Best filming and editing by MXA, ever. The ultra short take @8.07- to -8:10 above G.H. hill is worth a million bucks! Too short for many to appreciate. Awesome video ! Thanks. 👍

Glad you guys are consistent from last year alot of other guys put the yamaha in front and it never changed much from last year

I'm just waiting for the day that Suzuki gets 2nd to last, it's gonna happen in my lifetime I know it.

MXA is indeed the "GOAT" of magazines, testing, advice & articles. Best of best in my opinion👍. Been reading their mag since late 80s. Keep up the great work for us MX addicts! #KTM #Yamaha #Maxima

Travis you killed it on this video! Great job! The stage shots came out so sick.

The best reviews in the industry hands down

I really like the gas-gas..I'm thinking about getting a mc250 2-stroke because I can actually maintain one without going broke.

Get what u like and make it urs. They all have their ups and downs. I got the 22 crf450 and I love it. Did gold valves. Thing is sweet. Rode the kawi and ktm before I made my purchase. I’m happy with it

Drop that 250 shootout guys. MXA all the way 🤜

Taking production to a new level. Pretty cool, I appreciate it. Good content too

Great analysis guys. I like how you break down what bike is best for "Vet, Pro, Working Class". Definitely gives more insight into the bikes pros and cons. Si, Christchurch, New Zealand.

Really like the new Yamahas nice job adding all that blue looks great.

Guys I love your videos but you keep having the same problem in your edits, the sound level of the bikes and the music is way too high compared to the sound level of your voice, the result is a video that you have to always change the Volume. Just my 2 cents.

Great job with the shootout! I was struggling between the FC450 and the YZF450 recently and ultimately pulled the trigger on the Yamaha. I have primarily ridden Austrian bikes since 2016, with the exception of my 2019 CRF450r (classic case of it's the right bike for some but it wasn't for me. I couldn't stand the suspension on the Honda...loved the motor though). I love the lowered suspension on the FC, as motocross bikes have gotten too tall, which definitely makes it feel more nimble in the corner. I had always thought the ergos and handling of the YZ450f wouldn't suit my style...and then I rode the bike. I love the motor, power tuner app. and the KYB suspension is the best stock setup money can buy and it corners so much better than people give it credit for. I run the sag at 103 and front fork height at 5mm (I actually like the handle bars in the forward mounts as well) and because the bike is so planted and comes into a corner with unrivaled stability, I actually end up cornering faster than I did on my previous Husqvarna...which was hard for me to wrap my head around. I also love how easy the setup is and I don't have to mess with air forks anymore. I have to do the WP Pro Conversion kits (cone valve) on my Husqvarna/KTM models to achieve a similar high quality feel and even then I still like the KYB more. Needless to say, I'm very impressed with the Yamaha.

Best shoot out so far 👍👊

22:40 Wonder if the cooling issues are the same as the previous generation... Shame to hear haven’t heard much about that on the new ones until now.

Great piece. and the Music was awesome!

Now that's an INTRO 👊.. BOOM! KUDOS MXA OLD G 😉

I like the honesty of this review.

love you guys doin this keepit up

So for the Kawasaki, with a few upgrades it's right up there at the top right? Stiffer fork spring a couple more hp, easy to get, smaller rear brake rotor and brake position, everyone is going to get new plastic eventually. I didn't hear much about the great handling and stability?

Love my 2020 60+ hp crf monster!!

I can attest to the bullet proof reliability of the Yamaha. I made a street-legal 2019 YZ450FX supermoto back in 2018 and still have yet to even check the valves or do a top end on my bike and ir rides better than it did new. All I did was change the oil every 8-10 hrs, air filter twice and clean/lube the chain. I haven't even had to adjust the chain! I rip the hell out of this bike on the streets and even rip it on the highway and I have not had a problem. It gets 42 MPG avg with all street riding. Yamaha is #1 to me, I love all of their bikes. I used to be a Honda fanboy.

