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Jawa 350 2024 First Impressions | MotorInc First S02E08
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Күн бұрынThe Jawa 350 is almost all-new for 2024 featuring an updated 334cc engine, a new frame and a series of tweaks aimed at an improved experience for riders and owners. Shumi tells Kartikeya on MotorInc First, that that's not all!
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MotorInc First is a discussion between experts Kartikeya Singhee and Shumi (Shubhabrata Marmar), co-founders of MotorInc on new vehicles. Each episode will discuss one vehicle in great detail, covering the experience of driving or riding it, as well as what it means for the industry.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Wider Conversation
01:39 Who is Classic Legends
03:39 Anti-Incumbency
05:58 Not a Great Start
06:58 Jawa 350 Engine Update
08:50 A Larger Motorcycle
09:24 OG Jawas Were Genius
10:38 So Many Updates
11:45 Service Camps Coming!
13:14 Very Different From Classic 350
14:39 A Basics Recap
16:58 Instruments Updated
17:35 This Is The Start
19:10 Riding The Jawa 350
23:10 A Few Glitches
24:04 Where Does Jawa Go Next?
29:40 Just a 'nice' bike?
31:20 Changing For The Better
32:07 Colours, Prices & Variants
33:18 A Better Bike For Sure
33:57 Closing Comments
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@roadsridesandbeyond6502 6 ай бұрын
sunday-ing has never been so refreshing before...I just heard my wife saying this to my 5 year old, "papa is listening to shumi and karthikey, dont go there"....wow thats a gradual change in the atmosphere....elated!!
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Oh wow wow wow! Say hello to family from all of us, RoadRidesAndBeyond! And a big hug for the little one!
@roadsridesandbeyond6502 6 ай бұрын
@@motorinc ❤
@predatoranky03 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha..that's actually such a refreshing atmosphere and comment you got! 😁✌🏻
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! One of things we're proudest of is the warmth, intelligence and respectfulness of MotorInc Family!
@sho_k1 6 ай бұрын
I just wanna say there is no channel (internationally) that can compete with you right now. The sleekness, freshness, calmness and the knowledge..ness!? of this channel is unparallel.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much sho_k1! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
@AmanSharma-sn8js 6 ай бұрын
"if you stick to benchmarking - you will never be original" - I feel even outside bikes, this is just great life advice. Thanks Shumi 🤜🏼
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
🤜🏽🤛🏽 Glad we can help!
@AmalDevYT 6 ай бұрын
True
@arnabseal7629 6 ай бұрын
@@motorinc I have got a solution pitch in a couple of weeks from now, I'm gonna use this phrase if it's cool with you guys.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely Arnab! Best of luck!
@AmanSharma-sn8js 6 ай бұрын
@@arnabseal7629 all the best bro!
@surepallymanideep6824 6 ай бұрын
This is the best way to review a motorcycle. Never have i ever paid this much attention to a conversation about a motorcycle review. You guys make me feel more interested in motorcycling all together. Thank you so much Shumi and Karthikeya and all the people who were involved in making MotorInc a reality.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Manideep! Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
@MurgiBaba 6 ай бұрын
Mysore, Karnataka (where I'm from) was home to the Ideal Jawa Factory, which made Jawa and Yezdi in the 60s and 70s. Its founder, F K Irani, a true giant of a man, started the Ideal Jawa Rotary school along with his wife, which was one of the finest private schools in Mysore (where I studied), with many teachers from the Anglo-Indian community. They also gave admission to many children from poor families and never discriminated. When the factory was shut down, many mechanics from the factory started their own shops/garages. To this day, vintage Jawa rides are organized, and as an ode to the founder and factory, it passes along the route where the factory was located. Ironically, when the new Jawa opened their showroom in my city around 2 years ago, and to this day in their marketing, they LEAVE OUT this vital piece of history. Mysore is a student city with many educational institutions for Bachelors and Master's, hardly any college-going kid is seen with a Jawa. It's always a KTM or Royal Enfield. Maybe, as you said, they were so focused on benchmarking, that they forgot its heritage origins and what could have been one of its biggest markets.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Wow! What a story MurgiBaba! Not touching on their history while in Mysore certainly feels like a miss!
