2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY 4K WHY DOES IT LOOK SO GOOD?

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4 жыл бұрын

2001 A Space Odyssey on 4K UHD Blu-Ray is regarded as one of the best 4K video releases thus far. Just why does this 1968 film look so good and does it stand up to all the accolades under scrutiny? We take a look into the large film format history of this classic which includes a fairly comprehensive look at the three-strip Cinerama process and 70mm film formats.
Thanks to Stuart Hillaker for the shotsfrom the 2016 British Film Collectors Convention.
To see the full Cinerama Smilebox trailer to 'This Is Cinerama': • "This is Cinerama". 20...

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@spinning-around
@spinning-around 3 жыл бұрын
The visuals and special effects in this movie, have aged better than effects in movies that came out 10 years ago.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. John.
@Markus_Andrew
@Markus_Andrew 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Some of those carousel scenes onboard Discovery were quite confounding to the senses, especially when seen on a huge screen.
@paulwalsh9680
@paulwalsh9680 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Some of the sfx in Star Wars for instance are showing their age. 2001 is simply a masterpiece.
@steve-852
@steve-852 3 жыл бұрын
Or this year
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 3 жыл бұрын
Star Trek The Motion Picture also has great effects better than many of today's.
@earlgrey3461
@earlgrey3461 3 жыл бұрын
When I turned 10 years old, in 1968, my parents wanted to know what I wanted for my birthday... “I’d like to see this new space movie, 2001: A Space Odyssey.” “...are you sure son? It’s playing all the way out in Hollywood, a 40 minute drive...” Lol! I was adamant about it, and saw 2001 in its first run at The Cinerama Dome. 2001 is still my favorite film. Great video, and thanks much!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Earl, you had great taste in movies from a very young age. And to think, you can still go to that same Cinerama theatre all these years later. The perfect venue for 2001 A Space Odyssey. John.
@bobspies9
@bobspies9 2 жыл бұрын
I was 13, and had a similar experience. I came out of the theater in a daze--couldn't think about anything else for a very long time. And today it remains my all-time favorite film. But I think your memory about it being shown in the Cinerama Dome might be mistaken. While 2001 was later shown at the Cinerama Dome, when it originally came out in 1968 it was shown at the Hollywood Pacific Cinerama on Hollywood Blvd (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Pacific_Theatre), which no longer exists. If my memory is correct, one cool thing they did was to play the introductory music (before the start of the film and at the end of the intermission) throughout the lobby--not just in the theater itself--thus informing patrons it was time to get in their seats!
@earlgrey3461
@earlgrey3461 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobspies9 yes, I think you’re correct about the theater. I’ve always assumed it was at The Dome, but I don’t have any real solid memories until we were actually entering the theater, which was all red velvet curtains/etc…. And yes, I remember the music playing as we walked in. Great info! Thanks!
@bobspies9
@bobspies9 2 жыл бұрын
@@earlgrey3461 Yes, I remember those red velvet curtains opening! We were sitting at the front of the balcony, and I remember a rush of adrenalin and being in absolute awe. I didn't fully understand the film on that first viewing, but it was still a religious experience. Thanks.
@davidmacphee8348
@davidmacphee8348 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobspies9 I was 13 and it blew me away. I remember saying to my younger brother how great it was but what was it about?
@jameshp11
@jameshp11 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 2001 in a IMAX on a 70mm print rerelease in 2018. Absolutely stunning. Nothing like it.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Well done James. Wish I'd been there too. John.
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you're lucky.
@dougthedesigner
@dougthedesigner Жыл бұрын
James, I agree! Having seen the original movie (in 1968 on the Cinerama screen)… the IMAX version is even better (especially the sound and image resolution). I don’t understand why they don’t keep showing it in IMAX every so often .
@CarlosKoji87
@CarlosKoji87 8 ай бұрын
Cinerama Dome for the 50th Anniversary?
@advancelast1740
@advancelast1740 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why this appeared in my recommended but very pleased it has, a fantastic gem, a brilliant video. Thank you
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to say so. John.
@alexs.1242
@alexs.1242 3 жыл бұрын
That was my thought exactly. I just posted my own comment, before seeing this. Couldn't agree more.
@Losttouchjs
@Losttouchjs 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this at the theaters when I was a kid. At the end of the movie I turned to my dad and ask him why I was being punished. 🤷‍♂️
@Greinkus
@Greinkus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Losttouchjs LOL! 😄😄😄‼️
@Raygo.
@Raygo. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Losttouchjs Your poor father. And now you're... an adult? 😏
@1dbanner
@1dbanner 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 2001 in 70mm in Chicago last year before the coronapocalypse, and it was as close to a religious experience as I've ever had at the movies. This video could be called How I Learned To Stop Streaming and Love Large Format.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect Eric. Thank you again. John.
@1dbanner
@1dbanner 3 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance (I don't have 4K), but how did you get the Cinerama "smilebox" aspect ratio on your television?
@danopticon
@danopticon 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric Peeper - At the Music Box? That and _Laurence of Arabia_ are amazing in 70mm, and I love the Music Box’s 70mm screenings. (Before they renovated their big theater’s screen, they had an actual silver-colored screen, and spent a month showing 3D movies on it that’d been shot using the old silver-screen process - _Dial M for Murder_ in the original 3D is something else!) Anywho… a while ago, when Christopher Nolan had something-or-another in theaters, for some reason a new 70mm print of _2001: A Space Odyssey_ was simultaneously commissioned and screened around the USA, and there were rumors it’d be screened in honest-to-God Cinerama in Los Angeles! I would’ve bought a train ticket and traveled to see it, but I could never nail down whether or not it was really going to happen. Ahhh, enormous curved screen…
@1dbanner
@1dbanner 3 жыл бұрын
@@danopticon Yes! It was my first time at the Music Box. Beautiful theatre. I saw a screening of Lawrence here in Indiana in 2019, but sadly it a digital print. Still great to see on the big screen, but I'd love to see it in 70mm.
@HeavyHauler
@HeavyHauler 3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@SewerTapes
@SewerTapes 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I came in ready to answer the question of why it looks so good in 4K with "35mm is equivalent to about 5.6K." I had no idea this was shot on 70mm, and knew of "Cinerama" in name only. Thanks for the wonderfully informative video.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. And remember, when we're talking about 4K and the rest of it that is all compressed. Uncompressed and 35mm is off the scale... more than twice that amount for negative stock too. John.
@SewerTapes
@SewerTapes 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 Rad.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an original release viewer -- I first saw 2001: A Space Odyssey in 1968 during its first run. I was a confused 9 year old and didn't see the movie again until I was 16. Over the next several years, I watched the listings for any showing of this move I could find. And each time I see it, in theaters or any other way, it is a fresh experience. This movie never gets old!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
That sums it up well Brian. John.
@dakrontu
@dakrontu 3 жыл бұрын
My art teacher gave his class the afternoon off school to go see the movie when it came out in 1968. One of the most important educational experiences in my entire life.
@mattmiller2761
@mattmiller2761 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 2001 in Cinerama when it first came out with my Dad. I was 10 years old. Still remember it and both of us being baffled by the ending.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful memory... even if you couldn't fathom the ending but then no one else could either! John.
