That's what we like to hear, Stephen!

@@hyundai is the stop sale over on these? any fix for the transmission?

What is your gas mileage like when you drive normal?

True!!! Motorweek please bring back the old theme music!

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True, I can get 30-35 mpg driving like grandma

I usually average 33 mpg on my mostly highway commute if I keep it in eco.

Try boostane.

VP octane booster I have used it wait till your low on gas toss in the can fill up your good to go but I don't notice much of an increase. They claim it goes up 7 points well if your using 91 that means it goes up to 98 octane for 20 bucks a can not sure about that.

@@cindysue5474 I actually use VP most often - Lucas sometimes. there's a VP station that has race gas, and I'm experimenting to see cost/benefit of 2-3gallons of race gas with 91 vs boosters+91 (California)

just use Top Tier gas! if you want more, use Xcaps....search for the homework guy on here.

I won’t despute the facts of the DCT, Manual is still more enjoyable personally. I’m looking at one of these and would snag the manual if it was offered, even if “slower”

But then it would have been more expensive..

2023 Kona N owner here - not only heavier and more expensive, but less engaging, I think. The eLSD and steering work so well together that the tiny bit of transient torque steer actually makes the car even more fun to drive. It never fails to make me smile.😁

u dont need it just feather the throttle and its fine--own one and own a ZL1

One guy got the Kona to do 5.1 0/60 in aus.

@@cindysue5474 Wowzers 🙆🏾‍♂️ That's faster than my Audi TT🫤😐

05 Forester XT manual was around the same 0-60 and it had AWD and more room.

@@meh-87 I miss driving manual.. That vehicle is classic!

Yeah, but the gas mileage is pathetic!! Had a '99 Buick LeSabre 3.8 v6 that got 30 on the highway. My 2016 turbo 4 VW beetle is pretty quick, about 6 seconds to 60, and gets 35 to 40 on the highway

True and motorweek is generally very conservative on there 0-60 and quarter mile times..they don’t lie .car and driver always seems to be alittle overboard . the little thing is fast..

Higher than the new GTI by 3! Exceptional!

I have this car and i did 13.4 at 106mph, so they are in the ballpark. Btw the last time i went to the track, no FWD was faster then me. I love this lil thing!

Since 1981...literally longer than I've been alive and he's STILL rockin! What a legend.

Tho they should prepare for the inevitable task to replace him

@@dchegu Or end the show. They can start a new one but rest the motorweek name with him.

Remember when he had a southern accent?

He always sounds like a game show host.

Was there a dealer markup?

@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate No I got mine for a huge discount. I got it out the door MSRP. They didn't want it.

Yes except for our trannys may need replacing Elantra N also. That means there will be a long line waiting for the trannys and a tech to replace them.

@@lifeofmike556 How is MSRP a huge discount ?

@@anthonyforan1516 Based on your question I assume you know nothing about buying cars in 2022 so I'll explain... Most dealerships have rare limited quantity cars like these listed at a very inflated price. We're talking $8k-15k over MSRP. Then you have to add taxes 7% of the purchase price, title, document fees and warranties. So if you buy a car at MSRP with the "market adjustment" you're paying over $40,000 out the door. Some people are paying $50,000 for rare versions of the Elantra and Kona. So the fact I walked out the door spending exactly MSRP and not a dime over is unheard of. Im probably one of very few people who got a deal of a lifetime. I work with someone who's the GM of a Hyundai dealership we did the deal in his office. I skipped the whole showroom ordeal. Plus money is power... If you go to a dealership with confidence through the roof and high spending power they'll do anything for you. Gotta know how to navigate

I trapped a 112 in my stinger and got a 12.7--I have this now but the track near me closed buts it can hit a 13 flat in cool weather and if you can get it off the line.BTW when I look around in trafffic it can beat 95% of the car out there.

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My kid named mine "Star Dash" ...meh, could be worse

You already know!

@@hyundai facts. Been thinking about getting one

Its fast enough Its a quick Suv

I agree a 107 trap speed is definitely a low 13 second trap speed!