@tariqomar0 6 ай бұрын
Thinking about what Karthikeya said about how Jawa and RE are two different riding experences, the benchmarking thing makes a lot of sense now because I own a Jawa Classic and the only reason I bought that bike is because I am not a fan of the RE philosophy of a laid-back riding. I always wanted my bike to look classic, but be engaging and fast. And while Jawa failed at other things, they provided this riding experience and this riding philosophy. Another thing that I would highlight is that the Jawa is a good touring and highway machine. Because on highways where the traffic is less, there is less gear shifts so the riding experience improves, the roads are better than the city so the suspension becomes a lot more forgiving and accomodating and you are able to do speeds of 80-90 which is your limit for Indian highways. I have done a lot of highway rides on my Jawa and I think this is one thing that is not talked about a lot. Yes, there have been problems, but it isn't like everything has been bad. There has been some good stuff as well that has been completely masked by poor quality and service.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Tariq! We're hoping that CL and Jawa build on what they do well and eliminate/improve what they're weak at!
@vijaysinghr988 6 ай бұрын
Same for me, I liked RE classic 350 from the start but didn't buy it because of the lack of power, I knew I will grow out of it very soon, but when jawa showroom opened in my city I experienced ktm and royal Enfield at the same time and bought it and I'm not disappointed, yes flaws are there but they don't come in my way of enjoying the ride
@tariqomar0 6 ай бұрын
@@vijaysinghr988 Exactly. Internet can be deceiving as it likes to paint a black and white picture. But in real-life, things are nuanced. It is not like something is entirely great or entirely bad.
@nttha2183 6 ай бұрын
I own a bs6 Jawa Jawa...and seriously no complaints...amazing machine
@bhavsarp90 6 ай бұрын
This segment feels like an honest heart to heart discussion. It's not just about the spec sheet and that's what I love about such discussions. You guys convey what most should without sounding like a top gear show.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Bhavsar! We did plan MotorInc First as how Kartikeya and Shumi would discuss things after they returned from a media preview and often the discussion would diverge into context, history, technology, brand challenges and other aspects. It was how vibrant that conversation was that led to MotorInc First and we're glad you're enjoying it thoroughly!
@subraaaanshu 6 ай бұрын
It's come to the point that whenever there is a new launch of a bike, scooter or car, I don't watch any reviews no matter how early they are, I wait for the MotorInc First.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you so much Subbu! ♥️
@dr.ranadhishrajan2797 6 ай бұрын
Actually wanted to share this with you guys. I own a yezdi adventure. Its been with me for 2 years now and ive done around 38000 kms and it has been really amazing. For 1 st three months i had the DB killer but after that i removed it and since then it has been a whole different feeling. The bike became smooth and felt like it got faster. The bike became amazing after that. After 1st one month of riding i had front fork oil seal leak and the service guys took 3 months to replace those as the spare wasnt available. After about 6 months the bike had engine oil leakage and the head was completely opened and repaired. Since then I've never faced any problem with my bike. It runs amazingly well. It's fast but sometimes does feel slow at Highway speeds. Upto 6k rpm the bike is smooth but after that the engine clatter becomes very prominent. But I'm used to it now. Now the bike seems to be ageing and i feel the rear is becoming a bit unsettling and the rear of the bike is bottoming out but rear mono shocks aren't available. And its really scary. Ive had an amazing time on this bike. And i hope to munch more miles on this. Just hope that the spares will be available. Many people complain about the bikes but maybe my fate was good. And i got an amazing bike.
@sanjaysharma-jf8fv 6 ай бұрын
You are so charitable..that's all I can say. Cheers Bro
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Wow. That's a lot of trouble to go through Doc. Glad you enjoyed your riding despite!
@dr.ranadhishrajan2797 6 ай бұрын
@@motorinc yes I had to accept those problems and searching for a solution was my only option. But it was worth it❤️
@sanjaysharma-jf8fv 6 ай бұрын
@@dr.ranadhishrajan2797 reminds me of my 2016 Bullet500. 200km into my first Ladakh trip the exhaust fell off. Another 500 km later the carb started spewing fuel. All this on a brand new bike which had just gotten 1st service.. That was it..I had 8-9 yrs unperturbed riding on it since. Let go of it last week..to make place (in my head) for new Scrambler 400x
@dr.ranadhishrajan2797 6 ай бұрын
@@sanjaysharma-jf8fv 🎉 congrats for your new bike and many more kms of joy and adventure
@smnkumarpaul 6 ай бұрын
Classic Legends is a company run by businessmen to sell motorcycle for others to ride; Royal Enfield is a company run by motorcyclists to sell the motorcycle they want to ride.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Well put! We hope that changes, Smnkumarpaul
@baravinds 2 ай бұрын
Well, what about Honda😜
@rajeshdas-vt5hi 2 ай бұрын
Re overpriced... and I rode the 350 it's so smooth and the sound when u take out dB killer .. it's better than some re
@VemuriSudhi 6 ай бұрын
The whole section of "Where does Jawa go next?" is so insightful. The way TVS approaches segments, evolution of motorcycle and it all shows how deep this field is. Its Not only limited to reviewing a product infront of you but understanding the brand and the psychology and what not. Found it super insightful. Will definitely come back to listen to how various things were explained and simplified.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Sudhi!