@u2mister17
@u2mister17 3 жыл бұрын
My college brother and his friend took me a 13 year old kid to THE FIRST SHOWING at a downtown theater. 3rd row slightly left of center balcony. 3 screens where you needed to turn your head just a bit to see all that analog magnificence. I knew what we just watched was historic when we exited and there was almost no one speaking. Then as we walked thru the doors to the outside we were met by 3 to 4 hundred people all asking the same question and not getting an answer from the opened mouth zombies. One guy looked dead at me and asked.....was it good....I distinctly remember only being able to nod.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 3 жыл бұрын
You, me and 7 billion others have been baffled by the ending!
@Markus_Andrew
@Markus_Andrew 3 жыл бұрын
The novel by Arthur C. Clarke is far more clear as to what the ending is about. Clarke and Kubrick reportedly clashed quite a bit over the story, so Clarke's book is not simply a novelized version of the screenplay but rather the story as he, Clarke, wanted to tell it. Had the final part of the movie been filmed the way Clarke envisioned it, it would have been a lot clearer as to what was going on (it would have been far more difficult to film however, given that this was decades before the advent of CGI). I recommend the novel for anyone who was baffled by the last part of the movie. The visual splendour of the movie notwithstanding, I prefer the novel in terms of story.
@charlesballard5251
@charlesballard5251 3 жыл бұрын
@@Markus_Andrew Agreed. Anyone who was baffled by the end of the movie (EVERYONE!!!!) needs to read Clarke's novel. It is NOT ambiguous. It tells you exactly what happened to Bowman and why. Then you need to read "2010: Odyssey Two" because it tells why HAL went mad. Don't bother with the 2 novels after that, they both just show that Clarke was losing his grip as he aged.
@adrianunderwood8642
@adrianunderwood8642 3 жыл бұрын
This is a magnificent movie, well ahead of its time, a true spectacle and one of the best movies of all-time!
@captainhaire
@captainhaire 3 жыл бұрын
Every new viewing format should use this movie as a bench mark. Don’t unveil it until you’re sure 2001 is well served by it.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. John.
@jeffhayz7802
@jeffhayz7802 3 жыл бұрын
For people who just "got" the ending right away - It drives home the most important aspect of our existence. We are babies in space - growing up into a new world, not just metaphorically.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Well put Jeff. John.
@e.l.norton
@e.l.norton 3 жыл бұрын
I never took it quite that way. The monolith represents an evolutionary leap forward for mankind whenever it comes into contact with us. In the beginning of the film, "Early Man's" contact with the monolith gave rise to his evolutionary leap in intelligence that saw the bone as a tool, and the initial instinct to use it as a weapon. And, that first tool gave rise to space travel in the famous jump cut. The starchild at the end simply represented the next big evolutionary step forward for mankind.
@davidcoon3602
@davidcoon3602 3 жыл бұрын
@@e.l.norton I sure hope to see you there when we make that jump. Can't hardly wait.
@Michael.Eddington
@Michael.Eddington 3 жыл бұрын
@Warren Elisha What’s the name of that website again?
@moondoggie1970
@moondoggie1970 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered Movie Collector by watching this video and I couldn't stop watching his videos for about 2 hrs. One after another. He's so knowledgeable in regard to movies in general and I enjoyed his delivery as well as his ability to teach about cinema.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
That's rather nice Richard. Thank you. John.
@trueCinemaniac
@trueCinemaniac 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for this great video on the 2001 A Space Odyssey 4K bluray, and the history of the film on home video. I always feel enriched after watching each of your videos, please keep them coming!!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
I'm planning a 4K vs. 2K video next cinemaniac as these reviews have caused me to think that maybe there just ain't so much in it as we would expect. I have a Blu-ray of the 1972 'Klute' en route which Criterion say is from a 4K master so I'll see how well that compares to other 35mm 4K discs of a similar nature. Also, titles such as 'A Few Good Men' which I thought were certainly better on 4K when I compared it to the Blu-ray upon first viewing so I'll see if that is still my opinion and perhaps ascertain why it is so much better on 4K when other titles are not.
@trueCinemaniac
@trueCinemaniac 4 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 I look very forward to the comparison of 4K vs 2K. I have not been able to resist constantly upgrading my movie collection of almost 2000 titles, starting with VHS & Beta to Laserdisc to DVD to Blu-Ray and I've recently been splurging on 4K Blu-Rays. If I'm honest with myself, many of these upgrades probably haven't been necessary as I only revisit a portion of my movie collection regularly. But the completist and collector in me has to get the latest and greatest, certainly with my favorite movies, and especially since I now watch movies on a projector. Can't wait to see what your take is on 4K vs 2K!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
@@trueCinemaniac You have an even bigger library of films than I. At least there's no time to waste on television which is just as well with the awful state of it nowadays. I already have my theories on 4K vs. 2K but I need to get in the cinema for a few hours to test them all thoroughly before reaching better informed conclusions. It was the poor sequences in Terminator Dark Fate that started me thinking - the dark sequences where little could be seen. It may have been screened in cinemas that way but I can't believe they'd get away with that.
@trueCinemaniac
@trueCinemaniac 4 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 Indeed there is little time for TV, but I confess my roughly 2000 title library is actually a mixture of movies, TV series, documentaries, sports and music videos. But in the past few years after getting my projector, I have mostly just been watching blu-ray movies, and most recently my 4K upgrades. My Epson projector isn't a 4K projector so I'm not getting all the goodness, but my somewhat undiscerning eyes tell me that the 4Ks on the whole look somewhat sharper and more detailed. But if I'm being honest with myself, blu-rays on the whole look quite good projected and I'm not sure how much better the 4Ks are in comparison. Suffice it to say, I'm very much looking forward to seeing and hearing your findings!
@MondoChelloveckMovies
@MondoChelloveckMovies 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I enjoy listening to the technical side of your reviews, I like the attention to detail about aspects of the movie you are talking about keep up the great work and I look forward to more work from you 👍👍👍👍
@popetoby178
@popetoby178 3 жыл бұрын
I was 16 years old when I saw it opening weekend at the Hollywood Cinerama Dome. Unforgettable.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, I wish I'd been there for that. Maybe one day we'll both be at the Cineramadome for a recreation of that very night. John.
@popetoby178
@popetoby178 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 That would be something.
@JorisTheWise
@JorisTheWise 3 жыл бұрын
A beautiful review. My father made me grow up with this movie and changed me into a fan of Kubrick. As a projectionist (now digital but my Vic5's are still ready for action and play every month a bit of film to keep them in shape) my heart broke when I saw the 70mm copy of the Eye Museum and noticed the cables at the end and beginning of the reels but still it was quite a sight to see it on the big screen on that format (even though it was a small screen). When we were playing the 4K digitally restored version of the film I missed the warm picture a film projector gives but I still enjoyed it. The funny thing is that a few weeks ago my father showed me this review (which was remarkable because a day before he showed me this review I just happen to stumble upon this review and wanted to tell him about it). Please keep the beautiful reviews and stories coming and thank you for this beautiful gem. Using this channel as a guideline which 4K UHD Blu-rays I should buy.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
I think 2001 A Space Odyssey has touched many of our lives Joris. I would like to make a documentary about that very subject one day because some of the stories about seeing the film through the ages have been beautiful. This film changed the world in some way and there aren't many films we can say that about. Star Wars is the undoubted top film in that regard but it isn't quite the thought provoking thing of beauty that 2001 A Space Odyssey is. There are two other films I rate as cinematic works of art - Apocalypse Now and Blade Runner - but neither of those two masterpieces had the long term effect on the world that 2001 has enjoyed. Say "hello" to your father for me and thank you both for taking the time to watch, and comment, on my video. John.
