GPS Device or Smartphone for Motorcycle Travel?
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Күн бұрынGPS or Smartphone, which is the best way to navigate your trips?
This will be the topic of the video, so if you have nothing to do, grab your favorite drink and stay with me!
Now, let me first tell you what is the difference between real motorcycle GPS devices, like Garmin Zumo or other brands, and GPS made for cars. In fact, I used one of these car GPS for many years.
They are cheaper and got more options in terms of size, brands, and models, but they have one big minus they are not designed for motorcycles. This basically means that they are not water, shock, and dustproof. With a few words, they won't last long. Of course, this depends on your riding style, how often, and in what weather or road conditions, but I hope that you got the idea!
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@soulrebelno1 Жыл бұрын
One benefit of having a dedicated GPS unit, or a second mobile/cell phone, is the safety aspect. Imagine if you come off your bike, you're injured, you can't move, you're alone, and no one knows you're there. The only way you can contact the emergency services is by using your mobile/cell phone, but it's on the bike and you can't reach it! A horrible situation to be in, but it could happen. Always have a mobile/cell phone on you when riding alone, so you can contact someone in an emergency, because one day you might need it, and it might just save your life.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
True
@jakubgalinski2135 4 ай бұрын
Add cheapest watch that you can connect to your phone would also be an idea.
@patrickpaulo34 24 күн бұрын
Get a 2nd phone. 😅
@jimpettitt3229 Жыл бұрын
I'm in Australia 🇦🇺 and really like you no B.S no nonsense personality you must obviously have. I respect your informed information, not going on about brands I really appreciate how you put your in front of the camera and be Pavlin. The person you are well done thanks for good videos from Jim onya mate 👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jim!
@HRAZZI 11 ай бұрын
I remember the 80's... people used to point at a direction with their hand and say 'over there' 🤣
@tomaskral4685 Жыл бұрын
Hey Pavlin! Thanks a lot for this episode that will surely help "dinosaurs" like me out there! You've answered all my questions. Thanks again! Greetings from the Czech Republic! Tomas👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help, Tomas!
@tomaskral4685 Жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures You sure did!
@d.Cog420 Жыл бұрын
@@tomaskral4685 great question Tomas. I have good memories of riding around your beautiful country in 1990. Had an amazing time and met some cool people (great beer and food too).
@tomaskral4685 Жыл бұрын
@@d.Cog420 Thanks d.CoG! I've always been the guy resisting progress. You know, when CDs came out I went like "screw that, I got my cassette tapes" . Then I got into CDs. Recently I wanted to buy a new car..."what, no CD player?!? You just lost a customer!"😁. Anyway, for the longest time my navigation was my mouth. I would stop and ask someone for directions( or consult a map). But my cousin (who's 20 years younger) suggested I use Waze about 2 years ago. I tried it, and it saved my ass many times. Still, there are many areas where I'm out of touch with modern times and the latest technology. That's why a video like this one is invaluable for me. I really got a lot from it. I'll be watching it many times over, of course ..
@d.Cog420 Жыл бұрын
@@tomaskral4685 I used to love new tech, will never forget my first walkman but there are so many choices and options these days and I don't know how the kids don't live on the edge of an overload breakdown! I like the point you make about asking being a large part of navigation back then too and through that how you meet new people and even end up in bars with them or their house at times. I just did a big trip around my country with GPS, smartphone and a new bike that is so much more advanced now it is much less liable to break down. As a result we had a great time and got good photos but didn't talk to anyone. Almost seems a bit hollow by comparison.
@koam7234 Жыл бұрын
I tryed many options, at least i come to following set up: My old Smartphone HUAWEI mate 20 Pro with TomTom and Google Map only for navigation. The phone is waterproof and attached permanently on the Bike, it is also plugged all the time with it's own cable. So far no problems with vibrations. No Sim card inside, if needed, I use my normal smartphone as a Hotspot. I have a single cable going into my Tankbag charging my Powerbank during riding. So far, this setup works fine for me... one plus is the fact, that it connects easily to my Cardo-System by Bluetooth, i can hear the navigation-command as well Musik in my Helmet. Keep on your nice content and style of videos!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Hamp-nozeHrbek 4 ай бұрын
Mám to úplně stejné, nejlepší je starší mobilní telefon jen na navigaci a osobní mobilní telefon na komunikaci.
