Motorcycle Road Skills. Roundabouts - CBT / Module 2 Test

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3 жыл бұрын

This video is aimed at CBT and Test training students and gives information about how to make roundabout use easier and safer, highlighting some common risk areas.
The information is not exhaustive and does not cover advanced riding techniques.
This video is not a substitute for professional live training and if in doubt the viewer should seek professional advice from an instructor.

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@MGman100
@MGman100 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have any issues with roundabouts but probably 90% of other road users seem to be clueless which means your awareness and obs must be spot on. That 90% of other road users need to watch this excellent instructional video.
@rasheedali207
@rasheedali207 2 жыл бұрын
1- Very positive calming voice. 2- Clear instructions. 3- Highly confident & Experienced. 4- Very Motivated. 5- Top level Alertness.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
many thanks, ride safe
@anthonyfairbanks1387
@anthonyfairbanks1387 3 жыл бұрын
Quite simply the best video on roundabouts and lifesavers I've seen ......and I've seen a lot explained everything perfectly many thanks I take my test soon
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your kind feedback, much appreciated. i wish you well for your test, let me know how you get on. If I can help with anything let me know, all the best
@lukemason927
@lukemason927 2 жыл бұрын
did you pass
@anthonyfairbanks1387
@anthonyfairbanks1387 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukemason927 yes mate
@skithedrummer
@skithedrummer 2 жыл бұрын
Passed my MOD 2 today thanks to your videos! Amazingly well put together. Thanks!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Ski congratulations, you re very welcome, im glad they were of some help, ride safe
@ellom8
@ellom8 2 жыл бұрын
After having spent a good week looking at various videos, I came across this channel and the content here is described in far more depth and clarity than any other I've come across. I feel more confident now. Thank you.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
you are welcome, i am glad the videos help, all the best
@alifazar6142
@alifazar6142 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video for anyone who practicing module 2. Very clear explanation. Thak your making this. I am very happy and i learnt a lot.
@peterrichards7387
@peterrichards7387 11 ай бұрын
This was exactly the video I wanted on livesavers to refresh my knowledge. Brilliant thanks.
@MrScotteeeeee
@MrScotteeeeee 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic video Really makes sense when you break it down like you have 👍
@viliivanovtube
@viliivanovtube 5 ай бұрын
Possibly the best video for negotiating roundabouts!
@bobhill8852
@bobhill8852 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, I asked you for a video on how to use roundabouts, wow... Did you deliver!!! OMG yes you did!!! The whole video from start to finish is simply brilliant. It's the best one yet!!! The diagrams and editing must have taken ages to do. First class quality. 10/10 for accurate information & content. Hopefully this will inform all road users not just motorcyclists of how to use roundabouts safely. Live to ride, ride to live. Cheers again Bob
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback Bob, glad you enjoyed it, lets hope it does help some road users out there! All the best
@springwood100
@springwood100 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil love your videos bits Maurice here from Ireland 'm just wondering is it okay to do a left life saver banked to the right but looking to go straight on. through a roundabout.
@sophiebazgier9596
@sophiebazgier9596 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video about roundabouts!! Thank you so so much!!!
@brianhull5125
@brianhull5125 4 ай бұрын
I had lots of queries regarding roundabouts and signalling as I have my test soon and you’ve literally addressed them all…thank you 🙏🏼
@alfs3
@alfs3 Жыл бұрын
Passed my mod 2 yesterday and have a very good handle on roundabouts but you can never have too much info or knowledge- cheers for posting!
@Light-Eater
@Light-Eater 2 жыл бұрын
This lesson is a pure gold, thank you for shearing your knowledge.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Karol Janik thank you, much appreciated
@pauliesk.7102
@pauliesk.7102 8 ай бұрын
Invaluable! I'll be on a journey early tomorrow morning that involves a lot of awkward roundabouts (Black Country Route, West Midlands): I'll be thinking of this advice all the way.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 8 ай бұрын
Good stuff, ride safe
@joeknight3658
@joeknight3658 11 ай бұрын
I've watched multiple videos about roundabout procedure and this is the first one that makes a comment about what to do if there is someone in your blindspot. Thanks!
