TVS Apache 200 Long Term Review - Issues We Faced

TVS Apache 200 Long Term Review - Issues We Faced | MotorBeam

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www.motorbeam.com tests the TVS Apache 200 over a long term to see how it fares in the daily grind. The flagship motorcycle from TVS until the Apache 310 (Akula 310) is launched in July 2017, the Apache 200 has been received well by Indian customers who want a practical 200cc bike which is priced attractively and fun to ride in the city.
Our long term TVS Apache 200 is the carburetted model with Pirelli tyres and sans ABS. The Apache 200 competes with the Pulsar 200 NS and Yamaha FZ25 in the Indian market.
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@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

Hello #NotificationSquad, you guys are early, so why not break that thumbs up button for us? Tell us #MotorBeamers, how has been your long term experience with your bike? We are doing a survey on car/bike service in India, please take 2 minutes to fill out this form for us - goo.gl/forms/5xxCiHUso4C6YnWo2

@Ayushukla7 7 жыл бұрын

MotorBeam I have this bike 😍

@balajichandrasekaran6312 7 жыл бұрын

MotorBeam i needed this video b4 buyin it

@sharavan91 7 жыл бұрын

MotorBeam my rtr 200 only reaches 122km/hr as top speed , after no movement in the Speedoo and mine is brand new ..! what do i do to reach 130km/Hr ..?

@SMRTH1998 7 жыл бұрын

MotorBeam please do a drag race between NEW ktm DUKE 250 and Yamaha fz 25

@ashutosh0011 7 жыл бұрын

@Balaji Chandrasekaran really man u regret buying it!!!

@XTREMEMOTOADVENTURE 7 жыл бұрын

ONE OF THE BEST BIKE IN INDIAN MARKET RIGHT NOW.

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

In the 200cc segment, yes.

@kaleshivam 7 жыл бұрын

guys go for apache bcz I am Apache 200 owner too and used up to 5k+ KM's and I do not have any issues with the mileage.this motor beam reviews can be wrong some times ! they ride their bikes in dirt and says the chain gets dry quicker these test done on these bikes are very hard so that they will fail the tests, shifting gears in higher rpm's will lead to damage to engine components. Note that no need to shift gears in higher rpm's. and plz don't forget that these machines are also built to face bad indian roads not for Daytona roads so always be ready to accept some noises from every motorcycle !

@tyronem3446 7 жыл бұрын

Shivam Kale Even the 0 to 100 timing. test started at 3.21 and bike was 106kmph at 3.33. Speedo error can't be so huge. I don't know how they got the 13 second figure. Apache 200 has good mileage 35+. I'm not sure how they got this mileage. probably engine oil and air filter are unchanged for a long time on this bike

@sanketchipade8492 7 жыл бұрын

Shivam Kale bro how much mileage your bike gives?? average mileage?

@kaleshivam 7 жыл бұрын

Sanket Chipade honestly I am getting about 35-40 kmpl

@pappumondal5270 6 жыл бұрын

Mileage kitna ha vi... ? True bolna

@himanshunigam2470 6 жыл бұрын

Shivam Kale which bike should i go for ns 200 or apache 200

@balajichandrasekaran6312 7 жыл бұрын

Price diff of Fz25 & RTR 200 is 30K for which The performance is Comaprable Fz25 feels like a Bigger bike offers Fi but offers no Abs/basic console I would save 30k Cash and get some Riding Gears instead #RtrFanboy

@farmansd3574 6 жыл бұрын

Balaji Chandrasekaran . Agree with u in price point .. but performance ?? And refinement ?? Nothing can equal to Yamaha don't compare this with Yamaha .... 😎

@MegaRockzer 5 жыл бұрын

Refinement is great in both , but ofc Yamaha us better , performance wise both are similar 135kmph top speed , similar acceleration nd no vibes except in very high end for both

@biswaMastAadmi 5 жыл бұрын

it does not matter, what ever you do with your saved 30k

@AaronKamel 6 жыл бұрын

Hi guys i wanna thank you for your reviews all the way from Mexico, we share a lot of brands in commuting/city bikes and your reviews are incredibly helpful

@samsaeed8792 7 жыл бұрын

The 2 flaws that caught my attention in this review are vibration and mileage. So talking about vibration, no way... I rode mine quite harshly after first 1000 km.. Even my. 0-60 is in 3.5 seconds... Still i never faced any vibrations even on higher speeds(110-130), there are some vibrations but they are acceptable. And talking about mileage... I can easily get around 35-40 on riding softly. P. S. i am not saying that this review is wrong or anything like that but that's just my user experience.