@nickd4310
@nickd4310 3 жыл бұрын
My parents took me to see it in 1968 and I was impressed. I remember it as if it was yesterday.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
A wonderful memory Nick. John.
@Markus_Andrew
@Markus_Andrew 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, Nick - well, almost. I too saw it with my parents, but in 1969 (major-release movies took a while to make it out here to Australia in those days). I was 9 at the time and it left an indelible impression upon me. I've seen it many times since and it never fails to transport me.
@richardmorgan1588
@richardmorgan1588 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review! I was fortunate to see this movie in a Cinerama theater in Indianapolis back in the day! I saw several films there including my favorite: "How The West Was Won"! I'll never forget the experience!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful memories. How The West Was Won is pretty terrific on Blu-ray but I suspect you'll already know that. John.
@TURBO18TMK4
@TURBO18TMK4 4 жыл бұрын
Really like your reviews. What would be really good is, if you did a tour of your room, inc all equipment being used.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
People have asked for that and I have been thinking about how to do it. I think it will be a surprise as to how simple it all is. The sound system is THX Ultra so too big for the room really but I put it all together for the British Film Collectors Conventions where it got used in a massive hall... and the hall shook.
@captainhaire
@captainhaire 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 you have another vote for a tour!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainhaire I've actually done that one and it can be seen here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLdnqNuK25neko0.html
@captainhaire
@captainhaire 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 Great timing. I’m glad to have found this channel.
@TheTomimt
@TheTomimt 3 жыл бұрын
For me, 2001 has always been the movie. My earliest memory of it comes from the 1980s when I was less than 10 years old. I remember watching it on the TV and how mesmerized I was by it, by every aspect of it. I didn't know much English yet back then, but the visual narrative of the movie was more than enough to transcend any language barrier. (Though I did know how to read and all the foreign movies are subtitled in Finland, so there's that.) 2001 has never felt like a long movie to me. It always manages to suck me in completely and with each viewing, I feel it reveals something new of itself. In some ways, watching it is like a meditative experience on the questions of humanity, life, the universe and time itself. It's a shame, I've never had the opportunity of seeing 2001 on a big screen.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Well when we've consigned this pesky virus to the history books TheTomimt, we are all going to have to fly into England and get to the Bradford Pictureville cinema when they are having a screening. Maybe we should all band together and hire the venue especially! I love your summary of the movie by the way. Spot on. John.
@arkania101
@arkania101 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel was recently recommended by a friend and I’m glad he did - fantastic explanation of the technology and review! Thank you!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary. And please thank your friend for me. John.
@bilkoprince4222
@bilkoprince4222 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this fantastic movie. I have this on 4k . Always look forward to your videos. You put do much work into them. 👍
@vomithaus1
@vomithaus1 3 жыл бұрын
There was a guy in Dayton Ohio (Neon Movies) who did build his own cinerama screen in his home. I saw how the west was won there in Cinerama and chatted with him for a while. Wish I could have been there when 2001 played.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
I think I've seen him on a Filmtek DVD. If it's the same chap he knocked holes in a couple of bedrooms for the left and right projectors to have line of sight to the screen. Amazing man. John.
@jcf20010
@jcf20010 3 жыл бұрын
The Neon Movies had a Cinerama setup for a few years. I saw a 2001 there and a few others. It wasn't at his home though.
@vomithaus1
@vomithaus1 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being amazed at the quality of sound and image when I saw How the West was Won. How did 2001 compare to the image version?
@messiassilvadossantos6224
@messiassilvadossantos6224 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 fantástico messias from Brasil
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@messiassilvadossantos6224 My Brazilian isn't that good Messias but I think I got the message. Thank you! John.
@joefaracevideos
@joefaracevideos Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video and clear explanation of Cinerama. I haven't watched my 4K copy of 2001 yet but the packaging just includes the Blu-ray with special features; no Blu-ray of the film. I was lucky enough to see 2001 in its original release back in 1968 in a Cinerama theater in Baltimore and remember walking out of the theater stunned by the experience. The only second time that happened to me at the movies.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Joe. When this video suddenly exploded about 18 months ago I was getting comment after comment about when people first saw 2001 and as a result of that it made me think that there is a documentary to be made featuring those stories. If the Bradford Cinerama ever puts it on on the genuine Cinerama screen and I can arrange to meet up with a group of enthusiasts who was 2001 on first release then I may be able to make that documentary. John.
@paulwalsh9680
@paulwalsh9680 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video. In Birmingham we used to have the Gaumont cinema with (reputedly) the largest screen, curved and one of the few capable of doing 70mm justice,in Europe. It was there that I first saw Star Wars and I wish I'd been fortunate enough to experience 2001 there
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful memories Paul. So many people are coming forward with their first experience of 2001. It's quite an archive of first-hand great stories that we're getting in the comments on this video. John.
@sle2470
@sle2470 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great film! This was the first Blu-Ray I got after I got my first 1080p TV and PS3 and I was blown away by the increase in quality over my old DVD. I can't wait until I can afford to upgrade to 4K! Unfortunately I've never seen it projected in the cinema. :(
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
The 35mm we borrowed for the British Film Collectors Convention is the closest I've come to a cinema screening sle2470. But one day I'll get along to the Pictureville in Bradford when they're showing it as a Cinerama presentation. John.
@13ged
@13ged 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous review and so much information to absorb in just one viewing! I am one of those who consider this the best 4K disc, but as I only have 16 or so there's not a lot of competition. Looking forward to the next review already.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
The Christopher Nolan films shot with IMAX 70mm film are excellent quality Ged (Interstellar and Dunkirk) but I looked at them again for this and not quite up to the Murder On The Orient Express superlative quality.
@jcf20010
@jcf20010 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the road show version of 2001 in a Cinerama theater when it was first released. It had music playing when you entered the theater, an intermission and you also got a souvenir booklet which I still have.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
The Super 8 Cinerama print I briefly show in the video has all that same introductory/walk-in music and everything else in place. Amazing really given how much those prints cost back in 1980 and essentially you were paying for minutes of black leader with just sound recorded on the stripes. John.
@mrkssk8
@mrkssk8 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a 70mm screening in Karlsruhe two years ago. Jan Harlan, Stanleys executive producer, was there and held a chat, answered some questions to the guests. That was great.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Cor, what a special night that must have been. John.
@Markus_Andrew
@Markus_Andrew 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting video, thank you so much for uploading it!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome Markus. Should be Ad Astra next as that's tonight's Saturday Night At The Movies. John.
@macutmore
@macutmore 4 жыл бұрын
Great insight and a truly fascinating review.