@chrischristofis8501
@chrischristofis8501 Жыл бұрын
An excellent video may well save lives, certainly will help test candidates a guy i know failed his Mod2 last week for messing up on a roundabout (lane discipline) 😢
@tomabberton
@tomabberton 2 жыл бұрын
This has been the most thorough and comprehensive video I have seen regarding roundabouts for a motorcyclist on youtube. This is excellent. Mod 2 coming for me very shortly, and roundabouts, in particular signalling and lifesaver checks, are giving me the most to think about. This video has explained so much for me. Many thanks Motorcycle PWR!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! i wish you well for your mod2
@Will-nh7ly
@Will-nh7ly 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Phil, really helpful for my MOD 2; this has got to be the definitive and most comprehensive video for us learners!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Will Thank you for your comment, really glad this helped. I wish you well for your Mod 2, all the best
@PB-oe7id
@PB-oe7id 3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly the best video on entire KZfaq regarding roundabouts motorcycle training. Thank you
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback, it is much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed and found the video useful. All the best, ride safe
@PB-oe7id
@PB-oe7id 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I did learn a lot, thank you. I wish all the motorcycle instructors are so knowledgeable as you are, and can explain it so well as you did in this video. Honestly the overall quality with nice clear voice over and production looks like it's been made by BBC or DVSA. It is very very professional and the information value of this video is absolutely priceless. I wouldn't be surprise if some company would buy all your videos and package them as a video learning tool, because they are so good.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
Thats great to hear, thank you for your very positive comments. The main aim of course is to try to help bikers stay as safe as possible. Im please that you found it helpful, and hope some of my other videos will be helpful too. Many thanks again.
@martinarmer240
@martinarmer240 11 ай бұрын
I was getting confused about lifesavers at roundabouts after getting different advice from instructors but this is the clearest explanation I've seen. Many thanks.
@benpitt9347
@benpitt9347 Жыл бұрын
Such a helpful and clear approach to explaining how to tackle roundabouts! I know all the information you have explained however to have it all refreshed in one go is confidence inspiring and has helped illuminate the grey areas in my memory. Thank you so much.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! all the best
@drewtuley
@drewtuley 3 жыл бұрын
This video almost as good as riding the real thing with an instructor. In fact, for pre & post maneuver analysis it's probably better, as there's the time to let the explanations behind the correct actions and their rationale sink in. Thanks for a bit of extra confidence (mod2 in 3 days)
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Tuley thank you for your comments, I am glad it has been of some help to you. I wish you well for your Mod 2. All the best
@ahmedhadi7761
@ahmedhadi7761 2 жыл бұрын
The best video ever , I found it very useful, many thanks 😊 for sharing
@neilsatchell7049
@neilsatchell7049 Жыл бұрын
Slowly going though all your videos as got my Mod 2 in 10 days , but this has certainly cleared up roundabouts for me, and when to use or not use a life saver, onto the next video🙂
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
Thank you, i wish you well with your test.
@marcomanic7760
@marcomanic7760 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to find a video like this for ages I have my CBT coming up in 2 weeks and it’s been terrifying me of how roundabouts work this was explained very simple and very easy to understand. Thank you massive help!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Marco Manic thank you for your comment, im glad you find this helpful. Training can sometimes be daunting, but your instructor should be helpful and appreciative of any concerns you have. CBT is not a test but a training course, so try to enjoy it and build your confidence. If you need training for more than one day that is fine, and if you are not confident good schools will help you further. Let me know if i can advise with anything else. All the best
@Idkchangethislater
@Idkchangethislater Жыл бұрын
How did it go? Mines tommorow morning 💀
@OneOther93
@OneOther93 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent resource. Thanks for uploading!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@hasnainhashmi7930
@hasnainhashmi7930 3 ай бұрын
Just perfect, exactly what I needed.
@Elmwood-ze3cr
@Elmwood-ze3cr 2 жыл бұрын
Great video , the information you have given is brilliant , im doing my CBT soon and im sure this video will help me , Thanks :)
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Elmwood 1965 thank you, you re welcome, enjoy your cbt
@86Bilal2k8
@86Bilal2k8 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - this is useful. I have my MOD 2 next week (retake for the 2nd time) and failed 1st time as I froze at a mini roundabout and had priority when I could have gone and did not do a left shoulder check when exiting a roundabout in the right hand land (did a left shoulder check).
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
i hope this helps, and your mod 2 goes well
@ireactyo.
