Move The Left Shoulder Down And Around To Rotate On Plane

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How the left shoulder moves in the golf swing, or at least how it moves on camera, can be a big clue as to what is happening.
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In this video, you will learn about how the movement is not exclusive to just the shoulder and upper body, but also what is going on in the lower body (specifically the left hip). This is a great watch for you sliders and early extenders out there! We hope you enjoy!
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@MiloLinesGolf Жыл бұрын

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@lesliewoodcock5880 3 жыл бұрын

Probably the most important golf video ever posted.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Leslie!

@jakeallen476 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree. I used to think side bend in transition never worked. Lead down and around does for me though.

@miguelquintana8076 11 ай бұрын

I was amazed at how well crouching/sitting in the downswing helps swing consistency.

@paulkoppenheffer5323 3 жыл бұрын

left shoulder and hip down and around is the most effective swing thought for me. That's when I strike the ball my best. When I get away front that swing key, I slide like I'm trying to stretch a single into a double. Thanks for all the great content.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Paul!

@ConstantineAndreas Ай бұрын

I'm enjoying the channel. Thanks so much for all the info. On a lighter note, we had two fat tuxedo cats growing up (brothers) named Milo and Henry, where Milo was the leader, and I sent these videos to my family and we are all getting a kick out of your names. It's bringing back a lot of fond memories of those times many years ago. But the content of the instruction is great too, and really, thank you for that. This is exactly what I'm working on right now. Lower body leads as chest lowers to slow the rate of the lead shoulder rising.

@MiloLinesGolf Ай бұрын

That's hysterical. Thanks so much for following along!

@adamhazelwood5282 3 жыл бұрын

I intend to watch this video five times a day, every day, for the rest of my life .

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Love it Adam lol

@Robin-Cj 2 жыл бұрын

This comment alone is dedication to the game we all love

@bobwayne5965 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best previous videos that Milo had, and I don't remember which one it was, but I know Milo talked about a squat move on the downswing. I was sooooo afraid to do it, I fought it for such a long time, since doing it, my contact, ball flight and shots have been the best EVER. Please give it a try and by doing the squat move, that also helps with keeping the shoulder down as well. Milo and Henry, a great combo threat to improve your golf game, Thanks so much.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words Bob!

@johnnewbrough18 2 жыл бұрын

thanks Milo, love this and I find it works great!!

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Thanks for watching John!

@wranglerpc 2 жыл бұрын

Fundamentally spot-on, but as in MOST if not ALL instructional videos, the WHEN part is omitted. 'Transition' is mentioned, but that's too vague. Start the lowering spiral of the left shoulder at the same time your weight moves from your right heel to your left toe box (assuming you have the proper foot trace) and before the right wrist adds flex (lag) at the top. The timing of this is EVERYTHING.

@gustavocarulli5246 3 жыл бұрын

Excelente..!!!!..el mejor video sobre downswing para aficionados, publicado en KZfaq...aclara perfectamente como volver en el swing...felicitaciones...!!!!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Gracias por las palabras amables!

@iDjEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! This is exactly what I needed!

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@philipminn1885 2 жыл бұрын

The best and brilliant lead shoulder transition,also professional explanation,thanks so much,good luck .

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@AA-fx6ku 2 жыл бұрын

A very good bit of instruction especially for me; thanks.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Hope it helps!

@willpollard4983 3 жыл бұрын

you chaps are the simply the best thought it was DJ swinging at the end.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Will!

@jetpylot12 3 жыл бұрын

Solid advice as usual!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@loui553 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@bobscottjnr 3 жыл бұрын

Maintain left side bend a little deeper into the downswing. Tough to open hips/shoulders when the spine is tilted away from the target; the lead shoulder will just go up.

@leannespicer1543 3 жыл бұрын

There is a tour player plays on the European tour he swing like Milo lines long and straight Ryan Fox from New Zealand. Transition down to the ball quite the same and he is one off longest hitter on European and Pga. I believe in Milo Lines teaching method.

@sjc6717 3 жыл бұрын

Love his swing, powerful guy!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and yes, Ryan has a power packed move!

@jgb6802 3 жыл бұрын

He has a baseball swing.

@davidbyrne3623 Жыл бұрын

Needed this video so bad right now.. excellent explanation

@MiloLinesGolf Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@AGCampagna 3 жыл бұрын

Not a single golf coach, except you, mentions that the "Shoulders are a reflection of the hips". Awesome stuff

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Anthony, hope it helped!