@nikhidasari27 7 жыл бұрын

sAm sAeed bro city milleage plz

@samsaeed8792 7 жыл бұрын

(FOR CITY YOU CAN GET AROUND 27-32 THAT MAY VARY BASED ON THE TRAFFIC AND OTHER CONDITIONS for explanation you can read further if u want to 😅) The general milega is around 30-40 kmpl. But there are various factors like riding conditions, the way you ride just like MotorBeam said in this review that they got the mileage of 27-35 on harsh riding conditions.... We can't tell the exact mileage cuz everone has a different riding style( for instance some people ride on higher revs and low gears for quick power and some ride on higher gears with low revving).

@Pratham40s 7 жыл бұрын

sAm sAeed I only feel a little bit if vibes in 1st and 2nd gears. hitting 4k + rpm. I think that is a one off issue and would be checking the same in my next service. I also wasn't a firm believer of engine brake-in period and revved a bit before 500 kms. I have varied mileage from 38 going down to 25 kmpl. with first service interval between them. would keep my presence during second service as I believe service centre is not doing proper work.

@samsaeed8792 7 жыл бұрын

Prathamesh sawant Yup! I faced the same issue of mileage drop after my first service and it resolved eventually. Well riding softly under first 500 km is advised as the engine is new obviously But revving a bit and going to the speeds of below 80 doesn't make a difference. It's all about how ride. And far as service is concerned, in some of the service center, the workers aren't familiar with this bike, but it isn't the case with all of them, but there are quite a few in my area. So make sure that you are present during the service.

@rams18ece 7 жыл бұрын

sAm sAeed Motor Beam is the most corrupted out there. So much of biasing. Just ignore their reviews. Check Power Drift.

@suguree 7 жыл бұрын

14000 kms + on my rtr200 and here are my observation: cons: - felt the need of 6th gear post exceeding 100kmph - chainset starts to make noise after 10000kms, which even the service guys can't fix - met with 2 minor accidents so far because of the brakes pros: - seat is very comfortable - exhaust note is ear-pleasing - lesser vibration even at 144kmph speed - pocket friendly maintenance cost

@saiadusumalli9193 6 жыл бұрын

Brainless Suguree what about mileage bro??

@VK-ff6wb 5 жыл бұрын

144Mph😨😨😨

@blankspace5115 5 жыл бұрын

Abs or non abs

@its_dr.arunvt 4 жыл бұрын

How is your user experience with apache rtr 200 . I was actually looking for a bike and is confused with rtr200 and R15 V3 Will you suggest rtr race edition abs model??.and will you share the cons that you face now with me??

@udaykanthpanda8555 3 жыл бұрын

@@its_dr.arunvt u better to take R15 rtr is good but little vibration in exceeding speed R15 is so smooth I'm using rtr apache from 10yrs until now no issues but my dream bike is R15 s

@Swapnil9770 7 жыл бұрын

i have this bike,bought it in october, i can assure there are no vibrations issues, and the engine is smooth as you like, pretty satisfied with my bike.

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

Which variant?

@Swapnil9770 7 жыл бұрын

the base carb variant

@DPratik 8 ай бұрын

Thinking of buying this in second hand 27 km ridden for 50 k and it's 2017 model Good deal as per you?

@adithyakrishnak.r4396 7 жыл бұрын

MOTOR BEAM UR BACK AFTER A LONG TIME .KEEP IT UP! 200 K SUBS COMING UP!

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

Special video coming tomorrow.

@RidingLimitless 7 жыл бұрын

The outro was awesome, nice music too.

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy.

@adityashubham8381 7 жыл бұрын

Honestly, i was thinking of asking for a video at pointing out highs and lows of RTR 200, FZ 25. And here you are with apache's video. Thanks motorbeam. Also, could you please do the same for FZ 25.