@BGP_95 Жыл бұрын
" If you have nothing to do grab your favorite drink and stay with me !"......I don't know why this feels so relaxing and probably the best intro I've ever heard.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@meinekleineweltreise Жыл бұрын
After 25.000km with my 2020 AfricaTwin this year, for me the perfect combination is Android Auto / CarPlay of my AT combined with a cheap ruggedly ulefone armor cellphone. Never used my Garmin xt again since I started my journey. Usually use Google maps for tarmac and Locus for off-road. I just love this combo!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Supernova12034 Жыл бұрын
I have 2022 africa twin adventure sports, the android auto never works, the bike never detects my cardo headset bluetooth...
@meinekleineweltreise Жыл бұрын
@@Supernova12034 I’m sorry for you. But I cab switch from iPhone to Android phone back and forth and had never any issues. Have you updated your bike?
@SieRoX87 Жыл бұрын
@@Supernova12034you don’t actually need to connect a headset on the AT with CarPlay/Android. Just hold the back button when the message comes up. It will just bypass the requirement for a headset and you can use CarPlay/Android.
@rogerdepretto440 Жыл бұрын
Found paper maps easier only use GPS on phone to find address in towns Kiss Keep it simple stupid.😊
@whitedrguy6503 Жыл бұрын
The great thing about being old is I learned to navigate pre GPS or internet and computers, only paper maps, and strangely it has never been a major issue. 9 years ago when I went over to the UK and Romania I bought a hand held hiking GPS I carried in my pocket, it helped me navigate the cities but was basically there to let me know where I was rather than show me how to get somewhere, trying to get out of London was a nightmare but I did succeed.. Now I do the same thing with a phone and offline maps, it still only lets me know where I am and I guess the rest. If you traveled pre SatNav it is no different now, a SatNav or GPS is not essential, nor even a Smartphone, but they are convenient at times. Don’t want to sound like an old dinosaur but I did learn mathematics before calculators and writing before spell check, so navigating without a GPS is not that difficult. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I am with you!
@StefanJZX6 Жыл бұрын
Getting out of cities always seems harder than in. I also remember pre GPS, sitting with the map together with the gang in the evening deciding the route then writning notes to stick on the tank bag.
@teneretraveller8980 Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive. For me I do my planning on maps, mark route, and transfer the route to a program I can save and store in my gps, backed up on my phone. But often I see something off route I want to follow, and then just follow my nose. Whatever works. Happy travels 👍 Good one 👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@o0Bananaphone0o Жыл бұрын
I prefer using my phone for navigation, like you said - the possibilities are pretty much unlimited. OsMand is my favourite App for offroad and TET navigation. Google Maps is my favourite for simple and fast road navigation. But on longer trips I do always carry a good old papaer map and compass, just in case 😉
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good!
@milankanazir5852 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@MustafaMustafa-uy5xx 8 ай бұрын
Yes,and also, what was,how was before smartphones and navy, i think for sure good to have 1 but i also like to stop,5min,helmet off,feel the place,drink water,look the map and ask the locals, takes a minute.but sur is nice to have a navi.offcourse
@llama233 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really useful. I personally use a second phone as the vibration of a motorcycle can kill your camera so my main phone stays safely in my pocket. I am loving the new studio too, the videos look great!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andrew!
@cosmo00013 Жыл бұрын
Pavlin, excellent video with good or not so great things for every each device and you are correct, bottom of the line whatever fit you better that is the perfect option for you but I loved the way you present all the possibilities. Good Job !!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@rnguerreiro Жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Simple and direct. (another) Great video!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@skiphalbakken859 Жыл бұрын
Great video Palvin. I recently installed a Zumo XT on my T7. It’s nice not to have to use my phone and I don’t have to be concerned about weather or vibration.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I am sure that it is a great device. Thanks for sharing!
@MegaBasher666 Жыл бұрын
Bought same Zumo XT amazing device
@davidb9323 Жыл бұрын
Or losing signal
@muppets_inc Жыл бұрын
For proper off-roading I have been using Gaia GPS. It was primarily made for hiking and overlanding, however I've found it great for the motorbike. Works on all platforms and has a web interface as well - so you can make routes on your big home PC and they automatically sync to your mobile devices.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@PH_MACHADO Жыл бұрын
Very good hints and specific approach! Thank you 👏👏👏
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@musaziz1948 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, thank you for sharing this very useful and essential information. Much appreciated.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mr.solitude3352 Жыл бұрын
A very helpful subject to cover. Thank you very much.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BlackThor15 Жыл бұрын
Awesome episode Pavlin, thanks for sharing!! 👍👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@DayumSonny Жыл бұрын
I use an old smartphone with the battery removed. A few wiring connections allowed me to connect it directly to my CBR 250R. If I want to access maps with the internet, I turn on the Wi-Fi and turn my current smartphone's hotspot on and usually download the maps. It's helped tremendously and because there's no battery, there's no overheating issues for the most part. Using this trick for the past 5 years with no issues.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thanks!
