Personally, I think this is one of the most interesting video you guys have done. Finger strength and stretching are very good, but at the end of the day, modern climbing is about movement. I agree that the boulders should at least be safe, even if they don't feel like it. Those are not one in the same, which maybe doesn't get talked about very much. It's also interesting how body morphology and strengths play into how we move. I quite like the comparison format, as you can see how these differences lead to different outcomes. As a shorter climber, dynamic jumps always far, but when I watch bigger people do them, it doesn't look so hard. The paradox is that as a shorter climber, I often have to use a more dynamic, powerful style to reach holds that are static for taller climbers.

Chris ist wirklich ein selten schöner Schildkrötenman :-)

I mostly agree with Chris here. While I do think this style of setting leads to good separation in competitions, the risk potential is sometimes just too high. I'm not saying that this isn't climbing anymore, because in my opinion, it is, and I quite enjoy it here and there tbh. I just hope that the setting will continue to include different styles and not just push the "jumpy" stuff into a more dangerous manner. And also... great video! Felt like 5 minutes haha

oh ya and on the bicep, chris biceps look beefer, but alex has like a dual lump bicep. its like the bicep has its own bicep? training for lifeee

I feel competition climbing has evolved into a very interesting sport. As a viewer I love watching Tomoa sending a crazy paddle dyno move or Mejdi floating up a dynamic style boulder. The comp style dynamic moves are fun to watch, and they look impressive even if you don't know anything about climbing. But as a competitor I have felt that the focus on the dynamic moves is a bit too much. I have always enjoyed the variety that you get from climbing, there are lots of different styles and types of climbing. I would personally like to see more low percentage, delicate slab climbing or more 3D types of moves where you have to move around volumes. I would also love to see some more crack climbing introduced into the competition scene, as well as some good old school crimpy climbs. Ultimately though I think the most important thing would be to find a good balance to showcase all the different types of climbing.

I clicked so fast I didn't even see the thumbnail

9:18 i did not expect that, i guess it is a legal moove in a comp.

23:55 "is this climbing anymore" - good question. probably asked a lot. not fun for the climber but good for red bull and other energy drink sponsors... all they care for is a sport that looks spectacular and is good for merchandising. I know it has benefits for the sport, too and I acknowledge that.

I would love to see more basic power boulders in world cup competitions and the upcoming olympics. It's not even that the new school comp style isn't fun but I feel the current trend is too focused on who's the best at co-ordination moves vs who can climb the hardest boulders.

It's really nice to watch you guys fool around while coming up with serious training boulders. Your humor is amazing! In terms of the competition climbing I'd personally enjoy fewer parcour style boulders. For sure, a dynamic jump with a sketchy landing is cool to see for the broad audience. But so would be some tricky moves that enforce 3D movements, feet fist etc. in my opinion. A little swing and catch move should also be fine, as long as there's no risky landing on a tiny foothold involved, which if you miss it or hit it wrongly either shaves your shin or twists your ankle. 😅

Ich brauch unbedingt viel mehr davon

17:05 - "He can visualize movement very good". Maybe it's because he sees better without safety glasses 🤔

23:07 “ALTAAAA” such satisfaction, love the feeling ✨

Sehe es ähnlich wie Alex. Ein Mix sollte für den Sport am besten sein. Man merkt schon alleine daran welches Bild bei Leuten im Kopf ensteht bei dem Begriff "Comp Style" bouldering. Ich denke aber auch, dass für die Entwicklung des Sports im allgemeinen dieser Parkourartige boulderstil wichtig ist , da es für die Zuschauer sehr Unterhaltsam ist. Allerdings sollten die Schrauber meiner Meinung nach in erster Linie die Sicherheit und den Spaß der Athleten im Blick haben, denn wenn die Athleten keinen Spaß an dem haben was sie tun, werden früher oder später alle darunter leiden.

Great video thanks, I fully agree with Chris & Alex that current comp (WC level especially) setting is not finding the ‘best overall climber’ but more about showy parkour type movements (that depend a lot on luck when you only have 4 mins) and which can be dangerous. PS: Alex rocks those Dad shorts

You guys are actual half-gods...chris maybe a little bit more then half

If you have any bad comments don’t write them, we don’t want to read them…best ending ever

Wirklich ein tolles und informatives Video Alex. Danke! Gerne mehr davon!