@RobbieSongwriter
@RobbieSongwriter 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. You mentioned only 3 theaters that could still show Cinerama films (in the 70mm version)? I first saw 2001 in the premier run at the Warner Hollywood Theater, which Stanley Kubrik claimed was the finest venue to see his film. The Warner Hollywood is also where I saw my first Cinerama film in the original 3 projector presentation. How The West Was Won was visually and sonically spectacular. Was also the premiere presentation theater for Apocalypse Now, and those helicopter acoustics were amazing in that theater. FYI: Apocalypse Now set a record for the number of playback machines used for a mix - if I remember right, it was around 100 tracks (virtually all of the RCA playback machines at Universal). When I worked at RCA Photophone, they told me that all our machines starting up synced, made a very LOUD "CLUNK" 😳 in the machine room when they hit "PLAY". 😏 Digital has of course, made those 1980s machines museum pieces.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
There are only three Cinerama theatres in the world today Robert: Bradford in England plus the Cineramadome and Seattle in the USA. Apocalypse Now was the first X certificated film (i.e. you had to be 18 which I wasn't!) I ever sneaked in to see and although I was way too young to understand it I thought it looked magnificent. The sound was largely lost on me back then but it sounds better today in my home cinema. I've been asked to review the 4K disc so that sounds like a good excuse to me. You've made me think about the 10cc track 'I'm Not In Love' which looped their voices hundreds of times using tape machines. Seems to be very similar to the work you describe on 'Apocalypse Now'. John.
@danbayley7769
@danbayley7769 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative , thank you. 2001 is one of my top few favourite films ever. Your recent top 10 4K video popped up in my feed, so that's how I found your channel. That video referenced the Pictureville cinema in Bradford, so I've signed up for their email newsletter. So thanks for pointing me there. I don't think I've ever seen any of these large format films natively in a theatre before, except maybe for a couple Nolan's film at the BFI IMAX, but would love to see 2001 in Cinerama. Hopefully I'll get chance to that at the Pictureville now.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 2 жыл бұрын
I hoped I'd make a few people aware of the cinemas still able to screen large format film Dan. In my recent Death on the Nile at the Odeon in 70mm I feature a few of the top West End cinemas towards the end and if you haven't seen that one then you'll see that the Prince Charles on Leicester Place are screening a 70mm print of 2001 A Space Odyssey in April. But if it's on at Bradford on the Cinerama screen in Bradford in October I'll see you there! John.
@stehpengray2084
@stehpengray2084 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the a video and how you put it together I have worked in film and TV productions in the past . Really enjoyed it.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Stephen Grey. What a very nice compliment. John.
@mesonto
@mesonto 3 жыл бұрын
Saw this by fluke, learned so much, fantastic video, thank you!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you James.
@elichilton7031
@elichilton7031 3 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy your well informed video on 2001 A Space Odyssey, and it's varied formats and releases over the years. Thank you. Keep up the good work.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting me know you enjoyed it Eli. John.
@VideoWholesale
@VideoWholesale 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, so glad I found this channel. Thank you.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Max. John.
@robertfaler7081
@robertfaler7081 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff! Thanks for the amazing video!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing comment!
@dickiedocker
@dickiedocker 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video 👌
@jamessalmons9584
@jamessalmons9584 3 жыл бұрын
Really a great video and you have a great setup! Please keep uploading!!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
That's the plan. Thank you James. John.
@johnprudent3216
@johnprudent3216 3 жыл бұрын
Great, insightful, informative yet never really over-my-head with jargon or feel dumbed down.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. I try to keep it all simple and where it's not I hope to fabricate or show the relevant film frames to illustrate what I'm saying. It seems to be working because a lot of people who comment now seem to know quite a lot about film. Mission accomplished l think! John.
@ManCave1972
@ManCave1972 3 жыл бұрын
I must have watched 2001 about thirty times and back in 1994 I watched in a cinema in Stevenage of all places and it was astonishing. The effects stand up today.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
We've all got to get to the Bradford Pictureville next time they screen a 70mm print on the Cinerama screen Darth. A house packed with genuine fans of the film watching it in its original incarnation would be a wonderful experience. John.
@ManCave1972
@ManCave1972 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 I’m here for it 👍🏻
@SidorovichJr
@SidorovichJr 3 жыл бұрын
I was amazed and stunned by its quality while watchin in 4k HDR on oled. Looks better than freaking interstellar, almost
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Interstellar does look great but I was a little disappointed given how good it looks in its true 70mm IMAX form. Something gets a bit lost on the reduction to 4K somehow but I don't know what or how... yet. John.
@desander193
@desander193 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I have about 50 or so 4K discs and this one was the one that really blew me away on my B6 oled and Panasonic ub820
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not the biggest fan of 2001: ASO, as much as I used to be, but I've seen it a dozen times and will probably watch it again. Interstellar, on the other hand... I saw it once, fast-forwarded the last third, and can't be bothered to ever watch it again. Frankly, it was boring, too long... and sucked.
@kierankelleher007
@kierankelleher007 3 жыл бұрын
Top quality video as ever. Your knowledge and love for the medium is staggering.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kieran. Pretty sure I replied to this a week ago but something went wrong. John.
@LLNYRN
@LLNYRN 3 жыл бұрын
Caught this video accidentally on my KZfaq page. I was about 8/9 years old in New York City when My GrandFather took me to see "2001" around the early 70s. That was when older movies were constantly re-released ( I think they were referred to as "Traveling Roadshows" back then). He fell asleep. I sat there totally transfixed to say the least. I then saw it a few years later when it was remastered for 70MM/Dolby during a limited run. Recently had the experience of seeing it again a few years ago twice. Both in 70MM at The Village East and the AMC IMAX (the latter which I was truly praying for) on 68th/Broadway here in NYC. I think I saw it twice in the latter format due to a co-worker wanting to check out that theater. I do own the 4K released. I've had it since last November (Amazon had a $9.99 sale of 4Ks that month). But haven't opened it. I've been so used to seeing it on larger screens over the decades that unless a few friends come over and are interested, I guess it's just going to stay unopened. LOL Thanks for this GREAT Video. Side Note... I hope due to The Pandemic, Studios and Theater Chains realized that if they want the movie-going public to return en masse, They are going to have to step up in regards to film presentation. Epic films need to be seen on the largest screens possible. Not little multi-plex auditoriums. Thanks again.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I have been saying that cinemas need to get together and organize 70mm festivals to get people back into the habit of going to the cinema. Video projection is fabulous now but there's nothing like a large format film. Thank you for sharing your wonderful memories of seeing 2001 A Space Odyssey. There's a documentary to be made just interviewing sensible people who can relate stories like yours of 2001. John.
@luckykennedy7364
@luckykennedy7364 3 жыл бұрын
It was shot and 70 mm and 70 mm is often rendered at 4K when converted to digital so I’ve heard.Hello that the early 2001 dvd release and it looks fantastic for 2001 the year
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment Jacob. 4K is not considered to be up to 35mm quality but I think the clarity that is achieved with modern mastering means there is little or no perceptible difference but that may depend on the size of the screen. 70mm is about five times the quality of 35mm but I've been looking at 4K vs. 2K recently and on our small home screens it is often impossible to tell the difference. HDR is the obvious advantage with 4K but if you turn that off and compare a Blu-ray to a UHD Blu-ray I reckon you need a screen getting on for 20ft wide before you stand a chance to tell which is which. The same is probably true with 35mm and 70mm but as 70mm was intended for massive screens back in its heyday I think it would only be immediately perceptible how much better it is than 35mm on screens in excess of 40 or 50ft. At the Waterloo IMAX (one of only 3 genuine IMAX theatres in England) the screen is 90ft wide and having seen 2K video there blown up to fill the screen it is patently obvious how superior 70mm film is to that. I don't think I've ever seen a 4K video projection there because after that 2K fiasco I have always ensured they are screening a horizontal 70mm IMAX print before going.