@Sreeram-iq3rz 6 ай бұрын

Sounds crazy enough ❤‍🔥 Rtr 2017 model hits different now . ❤

@dhineshkumar8904 7 жыл бұрын

nice video MB..Am too using for one year from now but i havent felt any vibrations from this bike the NVH levels are very low in comparison to other 200 cc bikes..its a great bike from tvs yet.

@TheCybertron31 7 жыл бұрын

Its definitely best sounding machine in single cylinder category.

@SumanNath25 6 жыл бұрын

Very true. When ever I spot an Apache the place where my eyes goes first is the Exhaust. It looks like a rugged beefy advance twin barrel shotgun front. So minimalist yet looks soo much mechanical. Kudos TVS.

@GoldenBeast90 7 жыл бұрын

awesome review! proud to be an owner of apache 200(matte white)!

@SeekerofTruth1 7 жыл бұрын

I had the same issue with the one i rode, quite viby above 6000rpm, It wasnt abused and my friend did proper break in for 1600KM but below 6000rpm seems pretty smooth to me.

@nividjadhav8554 7 жыл бұрын

pls make a video on Honda CBR 150r I love the review u give & pls keeps make videos like this

@Venom07dz 7 жыл бұрын

plz make a video on Suzuki gixxer sf fi 2017 model

@carryhilati2725 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this vedio🤩🤩🤩

@amitkanjilal1158 Жыл бұрын

Completed 36000 km in my Apache RTR 200 Race 2.0 2019 model. Excellent bike, never let you down.

@LORDESHWAR10 5 жыл бұрын

Well explained 👌

@prashantmalkhede9957 7 жыл бұрын

make a video about pulsur rs 200 2017 model ....plz...

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

We have done already

@sumeetbhoi2300 7 жыл бұрын

#Motor_ Beam... Videos are awesome.. Pls make a long term review for #Pulsar_RS_200..

@PavanMS87 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! This bike has a gear position indicator as well!! Now with abs and slipper clutch it should seal the deal in 2018

@arijitbandyopadhyay 7 жыл бұрын

plz plz do a review of good and bad things of pulsar ns 200 2017....

@amlanmishra3548 7 жыл бұрын

Sir please have a long term review on tvs apache rtr 180

@veckramlelle8647 7 жыл бұрын

only if it had a 16ltr tank like it's predecessor , and it should have been a bit long for tall riders and the mileage should have been at least nearby 40km/pl

@monishm2128 7 жыл бұрын

a very good long term review covering almost every aspect including service 👍 will be a great guide for new buyers.. but 30kmpl ?? you must mention your drive pattern and driving style while mentioning fuel efficiency else people will get scared 😉

@hrishikesh_pandey 7 жыл бұрын

thanks 4 this video...👍👍

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@revzzrider 7 жыл бұрын

Using aftermarket fully synthetic engine oil will make it even more smoother !

@Pratham40s 7 жыл бұрын

Ravi Utkarsh ReVzZ Rider which one. any recommendations . and can we change the engine oil while free servicing is offered ? does it affect warranty ?

@mortalkombat2202 7 жыл бұрын

prathamesh sawant go for motul 7100 10w40 it's the best oil out there and do it after the free services. It doesn't make sense to go before the free services. Usually we need to ride the bike for about 5000 kms before changing the oil to fully synthetic but it's not a hard rule.

@CaptainScorpio24 6 жыл бұрын

Mortal Kombat yeah bro, I currently use it in my hero maestro edge since jan 2017 and its awesome and roaring :)

@NumaanShaikh 7 жыл бұрын

Just got a Bajaj Avenger 150 Street a week back... I still can't take my eyes off it.. 😃

@NumaanShaikh 7 жыл бұрын

Optimism with a bit of Sarcasm.. 😂 Not a RTR fan boy though.

@ankitluthra1563 7 жыл бұрын

Numaan Shaikh eat it

@vinay_thanu_chaithu 7 жыл бұрын

hi brother please make a review of gixxer 155c and tell me the front disk brake heating issue ...

