MotoGP - West German 500cc GP - Hockenheimring 1983.

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yds250

13 жыл бұрын

Another great circuit ruined.

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@timcolder2789 3 жыл бұрын

Great season battle between Roberts and Spencer. Always a massive fan of the King but you have to give credit to Freddie Spencer for the way he took the title on a bike that had only been introduced and developed the season before and was he still learning the tracks. In 1985 Spencer proved he was a class act when he won the double in 250 and 500 classes, riding twice in a day. Even Rossi has not done that.

@MrE-zs1gu 6 ай бұрын

The Yamaha V4 had the same development time as the Honda V3. Both introduced in 1982. The missing cylinder meant the Honda 3 would always be a transitory bike.

@edwardsamuelwatts4785 6 ай бұрын

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@kasperkjrsgaard1447 5 ай бұрын

But Rossi did became World Champion in every class possible, 9 wins in total and a racing carreer that lasted 26 years. Something that Fast Freddie Spencer never achieved.

@yds250 11 жыл бұрын

Yes Murray Walker doing the commentary, Murray is more a motorcycle man than F1 man. His father Graham Walker was a TT motorcyle racer and winner there. His father was also a commentator for the BBC doing motor sports events etc.

@user-ks9dj7pn2e 3 жыл бұрын

R.I.P. Murray 1923-2021

@StefanMedici Жыл бұрын

Indeed. He knew Barry Sheene when Barry was a kid as he knew Sheene senior.

@Circuitsofthepast 8 жыл бұрын

The good old days of old Hockenheim. What a shame they destroyed the part through the Woods.

@eldiablo4143 8 жыл бұрын

yeah that b4stard hermann tilke destroyed all the great circuits

@eldiablo4143 8 жыл бұрын

oh yeah and i also like your website, very interesting

@Circuitsofthepast 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I recentely visited the old part of Hockenheim. Soon you will see footage of the current state of the Ostkurve...

@jessestarks3128 5 жыл бұрын

Sad indeed.

@simoneburini4036 4 жыл бұрын

Circuits of the past And still the track is good. Guess you cannot really kill awesomeness

@BringBack500s 12 жыл бұрын

Lo saloei you find all the classic 500cc stuff lol! Stready Eddie was a fearsome competitor who took on the might of Honda in the US and then in the GPs, and beat them. I bet Mr Honda had bad dreams about Eddie... He even poached Freddie's legendary engineer Erv for his last title in '89, so not the most spectacular to look at maybe, but a winner that would go head to head with anyone. This is very rare footage, had not seen this before, many thanks to uploader.

@jameswilson1407 5 ай бұрын

Great race!!!

@MyNaauao 11 жыл бұрын

Any race with the King and Spencer in it is great.

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

ThE King And ThE Fast

@pugaguri 4 жыл бұрын

1983年のＧＰ500が忘れられない！ケニーとフレディのバトルをその時代で生きてきたのは、貴重な体験でした。この年にケニーは引退した。ケニー1951/12/31生まれ、自分1961/12/31生まれ今でもケニー信者です。

@guustentije4817 5 жыл бұрын

the epic Ostkurve.........one of the best and quickest corners ever.........

@kirbyparkwest4392 8 жыл бұрын

Bring back the 2 Strokes.

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

Impossible, My friend. I liked 2S, but i Also enjoy 4s norwadays

@pabloperez4063 3 жыл бұрын

Bring back Barry Sheene!

@davidkris 6 жыл бұрын

What happened to Spenser's lead? we miss from lap 7 to 13 where he dropped from leading?

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

Somewhere between. Engine failure

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

In fact, It was Freddy ,s race

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

Hockenheim became known as ThE "Honda,s curse"....ThE GP took place every 2 years there, alternating w. Nurburgring. In 83, Spencer was leading when this happened. In 85, Spencer was Also leading when he had a tyre failure And was caught by Sarron (Who was awesome in ThE rain that day---the greatest standing ovation from ThE motodrom ever) In 87, Gardner was Also leading when Another mechanical failure occurred In 89, Lawson lost ThE race on board ThE Kanemoto NSR to Rainey in ThE motodrom In 91, something i dont remember prevented Doohan from winning, when he was fighting Kevin And Wayne but he seemed to be in control of ThE race. 5 almost sure wins which fell through by ThE Curse

@nigelmoore6519 4 жыл бұрын

Great race brilliant riders .

@franzneubauer890 2 жыл бұрын

@@pabloperez4063 A big challenge for jeting the engine on this track.

@staticballs2point0 12 жыл бұрын

I almost forgot what a real "full grid" looked like, ah the good old days...

@johnjackman22 5 жыл бұрын

the great hokenheim circuit before they ruined it for F1

@fpreston9527 7 жыл бұрын

Ron Haslem must be Britain's best all time rider ! there isn't much he hasn't done in road racing

@nitrogary1324 6 жыл бұрын

win a world championship????

@colinjrob 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he is a national hero. If you check his credentials are very impressive. Many wins in many classes of racing (other than GPs of course).

@StefanMedici Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Mike the Bike and Barry might have something to say about that. Not to mention John Surtees.

@kasperkjrsgaard1447 5 ай бұрын

Maybe the road racer who has done most different classes, but best? 🤔

@nigelmoore6519 4 жыл бұрын

Lucchinelli great style and rider good race , the best years.

@kasperkjrsgaard1447 5 ай бұрын

In my opinion “Lucky” should have stayed a couple of seasons more with Team Gallina, but obviously a truckload of dollars from Team Honda is hard to resist.

@arakabu114 4 жыл бұрын

"King"kenny vs "Fast"freddie 1983 WGP will be told forever

@dutchsailor6620 7 ай бұрын

The old Hockenheim, before it got destroyed.