@ks338 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I need to work on !!!!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@ebitalian02767 9 ай бұрын

This is the best video I’ve seen and I never realized I was getting that left shoulder so high.

@MiloLinesGolf 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for following along!

@Ryan-mv1ce 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. The challenge is to do this without getting the club steep. And with less lateral movement of the lower body it’s harder to control low point, but no doubt this is the ideal way to swing. You guys make it look easy, I hit pulls doing this.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Join me on milolinesgolf.com and we’ll help you learn to match up the parts so you won’t struggle with the pull anymore

@grahamjones7371 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Yes its all about the Sequencing,luckily i have good lower body action, my weakness in the sequence was not using my left chest/Pec to power my left shoulder/arm fling! So if like me your left violently twists into the ground in soft conditions you may be trying to make up for a lack of Pec Power! in the sequence.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Sequence is key! Thanks Graham

@edlasatergolf 3 жыл бұрын

Golden!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks pro!

@johncreet1254 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of my problems, so I'm very pleased I saw this video.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Hope it was helpful, John, thanks for watching!

@lenardtan7169 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Advice

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lenard!

@stevenklinkhamer9069 Жыл бұрын

"Down and around." I like it. It rhymes and makes sense at the same time. I suspect this has been an issue for me in my transition. "Everything working down." I feel like I got a target on me. Guilty as you know what.

@MiloLinesGolf Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! If we can be of further guidance, please do check out our online academy where we offer monthly analysis. milolinesgolf.com

@canefan17 3 жыл бұрын

You guys are absolutely right. I don’t have to think about my left shoulder so long as my hips work correctly.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Love it!

@dlwitthoft 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Milo this is my exact issue. Any feels/drills to get the lower body engaged properly? My left hip moves forward in backswing but never moves back and out of the way coming down.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

I like to put alignment sticks in the belt to give perspective

@davefawkes8884 2 жыл бұрын

Love this Milo. Something I’ve struggled with for years & this really joined the dots for me. Tried it today & seeing an improvement. Only issue is I was coming into the ball a little steep. Any thoughts?

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you were pulling down a bit and not matching it up with the sequence and wrist conditions, I'd have to see it.

@davefawkes8884 2 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf Thanks for the reply Milo. Do you have a youtube video that would help show the matchup and wrist sequence? I post as Dave.Fawkes on insta if you had time to look.

@danielwenderlich3438 3 жыл бұрын

Great information, next step for me is to join your on line program!

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Please do, we'd love to have you!

@billygraham5589 2 жыл бұрын

A comment about the difference between this Milo endorsed hip turn and the Hogan type big hip shift - would anyone have any thoughts on this? I’m impressed by what I see here, but how did Hogan make it work?

@ReSourceEnergetics Жыл бұрын

Henry, unfortunately I know this one too! It also gets worse if I don’t recenter properly (far enough or early enough). Love this vid. Alan

@MiloLinesGolf Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Alan!

@skylernicholas5429 2 жыл бұрын

See this just shows how hard golf is when you have something ingrained. Good stuff Milo and Henry. I don't mean to say that in a way that says the concept is difficult, but as an amateur relearning new pathways is HARD. You have to do it slowly overtime and forget about results!

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Yep! That’s why I’ve laid it all out on my online academy. milolinesgolf.com

@skylernicholas5429 2 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf I joined last week! My dad winters down there, hope to take an in person some time after implementing the foundations at home in the net!

@jimspatz9211 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect. Has been my main issue for 45 years.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Jim!

@bjohnson515 3 жыл бұрын

Trail shoulder closes the gap between itself and the lead knee...in transition....good thought? Then "around the corner" as you say...? Good stuff Milo.....

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not a bad though as long as it doesn't pitch the trail one too far outward.

@Tidoublemy 3 жыл бұрын

Milo, I am absolutely crushing the ball lately but my misses tend to be heel strikes. I think it's because I need to extend my wrists more at set up so the ball is further away. Not much of a question but do you find that people transitioning to this type of swing tend to have more heel strikes?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

If they were accustomed to hitting with their hands yes they have to learn to hit it way later so the left side is back farther

@slpage99 3 жыл бұрын

Milo, when you say the club should be towed into the hitting area, are you ever applying pressure to the grip with the right hand? Torque?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

The right arm provides structure and helps accelerate the left arm but doesn’t flip the club head past the hands that happens through physical forces out of your control

@scottchristie7945 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is what I haven't been understanding! In an effort to stop the right shoulder going out towards the ball and over the top I've started dropping my right shoulder down and left shoulder up to start the downswing! And when I do that I never understood how can I transfer my weight forward if my upper body is dropping back!! Now I realise if I keep the left shoulder down a little longer till I've transferred my weight then turn???? Does that make sense?? 😜 thanks! Great video!