@@nstylemotorsportsracing1471 I own one and with cool weather and a warm track and slightly bigger tires I belive it could hit high 4s. My stinger ran a 12.7 in the quarter and the trap speed was 110--so its not that far off and yes the biggest thing is it trying to launch with just FWD--but guess what all these RWD muscle cars--mustangs and camaros and hellcats--they also do not do there fastest times that magazines quote cause they definetly can not get the power down.Go look at the camaros last time in MW--asterisk near it--"the run is the best out of multiple runs as they dog the crap out of the car to get the time"

One guy got his to 13.1 in the quarter mile another mid 12s with a tune and seats removed.

@@cindysue5474 yup I saw that however you are always going to have these keyboard warriors who refuse to acknowledge Hyundai just because of history. The saddest thing is most of the people who talk bad about Hyundai’s don’t even own a car to begin with 😂

Inflation

Ouch--an AUDI A# with similiar equipment is 47k and has less then half the warranty and after 2 years the AUDI is worth about half what it reatails for.

Make more money. You can’t just have shit for free 😂

@@phillipvelednitskiy6881 The Kona N also has no governor--not many cars can hit 155 to low 160 MPH (that are 45k or under)on the top end--in fact most M cars and AMG cars in the US are governed to 155--so this 35k Kona will reel in someones 100k AMG.I already hit 157 on mine--temp was cool and road was flat and I had to let off--it probably had another 3 to 5 mph left if I could have stayed on it.They are asking 43k for a Toyota 86 and the kona would trounce it ----AMG 35 which has similiar performance are 55k to 60k in my area.

How about the Corolla GR, Honda Type R, Golf R etc that have similar power and “luxury” but start at like $43000+?

I seen that and I thought to myself 'wow does that look very cheap. Like Chinese cheap.' that whole interior is a low dip in quality I didn't expect from Hyundai. Especially considering this is $10k more over the base model. What a shame.

Agreed.

@@Lrules364 The money went into the performance of the car, not an upgraded interior. That said, the steering wheel and shifter are a huge step up over the base model.

You can change drive modes with the N buttons on the steering wheel.

Source?

nonsense! i have 20 years if experience with Hyundais. Never had any problems.

@@jrs9264 Not nonsense. Your post is nonsense.

I think that’s just in the republic of California

Owners are having issues with running their mouths and believing that the leos are their friends and have their best interest at heart. All he had to say when he was pulled over and asked about track mode is no, when he restarted the car it would have been in normal mode and the pops and bangs would have been off. He got what he deserved for talking too much.

nah, it's with 1 person in the lovely state of Cali

No issues

@@layne4376 from my understanding its not a failure of the transmission, but more of an issue with the programming of the limp mode for the transmission that can be fixed without the need for a new transmission. It is a rare issue as well, with only 229 reported incidents from what I have researched.

35k these days is like 24k of like Ng ago

Drove the DCT Kona turbo a couple years ago and that transmission is trash. I'd take a CVT over a transmission that doesn't engage for .5 seconds when you try to accelerate.

@@meh-87 Completely different transmission. Watch other reviews. People love the DCT in this car (and other N models).

DCT is fantastic! No need AWD

@@pupete01 Hyundai just put out a recall on their DCT blowing up like crazy.

The DSG transmission is great. The eLSD works well. Doesn't need AWD. AWD would make it heavier and slower.

@@stephencharles6615 DCT is a disaster already. Hyundai is having to recall them and also have a stop sell order on them because of the issues. In a car like this nothing better then an old school manual. Might not be as fast but wayyy!!!!! more fun.

The N cars were built by Albert biermann who built every BMW M car since the E30. He set these cars up as FWD from the start and tested exclusively on the Nurburgring. They perform so well you do not miss awd at all.