@swapnilbarhate6229 6 ай бұрын
Good to see Jawa is working hard. People need options other than Royal Enfields (I never liked REs). Lets hope Yezdi also comes up. My father bought a Yezdi in the late 80s and I remember me, my brother, my mom and dad riding the yedzi together. It was a great bike. Never gave any problems whatsoever. Hopefully, exciting times ahead.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
💯
@PharaohVj 6 ай бұрын
Left everything and came here ❤ #MotorIncSunday🎉😊
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you!
@user-fl8ko1dr9f 6 ай бұрын
This is my first time watching shumi ever since preading his blogs for overdrive was the last time i remember and every story to hear from him was reliving! Glad to see him still connected to 390!
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to MotorInc! ♥️
@romaxoxoo 6 ай бұрын
Mahindra did themselves wrong, in my personal opinion they shouldn't have purchased 3 classic brands as they are only focusing one brand and then after words shifting to another. They could never beat Royal Enfield or norton in future.
@romaxoxoo 6 ай бұрын
And not to forget Indian and foreign brands alike want piece of cake in retro motorcycle market, I'm loving the competition by Triumph, mavrick, Ronin etc.
@omchaudary 6 ай бұрын
Women detected opinion rejected 😂
@LauraLasan69 6 ай бұрын
@omchaudary 😂 gona use this in future
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
@omchaudhary: Really? Casual misogyny is humour now?
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
We strongly urge you not to @lauralassan325
@dhanrajsethi9983 6 ай бұрын
That intro clip makes me happy ❤
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
♥️
@shreyjani668 6 ай бұрын
I know Jawa like I know my house. Not a boast but the town I've been born and brought up in, I used to see the old legends like Rajdut, Diesel Bullet and yes, older 42 Jawa 350 (possibly 1955 series). The owner of that Jawa was my friend's great grandfather. That motorcycle has passed down his family's generation and I was lucky enough to ride it once and I must say, riding THAT and the current Jawa during 2022 when I was looking to purchase my first 300CC+ bike, there's a big difference. I took test ride of all available Jawas and Royal Enfields since these motorcycles I've grown around. I thoroughly enjoyed the new 334CC engine but by large, the finish levels were all over the place, I even saw rusting happening near the header of new unit sitting in display in the dealership. I was very disappointed noticing the, "then" situation Jawa. Later I took test rides of a lot of different "types" of motorcycles and ended up with TVS Apache RR 310 (BTO) and I couldn't be more happy. Although looking at Jawa going in correct direction and hearing their customers and complaints and working on it makes me really happy. The current state and stance of Jawa is looking hopeful. Makes the kid inside me happy. I'm also excited to see BSA Goldstar come to India, "properly". Great podcast guys. Thank you so much for bringing this to us. ❤️❤️ Always love seeing Shumi and Karthikeyan discuss.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for that Shrey!
@vinodrussell7035 6 ай бұрын
"My first motorcycle was a 1977 D 250 Yezdi Classic. Even then, I had always longed to own a Yezdi Road King, which was only available for purchase in foreign currency. Even now, a 650 twin Yezdi Road King would be a most welcome addition!"
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
💯 We hope this happens for you Vinod!
@kaustubhkelkar6651 6 ай бұрын
Firstly for me, It's becoming more and more a tradition to have breakfast and morning tea while watching Motorinc (Or Jason Cammisa) review Videos. as for Jawa, it was always visually appealing for me, I have a soft corner for it & I pray that Final product will be as good as shumi says.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for including us in the start of your day Kaustubh!
@kaustubhkelkar6651 6 ай бұрын
@@CarComparos yeah that too
@akashmudgal3718 6 ай бұрын
I think this is the only channel for which whenever I see a notification, I immediately click on it. Love your videos!
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Akash!
@SamirMishra6174 6 ай бұрын
What Shumi says about a smaller business being obsessed with the market leader is so on point. I run an SME and it immediately struck a chord with me. It these things that Shuni says every now amd then, which is pure wisdom even outside the automotive context that makes this Channel great.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know Samir! Glad you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
@amangarge 6 ай бұрын
I recently bought a Yezdi Roadster. I simply fell in love during the test drive, and chose it over 350 Meteor. It nice to see Jawa/Yezdi being covered.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Congratulations Aman!
@Dheeeeraj 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy these conversations a lot! Two informed intelligent people talking bikes is peak entertainment to me.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Dheeeeraj!