@luckykennedy7364
@luckykennedy7364 3 жыл бұрын
Movie Collector I have been looking into getting a 4K system but given my present in income of $0.00 due to school I’ve put it off for a bit.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@luckykennedy7364 That' s probably a good idea... leave it till next week!
@luckykennedy7364
@luckykennedy7364 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 I'll try
@Mr_Kenneth
@Mr_Kenneth 3 жыл бұрын
At the time, 2001 must have been mind-blowing with its incredible effects that hold up today. I always speed past the primates and get to the Pan Am space shuttle!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Ken, I think many of the comments with reports on when they first saw the film upon its original release have confirmed that it made a lasting impression on so many people. I was too young at the time and didn't see it but as the years have gone by I appreciate this film more and more. I too used to scoot through to the space shuttle sequence - that was easy with Super 8 as I put the opening primate sequence on reel 1 and then the rest of the film on two large spools. Still have it that way today. John.
@Ofinfinitejest
@Ofinfinitejest 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe some of the comments I see on KZfaq. The entire Australopithecus sequence is story brilliantly told in visuals and sound and music, of a species in starvation, under threat of predation, then inspired with the first conceptual thought, then overcoming fears and in command of their survival, and using their new conceptual thinking to dominate another tribe and take charge of their destiny. Kubrick once said of the film, that people who won't believe their eyes won't appreciate or understand this film.
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 2 жыл бұрын
​@@moviecollector5920 In 1968, the film, and the stargate sequence, was popular with stoners. I kid you not.
@nacthenud
@nacthenud 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos always offer a unique perspective and historical discussion that is fascinating to watch.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words always nacthenud. I do have another video to get done but right now I'm tied up on a disc release that is taking all my waking hours. Might be able to take a break from that in a few days and then I'll finally get this Phantasm retrospective done. I also have everything in my head for the 4K vs. 2K now that I think I fully understand what is going on there.
@nacthenud
@nacthenud 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it!
@dunndiddeli2067
@dunndiddeli2067 3 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves waaay more subscribers. The best movie channel on KZfaq!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir! About three months ago I had 708 subscribers so it's not been going too badly lately. John.
@MrBuc128
@MrBuc128 4 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy your reviews and I would love to hear your thoughts on the 4K Lawrence of Arabia disc
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
I'll have to run the Blu-ray of that one for a refresher of how good that is. Some of these titles are exceptional on 2K and not obviously better in 4K... well, in my opinion. I think some of them need to be projected on identical equipment simultaneously to tell but if they're that close then maybe there is no point in re-purchasing a film when a 4K version comes out. Terminator Dark Fate is the obvious title that springs to mind there because I felt that the 2K surpassed the 4K in the darker sequences. Now that I think about it, isn't Lawrence of Arabia 4K only available in the new Columbia box for £100 at the moment?
@reviewgodusa9613
@reviewgodusa9613 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 yes it is but its worth it. it looks amazing and you can clearly see each individual grain in the film unlike the blu ray. HDR is great as well. I think the main benefit of 4K for older movies is the higher bitrate which allows you to make out more grain therefore giving it a more filmic look.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@reviewgodusa9613 Very well said. It's great to have people like yourself commenting on here with such a good understanding of it all. John.
@captainhaire
@captainhaire 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 fascinating. At what point can we not differentiate one resolution from another?
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainhaire Once we have a 20 foot wide screen I think. Something like that anyway. Even then it may be difficult or impossible with some releases but unless we can resurrect the British Film Collectors Convention I don't think we're likely to find out. That screen you see in the 2001 video with myself and my colleague/boss at the projector with the Super 8 print of 2001 being projected is 24 feet wide. If we can get a 4K video projector to display the different discs at a BFCC on that screen we could be onto something. Finding a new venue is going to be the difficult part once this pesky virus is consigned to the history books. John.
@propman3523
@propman3523 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Todd AO after Michael Todd, Elizabeth Taylor's husband, not TOD-AO..
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
It was. Must have been a typo. Sorry about that. John.
@Qboro66
@Qboro66 3 жыл бұрын
And the American Optical Co.
@arielalaniz6057
@arielalaniz6057 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome short documentary! Thank you for all your research and time.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying so Ariel. Much appreciated.
@TK42138
@TK42138 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. I remember when BBC2 premiered it on New Years Day, 1982. On our tv it was like watching it through a tank view port due to the black bars. Just glad BBC didn't pan and scan it to fit 4:3 tv's at the time. Since then have seen a 35mm print of it at the cinema back in the late 90's but one day hope to see a proper 70mm or Cinerama version.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 Жыл бұрын
The Prince Charles cinema just off Leicester Square may have a 70mm print as they have screened it many times. We should both be keeping an eye on their web site as they project a lot of film and not that video projection tosh! John.
@24secondsperframe68
@24secondsperframe68 3 жыл бұрын
I studied in Bradford during the 90s and caught 2001' in single strip cinerama whilst there. Pictureville was such a luxury to have on the doorstep. They did all nighter's and marathons quite regularly. Saw a 70mm print of The Thing and Apocalypse Now as well. In fact I might just move back up there...
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'll be next door! John.
@Celestialrob
@Celestialrob 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve visited the Cineramadome in LA and seen 2001 at the annual 70mm festival at the then worlds largest cinema - Kinepolis in Brussels. Great overview, thanks.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Well you should have taken me with you on both occasions Robert!!!
@Celestialrob
@Celestialrob 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 it would have been more fun for sure!
@CraftyOldGit
@CraftyOldGit 3 жыл бұрын
My father took me to see 2001 A Space Odyssey on general release. We went to the Odeon in Woking, Surrey. I would have been 1; a bit young to appreciate the film, but I still remember being amazed by the special effects.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
A treasured memory Mike and thank you for sharing it with me. John.
@rationalthought846
@rationalthought846 5 ай бұрын
I have watched this 4k disc several times and am stunned each time. I watched it on a 77"OLED with a good sound system and it is amazing... the contrast and clarity is something to behold. Very enjoyable- brings back the wonder I first experienced when I was four and watched this opening night with intermission in Manhattan. For watching at home this is as close as you can get to a 70mm theatre.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 5 ай бұрын
Unless you have a 70mm print and the projector to run it at home perhaps? A good friend has an original 35mm print but that has faded a little. The point is, the prints are still out there... some of them anyway. John.
@LaughMuBai
@LaughMuBai 9 ай бұрын
Working my way through all your reviews and this one was the most technical yet, with fantastic detail and amazing knowledge along with being very well presented. I'm going to get this one to show friends and try to present some of the knowledge I've learned from you in a pre screening... 😬
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 9 ай бұрын
If you don't also have Murder on the Orient Express then that is about as a 4K disc (or Blu-ray and probably DVD too) can come. On my latest projector I think TENET and DUNKIRK are even better but that didn't appear to be the case on the earlier 4K projector. All equipment varies but irrespective of that, because all these titles were either 70mm releases or IMAX 15/70 releases that is why they're the best. Nothing else comes close... yet. John.
@LaughMuBai
@LaughMuBai 9 ай бұрын
@moviecollector5920 Murder on the Orient Express was very good and worth extra viewings, Tenet is trying too hard to be an Inception IMO. So, as I'm only upgrading DVD's to 4K that I'll watch again and have good reviews like yours, I'll give the later a miss... 😅
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 9 ай бұрын
@@LaughMuBai Funnily enough, I don't much like INCEPTION... but don't tell anyone! John.
