exactly... braking softly while doing the curve...
@infinite_saurabh
@infinite_saurabh Жыл бұрын
The lean angle is inversely proportional to the amount of braking applied...
@SFV4
@SFV4 Жыл бұрын
@@infinite_saurabh not exactly… You can still use a lot of breaking while leaning. But the more you lean the smaller the variations must become. When you are in a straight line you can apply or remove a lot of breaking quickly. But if you apply the same amount of breaking while leaning, you can’t remove or add breaking power as quickly as it would be possible if not leaning.
@SFV4
@SFV4 Жыл бұрын
@@infinite_saurabh Try it for yourself. Go to a parking lot. Then brake and instead of releasing most of your breaking, keep some while leaning your bike and start a circle. Your bike will simply keep slowing down while you are turning. There is a village not far from where I live and one of the roads entering it has a 90 degree turn that ends at the village entry with a stop sign. So you basically have to go from 80km/h to 0 while leaning.
@infinite_saurabh
@infinite_saurabh Жыл бұрын
@@SFV4 yess exactly...I got your point...and I love counter steering ...it's fun to dodge vehicles so nearby
@sebbwebbo7557
@sebbwebbo7557 Жыл бұрын
Great Video - breaking with a motorcycle isn't easy to learn and it's hard to master. It took me many thousand kms until I had the feeling that I really can control the bike - and I'm still learning every day. I often use the rear brake in tight corners / hairpins to stabilize the bike. And I'm happy that I always had bikes with ABS - I guess it saved me 2 - 3 times during my early riding career :D
@MickH60
@MickH60 9 ай бұрын
Leave your rear brake ALONE in corners, trail brake with the front, learn proper trail braking, you'll apply a slight too much pressure one day with the rear and you'll be on the road before you know it, the front is better to use into and in corners as long as you know how to use it properly.
@TheBlade1001
@TheBlade1001 Жыл бұрын
Great video mant thanks for explaining clearly
@kai-uweoch1159
@kai-uweoch1159 Жыл бұрын
During my driving training (on a non-ABS bike!) I was tough to completely ignore the rear brake in an emergency situation. Instead focus entirely on brining the front to the maximum, just at the friction limit. That's hard enough. No one can do that for both brakes, maybe a racing driver manages this. The rear brake is the low speed brake that stabilized the bike. For the motorcycle license I needed to show full braking at 50, 70 and 90km/h - quite frightening. Now with an ABS bike this is MUCH easier and MUCH safer!
@MaaZeus
@MaaZeus Жыл бұрын
Pretty much same here. Front brake is what we are told to use most, just learn to do it progressively. We can try to learn using both in emergency situation but most likely we still end up using only one when shit happens and then it is better to use front rather than rear. Rear brake is mostly for low speed maneuvering in a parking lot or tight U-turns.
@PAD32
@PAD32 Жыл бұрын
The rear break is useful when you have the time to stop, or when you want to adjust your trajectory in corners. But when you need to break hard, just focus on the front.. If you handle the front correctly, the rear won't make any difference, as it will have no grip left.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I love that you mentioned using rear to adjust trajectory.
@mhoeij
@mhoeij Жыл бұрын
For the fastest stop, you can use the rear brake during the first second of braking. Then release it after 1 second (on non-ABS, on ABS you can simply hold it), because at that point there shouldn't be much weight left on the rear wheel.
@PAD32
@PAD32 Жыл бұрын
@@mhoeij you're right, but in order for it to be more effective, it requires some serious skills. I ride regularly on track, so I'm relatively fast, and quite good on the brakes compared to most riders in my group. But I'm still not skilled enough to use the rear effectively without upsetting the bike.. It requires a lot of practice
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
@@PAD32 if you can get some time on a dirt bike, you can get the feel at a lower & safer speed.