@ireactyo. 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best explanation of life saver and roundabout line positioning
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@aslat rajpoot thank you, glad its helpful, all the best
@SQUID_Road_Glide
@SQUID_Road_Glide 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Phill, I took a Submarine to Portsmouth back in the 90’s. I miss the exacting hospitality…love those brandy laced mincemeat pies, and Christmas Crackers. I find your graphics very helpful, and not unlike what I do to my screenshots. The comment about never getting instruction to, “Go straight” on a Roundabout is so intuitive to me but my Ram Truck navigation tells me to do that all the time. Top shelf instruction mate. I have to reverse the instructions but the quality training is well worth it. USN, Ret. 2020 Fat Boy 114, subscribed
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comments, much appreciated and very interesting. Im glad you got to visit over here and enjoyed the hospitality. Ride safe, all the best
@telentnet
@telentnet 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another excellent video from Motorcycle PWR ... You talked about anticipating that other road users may be wrongly positioned or in the wrong lane. One particular point that may be worth calling out here is that pedal cyclists are/were *advised* in the Highway Code (rules, 79, 182) that they may take the left-hand lane when turning right, so may be in places you don't expect *and legitimately so* To my mind this is not helpful advice - and as a pedal cyclist of many years I will always use the same lane as a motor vehicle would use for whichever exit - but I can recognise that slower or less confident cyclists may take the advice at face value, especially on larger and faster roundabouts.
@cedricduwat3839
@cedricduwat3839 Жыл бұрын
Asked that question Phil because I failed my MOD2 at this very set of tricky roundabouts a few weeks ago in Herne Bay… Lost my composure, knew what to do but the instructor gave me 3 sets of instructions during the independent driving & I forgot what I was meant to do half way through…. You are the best & your videos are gold dust!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
@Cedric Duwat Ah sorry to hear that, I hope you pass next time. With independent riding, if you forget the directions the best thing to do is to make the route up yourself and ride safely as the examiner wants to see how you ride without being given individual directions. Many thanks for your compliments, ride safe, all the best
@jamesclarke7624
@jamesclarke7624 Жыл бұрын
Have really enjoyed your videos.
@AW8UK
@AW8UK 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful as always. Thanks 👍
@Lacehairwigs
@Lacehairwigs 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you
@irishzombie22able
@irishzombie22able 2 жыл бұрын
Got my MOD 2 next week, great advice here, thanks
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, i wish you well with your Mod 2 Ride safe
@irishzombie22able
@irishzombie22able 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR thanks I passed 🏍️
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@@irishzombie22able well done, very pleased for you. ride safe
@lloydbailey7140
@lloydbailey7140 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very thorough video
@harrybuckley7292
@harrybuckley7292 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information , appreciated.
@boomshewaddywaddy
@boomshewaddywaddy 2 жыл бұрын
Found this super helpful! Thanks for the upload!!!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@boomshewaddywaddy thank you, much appreciated.
@leepearce787
@leepearce787 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, gained some good knowledge. Cheers, Lee
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Lee, Glad it was helpful!
@arhung
@arhung 2 жыл бұрын
learner driver from Hong Kong. Thanks for the video, very informative.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@bilbradley4944
@bilbradley4944 Жыл бұрын
Legend, got my mod 2 tommrow this has given me a lot more comfidence
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
@Bil Bradley glad this has been helpful, I wish you well with your Mod 2, ride safe
@johnpaterson4163
@johnpaterson4163 2 жыл бұрын
First class, thank you.
@illusion1361
@illusion1361 4 ай бұрын
I always do a life saver going straight across on roundabouts as well as a right one over shooters on the left are common
@daveloz1
@daveloz1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video I have 2x 3 hour lessons tomorrow and my test on Tuesday so this is a great help... I drive articulated lorries so the difference from that to a bike is a lot different.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
youre welcome, i wish you well with your test
@daveloz1
@daveloz1 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank you 🙂
@daveloz1
@daveloz1 Жыл бұрын
Just passed 1 minor thanks to your videos 👍👍
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Dave, a great result. Glad the videos helped. Enjoy your biking, all the best
@daveloz1
@daveloz1 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank you for producing great videos all this information helps.... Now it's time to really learn 🙂
@somersetlevellersmtb5564
@somersetlevellersmtb5564 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@tmaxuk9054
@tmaxuk9054 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@viktorask
@viktorask 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@phughes8742
@phughes8742 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks 👍
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kevinconroy3259
@kevinconroy3259 Жыл бұрын
Well I passed thanks to this! Thanks
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
Congratulations. Glad it was helpful
@philcaffrey
@philcaffrey 5 ай бұрын
Thanks really helpful. At 09:02, you were turning right and exited the roundabout from lane 2 straight into lane 1. You did a lifesaver, but essentially you seem to have completed 2 manoeuvres 1) lane change and 2) roundabout exit in one go. Had there been someone in lane 1 exiting at the same place, would you have maintained a line in lane 2?