@sunspot42
@sunspot42 3 жыл бұрын
I saw it in 70mm at the now departed Northpoint theater in San Francisco in the late '90s, which was a spectacular experience, and again at the Motion Picture Academy's Samuel Goldwyn theater in Beverly Hills at a special screening event in April of 2008, hosted by Tom Hanks, with Doug Trumbull, Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood and special guest Buzz Aldrin. It was great to see it again in such a flawless theater with an incredible roster of guests - Angie Dickenson sat a couple of rows in front of us, which made the whole evening even more of a flashback to the late '60s.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Cor blimey sunspot42! What a treasured memory and a night that can surely never be surpassed. I met and spoke to Gary Lockwood over here when he first published his autobiography but I think that's my only claim to fame with all things 2001. John.
@dextertheragdollcat213
@dextertheragdollcat213 3 жыл бұрын
Another fabulous video John. I'm absolutely loving your presentations, so informative and right up my alley, growing up on a diet of super 8 and 16mm and now digital media.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
What no 35mm? Well, we'll have to get that sorted! John.
@lordhumungus9993
@lordhumungus9993 3 жыл бұрын
As a newbie I was glad to stumble upon your Chanel. You have a home theatre and presumably a Bio Box I might be jumping the gun but incorporating some shots of your projects would be great. Best regards.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what a Bio Box is Lord Humungus. Also, by shots of my projects do you mean the videos being edited in the software I use? John.
@jasonharrop5309
@jasonharrop5309 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my name is Jason I watch KZfaq a lot And today I have just come along your channel. Brilliant Fantastic Wonderful It's so nice and so good to see someone like yourself that talks and knows about film Hope to see more of your films on here. And I have a big film collection myself and just getting in 4K Enjoying what I have seen from the channel today 🙏👌👍🙂
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice of you to say so Jason. I'm going to be reviewing the 4K of John Carpenter's Prince Of Darkness soon as that is one 4K disc that is perceptibly better than the 2K Blu-ray. Also, I'm working on a Christmas Movie Recommendations on 4K, Blu-ray, DVD, Laser Disc and Super 8. So I hope there's something among all that that you'll find interesting. Each one is also a good excuse to include film projectors again cos' they're just so interesting to look at with the reels turning around. John.
@jasonharrop5309
@jasonharrop5309 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 am just getting into 4k myself after getting everything on Blu-ray over the years. I have just got myself a 4k ultra blu-ray player and a 43 inch 4k tv And I have just been blow away by what am hearing and seeing I would so love to keep watching and following more of your KZfaq channel Yours Jason 🙏👌👍
@DubiousConsumption
@DubiousConsumption 3 жыл бұрын
I first got into HD with HD-DVD. The first TV I had was a CRT Hi Def 34". It took watching 2001 on it to finally appreciate and understand why the HD new formats were worth owning. Glad to see its quality has moved forward into the 4K version.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
It's a cracking 4K Dubious Consumption (great ID!) but the even better news is that some discs are even more impressive than 2001. Turning out to be a great format though these UHD discs. John.
@Tlducken
@Tlducken 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I got to see this at the Cinerama in Seattle before it closed down. Fingers crossed that it isn't closed permanently.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I hope not. The Seattle Cinerama is only one of three in the world. John.
@Greinkus
@Greinkus 3 жыл бұрын
March of 2019 I had the privilege of a lifetime of seeing "2001 A Space Odyssey" at Milwaukee's Oriental Theater in 70mm... It was excellent and the experience reset my baseline on what quality to expect when watching it again and again... I haven't picked up the new 4k disc release yet, but I have been enjoying 2001 in 4k (supposedly) via HBO Max and my usual Blu-Ray disc with my modest home theater... This review was insightful and quite informative... I've happily subscribed to the KZfaq channel for more reviews... Bravo! Encore!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Art. And for your James Bond suggestion which is another series I love. Not many people agree with me that Timothy Dalton was the best but I like Daniel Craig almost as much. John.
@Greinkus
@Greinkus 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 (ha-ha). Yes; absolutely, Dalton was terrific for his two! Brosnan had Goldeneye and the series went into free-cell after that (IMHO)... I didn't think a "blonde Bond" would do well, but I have been impressed with the series of films that he's done, rating very closely to Connery's originals! BTW, OHMSS was the best script and one that I think that would benefit from an update...
@Greinkus
@Greinkus 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 that's " free-fall"... (spell check gone rogue)
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@Greinkus I need to take another look at George Lazenby in OHMSS. My father thinks he was the Bond most like how he envisioned him when he ready the Fleming novels. I think Brosnan's best was Tomorrow Never Dies. John.
@Greinkus
@Greinkus 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 I would opine that Lazenby wanted the part more than anything before production and wanted it least by the time of promotion... I believe that it was the ways movies were made in the day, with the original EON production team and their Circus background... Things have become much more "cinematic" with the second EON generation... (I have 14 years of professional circus experience and I can recognize the m.o. - ha-ha...) Kubrick, Beatles and Bond have been great teachers by example for my career work...
@dansmith7194
@dansmith7194 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. And by the way, awesome shot of "Heather?" from Highlander in background of your studio.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dan.
@RichardCyberPunk
@RichardCyberPunk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this very indepth analyses. I bought the 2001 4K special version today. I am only a poor guy with a PS5 and a Sony 4K Tv. So, sadly no expensive home cinema set. But I adore and love all movie lovers / experts. Greetings from the Netherlands
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 8 ай бұрын
That disc will look good on everything Richard. It's not the best 4K home video ever issued but it's not too far off owing to its origins. Have a great time with it. John.
@ronz101
@ronz101 9 ай бұрын
Still an "Old School" Cinerama fancier here however your appreciation and knowledge of all film stock earn you....⭐⭐⭐⭐🌟 Thanks.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 9 ай бұрын
Jolly nice of you to say Ron. Thank you. John.
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies 3 жыл бұрын
I first saw 2001 with my Dad, at age 10, in 1975, on the big 70mm wide screen Cinerama. It totally blew my little mind!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful story. So many people have told us of their first time of seeing 2001 on here and so many were actually at a Cinerama theatre. Amazing. And analogue sound too! John.
@MrGeoffHilton
@MrGeoffHilton 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, I never realised 2001 wasn't actually cinerama, so I have learnt a lot from the video.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Geoff. John.
@greatpix
@greatpix 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 2001 the week it came out, at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. I sat in the front row, aisle seat where all you see is the floor sloping up to the screen. Fantastic experience.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
What a treasured memory that must be Robert. And now here were are more than fifty years later and the film has a greater reputation than ever and you can even get the chance to see it occasionally at the Cineramadome again if you want to. Quite amazing really. John.
@johnn.4407
@johnn.4407 3 жыл бұрын
I wish modern movies could be so visionary and cutting edge and such great spectacle and story telling.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But 'Interstellar' was out there. John.