@Eshwar_Kailash_Vlogs 7 жыл бұрын

hello motorbeam . I have one question ..? is this bike worthy for long continues rides ... if we go for a long is there will be any engine problem.. many saying NS200 will go for long without any engine heat but rtr 200 won't ... is that true.??? what is ur opinion for this ..??? plz say...

@PrinceKumar-wk8nl 6 жыл бұрын

Good Adviser..

@abuzarhusain7881 7 жыл бұрын

please add a long term review of honda hornet 160r also

@ananthups3208 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome content and amazing channel. But please do a nice review of Gixxer SF Fi

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

We will.

@ananthups3208 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys, for the quick response. There are no credible and informative review on the SF FI on KZfaq and your reviews are awesome. Fingers crossed for one soon ...

@arnabsaha8231 5 жыл бұрын

Top speed isnt 128km/hr. I myself have done 139km/hr on my apache 200.

@sohailbagwan2940 7 жыл бұрын

#motorbeam This was a wonderful review.. as soon as you start the bike, the exhaust sound of this bike wins you over. It's smooth and nimble and perfect for city riding.. Which service centre in mumbai wud you recommend for service? m not too happy wid my first service, as d exhaust sound in d 3rd gear onwards doesnt have the throttle feel n d orange light on d speedometer doesnt come on.. pls do let me know..

@bhaskarspx 7 жыл бұрын

Pls do a same long term review with Pulsar NS200

@binoddas1453 6 жыл бұрын

Please add a video of review of Apache 200 4v race edition

@soorajs7911 6 жыл бұрын

Could you pls give a review on the new Apache RTR 200 4v race edition with abs..

@anujpisute129 7 жыл бұрын

make more video on fz25

@mayankupadhyay8627 4 жыл бұрын

I got 42 kmpl mileage on 50 to 60 speed from my RtR 200 really it’s too Amazing bike best off roading & Iam really very happy for this bike....

@souravdas7213 7 ай бұрын

Kaise bhai

@indreshab1354 6 жыл бұрын

After researcher of 2 months, i purchase RTR200, i fully satisfied and awesome bike, in cities as well as highway

@sushantuagarwal2046 7 жыл бұрын

when did u show long term review of 2017 pulsar 180

@harishmurali990 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Motobeam Team . I own a RTR 200 black and I get mileage figures of 38-40 within City limits . why do you mention a very low Mileage figures........???

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

How many kms has your bike done?

@tameemansari1918 7 жыл бұрын

harish murali Really r u getting 40kmpl mileage in city........please genuine reply

@somesh9065 7 жыл бұрын

Motorbeam, 25kmpl? my ass, I own rtr180 and rtr200, and least my bike gave was 34kmpl (ridden like a hoonigan with constant redlining, and 41kmpl on my trip to Surat. appreciated your efforts to defame tvs.

@MarathaRider 7 жыл бұрын

Somesh Thakur if you redline a bike the mileage would fall bro. i own a tvs apache the new model rtr160 since 5 years now. and the times i redlined it is when i lost a litre or two of fuel in minutes. if i ride it constantly at 70-80 i get a mileage of 45 city Condition and 50kmpl on the highways

@somesh9065 7 жыл бұрын

Maratha Rider , yes! mine also gave less milage but least I got was 32-34 kmpl which is not bad for a 200cc bike

@akkirajunani4133 6 жыл бұрын

Motor beam... Please give a review of Apache RTR 160 2017...

@kapilbalodia 7 жыл бұрын

pls make long review of Yamaha FZ25.

@chamilbuddhika3874 5 жыл бұрын

thank you so much 🙏

@Akshay-oj3oc 2 жыл бұрын

Bro i am getting 40kmpl per litre in mixed driving conditions. And quality of bike is good. Value for money. Little tall for riders below 5.6 feet. Overall good bike but only issue is frequent gear shifts(if u r not an enthusiastic rider) or less torquey engine(have to ride in low gears/higher rpm else engine knocks).

@GauravJha05 7 жыл бұрын

upload a long term review of Apache rtr 180

@girishpatil2509 7 жыл бұрын

it is really hard choosing between this Apache RTR and NS 200

@RaviTejaCheekati 7 жыл бұрын

Hi MotorBeam, Could you suggest which is a better buy : FZ25 or RTR 200 wrt vibrations, engine smoothness and mileage?