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 5 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for your question. The short answer is yes, I would have stayed in lane 2. The lifesaver had covered the exit so either lane was a possibility. All the best
@rachelrees8491
@rachelrees8491 Ай бұрын
So no need to signal on the approach for a second left exit, only after passing the first? Great video 😊
@philcaffrey
@philcaffrey 5 ай бұрын
Hi. At 14:52 you joined the roundabout when there was already traffic (the white lorry) on the roundabout approaching from the right. I have been instructed that I will fail my test if I do this. What is the correct procedure?
@nosh121081
@nosh121081 2 жыл бұрын
Just passed today..learnt alot from your vids
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@nosh121081 congratulations, glad the videos helped, ride safe..
@nosh121081
@nosh121081 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR thank you
@philcaffrey
@philcaffrey 5 ай бұрын
At 25:37, you have come to a halt. Do you then complete the roundabout in first gear, feathering the clutch or do you tend to get into 2nd asap and then go around with clutch. I find on my 650 that first gear makes the throttle a bit jumpy and harder to control the line. Would appreciate your thoughts?
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 5 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for your question. Either, I often get into second as soon as possible and prefer not to change gear when cornering. Clutch slip is of great help so I would go with what suits you and the bike at the time. But keeping it smooth is helpful. All the best
@micimbr
@micimbr 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! How's the dynamic when there are two lanes approaching a roundabout and in the roundabout, and there is a car in each lane, and the exit that both cars want to take only has one lane? Assuming they enter the roundabout simultaneously
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 4 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for your comment. This is often an interesting scenario and generally 2 lanes in and one out suggests that the right lane shouldn’t be for going ahead but turning right. But there are variables of course. If lane discipline is being used properly then both vehicles should give grace to one another and drive with care and consideration. If someone has used the wrong lane, again consideration is key. There is nothing official here other than to drive with due care and attention and consideration for other road users. It seems to be lacking in modern driving sadly. I tend to allow other road users to do what they need, but if I can accelerate safely away from them then equally I will do that too. Hope this helps, all the best
@micimbr
@micimbr 4 ай бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR That makes a lot of sense! Sometimes common sense and good road manners are just as important in order to stay safe and avoid bad situations. Thanks for your answer and take care! And thank you also for the amazing content you produce 😊
@Rus5ell
@Rus5ell 2 жыл бұрын
how do you decide when stopped at a roundabout to look over both shoulders before moving off vs just going. same with traffic lights sometime i see you do it and others not.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Russell Morrison Hi Russell, thank you for your question. So in general, I will not do lifesavers left or right before moving off onto a roundabout. The reason is that it takes too much time and takes away the focus from the main hazards, which are the traffic on the roundabout. However, I would always consider a lifesaver depending on other traffic and possible risk. It may appear that I do these checks, but in real terms I am just moving my head left to right in general sweeping observations, but this does also provide a blindspot awareness using my peripheral vision. At traffic lights I am likely to check blindspots specifically with a lifesaver before moving as I have the time to do so without compromising my awareness. If I choose not to specifically lifesaver, it may be because I have kept good all round obs going whilst stationary using mirrors and/or head movements and therefore have a good awareness of what is behind and next to me and am happy my blindspots are safe. You may find my rear observations video helpful. All the best.