I've owned mine about 8months now no complaints here atm.

it gets softer after miles, broken in. plus, all season tires helps. like switching from whole milk to skim, your mind and body also adapts....🤔👍🤗

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I've seen it on KZfaq also,. Typical Hyndai.,

Bullbleep! Had them for 20 years, and never denied a claim. They are far more reliable then the big 3 junk used to buy.

If it had 3 peddles, I would seriously consider this car

Near impossible to find a fast SUV with a manual

@@MrMegatron85 true. I looked for an affordable sporty small suv and wound up settling for a gently used Mini Cooper S Countryman with a manual. But Mini discontinued the manual in nearly everything save the Cooper 3 and 5 door hatchbacks after the 2019 model year.

no real driver buys a hyundai lol

@@pppcorn I dunno man that n vision 74 looks perfection

You don't want this car in AWD and you can tow up to I believe 2800lbs with it

@@lifeofmike556 why no awd? The regular kona, and the Kona electric, may have towing capacities like that. The Kona N does not have even have tow hitch options. If you find a source which shows something different for the N, please share the link.

if you want AWD and tow, stick to the 1.6L turbo kona. i have both, and N is better if you want most power, and without mpg penalty.

Hmm such a shame. Hyundai N Vision might change your mind on that. That car even if it’s made by yugo I would buy it 🤣

@@brooKlynKiteflyer Sadly, US laws and regulations probably won't allow for that dreamboat to exist in the states.

It's an electronic LSD, yes.

that is a fast trap for 13.7. Typical trap would be 102 or so. Probably once it gets going about mid track is where you feel it.

You expected a $20k family Sedan to have the same quality DCT as a $100k sports car? The problem isn’t the DCT it’s you…

@@foxtrot685 no but maybe not the sloppy shifting, indecision in downshifting, holding of revs for no reason. Have u driven the optima vs a old style trans

2016 is well before Hyundai/Kia was doing N. I bet the N ones are much better.

@@BWTECH0521 for the money they are charging, they better

They are not failing! In fact there are plenty that aren’t affected at all. Not to mention there actually fixing the problem. And the optima has never had a DCT. It does indeed have a slush box but the DCT I N THE N is fantastic!

Why?

@@pupete01 Would be more practical in bad weather and quicker off the the line. If you want to smoke the tires get an Elantra or Veloster. Also you could add torque vectoring for drift mode

@@pupete01 I'm sure it's fun though. After you've driven a few high hp fwd cars. You realize that there are limits to usable power.

if you look at gas consuption when buying a car like that, get the base trim because you cant afford more if so

I test drove 3 GTIs and went with the Kona N. Significantly more fun to drive and more character. That and if you want the same features in the GTI you need to bump up to the Autobahn edition which costs another 5k.

People's Socialist Welfare Republic of Kalifornia makes North Korea look like a paradise by comparison.....🤔😳🙆😤🤡💩

i have one and it is not that much of a deal. its not like you would need to launch the thing at every corners, and it still smokes a golf R on a pull, wich is kinda funny

Most performance orientated cars are. No one is buying this for good MPG.

@@SectionF4 it ruins the world for everyone

Yeah if you're in the market for one of these, gas mileage is of no concern.

@@vuckyabx exactly people come on these hyundai forums just to bash and know nothing about the brand.

Don't worry, Steve. We have one of those too 😎

no, that's Honda....fugly, overrated, and overpriced.

I only agree with the SUV part, but this isn't even an SUV, it's a hot hatch basically. Also, exotic cars are all Automatic (automated manuals, but still most are auto-shifting). You're saying FWD civic type R is not a performance car?

No all the people think like you. I love mine.

@@pupete01 I love mine as well. Can’t wait to get past the 600 mile mark so I can open it up.

LOL, what? You know that all the most desirable sports cars come with a dual clutch (or even single clutch auto), right?

@@matthewtmcdonough after you do, get an oil and filter change. cheap insurance.👍

I've had two Hyundais, and never had an issue. 🤷

never had an issue in 20 years, so i call bullbleep!

so why are u here? just wondering.

I do

I'm about to buy one, so there's that.