@suhridsit4456 6 ай бұрын
Was eagerly waiting for this video.....Always loved both of you share your love and knowledge for motorcycles.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
@pquadd 6 ай бұрын
I think the 300-350cc class is getting crowded now, I am not sure how many more retro classic bikes we need, I feel like the manufacturers should move to a bit bigger capacity engine now, something which is relatively unexplored, maybe 500s?
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Yes! Chasing the market leader into their territory is not going to be production.
@anirudhhhh 6 ай бұрын
Love these long form first impressions. Feels more authentic. You guys go into a lot more detail on why you don't like something and also lay out your expectations well.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
@killingking1739 6 ай бұрын
I own the previous 300cc version of this classic. Love it, forgotten RE already. In terms of power, styling and handling its just amazing.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for letting us know KillingKing!
@darthpotato14 6 ай бұрын
Did I miss something? Where was Kartikeya's summary this time? Fun review as always. Cheers!
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Haha! Good catch! Glad you enjoyed the watch DarthPotato!
@ART-ii2vl 6 ай бұрын
Rather than catching a flight, Shumi opted to ride his Ducati to the event! His unwavering love for motorcycles shines through. ! While the legacy and heritage of Jawa evoke nostalgia among enthusiasts, it must navigate the modern landscape with innovation and adaptability. Only time will reveal whether Jawa can rev up its engines and accelerate toward success! 🏍️ 3:01
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Oh there's absolutely no doubt that left to his devices, Shumi's be motorcycle-borne for most things - he barely needs an excuse as it is 🤣 As Shumi said, we wish Classic Legends luck!
@aakashatteguppe7322 Ай бұрын
Here in Mysore Karnataka we love our yezdis and jawas. A lot of them were manufactured here. I see the new yezdis zipping around. I own a yezdi 1989 roadking one of the best bikes ive ridden. The machine js unique and handles like a sports bike itd amazing.
@Abhinashray 6 ай бұрын
Purest review on KZfaq without any nonsense... Simply best... ❤
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Abhinash!
@Ashes-9 6 ай бұрын
Amazing points and i strongly agree ! I owned a jawa jawa (jawa maroon) for a year and this is what i found out - Pros : 1. The bike had the classic good looks (twin exhausts, great proportions, generous use of chrome) 2. It was a wild machine. (A sports bike dressed as a vintage roadster, had a lot of fun with it. The power felt just right) 3. Was a capable machine ( had great cornering ability and suerb handling) 4. Was a conversation starter ( dunno if its a pro or con, but it sure did grab attention) 5. The golden speedo console reminded me of Classic watch dial which gave me a proper vintage vibe. I know it was not doing what it was supposed to but i just loved the aesthetics) Cons: 1. The customers were the ones who did the R&D. 2. It aimed directly at the King (re classic 350) but with a half baked product. 3. Unreliable. Though my bike never had any issues, the customers i met while my visits to the service center, had a lot of complaints and that did gave me a fair bit of anxiety. 4. Rust issues. (But Jawa always replaced them without hassles) 5. Awful ground clearance. Something always got scraped when ridden enthusiastically. But with everything said, i really had a good share of fun with this motorcycle and then finally replacing it with a GT650 (2022) This machine got me into motorcycling (the last motorcycle i had was a CBR 250r back in 2011-12) Yes i do have good memories with it but never missed it as such.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Ashes! That's a great summary and the fact that you had to move on after a year is exactly the sort of thing that worries us. What if you were done with it emotionally but didn't have the finances to move on... that situation is what we'd desperately like every motorcyclist out there to never have to face.
@sanjaysharma-jf8fv 6 ай бұрын
Apart from my 1st bike- a 1987 Yezdi 250 classic for Rs.17,200, i dont have anything to do with the brand. Yet im here paying attention to the intricacies of your review..tuning in to motoronic is a kind of lifestyle choice.. Btw..ive got my green Scrambler400x to complement the Intercptr650. Have let go of my 2016 bullet500 mostly on account of e20 fuel rollout in April 2025. What say Sirs?
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
First, congratulations Sanjay! Love that you love MotorInc!
@ontheroad8149 6 ай бұрын
Great podcast guys. Loved it that he rode down and back the 1900 km as a fellow crazy motorcyclist - in my circle they called my Bengaluru - Sirsi run foolish - a total of 870 km - wait for buses, bumpy ride, last mile connectivity...meh! Fueled up, checked the air pressures the previous night - Started at 6, was there by 1345 after 2 breaks, one small 5 min tea at the 100 km, next at Davanagere for the benne dose at 272 km. 27 hours later, left at 1630, and was back home by 2345, an extra 45 minutes thanks to the Nelamangala toll and subsequent mess - Shumi will know. Wasnt even tired or rattled up like I would in my Scorpio or a bus due to the BOF movement. Also please speak about similarly lesser known brands like Husqvarna, Hyosung - guys the wait is getting too much for ThisConnect Season 2!