@mattfrost1992
@mattfrost1992 3 жыл бұрын
The bit that confuses me about roundabouts are when the sign and the exits do not match. E.g some roundabout signs show 2nd exit at 12 o'clock. But the roundabout 2nd exit in actuality is at 2 o'clock. With visibility you may not always know until you're at the roundabout.so you could be in the the wrong lane. I'm not sure if that makes sense
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt. Yes it does make sense and is something i see quite a lot. I dont know why highways authorities do it. Usually in test training, we advise students to work from the signs as the default. In some areas instructors may give separate advice if there are roundabouts with known procedures. In post test training things can differ, primarily because the rider should be more competent in machine control and therefore has more room in the brain to assess the road and make more complex plans and decisions. So Roadcraft says that generally the best route through a roundabout is the shortest route from entry to exit. So providing there is no adverse effect on safety or another road user the rider has a reasonable degree of flexibility. But where there is no early visibility of road layout, no local knowledge or pre warning of layout via sat nav I would always advise using the signs as the guide, and in situations where the 12 o clock sign exit now appears at 2 o clock on the road for example, make sure your awareness and blind spot checks are thorough, as in essence you would be turning right from the left lane which carries possible risks of conflict with a road user taking the same exit but approaching from the right lane. All the best.
@Khatir.l
@Khatir.l 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting over 2 month for CBT test but I failed because of the roundabouts, is not that I don't know he was confusing me with (Take right and ......) And hes English accent was very strong I could barely understand. Thank you for doing this video explaining everything 🙏
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
@Khatir thank you for your comments. Its important to know that no one fails their cbt because it is not a test, but a training course. This means a student must train until they demonstrate a level of competence to be safe and legal, and the time taken varies for different students. I am glad you found the video useful and I am sure that you will successfully complete your cbt soon. Get in touch if you need further help. All the best
@Khatir.l
@Khatir.l 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR i didn't understand when you said no one fails!!!! So why did he told me that he can't give me CBT because I couldn't understand what's 12 o'clock and after 3 o'clock?!! I was driving for 2 hours in very safe way, Plus I have driven license and I past all the highway code even all tha he didn't want to. Can I complain?!!
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
@Khatir there is often confusion about CBT! So CBT is a course of training with 5 elements. A student can only progress from A to B, B to C etc when they have the required understanding and competence as required. So unlike the driving test when you make a serious fault and you fail no matter how good the rest of your driving is, CBT is a course of continual training and assessment until an instructor is satisfied that the student has completed all elements safely enough to receive the CBT certificate of completion. (Not pass certificate!) So a student may complete in one day, or they may need to re attend for further training until a safe standard is reached. This may even be over a period of weeks. I cannot comment specifically on individual cases as I am not in possession of all facts, but: a student cannot not complete a CBT just because they do not understand 12 or 3 o clock, but if an instructor feels that a student is not safely negotiating roundabouts then they are not able to issue a certificate. So you may just need another road ride to work on and demonstrate competency with roundabouts for a certificate to be issued if everything else is ok. There is a course of complaint via the DVSA website, but it is first worth taking the matter up with the training school to find out exactly what needs to be done for you to achieve your certificate. You may well have thought you rode well, but most instructors are very well trained in assessment in safe motorcycling and most of us will not, and neither are we permitted to by regulations, issue a cbt certificate if we feel that the student hasnt reached the standard and will have problems on the road by themselves. I hope this helps and you complete your cbt soon.
@Khatir.l
@Khatir.l 3 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR thank You and I completely understand I think I just didn't understand the instructor what he was saying . Thank you again.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
@@Khatir.l no problem you re welcome, good luck with it all, all the best
@bobc6439
@bobc6439 Ай бұрын
I failed my mod 2 for stopping past the roundabout entry line at Herne Bay last week. It’s a bad habit I have from driving a taxi in London, inching out to jump in a gap
@oldfartuk
@oldfartuk 2 жыл бұрын
at 13:38 due to poor road markings it appears that you cut the lane to your left when exiting .. its under those circumstances i get confused at roundabouts , it seems to make more sence to be in that lane ? (ie the red line you highlighted )
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@OldFartUK hi, thank you for your comment. At this point I was taking the 3rd exit to the right, which means a right lane approach and inner lane use of the roundabout is required. To leave the roundabout we have to ride across the outer lane, hence the lifesaver before we do so to check for vehicles legitimately or otherwise using that lane. I think the road markings here are just a few lines for clarity rather than faded. Using the outer lane on a roundabout or approaching in the left lane to turn right is usually incorrect and heightens risk, and will likely result in a test fail. I hope this helps, all the best
@anthonyfairbanks1387
@anthonyfairbanks1387 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, I failed my mod 2 2weeks ago I'm no spring chicken at 52 I was so nervous and had no lessons for 4 months because of covid but that is not an excuse I rode on my test a nervous wreck so it's that I need help with I will try to keep calm this time 🙏👍
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Fairbanks sorry to hear that, at least Mod 1 is in the bag! I get the nervous thing, i get worse the older i get, we are of the same vintage! I always advise my students, ride like you are on your own, treat the examiner as a satnav on a bike, and if necessary talk out loud to yourself in a commentary like i do on my videos; it keeps your focus and leaves less room for nerves. Also, just ride and do what you think is correct, dont second guess what the examiner wants to see. If you ride safely and legally you will pass, if you make mistakes its either nerves or you do need further training. We all make mistakes, it doesnt mean its a fail though so let it go and keep focussed until the debrief. All the examiners I meet are really nice guys, and more importantly, they are bikers!