@spicy__roads3422 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video, I am starting my first motorbike trip at the end of September and i was very confused about buying or not a dedicated GPS. Great video
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@juanms8747 Жыл бұрын
For medium / long distance travels, my suggestion is to have both. They provide different information, and you always have a backup. It's even more important when you are crossing frontiers, if you are unable to connect to internet and you dont have the chance to download offline navigation. Also, the phone fails quite a lot, as you pointed out, when you are above 35ºc or in minus degrees, they tend to shut off, the ruggerized gps worth every penny on this matter. Also many people underestimate the gradual damage electronics takes with vibration. The problem with Garmin gps (i have a 4 years old zumo xt) is that you need to connect it to a PC for updates, or to manage tracks, and you need basecamp to do so (very very annoying, i dont know if this happen to tom tom users). If you dont have a backup, just dust off one of those old phones abandoned on your wardrove, and keep it as backup on your luggage. Very nice video ;)
@markomilojevic842 Жыл бұрын
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@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GuzzizbIm Жыл бұрын
Tank you again for an nice video. One thing I learned is to change the language in Googlemaps when I travel in countries that spell their villages names differently than on the map I have. Even when the country uses a different alphabet, this can be a very good help to find the right way.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@BoTour Жыл бұрын
I’ve used a TomTom car gps in a waterproof case for many years. It still works today and it has lifetime updates for worldmaps, it even has gpx and twisty routes. This year I started using an old Samsung s8, again with TomTom software for routing or Google maps when I’m looking for something specific like an ATM. I mounted it above the dash and charge it with a wireless charger, so no cable or connector issues. I keep my regular phone in the pocket of my motorcycle jacket. I like the phone solution more, because it is more versatile and compact.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@martinpahl5652 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, for Garmin car GPS you need an OTG ( = on the go) usb cable or adapter. OTG is a specific usb cable connection. You can then connect to a normal usb power supply and it will be recognised as a power supply by the GPS. Works for me on two motorcycles.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good to know, thanks for adding!
@andreadileo6267 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video, thank you so much. I found it very precise and useful! Thanks
@iangrimshaw1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin. Nothing to do with navigation but love the 'old school' glass jars with metal lids screwed to underside of workshop shelves for small parts storage. Respect from UK!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ian!
@Dedalus11973 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, my experience has been positive with my old galaxy s10e and a 20 euro qi wireless charge I bought on ebay. Waterproof, no wires, charger connected to the battery. I've travelled around west africa and europe with no issues whatsoever.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@SandraOrtmann1976 Жыл бұрын
That was really interesting. We use google maps for about everything, but we do not go that far (and we still have paper maps just in case). Regarding devices: an option to consider, if you do not need gigantic amounts of data or the latest games, may be a real "outdoor" phone, water and dustproof. We now bought one for our daughter (she is now also fully into motorcycle riding and her phone got rained on - did not survive - no IP rating or something like that.). So he chose a brick of a phone, which she uses only for navigation. She does not need any of those cases, and the battery has 13.800 mAh, which is more than enough for one weekend. It is rather heavy, but for short messages in WhatsApp (I still like to read from her when she reached a destination) or a quick call, it is okay. Mounted to the handlebar, it does not matter.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information, Sandra!
@WoodlandsArchive Жыл бұрын
Thank you my trusted friend! I have just received my Tenere, partially based on your recommendations :) For navigation I went out and spent the big bucks for the garmin Montana 750i. Oja what money...
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Enjoy your new toy!