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, make sure to check out my other videos on pivoting and using the ground. I have numerous video discussing these points. Thanks for following along Scott!

@jefflin1400 3 жыл бұрын

When ever I try this, I start to have a reversed spine tilt soon as I pivot my left hip back. Any advises on how to prevent this from happening? Thanks

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

I’d have to see your swing to give you a good answer

@stevekeller3643 11 ай бұрын

I’m so dang confused- just saw a Michael Breed video on “Coming over the top” where he talked about the club being above the shaft line instead of correctly below it on the downswing. He showed a drill then made swings incorporating the fix but I noticed his left shoulder & hip were higher at impact ? Why the disparity ? Thank you

@MiloLinesGolf 11 ай бұрын

No disparity they simply work down in transition then naturally back up and around.

@j.p.montpellier3834 2 жыл бұрын

I see u subscribe to the KISS method . Bravo Gents ...U're really helping us all make golf a lot more fun. 👏👏👏😊🍻🥇🇨🇦

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear J.P.!

@j.p.montpellier3834 2 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf 👍🇨🇦🍻

@sergio_lelevier 2 жыл бұрын

Same action for the driver?

@TechGFR 3 жыл бұрын

I imagine things like sliding as opposed to rotating are like many things in golf. Most golf instruction is from the FRONT on or DOWN THE LINE perspective. You forget golf is a 3D game, played on an inclined plane. I didn't have youtube growing up, just magazines. These provided only 2D views which gave me a lot of misconceptions. You guys also touched on one thing. The golf swing is about a second. The down swing about 1/3 a second. Got any ideas on what to think about in that amount of time??

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

No what you are thinking or trying to feel is individual to you and might need adjustment from time to time

@bobjunior2710 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on what causes a thin shot?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, will add it to our long list =).

@109robin 2 жыл бұрын

Well this morning on range (before seeing this video) I was trying to make this (pivot) move and was totally unsuccessful - and very disappointed. I'm 75 and was a pretty good baseball player and tennis player but cannot correctly make this move. I am 5'8" and my backswing is very short with little separation between upper and lower body. When I try to move like you recommend I hit it fat or very fat. I see virtually no players swinging this way - and being Starter at my local GC. I see a lot of players - including the guys and gals on the Texas State golf teams who practice at my course. Any tips on how (and even whether) an old guy with lousy flexibility can learn how to swing this way? It just looks right. I am not a slicer, btw, and hit the 7-iron about 145.

@johnnewbrough18 18 күн бұрын

you say pour on the gas and keep coming out of the way, pouring on the gas is firing right knee??? or turning the chest??

@MiloLinesGolf 18 күн бұрын

Chest

@anthonyviola9400 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid lesson! Would you do this also for the driver ?👍

@davidknepp3219 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know....

@countfloyd1269 3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@canefan17 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just make sure you have the correct tilt at address (reverse K).

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Yes this applies to all clubs simply adjust your setup with ball more forward to create the upward attack angle.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

@@canefan17 not a fan of reverse K. Here is what I teach kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hcmmodp9xt2ZoXk.html

@steveperry1344 3 жыл бұрын

i have to fight against that exact thing because when i do it wrong it's a block or maybe a pull but when i get it right it's a decent shot. this is gonna help, thnx.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Rock and block is no fun.

@steveperry1344 3 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf definitely.

@ronj.6728 9 ай бұрын

Some good stuff in this video. However the downswing contortion that Henry puts himself into at 6:00 is something I have never seen in a professional golfer. I have a large collection of high quality videos at 120fps and higher, so I can stop the video at many different points in the swing, and no one gets into that position.

@patg4246 3 жыл бұрын

So you actually get lower to the ground at the beginning of the downswing? But wouldn’t you hit the ground before the ball on the way down- confused because of your stance at the beginning?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

No if some wrist angles are still retained you must stay down. This video explains why kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMV-fNd4vdHIaXk.html

@bxlawless100 3 жыл бұрын

His do you stop the club from slamming into the ground if you “go down”. I’ll never understand that!