@Markycarandbikestuff
@Markycarandbikestuff 3 жыл бұрын
50 here and failed my Mod 2 first try too, quite spectacularly, i dropped the bike at a junction and the test was terminated, i was absolutely gutted, second test was a lot better and i passed (February 2020), i tried to keep calm by reminding myself i'm doing it as a hobby, also just looked at the first failed test as a practice run so i knew what to expect next time. Great when you eventually pass though and it's amazing getting out on your own bike, well worth it.
@nikolinal4230
@nikolinal4230 Жыл бұрын
Whats the appropriate speed while going around the roundabout? Thanks so much
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
@Nikolina L Hi thank you for your question. Unfortunately there isn't a default mph answer to the question. However, speed for roundabouts, as with all hazards will depend on a number of considerations. Some considerations will be volume of traffic, size and layout of roundabout, available visibility, and which exit you are taking in relation to your entry onto the roundabout. One major factor to consider when deciding on speed when using a roundabout is could you respond safely if another vehicle pulled out in front of you? If you are fast on a motorcycle whilst cornering your lean angle will increase, leaving little grip for firm braking in the event of a vehicle putting you at risk: therefore slowly around and accelerate away to exit when the road ahead permits is safest. However, when going ahead at a roundabout with little to no traffic and great visibility you might be going relatively quickly, as opposed to a right turn which would be a lot slower. Its also worth remembering that roundabouts are supposed to assist traffic flow, vehicles travelling fast on a roundabout may cause difficulty to other road users in joining, so a more measured use of speed allows others to join safely and get on with their journey too. I hope this helps and feel free to ask further questions. All the best.
@wickedadonis8925
@wickedadonis8925 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! At 11:08, isn't the second exit between 6 and 12 o'clock, so shouldn't it be treated as left? Sorry, I may be wrong but trying to wrap my head around this roundabout.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Wicked Adonis hi, thank you for your comment. Roundabouts can be confusing some times! So in the example you mention, as we look at the road sign we have 2 exits shown, one left at 9 o clock, and one at 12 o clock (ahead). You are right, usually between 6 and 12 o clock it would be a left lane approach. But here, because there is no right turn shown on the sign (other than a U turn) , and there are 2 lanes on the entry we can choose the right lane to go ahead, which is beneficial as I am already planning to turn right at the next roundabout. There are also 2 lanes on the exit of this R/A, not clear maybe to a stranger but local knowledge helps us here. It would not be wrong to use the left or the right in this case to go ahead. To complicate matters further, there is actually an extra exit to the right to an industrial area (not seen clearly in the video) and not marked on the road sign. However, this is of no real consequence to what I have mentioned above. I hope that this helps? All the best
@wickedadonis8925
@wickedadonis8925 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the clarification. Really appreciate it, mate. You and the biking community here on KZfaq make it so easy for us by demystifying such confusing concepts with a great explanation. Cheers!
@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha
@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha 2 жыл бұрын
At 22mins when you accelerated ahead of the truck because you were unsure on what it was going to do, would this be OK on a Mod2 test? Or would the expectation from the examiner to be that you should hold back? But then that could be hesitation? Thanks
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Lovell Hi Paul, thank you for your question. Its difficult to give a definitive answer as to situations that may occur on test because it depends on many factors present at the time. However, in this situation on the video, when I was unsure of the trucks intentions I held back in case he changed lane. This was because we were in a 40 mph limit so going alongside was not safe as i couldnt get past the truck in one go. Had it been a higher speed limit I may have passed the truck quickly. However, when we got to the roundabout because he cant out run me at the low speed I got away quickly and therefore preserved my safety. If you had held back in this scenario it would be likely that you would have to stay behind the truck until you were sure he couldn't cut the lane or side swipe you. This roundabout had fairly wide lanes but some dont, so being alongside a large vehicle is potentially dangerous. On test, if you break the law or put your self or another road user potentially or actually in danger you will not pass. So if you are safe, its not a problem. Hesitancy is something a lot of people worry about, but safety has to come first. If you are so hesitant that a further problem arises then you may be looking a serious fault on test. But planning and anticipation of possible problems should not cause hesitancy issues. I hope this helps.