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
You know what it feels like! Awesome OTR! HS401 MotorInc First coming soon! ThisConnect Season 02 is in the works - we want to raise the bar so it's taking a bit longer.
@harisharan3180 6 ай бұрын
How I high you wanna raise this bar exactly... 😂😂. No one is anywhere close to you guys at the moment. I guess that's the beauty of independent channel. Amazing content as always.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
As high as we can possible raise it. What else would be the point? 😊
@ontheroad8149 6 ай бұрын
@@motorincnice! Can’t wait. By the way is the music team in house?
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@borderlands6606 6 ай бұрын
I'm old enough to remember Jawa 2-strokes in the UK, and it's difficult to imagine two more different bikes than a Royal Enfield and a Jawa. Like MZ and other Warsaw Pact motorcycles, Jawas were built with the aim of getting the working population of a planned economy mobile, at the lowest possible price. They had their fans in western markets, but it was a minority taste and most people bought them because they were cheap and mostly cheerful. Jawa last made a 4-stroke in the 1920s, and the new models look nothing like it. BSA have a much larger back catalogue of names, styles and engine designs to plunder, most of which could find a new market if they get the details correct.
@Ashes-9 6 ай бұрын
Jawa jawa ! Wah wah wah wah ! 👏 👏 Awesome sunday it is ! ❤
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Ashes! 🤣
@fullstarlaming7937 6 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for this particular episode on Jawa 350. Thank you 🙏
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
So welcome! And thanks for your patience!
@twowheeledparadox 6 ай бұрын
Excellent points about the benchmarking. Yes, these companies need to do their own thing and create their own niche rather than trying to go after the segment leader's share of the market. The folks at Classic Legends have had trouble with execution of their ideas but it seems that they are trying to clean things up. I actually prefer unusual ignition switch locations. I loved that the ignition switch of our '79 Bullet 350 was installed in the right side tool box and an additional battery cut-off switch under the fuel tank. We switched to a conventionally located ignition switch when we converted the bike from 6 volts to 12 volts. The steering lock is still a padlock and I wouldn't change that. I wouldn't mind having that type of lock on my Interceptor. All in all, a great video as usual.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thanks TWP!
@lordsalvatore3846 3 ай бұрын
Recently visited its plant, what a feeling of watching freshly made brand new machines
@motorinc 3 ай бұрын
♥️
@uvaraj4 6 ай бұрын
Great guys and Great reviews. Soothing to ears. Great knowledge transfer
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Glad we can help! Thanks Uvaraj!
@Dhruv-_-0. 6 ай бұрын
I was almost certain that this was gonna be a Husqvarna Sunday😅
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Dropping soon Dhruv!
@ub678 6 ай бұрын
Would absolutely love a video series of Shumi and Karthikeya riding together and having discussions about the bike they're riding. 😊
@abhishekshivakumar4790 6 ай бұрын
As a ex-jawa owner I had made all customization that they bought in this new jawa 350. My bike had raised front shocks, big tires and the engine was same 300cc. So, on my experiment the new bike is redesigned 😂and with the bigger engine. Hope the new chrome and metal parts are of good quality. Also the fiber side pannels were so thin, I had crack on both sides, hope they have improved the quality of same this time.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Abhishek! We hope so too!
@kratos71 6 ай бұрын
Please do a review for huskies... Personally I don't like design, that's why I purchased 23 vitpilen just before discontinuing. .. would love to hear your thoughts.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Husqvarna MotorInc First drops soon Kratos!
@smax13 6 ай бұрын
@MotorInc Which motorcycle in india has the best suspension wrt ride quality for Bangalore city roads? I am bike form factor agnostic. Budget is anything below 7 lacs.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Probably the Himalayan. Nothing else we've tested has that level of absorption. Second choices would be 400X/Speed 400/Duke 390 (Comfort settings). A great outside option could be Classic 350, does better than you expect but feels VERY different from the others we've listed. Among the smaller bikes, the N250 and N150 also have excellent suspension.
@karun_vv7190 6 ай бұрын
I've never ridden java, this podcast really helps me and give me an idea about the brand or what they are trying to achieve in the future.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Glad we can help, Karun!