Awesome production. Looking at getting a new MX bike for track work. I currently ride a TE300 for trails and some track. I would consider myself a Vet beginner, if I am generous maybe pushing towards intermediate. I ride mix of intermediate/vet tracks or sometimes the senior tracks depending on location. I am also 210lbs. I was initially thinking a Gas Gas MC350 or a Husky FC350, but I have never ridden a 350 and probably wont get the opportunity to try one. I rode my friend new YZ450F recently and loved the suspension but felt the power was too much for me. Wondering now if the FC450 would be more suitable given my weight?

I like how the main complaint about the Yamaha is that it’s too loud lmao. Not really performance related but I guess it’s worth pointing out.

I FINALLY got my very first bike 6 months ago, at the age of 32. I didn’t want to get anything crazy, and it had to be budget friendly (for the wife, of course). I got me an SSR 189, which fit my needs perfectly. I’ve got about 15 hours under my belt, and am already looking forward to my next bike, which will probably be a KX. Idk if I would get me a 450, so it’ll probably be a KX 250. Maybe an SX. Idk all these bikes are so damn good. I definitely jumped into the world of riding at just the right time.

Y’all should do a factory/race edition 450 shootout

Agree that there isn't a "bad" bike in the shootout. However, if given the chance, it really does pay to be able to ride all the different brands to see which one fits you best. Best of luck if you can make that happen.

Great video. I really enjoyed it.

Music and footage 💪👍👍👍

Yeah that FC450 you can have it. My engine blew it 22 hours with 18 oil changes and filters. Carbon fiber subframe cracked in half my linkage cracked that's made out of carbon fiber and my front axle broke during a race. Too thin and too hard up front. Just sold it thank God. Picked up the 2022 YZ450F. Love the taller seat and power delivery.

This was all the same feedback/opinions from the 2021 shootout. What’s the summary list of new things on the bikes from last year? None?

So nice that the race numbers start with 11 (instead of X0). This correlates to the total number of test bikes. Thank you.

Where is Fantic XXF 450????????

The top down view of the bikes at 1.40 is quite interesting to see the widths. It's funny how the slimmest looking bike from that angle is also the heaviest and makes you wonder if all Suzuki needs to do is update the motor to be in the running again as they could probably lose 15 pounds just in the engine

the smock was cool

What is the actual reason that the crf is the best pro bike? Just removing bad parts couldn't be the reason.. Looks and whips 😋 but not enough Thanks for solid testing 👌

Going with the Suzuki. Can’t go wrong. Always loved them!

4th and 6th in the other two shootouts that are out but MXA has the Husky not only the 450 winner but bike of the year. Crazy how they praise the lower ride and how well the suspension works and others say it doesn't work well at all. Oh well it's cool to get all the different opinions and decide for yourself

Enough adds, brutal to watch!

Hellzz yeah - HUSKY baby !! :o) Spout time !!

As someone who rides a 21 KX250 (same plastics and frame as the 450), I had to laugh at the "most likely bolt to strip out" comment. That 8mm bolt holding on the side panels is one of the very few on my bike that HASN'T come out on its own or needed replaced.

Good Afternoon, 👍 way cool! You lay it very well. I'm going to give up the 2 smokers. They are to good for my health. But, with this old Vet-Rider, I'm going green. May have a few more bones to brake, worth it👌 Been looking for a while now so may be going Blue tomorrow. I'm thinking the kx450x, and throwing the walker away. Track or trails, roll that throttle and give it hell

Just got an mc450. 2023. Put the map switch on, opened air box, cut the stupid cone out of the muffler (much louder ) and you got a ktm basically.

Funny how the Husky won again when ALL the other shootouts by different magazines nobody picked it 1st, or even 2nd and had major issues with handling and suspension. Cause of the lowered suspension, it sits to low in the stroke. WTF don't believe me check out the other shootouts!

KTM Action magazine, 😂 all year long the same

Like the WP suspension must be a west coast thing. Anybody I know that buys these bikes and seen on East coast the first thing they do is conversion kit on suspension .