@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha
@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank you so much for the very detailed reply, that was incredibly useful.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@@DC_Cha_Cha_Cha you re welcome, i wish you well on your tests
@yuristuras7895
@yuristuras7895 3 ай бұрын
12:22 so whether you go into lane 1 or 2 from the roundabout its still a left signal and left observation, nothing changes it's whether you move towards the lane one if there's space or you go in lane 2 is that correct?
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 ай бұрын
Hi, yes in the example shown that is correct. Generally , on roundabouts, the life saver is in the direction of the widest area of road space as this is the highest risk of a vehicle coming alongside and conflicting. For lane changes the priority for a lifesaver is in the direction of the intended movement, although consideration could also be given to risk on the other side too.
@yuristuras7895
@yuristuras7895 3 ай бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR Just wanna say thank you for the reply and for these videos, probably the most useful ones out there and really helped me pass my Mod 2 today with only 2 minors! thanks again.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 3 ай бұрын
You are very welcome, glad to have been of help. Congratulations on your pass and I hope you enjoy your biking. Please consider some further training in the future, you might be surprised how different it is to direct access, and fun too! Ride safe
@DG-ig4wj
@DG-ig4wj 2 жыл бұрын
When turning right at a roundabout, you enter the roundabout go round and you see that the exit is blocked, do you stop and wait until the exit is clear or do you go round again until the exit is clear? This is for mod2. Would it be an issue to stop inside the roundabout? Hopefully that makes sense
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@D G i think this one has variables, because it will depend on several factors. What has to be considered first is safety and interference with other road users. If by stopping on a roundabout and you are likely to be struck from behind then you can expect a serious fault, similarly, if you were to block other road users from using the roundabout then expect a serious fault. If you are part of a big queue of traffic the issues become a bit less. If in doubt, go around again or take another exit safely. I cant give a categoric answer, but hope this helps.
@DG-ig4wj
@DG-ig4wj 2 жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR yes it helps. Also, if you’re coming out of a minor to a major road and are turning right but both sides are extremely busy and a car coming from the right hand side let’s you out by flashing you but the other side traffic is still moving. Do you move out to the middle of the road in from of the car that has flashed you and wait for the other side to let you in or do you just wait until both sides are clear? Grey area but can see it being a issue during a test
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 2 жыл бұрын
What if a car wasnt sure and they went around the roundabout twice? would that mess everything up with cutting people off? surely it wouldnt be your fault if some random car driver didnt know where they were going around the roundabout?
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Steve00 Alt its ok to go all the way round a roundabout if you are not sure where you are going, but should be done in the inside/right lane, not the outside/left. This should not cause a problem for traffic joining, if speeds are sensible and usual rules and good observations are applied. Ride safe
@richardgiles2484
@richardgiles2484 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil. I have had the same jacket as you for a long time and starting to show its age now unlike yours. As far as I know they have stopped making them so is this an old jacket you've had for a long time and only just started using it as I'd like to get the same again 🤔
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Giles Hi Richard, yes they are good jackets, I bought mine circa 2011 and its still serviceable if a little tired. Being Hein Gericke I wouldnt know now where to get a new one sadly.
@jamieb1826
@jamieb1826 Жыл бұрын
At 25:20 Surely the Toyota MPV has the right of way not you as there is a crossing on your side of the road and his side of the road is open? Also i was told to give two bike lengths gap between you and the vehicle in front when at a stop.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
The Toyota doesn't automatically have right of way, there is no crossing present here; i committed to coming past the part of the road that is built outwards at the point the suv just came into view. After this point there are cars parked on the offside which could mean its my right of way, however being on a bike i didn't need him to give way as there was enough space. A sensible space between you and the stationary vehicle in front is sensible, although 2 bikes lengths would be advice by an individual instructor and is not necessarily prescriptive industry standard.