@jdastro
@jdastro Жыл бұрын
Loved the video. I first saw 2001 at the Winsdor Cinerama in Houston, Tx., in 1966 or so. Next at a drive-in im 1969, and at other times in other formats. I have dvd, 16x9 , and recently picked up a blu-ray copy for US$3 at a Gooswill shop. My home cinema uses a 120" image on a white wall, and a 1080p Otima projector. Not much invested....lol. I am still collecting 1080p disks for now, 3D versions prefered. Your equipment is light years ahead of mine, but enjoy your videos anyway!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 Жыл бұрын
When my channel suddenly exploded in popularity after I uploaded the 'Alien' video, this 2001 video suddenly took off and I could hardly keep up with all the comments. But what came out of it all was the realization that so many people had stories to tell about when they first saw 2001 A Space Odyssey and how it affected them. I would like to make a documentary with a load of people like yourself telling your stories Jim but how to make it pay would be the stumbling block. I have kept it in mind for the past [almost] two years and if there is ever a special Cinerama presentation in Bradford that I could get full access to then that would probably be the place to do it if enough people came along who had already agreed to appear on camera. As for your home cinema setup, it sounds pretty darned wonderful to me. I think most would be better off with an HD video projector than a telly if they can't afford a 4K projector. They start at about £800 here now so not quite so expensive as many think but surprisingly good - excellent actually - for an entry level machine. John.
@jdastro
@jdastro Жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 Good idea! I might just go ahead and record my story just in case! Pity I tossed out the brochure I got at the cinerama showing. Kept it for about 30 years but didn't treat it well. My bluray copy is 16:9, 2.2:1 which is confusing. I started watching it last week which is why I noticed your video. Color is good, but something is missing. I'm working on improving the sound system which is only stereo for now.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 Жыл бұрын
@@jdastro 2.20:1 is the correct aspect ratio I think Jim as 2001 was a 65mm shoot for 70mm release. The 4K has better colour and density owing to High Dynamic Range but the Blu-ray is still excellent. As for the sound, stereo can be all most need but we tend to get hung up on getting the latest kit when a lot of the time the money would be better spent on a decent amplifier and good stereo speakers. If you already have both of those things perhaps the first thing to add is a good (i.e. big and powerful) subwoofer as that makes the biggest noticeable difference to sound quality. I don't so much care about how many separate channels there are now but that's probably because my THX Pioneer/Kef system sounds so beautiful, if that's the right word. John.
@irishgreenslawncare
@irishgreenslawncare 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a little vid about vintage movie film stock sizes/formats for us less informed folks? Loving your informative videos.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
A few people have asked for that so I'll try to include more information along those lines. John.
@troop73oo
@troop73oo 3 жыл бұрын
Just came across this channel by accident. Speaking as a cinema enthusiast and technophile I really enjoyed this video.Big thumbs up and a new subscriber.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jake. Pleased to have you with me. Ad Astra in 4K should be next. John.
@FreedomFighterUSA76
@FreedomFighterUSA76 3 жыл бұрын
You have a great channel. Just found it recently. Great job!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Albert. Might be an Ad Astra review next which we'll be giving a spin on Saturday night. Yes, we really do have Saturday Night At The Movies in this house every week. John.
@richbuxo
@richbuxo 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, one of the best memories I have of my brother was his love for this film, looking forward on purchasing the 4K version one day soon.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Your brother had top-notch taste in films Rich! When you do get the 4K disc of 2001 A Space Odyssey you'll have to raise a cup of tea to your brother. Maybe a biccie too! John.
@newcamnoddy
@newcamnoddy 2 жыл бұрын
Great reviews as ever....I saw a 70mm print at the Pictureville Cinema in Bradford around 2009..and it was stunning..a packed cinema on the beautiful curved screen...seating was a little uncomfortable but the visual quality and presentation by the projection team was outstanding :)
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 2 жыл бұрын
I hope to get to Bradford to see 2001 on the curved screen. This pandemic has meant I'm no longer travelling the country every couple of weeks to get interviews for documentaries so unless all that miraculously comes back to life I'll have the time to be able to get to next year's festival in October. John.
@badgastein2
@badgastein2 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a professional and considered presentation.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice of you to say. The next video is almost done so up in the next day or two. Just a little tied up with a new disc release right now.
@lefkosaftonomos1536
@lefkosaftonomos1536 3 жыл бұрын
Saw 2001 at its initial release on Cinerama screen at the Indian Hills Cinerama theater in Omaha, NE. To this day, unforgettable. Sadly, the purpose built Indian Hills Cinerama theater was torn down to put up a parking lot.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Lefkos, I could make a documentary of all of you that have posted on here that actually saw 2001 upon its original release. It's quite amazing the memories people have for this film. We're losing cinemas in central London at an increasing rate in recent years. Soon people might start to notice but I don't think the virus has helped with the situation. John.
@mygad
@mygad 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet video. Love to see some quality, knowledgeable discussion about movie videos to inform my future purchases.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gilbert. John.
@MrAnswerification
@MrAnswerification 3 жыл бұрын
The original 1974 Murder on the Orient Express was shot by 2001's cinematographer.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Another film I need to re-visit. The follow-up Death on the Nile (1978) is one of my all-time favourites. John.
@JesusMartinez-mk6fc
@JesusMartinez-mk6fc 3 жыл бұрын
First time I watch a video from this YT channel. Perhaps no better film title to grab my attention than 2001 SO. You're quite an expert in film technology. Very interesting video with an impressive knowledge on the technical aspects of the source material. I'm glad I picked-up 2001 on 4K Blu-ray on sale at Amazon.ca for $16 CAD. One of the few film titles that I've purchased in every format from VHS to 4K Blu-ray except for Laserdisc that I never got into. Subscribed!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesus. Glad to have you with me. John.
@danboy77
@danboy77 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! Thankyou. I’m on the verge of purchasing a Projector and big screen for my garden outbuilding myself , very excited as this is something i have always wanted. My Projector will have Lens Memory, can’t decide between a Scope & 16.9 screen. Please keep the reviews coming, absolutely love them👍🏼
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
Don't bother with a screen Danny if you have a flat wall you can simply paint in. The only reasons a screen is ever a necessary purchase is firstly if the speakers are going to be hidden behind or the there is not a flat surface to paint white with a black border. Ideally the projected image needs black masking all around the picture area as this fools the eye into thinking the contrast ratio is higher. It also hides any white areas which can be a little distracting. The video age hasn't really switched onto this yet but my background is film and it was always well known. My video projector is an Optoma UHD550X. I put a review up a few years ago but ignore the business about HDR and just put up with the few discs that generate digital banding: www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj9wZXcjLfqAhVTT8AKHSJrApAQtwIwAHoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLnJF4bNvu4E&usg=AOvVaw2VbWXi1uTUnJKOSLW5sOYi
@danboy77
@danboy77 4 жыл бұрын
I’m really thinking Projecting onto my wall now which currently is a dark shade of grey which I’ve been told should still give a decent image. If I do go the Wall route it means I can have a 98” 4:3 image and a 130” 2.35:1 on Lens Memory, which would be amazing
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
@@danboy77 Brilliant white emulsion is all you'll need Danny but a black surround will finish it off nicely. If your 4x3 image will be the same height as 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 then side masking is all you'll need. Mine is a simple corded curtain rail attached to a curtain motor. If you can set it all up so that the projector goes wider for 1.85:1 but not all the way and then all the way for 2.35:1 that is exactly how the best cinemas operate. But it is nice to have a 1.85:1 as wide as possible and maximum height. Moving top and bottom masking is ideal then and that's why I have it. It runs off a roller blind via another curtain motor. Simples!