@user-nd9rb9du4i 6 ай бұрын
The beginning tune brings smile everytime and the rest i had to find in the video 😁😁
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
🤜🏽🤛🏽
@aiyohvayye 6 ай бұрын
Here's what I've inferred from this spectacular review: 1. Have a personality. Always try to be yourself. 2. Imitation will always be the greatest form of flattery. 3. No marketing whatsoever can save you if your product is subpar. 4. A lot of the reviews out there are paid. And you should definitely get a test ride before buying a motorcycle. 5. If you're lucky enough to have an original Jawa at home, cherish it, love it and respect it. That's not coming back soon.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
2a: flattery won't get you anywhere as quickly as 1 will. 4a: also true if the review is independent and unpromoted like ours Thanks Tom!
@diddlysquidly_4814 6 ай бұрын
And for the N'th time, really love the hard work of the entire team to create every video. Keep going!!
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!
@NikhilPasricha 6 ай бұрын
I used to drive my father's 1964 Jawa 250 during my college days in late 90s. Ah... so many fond memories of it. We had sold it off & now I so want to ride it again!! 🥲
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
We hope you get a taste of it again, Nikhil!
@paroxymal7688 6 ай бұрын
7:38 finally what we were waiting for 😂
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
🤣
@tmactoo6582 6 ай бұрын
A 42 owner here, In my opinion jawa should try making a lighter retro motorcycle, like the brand used to make in the 70s and 80s, and that's what set them apart from Enfields. A 15 bhp, 175 cc, 4 stroke single, with affordable pricing and heavy retro chrome finish will sell like pancakes, then only it can fit into the "jawa niche".
@charishraju 6 ай бұрын
Last year the flagship Jawa/Yezdi dealership @ Raniganj in Secunderabad shifted over to Royal Enfield….the reason the dealership told was that the volumes were just not coming to justify the investment he did on the infrastructure
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Ouch. Thanks for letting us know Harish!
@shreyashkolhe7887 6 ай бұрын
Guilty to say but your videos are my go to when I struggle to fall asleep… both of you talk in such calm and soothing tone😅😅😅
@abhi_sh3_k 6 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure watching these 😆 I would really love a crossover between MotorInc and Fortnine.. it'll be absolutely legendary
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Abhishek!
@sagayachristuraj6588 3 ай бұрын
That, was one of the most intense conversation!
@dfarmer4201 5 ай бұрын
The exhaust of the original Jawas was unique and lent a distinct personality to the bike. Maybe is why the current mnfrs took a shot at the exhaust noise.
@10shakil 5 ай бұрын
19.20 goosebumps. Saint Shumi talking about my homeland. Thank you for coming.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for having us over, Shakil!
@sathyavrath 6 ай бұрын
Having followed the automotive journalistic scene for a while, the honest and open way in which the bike and the brand have been reviewed is really welcome. Most of the big journalist houses tend to be not this honest about the pitfalls of the machine or the brand. (Refer to the original review videos from 2018 and you'll be hard pressed to find such honest feedback). Having owned a 2019 Jawa, I could really relate to what was said about where classic legends went wrong. I hope they really improve their game. Keep up the good work Shumi!
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Sathyavrath!
@vincibenlot9375 6 ай бұрын
Jawa 350 Ground clearance increased, but center stand removed, Nitrox shock absorbers also removed, then how can it manage on bumpy roads or in long ride ? after sale's service + spare parts at town level are missing, these three issues need to be resolved on urgent basis. speedometer is also not visible properly, gear shift indicator is missing, look those issues.
@jnjjjb609 4 ай бұрын
Hi amazing review kudos to the team, Could yall do the triumph rocket 3 and a few other high end bikes i'd love to know about those experiences from motor inc.
@johngault-9597 4 ай бұрын
I'm an old timer so if you liked the original Jawa, try getting your hands on a Yezdi 250 or Roadking...that nostalgia will kick in even if you've never been on Yezdi...
@TakNuke 6 ай бұрын
Their is a fine line between loud and thump.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@rapthadusomesh42 2 ай бұрын
Please do an initial impression video on jawa bobber 42 in this season sir because I want to get one it will be very helpful in choosing one great machine
@rajeevr3635 6 ай бұрын
I know.. it not the format your videos are in. But a glimse of the machine here and there in a motion would give us a an awesome experience. I like the one here in the video when you mention exhaust note.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Given how tight the schedules for media previews are, Rajeev, this is very difficult. And unless it meets our quality standards, we don't believe it's the right thing to bring to the channel. We'll do less if we must, but we won't give up quality in the process.
@veer6388 5 ай бұрын
There isn’t a better person to learn about motorcycles, the science behind it, the perspective behind it, than Shumi himself. The OG. Period.
@ncpraneeth2790 6 ай бұрын
This is the most serious Motorinc First episodes 😂😂. Jokes aside, I would have never imagined that I would sit back and watch people just talk about automobiles without actually having the vehicle to show its features, sound etc. Absolutely love these videos.