You guys are semi gods to me

Coolest gymowners ever doing their thing. Ich mag euer Kauderwelsch ;) 22:55 echt jetzt?! 23:25 Exactly my point. Too risky. Die Mischung macht's. Gutes Video 👍.

14:35 "mir tun richtig die Zehen weh, man". 10 Sekunden später direkt wieder rein in die engen Sadomasolatschen 😅

Great video! Was going to say I'm not a fan of high risk setting then I remembered "there is no excuses, only weakness"

suns out guns out boysss! i feel comp climbing became like a high risk high reward at the expense of the climber. i mean dual tex cant be seen on the tv or to the layman viewer. So to get those nice moves out of climbers don't have to be done at the expense of a bleeding shin or broken toe. I guess route setters should look at this and get those money shot moves out without injuring the athletes. keep it guys!

super video, really looking forward to this series! Keep up the great work!

love to see it

Lieb die Energie die Ihr immer in den Videos mitbringt, mal wieder ein gelungenes Video! :)

Wenn du eigentlich schon schlafen gehen willst, weil du Kopfschmerzen hast und dann lädt Aex ein Video mit Chris hoch.... 😮 😢 😊 Besser als jede Schmerztablette😂

A comp climb must not test an athlete’s *reasonable* fear of getting injured. Period.

I think it is a good idear to sometimes change the juggs to mix it up or put something on to jump around. I love the indight in to the prefesional climbing world.

Love the video, I think there huge potential for the series !

This isn’t climbing, this is a comedy show!😂 Very funny guys!🍺

You raise some really good points, but one thing I was asking myself was this: could this also be a generational thing? Not saying you’re old, but both of you guys grew up with a very different climbing style. What about the young guns? How do the Mejdis, Maxs and the Soratos feel about this? It would be really interesting to hear their opinions. (Awesome video guys really enjoyed watching this 🔥)

Regarding low % moves and comp setting: it would be really interesting if they start mixing styles within a boulder. Now it's like one is a slab another is a dyno and another is a power problem. But that just makes different people top different boulders. It would be interesting to see what happens when styles are combined and you have to switch mindset between moves.

Such an interesting video! Can’t wait for the next one

Both biceps are cool in their own way, I wouldn’t compare them❤

As the creator of America’s first climbing wall for the general public! You guys are all over it!!!!

3:28 is brilliant 🤣

great discussion!

Very cool video. More of that please!❤

ich finde die Idee super. Super starke Leute an indoor/comp bouldern bzw. sogar geziellt für weltcups üben zu sehen, gibts kaum. Ich als indoor kind find es sehr spannend. gern mehr davon :)

They've been setting some scary stuff in comps recently, pretty high up on the walls too usually. I mean climbing is an inherently dangerous sport but I fear for ankles

Que buen video, estaba muy entretenido y siempre me rio con las bromas que hacen, muy buenos boulders porcierto 🤙🤙🤙

really enjoyed this video!

eure Meinung über derzeitige comp styles ist sehr spannend zu hören!

When people say "comp style" and they mean the dynamic jumpy scary stuff, i kinda disagree. I still usually see in comps one slab, one really powerful boulder, and yes also one dynamic one but IMO in comps its still a varied mix of styles. Maybe people notice the dynamic part more because they usually avoid those kind of climbs or dont like them?

I am just commenting to congratulate Chris on the sneaky engagement farming :D :D

Alex, you are such a likeable character. (Edit: both of you) Keep it up! When is your next comp?

as a short person i will just say it's much easier for a short person to do a big move than for a tall person to get into a small box.

outstanding video! would love to join in - even though I could probably hold none of these holds...