@deveshraut9834 5 жыл бұрын

Which one did you buy?

@faheemgani9970 7 жыл бұрын

Can u make a long term ownership review video for RE Himalayan?

@divyambhatt9069 6 жыл бұрын

Can I get the slipper clutch added to my Apache Rtr 200 4V previous version from TVS. Also, will the slipper clutch make a real lot of difference?

@raghavendrakumar1012 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Faisal Bhai, I am confused between it's two variant race edition 2.0 FI and ABS. Which one should I buy ? I am 5feeet 11inches tall will 200 4v race edition will be comfortable for me ?

@letsridewithkaran 6 жыл бұрын

i am confused between rtr 200 nd fzs fi 150 v2.0 .. which is comfortable in city traffic and pillion seat with my height is 6"2. for next 4 to 5 years .. or suggest any other better option in this price range

@bhagyodayjewellers6498 7 жыл бұрын

Hey motorbeam... Will the rtr 200 fi abs with pirelli overcome these issues? ???lyk any ideas about it??? And would it be better than fz 25 if this variant is launched....??

@sagarjamdade5884 5 жыл бұрын

Hi which bike u will prefer in betn avanger 220 cruise or apache rtr 200 for driving 100 km a day in week 2 times no longer trips with comfort.

@koolnation3095 7 жыл бұрын

plzz make Video on [ Fz V 2.0 2017 hurricane grey ]

@ayushverma7862 7 жыл бұрын

plz do 1 for avenger 150street bs4 model ..plz

@adithyan8843 7 жыл бұрын

pls do a comparison with 200ns and FZ 25

@gomezshilu7987 6 жыл бұрын

I had brought a new rtr 200, but one of the white tube near the silencer is burned, so please tell me what is the purpose of this tube and is it have any adverse effect on the vehicle

@Parsitraveller 6 жыл бұрын

Faisal buddy you forgot to mention the chain issue The chain dries up very fast ever 200 to 300 kms and becomes loose too Chain tightening and lubrication is a constant cycle

@gunukulanaren2957 5 жыл бұрын

As now the race edition is out you have say something positive about it

@starkgaming8133 7 жыл бұрын

motorbeam when is apache rtr 310 (Akula) launch date ???

@KamleshSingh-so4jf 7 жыл бұрын

Sufiyan Ahmed rumours are in JULY

@vidkidsvault3438 7 жыл бұрын

we want 2017 NS 200 long term review!!!!!

@viveksur9769 5 жыл бұрын

NS200 is a shitty bike bro meant for stupid indians like u rather go for honda or yamaha those r reliable brands

@ishaanprinza7426 7 жыл бұрын

hey make a video on pulser 200ns 2017 pleasssssss

@ankurjain4673 7 жыл бұрын

are the issues mentioned here like squeaking sound from tank etc addressed by tvs? the grunt of apache sounds similar to rs200 in video. is it so? and seats are softer as i read somewhere. are they not compared to rs200?

@vivekkumarsingh9009 7 жыл бұрын

Not a single vibration upto 98kmph...m in love with dis bike..

@stuartalphonso8967 3 жыл бұрын

When y'all are updating the Apache video 🙏

@thedrifter8641 7 жыл бұрын

this isnt an offroad bike why are they trashing the bike like anything and look at the chain its poorely maintaind by some crack pot ...motorbeam hates tvs trying to demote it why dnt they try it with pulsars for every other brand they have done 10 reason not to buy why dnt they do it for pulsars. i know that the reason not to buy pulsar will be more then 100...

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

+juvin john that's coming soon too.

@FamousInsane 7 жыл бұрын

MotorBeam Haha 😂 Waiting for it.

@9949702110 6 жыл бұрын

juvin john -well said tvs bikes r quality made. Only issue is delay in launching d bikes.

@GauravSanjeevkumarBhardwaj1220 5 жыл бұрын

That delay issue is because of bs IV and bs 6 upcoming norms and the export sales, I'm waiting for fi+abs,tvs has to give abs in fi or they will stop making fi versions cuz abs is compulsory now for all 125 above cc bikes

@santhoshpjohn 4 жыл бұрын

@@MotorBeam when ???!!!