@garycollins3908 Жыл бұрын
Found your channel - Fantastic. Really good common sense advice that is sorely needed. ("There are old Motorcyclists; And there are bold Motorcyclists. But very few old, bold motorcyclists"). I find myself nodding along in agreement with your vids - and can personally attest to the fact that Car GPS's will fail after a few 000 KM's on a Bike (even when riding only on sealed roads). Took less than a few thousand km's to turn bar-mounted Navman to a brick.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@gyorgyrabenschwartz9610 Жыл бұрын
Whatever consumer gadget you choose for navigation, always take a printed road map as backup! You will need it sooner than expected.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@lloydsplace101 5 ай бұрын
very good info. i used an old car gps last sept traveling through Kansas. it was about 5.00 at a yd sale. it bit the dust the second day in the rain. my next one will be one for a motorcycle
@motorcycleadventures 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@zlatkomartinovic8256 Жыл бұрын
Greetings Pavlin Finally a slight return to the old ways when you became popular and then a small period of stagnation or whatever. I hope for a complete return when we were waiting impatiently for a new video. This is just my opinion Greetings from Serbia😁
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@zlatkomartinovic8256 Жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures 😃👍
@patdy1781 Жыл бұрын
Great tips and recommendations!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@hmoosawi Жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rbonczyk Жыл бұрын
All material is very good 👍 I think that there is also one big difference between phone and navi, the GPS signal is better in navi, phone, a specially when is bad weather, can loose the signal. But I agree with you Palvin, I'm using my old phone, Black View with big baterry, screen and contrast. A map I use is TomTom Go Navigation and I like it. The fact is that Google Maps is the best with names. When you write something not correctly it has always some right suggestions. 😁👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time, Robert!
@mattchan383 Жыл бұрын
Great video, tried both phone and GPS consoles like android/iOS, consoles like garmin and Tomtom, the key is the accuracy of google/local map on the phone or the map/ver of the country where the consoles can be purchased All depends on where will you travel , let say China or Russia , the local app on phone is more accurate than the map of console like Garmin
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@andrashorvath4887 Жыл бұрын
Nice detailed video! Greetings from Hungary :)
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@keithdemers6068 Жыл бұрын
Best of all worlds. Paper maps for the big picture, I can spread it out and see a lot of area at once. Garmin Zumo XT mounted and smart phone with Google maps. You are correct about the spelling issues with Zumo but with the smart phone I can easily get the correct spelling to enter. In my opinion, the biggest problem with Google maps is the limited number of way points. I tend to get carried away some times. Set your motorcycle up to recharge your battery packs and you never have to worry about them. Of the three options, paper maps is still my favorite one. If something happens to one, they can be easily replaced. Safe travels!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I also prefer the maps but in modern days not many will use it.
@alejandroclaude2826 Жыл бұрын
Great video with sensible advise! I regularly save my older smartphone each time I upgrade and keep it only for navigation purposes. I also own a Garmin car GPS and I never pay for map updates. I legally download and install Open street maps for it. Finally I would greatly appreciate if you can review the BeeLine navigator, as I actually am on the fence on buying it. Greetings from southern Chile!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@AffyNoX Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin Previously I use the Navigator 5 on my beemer R1200GSA, but after sometime I started to put adaptor in the cradle to use phone. I just completed a 24 days solo tour on my tiny bike, on this trip I use an old iphone 7+ with usb plug in 100% of time rain or shine. After that trip I recently purchase a secondhand Kyocera Torque G4 which is water proof and a samsung A7 to upgrade my gps setup, the 7 inch samsung I will use as a big screen during dry weather, when it rain I will use the Kyocera phone. Android has a fantastic apps Drive Mode Dashboard 2 which make it very easy to organise your nav apps and most use apps. I installed in on both the android device. Do have a look at it.. 👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@louparedes9310 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavin, I used a Garmin drive 52 with the European download when I went to Serbia last summer, it worked well on the Skoda rental car. I traveled 1200 kilometers with no issues
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
It works good 95% of the time.
@Steveuser-fv1wt2cb3u 4 ай бұрын
I like my Tomtom 550 Rider GPS. Was expensive but very worthwhile. Easy to update and operate.
@motorcycleadventures 4 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@MrGAdam Жыл бұрын
That is exactly how I would write Szeged. Hope you come to this area soon and maybe we can meet sometimes. Greetings from a fellow Hungarian.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@TheFoxyt2 Жыл бұрын
Pavlin, love the vids and real world experience! I've been using roadbook on a ruggerized phone (from amazon for under $200) that has 5000 MAHs, so I charge it at night w/o vibrations. carpe-navigation is on my wish list for the tenere 700, but for the dirt bike, ruggerized phone with roadbook.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@alanseery4458 Жыл бұрын
What model did you buy?