Demigods, all of you :)

9:16 lmfao, I’m dying here

I would argue that competition sport is going in general in this direction. there are too many good athletes, most sports are growing and training techniques and nutrition is getting better and better. its a little bit like in the university (just way more extreme), one is studying hundreds of hours for a 15min test. tests/competitions have to develop somehow to grade fairly, otherwise those, who are best prepared for the test/competition will win and not those who are better over all.

einfach sympathisch =)

Sleeping lion video still rules..:-)

It's like how I feel climbing any v0 slab in joshua tree

Bin ich der Einzige, der sich bei „wie viele Schrauben sind da drin…“ und dem felgenden Dialog kaputt gelacht hat?

What are the shoes Alex is wearing pls?

My view on setting style is that setters need to be very careful about what attributes in the athletes the boulders are testing. Just because "It does a good job of creating separation in the field" does not mean that it tests climbing ability or even that it's fun to watch. For example, I think setting pure flexibility boulders is completely boring. I recall two situations, one with Simon Lorenzi climbing and the other with a Japanese climber (sorry, forgot his name) climbing. These two athletes simply lacked the flexibility to necessary to achieve the move. Each case was a painful 4 minutes to watch as they made no progress and there did not seem to be any alternative beta. I found it especially boring because I am naturally flexible, and could easily imagine myself doing the move if I were just a little stronger. Simon and the Japanese fellow clearly had no chance, tho, due to limited flexibility, something that has a very large genetic component but does not correlate very strongly with climbing ability. I believe that setters need to avoid the temptation to select based on attributes that vary a lot between athletes (thus creating "separation") but that have little to do with general climbing ability.

I have no idea, but Isnt there a problem with people being too strong on old school stuff? I mean, you would also have to set ridiculously low percentage boulders in the classical style as well? Or am i totally wrong?

Alex, when is your Altitude course going to be released? Hope Magnus hasn't made you sign NDAs.

hangboard power endurance video !!

I agree that comp climbs are leaning too much to the jumpy/coordingation and low percentage stuff. It would be nice to see a better balance of climbing styles.

Cool video, enjoyed it as much as I hated the sound... nah, I enjoyed it more, but hope you get the memo

boa hörma jung! ihr seid doch halbgötter eyyy

Nice ilmango intro theme

another great day

misters red, yellow, blue

Free solo 8c .. insist on safety glasses with a screw haha

Its much harder to select with power because modern top level boulderers are all so insanely strong.

Was für Halbgötter ich hab im dem video nur Götter gesehen… ;)

I personally don't like dual text holds/climbs where it's purely on the slick side that's used. I'm not climbing super polished slippery rock like that outdoors and Just not something I want to do indoors. I can't really feel like i'm getting a move down with that. For balancing moves give me a good slab with just small feet or something. I just don't feel like i enjoy spending the time on dual text or maybe I just haven't had an interesting problem set using it.

Landing the dual tex upside foot first try was ridiculous

Ich will zwei Profikletterern wirklich nicht sagen wie sie ihr Ding tun sollen, aber da Schwingen schon länger im Parkour daheim ist, mach ichs mal trotzdem. Bei dem Lache ist es idr. sehr hilfreich auszuschultern d.h. einen arm länger an den Griffen lassen und nach hinten werfen. Das führt einerseits dazu, dass man noch weiter kommt und vor allem kann man dadurch leichter wieder in eime vertikale Körperpositiom rotieren.

In which Halle is this?

I wants some who loves climbing as much as a do who will let me dyno into there lap like Alex does

Super fun video 😊 I agree with much of what Chris said, but at the same time I feel like it is fun to push the sport in different and new ways. Unfortunately that comes at the cost of horrifying and uncomfortable moves for the climbers. How do you guys feel about cracks being set in the world cup?

11:25 ohhh der arme Hold :(

"legs" ;)

Bicep chiken

first

At this point, a scatter could become a comp climber

Chris and Megos are using different feet. Chris the R and megos the L. Weird that they didnt realize that fact. I am always scared of these moves with respect to the risk for achilles rupture.

I like dynos - both watching and doing them

how do i get pecs like you

I thought this was a climbing channel. Climbing content when?

7th to coment

Ju ar haafgods

Should try setting training boulders similar to: 13:27 on pistol squat on left leg 26:21 on paddle dynos from kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qq12q8yH2K2qaZc.html Enjoy!

getting pinned by Alex Megos would make my day 😁