I’m 6’4” and hate the lowered suspension on the Husky, the KTM works better for tall guys. I can see shorter guys liking the lowered suspension. The Honda with a re valve is an entirely different bike.

Best 450 moto reviews like always. My only comment - "Bargain Bike Winner - Suzuki?" It is only 600 less than the Yamaha and you'll get 2x that back when you resell the Yamaha. Not to mention the Yamaha is twice the bike. $600 dollars, that's like 6 tanks of gas - Suzuki has given up. Let's keep it real.

I have a 2022 KX450 and I love my bike it is amazing!

Dude wtf this is like a movie hahah so cool

I felt the frame on the KTM more rigid than my Yz450f. A lot of testing for y’all must have been done but I don’t like the frame/suspension combo on the KTM

Suzuki is the easy choice for me. Most affordable, reliable, I like the powercurve.

I lov rmz

Nice video, 125 shootout coming?

Is there going to be a 2023 450 shootout this year. It’s been almost three months in the new year and there is no shootout for the 450s yet. The 2023 450 shootout is well over due

They all need to bring out a 450 2t. The 2t will have more peak hp and be lighter and more agile than the 4t, but the 4t will in general be easier to ride and have a broader power delivery

BLU CRU 💙

At the end of the day if anyone picks a bike based on what anyone else thinks isnt getting the right bike. Pick you colour and go have fun.

What was the 2 muffler's good for?

Kawi or bust! 😶‍🌫️

title sponsor not mentioned as per usual , smoke and mirror shootout haha motocross austrian magazine

Haha you munters sneakily try not to look biased toward KTM yet you won't list a single flaw for the bike as opposed to 5-10 flaws for every other bike. and yes the KTM has its flaws, we have 2 in our stables.

Oh Suzuki i remember when literally their 2t 125,250 and 4t 250,450 were the best bikes by far. They could easily get there again in one season of serious revamps. Bring back an improved 2015 frame , add 3-5hp, strip 5-10lbs i promise this will be best bike of the year . No bike is as fast on a pro mx track as a dialed in Suzuki guaranteed

I don't get it I've watched other 450 shootouts and the KX450 has won like 2 or 3 years in a row. I watched another video of the 2022 450 shootout and they chose the KX450to win?

The Hardest decision of would be. To pick the best chassi to put my CR500 motor into.

HONDA😎👍🏻

When is the 2022 125 shoot out?

No wonder why Suzuki doesn't give anyone bikes for tests. Also funny that the cheapest bike got last and the most expensive bike won.

Yk this list is good when the Yamaha isn't overhyped to all hell. Good job not being mindless drones MXA 👍

You guys should put the ranking numbers from last year for the number plates numbers

It really is sad to see Suzuki falling behind, they use to be one of the best bikes back in the day, their 2 strokes were the best and the early years of rmzs 08-14 did amazing too! Then the r and d department, I'm assuming lost funding.

Kawasaki is my number 1 period with yamaha in close second

By why is the Honda the best at whips? These reviews pretty much sound the same as they did 2012. In terms of all the bikes characteristics.

That's a yummy Honda

Suzuki might be last in the shootout, but it's never last on race day. Might not be first, but not last. And I love my 19 RMZ 450. Probably going with the kx450sr this spring tho

Don't exclude TM Racing in future test, otherwise concise review.

i gotta 14 kx450f and a 22 mc450 and im still a bigger fan of the kx. more snappy and ready for the get down. the mc is cool and fun, just not as pipy as id like

Suzuki is for man…no electronic no problem😎😂

When will MXA do an 85cc shootout?

I do not follow the races on a regular basis, however when I tune in, a KAW or KTM seems to be out front……always. ??

What's the title of that epic metal from the intro

Should show the rwhp and torque of each bike.

I’ll take me a third place Team Green, please… The pressure of being a winner is too much for me! Lol

where is tm ??

Will you add the new Stark electric bike to the lineup next year?

Time to learn how alloy frames can work before saying silly things about rigidity.