@ta-cx6gf 3 жыл бұрын

押しがけスタートが懐かしい。確かこの年からホンダvsヤマハのバトルが激化したんじゃないかな。この前の年はスズキRGΓ+ウンチーニがチャンピオンとってスペンサーがデビューしたはず。

@j-fpilote1576 6 жыл бұрын

Gnarly... Ostkurve without the Mickey Mouse chicane installed for F1 in 1982.

@TrickyMario7654 4 жыл бұрын

Actually, all bike races used the original Ostkurve until the track was redesigned in 2002.

@simoneburini4036 4 жыл бұрын

Bikes didn't need a chicane there, because the speeds were lower

@armorgeddon 8 жыл бұрын

Does anybody know how much horsepower they had in that season and if they did crack 300 km/h at Hockenheim?

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

As far as I can remember, Honda declared 144 HP in 1985 for ThE 4 cylinder....reckon 130 HP for the 3 cylinder in 1983. ThE First time I read ThE top speeds, It was 307 in 1991, Doohan, more or less 165-170 HP. Reckon 290 kmh in 1983, pure estimation, of course I do remember Spencer in Paul Ricard 1984 doing 304 kmh.. Also in 1993, Itoh with ThE NSR Fuel INjection managed 321, which was ThE récord moto ever. (GP moved to Schansering... whatever ThE name, sorry!!+:)

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

@Strange Fruit that was ThE thing!

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

@Strange Fruit you are welcome! In fact, there IS a new "film-documentary" called "ThE UNRIDEABLES"...(at least ThE trailer is un YT), about ThE frightening 500cc...and emphasizes just this, how "peaky" they were, And How close to tragedy those riders at every exit corner

@nyankotiti 3 жыл бұрын

king kenny very coool

@sugarnads 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love Murray Walker 'four laps full of its short distance' (the first time, he got it right at the end)

@hughphillips1427 2 жыл бұрын

He was so annoying.

@MegaMCCrea 11 жыл бұрын

great rrace wheres the rest though?

@cwalden918 6 жыл бұрын

They had to cut it short because of the rain

@raulsabugal3513 5 жыл бұрын

Carreras de verdad y como se vivían las carreras.... no como ahora puro marketing y 4 motos en parrilla... que buenos recuerdos

@pabloperez4063 4 жыл бұрын

Tampoco es eso...! Ahora habrá 23, y no 36...pero todas son pata negra...en esa parrilla hay 2 Yamaha oficiales...3 honda, y 2 Suzuki...el resto eran auténticos aficionados que hoy ni ganarían una copa de veteranos provincial, rodando a 6" por vuelta, siendo doblados 3 veces... Que lucha hubo en esta carrera? Que luchas hay ahora?... He disfrutado desde 1979 las motos, y flipaba antes ...y me sigue encantando ahora. El mundial está increíble, e igual que había antes 2 cracks (en el 83)...y ninguno más, ahora hay ocho o diez que dan la vida por cada décima en pista. No hecho de menos el pasado, al menos en la top class. (Si los 250cc, pero eso es otra historia, y no precisamente culpa de Dorna, si no de los fabricantes japoneses)

@Negronemshow 5 жыл бұрын

Yamaha história antiga as vitórias huashuashuas

@stevecoto7189 Жыл бұрын

KR1 is my Hero.¡!

@panzermatt 12 жыл бұрын

its gone. if you google earth it you can see the new trees planted. for shame!

@TheAlflh 6 жыл бұрын

I Agree ;)

@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED 4 жыл бұрын

Why was Barry Sheene refused permission to race his works Suzuki?

@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tractorboy_19 It does say 1983 in the title. Thanks for the info though. I have been a Barry Sheene fan all of my life but, was totally unaware of this.

@davidkris 6 жыл бұрын

Not sure how to direct message you, but wanted to say thanks. I just subscribed, you've got some amazing content. Thank you so much for sharing it! Not to add to your work load, but I'd love to be able to see your actual full race vintage motogp stuff in one group. Not sure how that is done, but if I can figure it out, I'm sure I'll pick through it over time, and try to help. Also, if you don't have it, I've got this in good quality I can share with you via google drive. (MotoGp.1982. British GP.500cc.ESPN.divx.English.divx) Not much point in my uploading it, as I've not got many followers. (I may be able to get some others, but will have to poke around and see what I can find if you're interested.) If you know how to direct message me not public, I'll give you my email address. Thanks for all the great content and work it takes to get it up there!

@merdone333 6 жыл бұрын

COMODO UNA YAMAHA 4 CILINDRI

@maximusbishop2808 4 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥 🏁🏁🏁amazing what he did🏎️🏎️🏎️ 1:07 🔥 👇👇👇

@Mrheiri 4 жыл бұрын

Yamaha forever,

@JukkaX 4 жыл бұрын

For ever.

@hezekiahmeyers8959 4 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥 🏁🏁🏁the amazig race🏎️🏎️🏎️ 0:54 💯💘 👇👇💜

@dannyhughes8187 5 жыл бұрын

Lousy damn coverage.

@sugarnads 4 жыл бұрын

Danny Hughes it was 1983. Wtf you expect? The racing is fucking awesome unlike todays computer controlled boredom machines.

@hrbeta 4 жыл бұрын

Danny, u’re not a boomer I reckon 😉

@user-be7ri4st1t Ай бұрын

MotoGPではない

@archetypex65 4 жыл бұрын

... indeed! Another great circuit ruined. Destroyed by the political corporatists of the EU. And the great circus. Remain like Spa, Monza and Brands hatch have all been pussified.