@mukeshpal4659 6 ай бұрын
I never used to watch bike reviews or bike videos for that matter, but ever since i discovered these discussions, it makes me watch more and more videos of Motorinc, i love the way these people talk about things, amazing, Kudos to you sirs.
@_Adv8_ 6 ай бұрын
Finally Jawas are getting talked about. Happy to see you guys say it's a pleasant surprise rather than "well it's not a worthwhile change anymore, this late into the game". It is also nice to see the brand finally owning up to their mistakes and trying to fix it with these service camps and all. I really agree with the opinion that they should separate themselves from RE and follow their own idea of motorcycling, or else I think they might end up where Honda has with their 350s. The Jawa tradition should not hold back their engineering and usability (like the key and steering lock thing). I think as long as the bikes work as intended and have a unique feel to them, they have a good future.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Agreed! Thanks Adv8!
@so4400 5 ай бұрын
Here i am watching a review about a motorcycle that will not come to my country. Really speaks about the two presenters, the format and everything else about this channel.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
This is such an amazing thing to read! Thank you @so4400! Where are you?
@so4400 5 ай бұрын
@@motorinc Malaysia
@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 5 ай бұрын
Fully endorse your views. Having grown up with Jawas/Yezdi's of 80's I could diffrentiate the flaws of these new Jawas and never recommended to anyone. Hopefully I see promises in these new models. Many many thanks for your insights ❤
@GiancarloBenzina 6 ай бұрын
I love your analytical approach that nobody else delivers. I prefer it over the biggest western journalistic reviews and the smaller ones anyway. But that Jawa. Clearly it‘s a sheit bike, still, a much bettered one - maybe. Why do they try to maintain what globally people expect from Indian quality? The lazy execution and reliability, where Enfield invested a lot to successfully overcome the most of it. That is the way to succeed, not to remain stuck in old ways of messing up. There‘s just too much great chinese competition around to be so foolish.
@autofocus9783 5 ай бұрын
Such a pleasure to listen to Shumi, not many know motorcycles like him.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
♥️
@scienceByV 6 ай бұрын
The part I loved most about JAWA 350 is that it is the singlemost bike in their segment. No confusion, nothing. All classic 350 fans should rather buy a Jawa 350. It is more classic than classic. It's history.
@atultambatkar6321 6 ай бұрын
The bike looks amazing and great product by Jawa. I own a jawa 42 which has great power and no problems.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know!
@HunterVlog350cc 6 ай бұрын
the original jawa and yezdis from my childhood had crazy 2 strokes sound and thump, since you have 4 strokes now they tried to give you the same feel by removing db killers but yes those are very loud as i heard on few free flow jawas. A very good study of market/ history-/segment and shortcomings 😊f earlier model gives this video a fresh and thorough analysis, jargons like ‘me too’ product is also very apt , few more points - naming like jawa350 and cb350 is frontal attack on competitor so that it stays in consumer minds that other 350 also are options apart from classic 350. now the very essence of RE is the thump that exists to this day in j series , you can feel the slight knock knock underneath while at idle on a signal that even honda cannot replicate thanks to it’ vibe free super smooth blah blah refinement aka killjoy’. also this is cult brand segwmnt where ppl like to get associated with the brand like RE jawa yamaha etcso brand characteristics play a very imp role😊😊
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective as usual HB!
@Abhibee4018 6 ай бұрын
Now I am tempted to buy one❤
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Get a test ride!
@ArunSapaare 6 ай бұрын
I just want to add this, you guys are the benchmark for a lot of other media/youtubers coz, just to get views, without even riding/driving the vehicle, they call it as a review where not much review happens coz they haven't yet had experience with the vehicle to review it. Our two/four wheeler community needs to change & I can confidently say that you guys are that wave that'll bring about the change. Love you guys from Bengaluru!!❤
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Arun! Glad we can help!
@koushikrajendran7230 6 ай бұрын
I have a rr310 and rx100 but at this point im just bingeing every motor inc video as it pops up in my notification everytime regardless of the topic 😅
@AugustJames-jp1ew 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos. I have watched all of them. At the end of the motoring first you always say "tell you in full review when we get them in the office" but haven't seen any review video. Would love to see them
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
It's been a busy couple of months, August. They're all in the works right now!
@mistermandeep4786 6 ай бұрын
Shumi you are a national treasure!!! Concise and very well articulated, valid points with benchmarking issue that has stopped the natural progression of the industry.
@motorinc 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Mandeep!