@FatBikerVaibhav 7 жыл бұрын

wow atleast not biased

@thebluecolt919 7 жыл бұрын

When are they gonna release abs and FI versions?

@dhineshkumar8904 7 жыл бұрын

Hello motorbeam...I have a serios doubt in rtr 200 2016 model weather its bs3 or bs4? I went to showroom too see bs4 model and there is absolutely no difference between the bs4 model & my bike the 2 things difference was the bs4 sticker & AHO function..Could u please clear my doubt?

@souvik7459 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, Can you please inform is there any vibration issue in this bike.

@santoshsonkawade9551 6 жыл бұрын

Ns 200 2017 long term issues video !pp

@viratraghav7349 7 жыл бұрын

please reviw new hero glamour 2017 bs4

@shianrilongreamei2935 7 жыл бұрын

Iam confused between fz25 and apache 200 4v. Which one should i go for?

@jasonjackie6274 7 жыл бұрын

have u made a drag race video of ns vs apache 200

@MotorBeam 7 жыл бұрын

Check this - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJORn7mhnNa2fmg.html

@MohdDanish-ef7gs 7 жыл бұрын

Hello I'm waiting for Apache rtr200 4v in ABS . you know that Apache IN(ABS) launing date.

@SMRTH1998 7 жыл бұрын

please make video of drag race between NEW ktm DUKE 250 and Yamaha fz 25

@SaravanaKumar-sh1rs 7 жыл бұрын

smart user channel the fz 25 is faster than the duke 250 in reaching 100km/h

@thebluecolt919 7 жыл бұрын

TVS launched abs and FI variant last year and still no sales have started yet. Should be seen as the strategy to get marketed based on auto reviews for the abs Fi variant with its price range and sell the carb variant in the showroom. Disappointing from TVS as this looked really promising when it launched. Also I don't agree with service quality at TVS showrooms. They are not trained for customer reception.

@zerobudgetproduction8002 6 жыл бұрын

I make decision to buy this bike in this year.

@PrinceNYZX 7 жыл бұрын

Buys a naked motorcycle. Uses it off road. Posts review. 🤦🏽‍♂️

@sagarhogade3295 7 жыл бұрын

Please do make a long term review of dominar

@sam-bm1fg 5 жыл бұрын

Motorbeam....is it good now?.... Can I go for this?? Or ns?

@Dfm_Sushil 7 жыл бұрын

Plz give full review of 2017 yamaha fzs v2. .and pulsar 180 ..??? Plzz everything millege...engine vibrates....breaks....maintenance cost....? Plzzz

@Himanshusoni05 5 жыл бұрын

I have heard about issues with battery that it gets drained fast and then bike doesn't start, is it true?

@SarathKumar-pl2el 7 жыл бұрын

make a comparison video between. Yamaha fz 25 .Duke 200 . and Apache 200

@bimalsinghi9601 7 жыл бұрын

I get gear issues in 1 to 2 gear as it hit N but once you go to 2 gear it shows 3rd gear ... sensor of the bike has changed twice but same issue

@muravanemobile2471 7 жыл бұрын

plz make same review on fz25

@modakriba4393 6 жыл бұрын

Why no such video of ns 200

@vikasgaikwad6913 6 жыл бұрын

Hello motorbeam I looking to buy a bike in 200 cc which 1 go for ns200 or RTR 200 plzzz tell me

@mdshoaib9551 6 жыл бұрын

Please make a video on #ABS #FI variant

@animeshbordoloi4700 7 жыл бұрын

how about a face-off between 2017 pulsar 200 ns and Apache 200

@rohanpatkar3292 6 жыл бұрын

Which is best to buy the bike NS200 or Apache rtr200?

@rajdeepmahato3068 5 жыл бұрын

Hi... Can you help me? I am stuck among the Apache 200 4v, 160 4v and Fz 25....I am a college student and its gonna be my first bike, I have this 3 option, among these I want the bike which will be less costly in maintenance, braking is comparatively safe and very reliable bike.....Which one would be great? (Price doesn't matter)