@TheFoxyt2 Жыл бұрын
@@alanseery4458 OUKITEL WP5 Pro Rugged Cell Phone Unlocked
@domster200 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFoxyt2 Tried that model and it bricked itself very quickly, CAT phone no problems for 6 years.
@d.Cog420 Жыл бұрын
@@domster200 how is it on the bike? Been thinking about one of these. I have a Garmin XT but the software is dinosaur to use, just don't want to break my iPhone and be stuck without communication
@arnavsadhu Жыл бұрын
I think using an old iphone on a good quality holder which has paddings is a great solution with infinite possibilities. GPS devices can never even come close to competing with them.From the touch quality to the screens themselves. Plus amazon has millions of products designed for you to protect the phone from sunlight to weather.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Agree
@MegaBasher666 Жыл бұрын
Just changed from smartphone to dedicated navigation device after many years. Visibility one of the important things. I used before scenic, google maps.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good!
@benjpk9 Жыл бұрын
Great content, you also need to be mindful of vibration killing the phone camera's image stabilization. It's worth investing in a mount that damps the vibration
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
True!
@rshe3332 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, thank you for the video. Actually the best and most cost efficient way is to use one of rugged mobiles for £100 - £200 dedicated for navigation. closer to £200 you cen get really good stuff with filtered screen, waterproof, powerful and wireless charged. Then you mount wireless charger behind holder and voila! This is what I have done. Works like a dream. I have multiple navigation systems on it plus WhatApp for receiving information. Dedicated, highly overpriced, single system, closed sat navs are the relicts of the past. Just my thoughts.
@d.Cog420 Жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting. Can you recommend a brand?
@rshe3332 Жыл бұрын
Sure, Blackview BV4300 Pro
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@FabricioConrado Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm from Brasil, I have a Garmin Zumo 396 lm and don't need a 9v adaptor, just plug ir direct on batery (and in comes with a cabe for that); I have all map (here, EU and Rest of the world) free and I can update it wireless. If you don't like garmin maps (Powered by Here), have many GPS communities that you can download to your device any map you want. I used for a long time a cellphone as navagator, when a changed to a Zumo it was a life changer. No internet and all information on that, anywhere. Don't have to be a "xt", look for a 396, cheaper and does the same job. I like your vídeo, keep de good job. Big hug. ✌️🤘👊👍
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@terryb5053 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy!!!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@meandnumber734 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you PAVLIN Things I didn't know about traveling in Europe
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@perdu0609 Жыл бұрын
Hi, not using Wikiloc ? sometimes interesting when you want some "offroad" roads (or when you are in countries where even google map as problems) . Always nice to see your videos !
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@janikrombach8264 Жыл бұрын
I travelled the TET for four months and only used my phone (Samsung Galaxy S20) to navigate. It’s really versatile especially for off-road use. I used LocusMaps Pro, the best navigation app in my opinion. It costs about 10€ but it’s worth it’s money. Maps cost under a euro per country and you can download lots of different maps. I only used the ones from LocusMaps itself. They are extremely detailed. There are a lot of good videos about LoMaps on KZfaq. For roads or city’s I use Google Maps. The only downside to the phone is, it overheats quickly so it turns down the brightness of the screen so you can’t see very well. And the worst thing, if you ride off road it will destroy your camera if you have mechanical zoom or stabilisation. This is the main reason I’m switching to a real gps this year.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@user-vu7my6kd4g Жыл бұрын
In terms destroing optical zoom/stabilisation - this is why I'm thinking of buying another smartphone like Cat S41/61 just for navigation purposes. Still cheaper and easier to use than gps-motorcycle-navigation and Cat is water&shock&dust proof.
@samhill8919 Жыл бұрын
very good info especially for me coming from usa to euro area. The sim card deal is useful. I read maps as an engineer and surveyor and traveler for 50 yrs now. however finding a cystoms office at border or a motel hostel in a crowded foreign town one needs all the help they can get. I only doeak some spanish and french basic english is my native. So dialec issues for me. A motorcycle gos is good exoensive yes bit is only device that wil last if taken good care of. google has best maos. a screen shot tajen dsy before is good as you can enlarge it. thanks again. you did a god job
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Use whatever option is good for you, Sam!
