literally says a meme out loud without actually meme-ing. amazing.

Thank you :)

Ur the man Phil

@@SkillsWithPhil you should go check out the new six flags on perry hill vt, it is super fun

and I can't believe Phil doesn't pay for it. Their database helps improve the MTB experience so much. we should all be paying.

@@sweatdreamsdjs31 The database that was created by the community in the first place? But that's not even the big problem, it's the payment modell...

@@sweatdreamsdjs31 do you want to pay to leave your house? thatll be next with that view.

@@sweatdreamsdjs31 we created trailforks, we shouldn’t be paying. Atleast part of it is free

@@sweatdreamsdjs31 There's a reasonable argument that user created data is what they built the platform on. It might have been nice to offer a free year or two to people who contributed to a certain extent. Newcomers to the app, sure, pay to play. I contributed over the years, and pay, and am basically fine with it. But I understand the argument and sentiment.

Welcome.

This would be great for my son's and getting outside and away from screens!

The ride noco trails are amazing.

I agree, surprised he hasnt been there. Thing about those trails though is if you dont shuttle up your only doing one run all day.

Glad you enjoyed it :)

Most my rides are pretty tame, and thats what these videos are here to showcase.

Oh and thanks for inspiring bikes with me today🙂

I've lived not terribly far from there growing up, and the last time I rode there I didn't particularly love it.

@@SkillsWithPhil any reason why?

I got a trip to urgent care and 3 inside + 5 outside stitches thanks to some leaves a couple years ago. Leaves are no fun at all.

They made it pay to view once the surge of new mountain bikers using the service meant they had to upgrade their servers and it started costing them lots of money. You are implying that they don’t provide a service for which they should be compensated for developing the program and hosting all the data. Trailforks is a better user experience than MTB project. It’s getting better all the time. That takes money.

@@joeykjeldsen6591 .... Obviously you're entitled to your opinion. I'm crystal clear on the situation. They grew, and needed to up their infrastructure. And...their growth was in large part due to user input and the improved utility it provided. So....as they gained subscribers, and users contributed more to them than the other apps, it just built up a larger number of people to bill, for the same service they got previously for free. What you're saying is the equivalent of you spending hours on end erecting a beautiful piece of art in your town square that brings in tourism dollars to the city. You feel good about it, because you benefit from that influx of tax dollars and revenue that the city gains. You donated your time and materials, and made a contribution to the betterment of the city. Then the following year, the city starts charging for people to view the art, and you don't get a penny of it. Just curious, how many hours did you put into providing content for TrailForks? I understand what you're saying, and if TF just one day decided that they were going to charge for THEIR service, and THEIR content that THEY developed, then that's fine. But to utilize user content that was provided PRIOR to it being a paid service, is something I vehemently disagree with. Many others and I went into it feeling like we were contributing content for visitors coming to our area, in exchange for us utilizing their content when we traveled to other areas. So yeah, I'm a little bitter. But it's cool if you want to pay them...your prerogative, obviously. And your explanation isn't going to influence me into paying, anymore than mine would influence you not to pay. I have a feeling we're coming from different places on this.

I just assumed other features would be part of the "pro" subscription (recording rides, etc) I didn't expect them to put the core functionality of the app behind a paywall. This was the first time i had used it since. 3 dollars a month isn't that unreasonable, but with almost everything becoming subscription services, the costs add up quickly and gets a bit tiresome. I don't fault them for doing this, it's a business model that works obviously and plenty of folks are happy to pay for the services.

@@SkillsWithPhil So do you already use pro? Cause the thing that you were seeing is like a mandatory free trial. It goes away in like 7 days or something. I don't know about any of the other features like recording a ride because I never use them but if you do and they changed it so that you have to pay for it now that's kind of annoying. I use trail forks too and it's back to normal for me.

@@SkillsWithPhil It would be interesting to get an update to confirm or not what David is saying in these comments. Are there different levels of paid TF accounts? That would be news to me because I've assumed that there's only one payment plan. I've felt it's worth it because of the convenience of the service they provide, even with the controversy of the trail information being crowd sourced. The work to create code throughout the information revolution has consistently been co-opted by business models, ie, Microsoft, etc. In this case, I hope it's worth it for the carrying costs of the project. Ride happy Phil, love your work. That last dh trail looked especially fun.

They were recently leaf blown, but the leaves fall quickly this time of year.

@@SkillsWithPhil hopefully not too quickly, as the flatlanders want to come up and spend their money leaf peeping..👍

I saw guys leaf blowing it this past Friday

We leave blow them regularly until snow falls.

@@mtbrider2006 Thanks

Ha, yeah i meant hardstyle, hardline is a tad bigger. 😂

@@SkillsWithPhil I was just jokeing Phill, Vermonit's looks beautifull both nature and trailwise.. But you had set up the words how you sometimes say "but to chick" to make a line about it.. 😂

Because people different priorities. I have zero interest in having a bike computer on my bike.

Finally got around to it. bit.ly/3DJotRl

Not in this video.

I tried, but amazon wasn't letting me search for anything for some reason and since i was in a rush to get out the door i gave up.

@@SkillsWithPhil no worries, just keep the awesome content flowing and we'll call it even ;)

KZfaq is asking me if i want "1st" translated into English 😂