Also on the mxa website: Kawasaki vs Yamaha 2021 "In short, the KX450 is a much more pleasant bike bike to spend time on, once you fix a few suspension, brake and set-up flaws. However, the Yamaha is considerably faster, more reliable and better suspended-and if you race motocross, those positive YZ450 traits pay bigger dividends than the KX450’s pleasant demeanor. Thus, we’d rather ride the 2021 Kawasaki KX450, but we’d rather race the 2021 Yamaha YZ450F. " Then why does the Kawasaki finish ahead of the Yamaha? 😵‍💫 I get shootouts are subjective, and would have accepted the fact that anything other than Honda, Suzuki, or husky finished first.

SO obviously we can all appreciate all of the time put into testing and racing these bikes over several months, and the amazing production team that puts these videos together! That being said, there are a few flaws in this testing type. Firstly, the MXA test riders all seem to be pro-level riders which on one hand is good because they can feel out the bikes better than everyone else, but on the other hand, 90% of the audience are not pros and may have very different opinions about the bikes rankings and characteristics (for example, they rank the Suzuki last but a beginner level rider may love the yellow bike the most for its easy powerband), and it's not really fair to the different skill level of riders. Second, I understand that different companies profit by sponsoring these shootouts, but it is not accurate to just slap Dunlop tires and aftermarket bars on these bikes, because that's not how they're sold from the showroom, and just the tires alone can drastically change the handling characteristics of these bikes. Additionally, it makes no sense to weigh the bikes without fluids, because nobody rides a bike with no gas, oil, and coolant, and those can boost the weight of the bike by about 8-10lbs, depending on tank size. Again I love to see these videos and read the articles because MXA probably puts more time into these shootouts than all the other magazines combined, but there are still other factors to keep in mind for the average consumer that could probably be reflected better. Also, this may just be because I ride Yamaha, but I was a little offended when they said the blue bike is the one no testers want to race. Maybe it's because y'all get to ride hundreds of different bikes, and maybe it's different out there in Cali, but every race I've been to has more Yamahas than all other bikes combined, likely because of their bulletproof nature, reasonable price tag, and few major flaws. They're also not near as wide and uncomfortable as the non-Yamaha riders make it seem haha

Maybe put the RM on a diet with a project bike series. Also engine tuning tips and suspension modifications. Let Suzuki know you’ll try to help them sell their bikes.🇨🇦🇺🇸4ever

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I had been riding since I was a kid and was a vet rider but it’s been ten years since I’ve risen and even longer since I had my own bikes band rode alnost every day my ex wife wanted me to get rid of my bikes when my daughter was born I always thought I would get back into it but I never imagined how long I was caught up w work , mortgage and everything else my daughter is 22 now and I’ve been thinking a lot about riding and reminiscing it’s such a stress reliever when you are riding your focused on just riding . I would like a bike for single track use mostly but a bike I can also take to the motocross track as well I will be fifty in a month so I’m going to take it easy at first because I’m not going to bounce right up like i used to after a crash

Not surprised by these results at all. Funny all the people chiming in about “working man’s bike” when trying to bag on the Austrians. A lot of weekend warriors ride these things off-road, not just track. The overheating issues on many of the Japanese bikes are hardly a secret. The new Hondas are pretty, but the Japanese have a long way to go if they ever want my money again. Sometimes it seems like they aren’t even trying. R&D teams just seem too far removed from production. 25 years later we’re still trying to make these Aluminum chassis work? 🤣 Josh races a stock KTM at a national. Throw a grand + at the Japanese bikes if you want to do that.

can you please do a 85cc shoot out.

where is tm mx 450?

Wow I'm shocked seeing the husky at the top

Skip to 4:45

I know this is old news now but I rode a 22 yz450f recently and the only thing I liked was the power the bike overall felt terribly fat and top heavy with bucking suspension that kicked you around everywhere, I’m a 175lb without gear)

Lmao Husky first? It’s so obviously undeserved. Plastic subframes that need to be replaced for the most minute of impacts... I don’t think so Tim.

Should drop suzuki And put the 350 in the mix way more relevant to the non pro level maybe even just 1 of the 3 wood be orsom