@AmanSharma-sn8js 6 ай бұрын
Hey guys - a suggestion - can we include the pillion experience in this conversation too? Like Shumi can let someone else ride for a few kms and test the comfort himself? I just rode a friend's Hunter, the bike is decent - but sitting at the rear seat for only 20 mins was such a nightmare, it became a dealbreaker instantly.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Not possible Aman. Remember that these are first impressions. The schedule isn't in our control and we attempt to spend this time riding as far as possible, usually a full tank of petrol on most of these machines or as near as we can manage. When we test the machine properly for View, for example, we'll have the pillion angle covered. As to the Hunter - remember our story on it started at "do not buy one"
@AmanSharma-sn8js 6 ай бұрын
@@motorinc understood, I will be waiting for the full reviews then haha - also, yes I do remember going ROFL on Hunter & Ronin view when it started with "dont buy either" lol. That - and Kartikeya's "Dreams" vids made me a Motorinc fan :)
@varunwadekar7882 6 ай бұрын
Mahindra is a well established brand , and they already had a failed run in two wheeler market before. I will blame the management people as this should have been the the actual introductory product. Now there are so many products and non of them are successful. All old jawa bikes have paint bubbles , alignment issues, rust n what not 🚫
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Mahindra's attempts at two-wheelers haven't gone well so far at all!
@HumourusLAV 6 ай бұрын
We need Battle of the Giants episode, Activa vs Jupiter!! Please make it happen guys! My friend just booked a 2 wheeler and we know how tough it was to decide between these 2!
@tanmay8531 6 ай бұрын
felt like the conservation (video) was about the brand, its placement and general understanding of the retro classics section of biking, rather than "Jawa 350" itself ...
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Yup. And we did point out at the start that the Jawa 350 forces you to think of the big picture too!
@soundharaashu3613 Ай бұрын
Please have video about perak or jawa 42 bobber .only bobber in india so would be helpful to know more about it as it fixed several issues.
@BrawlerDoge 6 ай бұрын
Finally video on jawa🎉🎉🎉
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
🤜🏽🤛🏽
@shiv7154 Ай бұрын
Maybe if put back the DB Killers, the entire compression will be utilised and we may have a vibration free bike. Right now the silencer must be behaving like a free flow exhaust. I have experienced this difference in my old Yezdi Roadking, with the muffler and without the mufflers.
@neilchakr 6 ай бұрын
this sounds like a case study discussion from an mba classroom! really enjoying First
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Neil!
@bigfatbub 6 ай бұрын
Content has been so consistent lately that ive randomly been screaming WE ARE THE CHAMPIOOONNN and beatboxing at some point on a day 😅 As always.. its always a treat when you guys upload 💙
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks BigFatBub! It's awesome to have you in the MotorInc Family!
@Varun_Vidyalink 6 ай бұрын
Kartikey, Ahmedabad is way ahead in infrastructure and facilities compared to many metro cities as well. Please visit our city Ahmedabad, you would love the roads compared to Pune and Mumbai
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the invite Varun!
@subraaaanshu 6 ай бұрын
A big problem with Jawa, and I think Classic Legends as a whole, is their customer service. It has gotten better in the past few years, but it is still not anywhere near where other brands like RE, Bajaj or TVS offer. I was in the market for a bike this past November, and was considering the 42. My grandfather owned both, a Jawa and a Yezdi, and my mother used to borrow them to ride to college, so I thought it'd be a nice thing to have a Jawa again in the family but ended up not buying it because of the fact that the multiple dealers I visited, none were ready to offer me a test ride.
@motorinc 6 ай бұрын
Oh no! That’s terrible! We hope they’re better at this now Subraanshu!
@daradileepkumar1772 Ай бұрын
Wow🎉Nice Explains
@rinoldaiman6441 5 ай бұрын
Amazig video. But I have a request please make a video on Jawa 42 bobber. Its an humble request
@iKanishkz 6 ай бұрын
Two vehicles are very close to my heart and are absolutely absolutely underrated. I would love to see good quality review of both of them on this channel. So please make a video on The Tata Hexa and The Mahindra Mojo.
@victorconceicao7138 6 ай бұрын
14:27 is my favourite part hands down, apologies to let my intrusive thoughts win😂
@rockybox09 6 ай бұрын
Nice conversation finally from your two . As a jawa jawa owner am still using it for past 3 yrs now still going good had some issues with rusting and tensonor issue on my old jawa . But here am not like the way they reduce the power ratio on jawa 350 . Original jawa is ment to be a racing motorcycle i think so thats their DNA. Now its getting peal off from jawa . Hope the quality issues get improved now . Rest am happy with my jawa jawa .😎
@aDi7997 6 ай бұрын
They really should hire you as an adviser, quite detailed and informative analysis as always. 👍🙂
@742gopal 6 ай бұрын
I have also been waiting for TVS to announce an ADV.
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