@billyt9921 2 жыл бұрын

Right side bend, right wrist angle maintained and right elbow is still bent @ impact. Totally different from address position.

@bxlawless100 2 жыл бұрын

@@billyt9921 How about a video about that part especially the bent elbow.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Yup!

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

I have several of these on our channel and more coming soon!

@thomasfraser9072 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Guys. Your right golfer should never shrug their right or left shoulders up during the swing of the club. This being said did you know that both shoulders can only rotate In their sockets by 20 degrees? And that both shoulders must move from the very start of the golfer’s swing to the very finished? This being said at the start of the golfer downswing the left shoulder must only turn and rotate up as the right shoulder is rotating 20 degrees down until both shoulders levels off at the end of the swing. Cheers

@jackbisson9226 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like the left hip cleared for Henry and the shoulders are still allowed to rotate properly with the lead should going up adding to the release speed at the right time.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

He's got a good action!

@seeingbeyond666 Жыл бұрын

Nothing you mentioned happened with the shoulders or the hips...

@method341 3 жыл бұрын

Won't left shoulder down cause you to come in steep and/or lunging towards the target?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Not if you turn on plane and pivot correctly with the center of mass staying behind. I would suggest watching some of my other videos. Thanks for watching!

@ksharpe10 3 жыл бұрын

I should call him on his Phone while he is doing one of these videos. Milo I'm a mess I got teeter totter hips, hitting all my clubs more or less the same distance, keep dumping balls in lakes. Can you Help, PLEASE. Bet that would drive him Nutz.

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@TopblokeGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Is this mainly for golfers under 40?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

No, I believe a rotational swing like this is safe and natural for anyone, although I do have several videos discussing a more upright swing as in my most recent live lesson video.

@TopblokeGolf 3 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf will check it out.thanks

@wesleyhilde1 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone doing all dis power positions after Bryson and Tigers ass changed da game!

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

This move was seen long before those two were born.

@adamhazelwood5282 3 жыл бұрын

How can I program my body to do this, LOL 😆

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Through our Foundations =)

@harleyholohan1 2 жыл бұрын

When I try this, I just end up hitting steep cuts for some reason.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

The club needs to match up and lay down behind the rotation. I would need to see your swing to give you best feedback Harley, but the club is probably getting pulled down simultaneously. Check out my website if I can be of further help: milolinesgolf.com

@truthlifefishing1730 11 ай бұрын

"Where once I was blind, now I can see."

@MiloLinesGolf 11 ай бұрын

👍

@saijinkai 2 жыл бұрын

This has to be paired with the correct hands so the club falls instead of coming over. Otherwise it’s an over the top swing with pulls, slices, hooks, etc.

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

We cover the wrist conditions to match in numerous other videos. Thanks for watching.

@normankleinberg5525 3 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or does this seem a lot like George Gankas' downswing? Please don't misunderstand me: I respect Milo as one of the best instructors around, explaining things very well and I know "the devil is in the details". But that lead knee rotation looks soooooo similar. :)

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

GG and I teach a lot of the same concepts. More and more coaches are starting to teach golfers to swing like athletes!

@normankleinberg5525 3 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf Good for you, thanks for your generous response. I mean, as you say, "There are many ways to swing a golf club", but, really, how many ways are there to swing a golf club (if you know what I mean)? I'd LOVE to use your approach but, as a senior, I'm afraid I'd twist myself into the ground. :)

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Many ways to get it done. Check out my most recent video, a live lesson with a senior golfer.

@lutzchoco1 2 жыл бұрын

Almost....

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

@lutzchoco1 2 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf Almost...meaning we are close to the secret

@MiloLinesGolf 2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe there is truly a secret. My philosophies are based on the movements I've seen amongst the games greatest players.

@lutzchoco1 2 жыл бұрын

@@MiloLinesGolf Milo i always cut down the swing 2 majors components.Lag sustainability and speed creation. Now for the later there are multiple ways to get the club moving. For lag i think there is ONLY one move that "glues" the shaft in the fingers and allows to sustain shaft deflection ..... the Graal we are all after. Thats the singularity of the swing the one and only that matters...

@Frank-yx1np 3 жыл бұрын

like gangkas?

@MiloLinesGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, we have some coaching similarities. Thanks for watching!

@nokia5359 2 жыл бұрын

not easy at all. it s been a struggle for me to not spinning my hip and ended up on trail leg. most trouble some is when i try for a few more yards on a par 4. sometime the ball flew sideway to left T marker, literally. golf is hard.