@cedricduwat3839
@cedricduwat3839 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so useful! I have a question. After 11 mnts, you explain that despite going straight at a roundabout, you will use the right hand lane because you’ll go right again at the second roundabout a few hundred yards later. Makes sense. My question is: On exiting the first roundabout on the right hand lane to go straight, would you quickly indicate left on exit? As in, left life saver, left indicator which you then cancel immediately. Hope my question makes sense?
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
@Cedric Duwat hi Cedric, many thanks and thanks for your question which makes perfect sense. So I would consider an indicator; if there was a vehicle going ahead in the left lane (same direction as me) I probably would not signal as he may interpret that I would be moving across in front of him. However, if there was a car waiting to join the roundabout and was looking to see if I was going to turn right in front of him without signalling then I would likely do a quick left flash to show my intention to leave the roundabout so that they could enter the roundabout. I hope this makes sense? All the best
@cedricduwat3839
@cedricduwat3839 Жыл бұрын
@@MotorcyclePWR Thanks Phil. Let me paraphrase to ensure my understanding is correct: If there’s a vehicle following you in the left hand lane of that 1st roundabout because they’re exiting left at the second roundabout, they might think you’re about to move to your left if indicating left. So no indicator on exit. But if the roundabout is busy and vehicles travelling in the opposite direction from the bottom to the top, when looking to their right, your left indicator will tell them they can go ahead because you’re not turning right & going ahead. Would the instructors in Herne Bay let you get away with no indicator when exiting a roundabout though? That’s the question in the back of my mind… Not to mention both scenarios could happen as these roundabouts can be quite busy at rush hour… You could have both a vehicle following you in the left hand lane & vehicles going up looking to their right? Would a left indicator be considered as a major fault? I don’t want to over think it but I don’t want to fail again either…
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
@Cedric Duwat Hi Cedric, yes you are thinking right here. So when using signals, we have to look at the effect that using them or not could/would have on you and/or another road user. So is an effect is negligible or non existent, then there is no issue. But if there is an effect that compromises safety or requires the other road user to take action, then yes it would be serious. As regards the most complex scenario you mention, if your lane discipline was good (centre of lane, steady) then a brief left indicator would probably be unlikely to concern a following vehicle. However, a vehicle waiting to enter a roundabout should technically wait to see that the vehicle on the RA (in this case you on your bike) is definitely leaving the RA and not coming around. So reliance exclusively on others signals is not correct or sensible. This means that if your exit signal was missed, its probably not a big problem. Overthinking whilst riding is unhelpful, and when riding we all have to make decisions in the moment. I or your instructor on the day will be happy to discuss further when you revisit us for your retest if you wish. I hope this helps, all the best
@cedricduwat3839
@cedricduwat3839 Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, thanks for the comprehensive answer. It makes complete sense & I now fully understand what to do. Are you one of the instructor at the Herne Bay test centre!? I’m re taking my test end of august. I used Dexterity in Ashford who are very good, is there an opportunity for me to call Invicta & book a couple of hours with you riding around Herne Bay? I have now moved to whitstable since March & used Dexterity since I did my CBT with them a year ago when I lived in Ashford but having seen your videos, I would be keen to to book your services for a couple of hours to find tune my riding skills, not only for the test itself but just to gain general tips & confidence. Is it something. That can be organized via Invicta? (Ps: I have my MOD 1). And last, an idea for you, what about a video about riding at night? Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks, Cedric.
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR Жыл бұрын
@Cedric Duwat hi Cedric, thank you for your night video suggestion. I will address this when the days get even shorter! As regards training, can you drop me an e mail motorcyclepwr@gmail.com all the best
@aps-pictures9335
@aps-pictures9335 Жыл бұрын
This has changed now in terms of position, hasn’t it?
@oiuhwoechwe
@oiuhwoechwe 2 жыл бұрын
how many roundabouts where you live? jeeeez
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
quite a few!!
@juristimma5366
@juristimma5366 2 жыл бұрын
I did not pass my CBT ....roundabouts was problem for me...
@MotorcyclePWR
@MotorcyclePWR 2 жыл бұрын
@Juris Timma Sorry to hear that you didnt complete your CBT, remember its not pass or fail, just training until you are safe. I hope this video helps you and you complete your CBT soon
@Golfspieler
@Golfspieler Жыл бұрын
First Brexit and then you're driving on the wrong side😂😂🙈🙈😉🇨🇭.
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