@tnetroP Жыл бұрын
Another option may be to use a tablet designed for harsh conditions. I've just bought a used Samsung Galaxy Tab Active3 8" tablet. I haven't tried it on the bike yet. But it is a rugged tablet designed for use in wet or dusty conditions (it works underwater), is allegedly resistant to vibrations, works with gloves on, can run any GPS software designed for Android (or Google Maps of course), has a memory card slot if needed, is bigger than any dedicated GPS and also a SIM card slot (for data). Because it's Android you can split the screen and run two different apps on each side if you want. I'll try it when I get another bike but in theory it should be good.
@ThePlatonius Жыл бұрын
I do not have any experience with GPS devices but on my travels I use my phone. Problems like the charging port issue that Pavlin described happen to me multiple times. Long rain will make the charging port wet and it will complain that there is water in the port. You can not charge it for a while after that. You need to get it dry. My next upgrade will be a mount with wireless charging and a second phone that just has maps. I will put the phone in a as waterproof cover as possible and hope it works out fine. I have had already a few close calls with battery almost dead on a trip in a place where I needed to find a specific camp grounds or fuel station in a new country I have never been to and its not a really good feeling :)
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@MJ-tz8cq 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I use a combination of Garmin Outdoor Navigation system (not covered in this Video) and Smartphone
@DirkSchmele Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, I always like to have two options and one will work at least. That's why I use one GPS device (TomTom) and one Mobile Phone based (e.g. BMW Connect). Both showed up to be not 100% reliable 🌻
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good!
@NomHeads Жыл бұрын
Regarding power banks, i can highly recommend Telwin. It can not only charge devices and work as a flash light but also jump start a dead battery many times. I've even started a tracktor that had a dead battery with it.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@sorenmelchior Жыл бұрын
Here in Alaska I use a Garmen Montana 700i, as I use it for hiking, jeeping, and moto. Plus it has satellite texting for emergency's, or giving friends info on your present location and health status without needing a cellular signal. It's Expensive, waterproof, expensive, shock resistant, expensive, and for satellite service... more expensive for active sub. But it's worth it when something bad happens, so I treat it like trip insurance.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@fatpat9378 Жыл бұрын
Samsung tab active 2/3/4 waterproof and big screen or rugged smartphone . Good Video
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@rodandopelomundo Жыл бұрын
I like to use the garmin gpsmap series (I've used 60XC, 64S, 66S). easy to operate with gloves (good old buttons, no touch). I can take it off the bike and continue using it on walks. they do not depend on a permanent connection to the motorcycle, they work with standard or rechargeable AA batteries. a pair of AA batteries lasts a full day or more. can use OSM maps. resistant, no problems with vibrations, dust, heat or rain. cell phones are convenient, but they suffer from overheating in hot places like here in Brazil
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@robertkoch1936 4 ай бұрын
I use my Garmin Navigator 5 on my BMW R1200 GS with the factory mount and have never had a problem. But in some ways I am still old school. I use a paper map and Goggle Maps to lay out my route and use a list of waypoints to plug into the GPS. I carry my smart phone in my jacket, so if I would have an accident the phone is where I can get to it for help. Plus I can charge the phone in my tank bag.
@motorcycleadventures 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@riaanleroux5017 9 ай бұрын
Great Video, Thank you.
@motorcycleadventures 9 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@juanantonio2818 Жыл бұрын
Very good video too,thank you .
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@gr8reels Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tolfan123456 Жыл бұрын
Hi there! I have uppdated my garmin xt so now I see all gravelroads an tracks very good. I even see bareiers. Realy good. But as you say. It cost me abott 150 dollar. Thanks for good info 👌😊 To bad I cant post a picture of it.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@KubaRozpruwacz1983 Жыл бұрын
QuadLock sells wireless charging mounts that work pretty well. No need to connect the cable to your phone and even if the USB port gets humid you still charge
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
I use the old smartphone for navigation each time I replace my daily driver. My preferred mapping is TomTom, as the maps are download, and use little memory, so it's convenient. TomTom enables complicated routes to be easy planned using as many waypoints as you need. Charging is via a wireless charger, so you can stick tape over the unused ports if you think there's a danger of wet or dust getting in. I may switch to Google Maps or Waze for local navigation as these provide a different sort of information.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@dbmiller5881 Жыл бұрын
After years of trial and error, I've settled on a second, cheap smartphone (no sim card) on my bike for music and gps - and keep my "good" smartphone in my pocket. I share the internet connection of the good phone, via bluetooth to the one on the bike. While I've never had it... I think new bikes with Android Auto / Apple Car play are TOTAL game-changers!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@ryanmalone2681 Жыл бұрын
Voile connectivity is great, but I live in Tennessee in the US and 70% of my time traveling there is no signal from any provider. I use my phone with maps downloaded and the route, a Garmin Montana with the routes and maps with a satellite subscription, and a Garmin XT. I keep them all going when touring away from home and can triangulate, but it’s a pain and requires some babysitting.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@d.Cog420 Жыл бұрын
I just came across Carpe Iter navigation system. You need to look at this Pavlin, it is on another level.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Ok
@philoubxl9176 Жыл бұрын
You have also now an evolution of the Garmin XT... The Garmin TRADE supersports 5,5" (on road +offroad navigation)
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding!