@mhoeij
@mhoeij Жыл бұрын
@@PAD32 Officially, we're supposed to start with both brakes, and continually increase front brake pressure while reducing rear brake pressure. But I find that gradually reducing rear brake pressure is simply too complicated. So in my practice stops, for hard stops I simply press the rear and let go. That's the only way I can (a) brake hard while also (b) using both brakes, while also (c) not locking the rear wheel (or perhaps it does lock, but by releasing the rear brake within 1 second, I wouldn't notice this anyway). In a true emergency stop, my strategy would be to use front brake + engine braking (no downshifting, just closing the throttle). If my foot was already above the pedal then I'll press it and release it. But if I wasn't covering the rear brake, then I won't use it (I often cover the front brake, and sometimes the rear brake too). People often think that by practice one can find out how much rear brake one can use before it locks. But I find that this doesn't really work, if you brake hard enough in the front, then the rear will lock with any amount of rear brake pressure, so if we brake hard enough, we have to fully release the rear brake (on non-ABS, obviously it's much easier on an ABS bike).
@claudiogatta6649
@claudiogatta6649 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, great explanations. Well done.
@juancarlospaniagua316
@juancarlospaniagua316 Жыл бұрын
Keep loving your channel! Keep it up .. greetings from Central America
@Aven_Krishna
@Aven_Krishna Жыл бұрын
Buy a bike which have ABS... That's it.
@md.masumanamsovon2184
@md.masumanamsovon2184 3 ай бұрын
But we should learn combined break for our skill development.
@TheQuietBeast
@TheQuietBeast Күн бұрын
Is it better to start with no ABS to learn. And then in the future you might buy a bike with ABS?
@jmead6121
@jmead6121 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your tutorial love it I've an active rider now for over 50 + yrs & I still often practice slow speed maneuvers U Turns & panic Breaking ..its so much much more cars on the road now days compared to when I 1 st started riding in the 60 s so much more dangerous with the sear # of cars & detracted driver on the phone & or fiddling with the radio Thanks again Love uR Channel
@norbertratvai3822
@norbertratvai3822 Ай бұрын
great video! thanks a lot for your time and skills! much appreciated! 👏👍
@spectator5919
@spectator5919 Жыл бұрын
very informative! tnx
@johnnysmythe7767
@johnnysmythe7767 Жыл бұрын
Your information and explanation is Excellent! 😊
@dadwillfixit
@dadwillfixit Жыл бұрын
Over the many hours of practice I got so good at using the front brake quickly that I almost have 0 time before the rear skids even if my foot is barely on it. So nowadays I just don't use it for high power braking at all. This is a very light naked bike, so on high power braking usually the rear is hovering a few cm above the ground anyway.
@wijdankhan3136
@wijdankhan3136 Жыл бұрын
Great content keep up the good work 👍😊
@A.C.StreetRacer
@A.C.StreetRacer Жыл бұрын
I usually do down shifting & revv matching along with combi braking. Trust me when i say its the most effective method, I've controlled a death wobble with this method
@erwinerwin1245
@erwinerwin1245 11 ай бұрын
Just got my M1 License a few days ago. Will be taking a weekend safety course in a few weeks and then I will buy a learner bike like a Yamaha V Twin 250. I had no idea till I watched this video on how dangerous braking is . Now is pulsating the front brake as on, off, on, off, on off, a safe and effective way to brake. (It is almost like ABS braking)
@maakatipa4613
@maakatipa4613 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Very informative. Thanks.
@hellosambit
@hellosambit Ай бұрын
I ride with front brakes only. I use the press-release press-release method for stopping at higher or even lower speeds. For emergency braking situation, the press release method on front brakes proves to be safest as weight transfers in fractions to the front everytime the brake is pressed n released. Thankyou.
@sammyrothrock6981
@sammyrothrock6981 7 ай бұрын
I use both! That's why there put there! I usually feather rear first then add front. The front accounts for 70% of braking though
@ummsuregames7886
@ummsuregames7886 3 ай бұрын
This is very important to learn early on while riding so you can get in the habit of doing it before you have to break old breaking habits!!
@1Skymed
@1Skymed Жыл бұрын
Excellent Video, a new subscriber.
@english.ricardo
@english.ricardo Жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome. I learn so much from it. Thanks a lot.
@sergiocollazo3191
@sergiocollazo3191 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done video. I learned something
@writerinrwanda
@writerinrwanda 11 күн бұрын
Really helpful, thanks!
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