@ovidiuclitan7181 Жыл бұрын
Hy, Pavlin. I agree with you, after I experienced a lot of situations. What I wana ask you is to talk in a future video about insurance. What you use, what you can recomand us. Especially for us from eastern countries, no many companies want to assure us. Is a regular insurance enough for traveling in remotes places like Patagonia or Pamir? what is your experience with this? maybe have an German passport you have not met such situations. For me, being for Romania , was a challenge to find a proper ensure. Thank you in advance.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I do not have German passport. I will think about it and might make a video.
@bartel-shop Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video :)
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@guyver.one. Жыл бұрын
Why not using the Wireless chargers for connector issues? Here in Pakistan the heating issue is same as I faced, that the phones get very hot due to high temperatures.. during the day time charging, specially when the phones are charging with the 4G data is on, mostly that happened during 11am to 4pm. Overall its a great advice. 👍👍👍
@SamiNami Жыл бұрын
I Wonder what mount you use? I bought a quadlock and it was trash! Broke the first time I dropped the bike...
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
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@gscheben123 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the best solution would be: "Use both, GPS for off-road with track files, and Cellphone for on-road where there is good cell coverage"?
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Might be for you.
@chamade166 Жыл бұрын
There are apps for smartphones that can use track files.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
There is everything nowadays.
@miclinda256 Жыл бұрын
I use zumo xt and iPhone 13 mini with sp connect pro and anti vibration option! No problems on My t7 ( 7500km) handy to just twist of THE phone ,to take pictures ! And trust me off road safe!
@SymonSR20 Жыл бұрын
Hello Pavlin! There is another option, Garmin Montana and Oregon. They are meant for outdoor use so they are rugged enough and they use regular AAA batteries. I have one and it works for me. The problem is only that they are smaller so you need to have good eyes. And yeah I know that it doesn't correct names but that I can search with phone, I can search addres but then use GPS so I don't drain phone battery.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Hoxo Жыл бұрын
Not really i had few collogues that their Montana broke after guaranty when my zumo 590 still works after 6 years. I belive it is shock that is issue with Montana
@johnfitzgerald4274 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@streetfightertutorial Жыл бұрын
Maybe there's another little pro about the motorcycle gps devices (like the Zumo): in most cases they have dedicated mount for car use also. So in the long run it could be worth, since the factory devices installed on both bikes and cars are generally crappy and tricky/expensive to update.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
True!
@wonniethepoop7856 Жыл бұрын
I'd choose beeline moto device (though I don't have one yet). It's cheaper than big navigators and smaller, of course it works with smartphone but you hold it in safe place during your way. Of course you can miss a turn with it, but together with paper maps you probably won't. What about route planning you I'm fallen in love with GAIA GPS despite it's expensive cervice, but probably the best. I can to plan a route here which can include minor dirt roads and trails and than to export it as gpx file to you with beeline moto as well as print all the parts of planned route. I wish I knew how to buy beeline moto in my country now, but going to try different ways later.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Use whatever works for you!
@MLeitao Жыл бұрын
I have 2 phones, older phone conected to a usb charger, and my regular phone with wireless charging, they're both water and dust resistent, the only problem i had was with my personal phone was exposed to the sun, and to hot and don't charge. But theres good rugged phones out there, with good battery life. One thing that i'm thinking it's a 7" rugged tablet, the bigger screen i think it's a must have, even if you want to make a ride with digital road book.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@pegsgripsandgrins Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, I recent traveled 5000 miles from the UK to Sozopol to Bulgaria on my R1250 GSA armed with both bmw connect cradle for my iPhone and the garmin nav 6. In my case both were useful and had serious flaws. Garmin nav is clunky, dated and incredibly hard to use as an easy navigation solution. Horrendously outdate dated to plan long trips and unreliable. My phone in the cradle had great nav options of course however was useless in the 35 degree sun from east Hungary to Sozopol as the screen simply blacked out. So in my opinion neither were suitable 😂. On another not don’t cargo-net plastic bottles of water on your pillion seat, it cost me £300 to replace the seat after the sun tried to set fire to it 😂. My trip can be seen on my channel
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@colinlewis4711 Жыл бұрын
Excelant vid i use samsung s9 and tom tom rider never let me down yet
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good!
@davidgiles5030 Жыл бұрын
I've used both. I use my iphone 8 and google maps. Reliable and up to date world wide. Leaving for Europe next month. The phone with a european sim card will take me where I want to go.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good luck on your trip!
@AffyNoX Жыл бұрын
Repost from your latest video. Hi Pavlin, I see you mounting a smart phone as the nav unit. I just came back from a trip to Thailand, and upgrade my gps phone. Have a look at those Chinese made rugged phone with massive battery from Oukitel, BlackView or Ulefone. I just bought a cheap one from Oukitel the battery will last all day riding and the phone is rugged and waterproof.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@macplus3339 Жыл бұрын
How many cheap auto GPS's can you buy for the price of a zumo xt? I ride my bike about 40K miles a year in all kinds of weather conditions. I put a zip lock bag over it in the rain. Cheap and thin enough that the GPS works as if it wasn't iy wasn't in the bag. I also use a smartphone with a waterproof cover. GPS works all the time, Smartphone depends on having a cell signal.
@rupertmarsden9088 Жыл бұрын
When I travelled around South America I only used paper maps aided by a compass on the featureless salt flats in Bolivia. Absolutely no problem at all. If I was ever in doubt I asked the locals, who were always helpful. Perhaps I am showing my age!!!
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@skripy Жыл бұрын
I love my garmin zumo XT. But I use also my smartphone occasionally for navigation only with voice instructions over the helmet intercom. The smartphone remains in my pocket. So the display remains deactivated and the smartphone gets less hot and the battery does not empty so quickly. This works well for me.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@rar45 Жыл бұрын
i think carplay or aindroid auto are the future so i am still surprised that there is still nothing on the aftermarked devices especially for motorcycles
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
They will come.
@davidviola7114 Жыл бұрын
hey everyone thanks pavlin for your interesting video as an alternative solution there are shockproof and waterproof telephones they generally have a large battery and are very resistant to bad weather
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
True, there are but with not so good software. Good option for navigation.
@davidviola7114 Жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures some brands (eg blackcview, AGM) are really worth looking into they don't have the latest version of android but have useful options for roadtrips
@FrancoisTX1974 Жыл бұрын
it's the way I took. I have my iPhone to do hotspot for a rugged 6.6 inch phone where I have downloaded maps and other apps.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@renatofigueiredo2005 Жыл бұрын
Very good save my day!!👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@drumaniac91 Жыл бұрын
I wish google maps would allow you to send a specific route to the phone instead of its preferred way (for example, some intersections or roads I drive around to avoid). Only way I found to do this is to add stops around the route, but hopefully they are close to the road so you dont have to stop.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
It is what it is!
@Krisz85 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Regards from close to Szeged! :)
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!
@Boudi-xy9by Жыл бұрын
Hi Pavlin, thanks for the info, but Using a modern mobile phone wil not work for several reasons 1e Overheating (and they will especially in bright sunshine, in the south of Europe) 2e The camera (if you use models with mechanical lenses mechanism) will break. (And no mount will protect you for that) they not designed for the vibrations on a inline twin, and defiantly not for a one-cylinder Enduro machine. 3e the power connectors (USB-C, USB-2.0 (type-A), ore even lightning connector, which is the most robust option (because there is a little click mechanism build in) will not hold forever, and they definitely get moister and dust in it and the connection will get corrosion eventually (experience it myself on several occasions with different phones). 4e They also expensive … unless you use a cheap model … but they are mostly not rugged and not as waterproof as a the more expensive Samsungs or iPhones. I agree with you that the software is mostly better on IOS or Android, that’s a fact. So for me there is only one option for now, dedicated navigation system like Garmin Zumo-XT, or TomTom, or even better ones like the one you showed for ATV vehicles. It is more expensive but you get more for the money.
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Each has some pros and cons. That's why I use paper map and a second telephone only when I need to find a specific address.
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