@danboy77
@danboy77 4 жыл бұрын
A 120” 16x9 will give me a 98” 4x3. Then I can use the Lens Memory for the 2.35:1 image. Didn’t take the Masking into consideration as this is all new to me, maybe that’s something I can tackle at a later date
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 4 жыл бұрын
@@danboy77 Take a look at a corded curtain rail and think of the curtains as black masking. Pull the cord to open the masking out to the size you need to envelope the projected image. It took me a while to work it all out but ended up being surprisingly easy. The mechanisation of it all seemed obvious once I had all the masking and curtains in place.
@deanodley
@deanodley 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, you obviously have a real passion for cinema and a wealth of knowledge to go with it. Very enjoyable.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. GuitarGarner. I've had a lifelong love of motion picture film since the age of three. John.
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697 Жыл бұрын
saw an imax version a few years ago it was incredible and in 4K and great review as always mate John
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 Жыл бұрын
We all need to see 2001 A Space Odyssey as a genuine 70mm film print at least once in our lives Andrew. On a huge deeply curved screen a la Cinerama would be preferable too. John.
@craigrussell3062
@craigrussell3062 3 жыл бұрын
Kubrick's films are all so magnificently constructed audiovisual experiences. I'd love you to do a video on the 4K of The Shining.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
I do have the 4K of The Shining Craig but it's not the most impressive disc I've seen. I also think the film has a few too many flaws but it certainly has style with the early use of 'Panaglide' or 'Steadicam' as it may have been known by then. John.
@rmcdowell64
@rmcdowell64 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it at an Imax theatre in Tokyo a couple of years ago. Absolutely breathtaking. Definitely one of the films that benefits from being on the biggest screen in the highest quality possible.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Well said Bagh. John.
@fredrikekholm3718
@fredrikekholm3718 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and enjoyable review! One thing that I don't understand though is the Cinerama curved screen. Is this an artifact of the three-projector setup or is this something desirable? I get the impression from the review (maybe I'm misunderstanding though) that the curved screen is a good thing, but I can't see the benefit of having it not follow the exact dimensions of the film. Can someone explain this to me?
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
That is all rather complicated Fredrik. Basically the single projector Cinerama used a special lens to curve the image onto the screen and reproduce the original three projector impression. Films varied in success but if you analyze 2001 you will see some shots were taken through lenses almost like modern action cameras where the image curves. A Cinerama look for sure. The curved screen is designed to replicate the human eye field of view so get along to one of the three remaining Cinerama theatres (Bradford in Endland, Cineraadome in Los Angeles and the third in Seattle) when they are screening 2001 and you should enjoy a life changing experience. I plan to get to Bradford as soon as we're allowed and it's on there. John.
@raydionangy
@raydionangy 3 жыл бұрын
I first saw this film when I was only 9. I was mesmerized by it's imagery and still am. One of only a handful of films (and I've rated nearly 2000) that I give 10/10. A true milestone in cinema, even if no one understands the ending!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Let me explain the ending... then again, maybe not. Agree with your ten out of ten there Raydio. I never tire of watching it. John.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a 9/10 for not having mass appeal. Just a very small nick from a mere masterpiece, compared to an all around masterpiece.
@loekegaard9
@loekegaard9 3 жыл бұрын
Your home theather is out of this world - like something out of the dimension Dave Bowman travels to in the third act of 2001. This is an informative and engaging video, excellent. You know your stuff ... I can tell (I was privileged to work as a 35mm projectionist the final year before this art form was taken out of commercial theaters, 2010-2011). I would love to see you review the Blu-ray for the 70mm film Baraka (it is not released on 4K UHD Blu-ray, as far as I know).
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roder. I haven't seen Baraka but you're not the first person to recommend it to me. It's on the list. I'm hoping that the film industry will realize they need something to entice people back to cinemas and 70mm will be that answer. To that end, we all need to support genuine IMAX 70mm productions and Kenneth Branagh's 70mm 'Death on the Nile' later this year. Maybe I'll see you at the Odeon Leicester Square for that one! John.
@loekegaard9
@loekegaard9 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 I have been fortunate enough to see Baraka on 70mm at the Cinematheque in Oslo (I'm Norwegian); it is the greatest image experience I have ever had in a theater - the 70mm image of this 1992 film is even more impressive than that of 70mm films being made decades later. I will also support Death on the Nile one way or another.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@loekegaard9 My own greatest cinema experience is probably Interstellar at the Waterloo IMAX but I'm hopeful we'll see even better in the future. Maybe a re-release of Baraka will do the trick.
@classiccraig6555
@classiccraig6555 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask, I have the 2007 blu ray release of 2001 a space odyssey, is the new 2018 blu ray release better than the 2007 one because i heard that the 2007 release was scanned from a 35mm while the 2018 was scanned from 70mm. (which will give me better clarity) So do you think i should get the 2018 blu ray or not?
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 2 жыл бұрын
The Blu-ray in the 4K pack is very good Craig but it's not as good as the 4K. If you're like me and you love this film then if you have a few pounds knocking around it would be worth giving it a try. A lot depends on your equipment of course and you may find that having 2001 in this quality will mean you'll have to buy a bigger house so you can install a miniature home cinema and paint in the biggest screen you can fit in!!! Not all of this 4K transfer is from the camera negative but perhaps two-thirds of it is as the rest has turned to dust. It was scanned at 8K if I remember correctly which probably means they'll be able to squeeze more out of the restored/re-created negative in the future as 65mm negative by my estimate is the equivalent of 15K. Having said that, the equipment and the algorithms to compress the information are so much better today. Scanners are probably the main limiting factor and exacerbate film grain so that's an area for future possible improvement. John.
@Some__Rando
@Some__Rando 3 жыл бұрын
The digital transfer is especially good for the HDR color range. During the anniversary run I watched it both in the Cinerama Dome 70mm and also in the Chinese Theater Laser IMAX. Despite my love and support for those who preserve the art of film projection, I gotta say, the Laser IMAX was truly awesome because of the insane contrast between light and darkness in space scenes. It was like being in a planetarium, just totally consumed by space.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thank you Some Rando. John.
@Sdea1903
@Sdea1903 3 жыл бұрын
It is gorgeous, the colours really pop. I was initially a little dissapointed during the opening scenes, thought it wasn't much better than the bluray but when the film takes to space, it is simply stunning.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Good point Sdea1903. It does look even better once we're out in space. John.
@Harani66
@Harani66 3 жыл бұрын
4:31 Is that a three projector setup ? Because there seems to be a bad alignment which is show up by the curvature of the bell nozzle of the spaceship engine.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
I expect that's more the low quality of the trailer I'm projecting on video Glen. 2001 wasn't a three projector film so I think we can rule that cause out. John.
@alexs.1242
@alexs.1242 3 жыл бұрын
Stumbled over this by accident. 2001 is my seminal "it" film. Normally I can't stand these amateurish policy wonk 'I'm smart and you're not' lecture videos, but this really impressed me. Enough to 'like' and subscribe, both. There's a wealth of information here about old film projection processes like Todd AO and Cinerama, but what I really like is Movie Collector's plainspoken evenhandedness. He neither gushes like a fanboy nor carps angrily about every little failing; it's one of the most honest appraisals I've seen, ever, about film exposition. The 4K release only takes up a few minutes of the 10-minute running time, but the background is really useful to know. He doesn't just explain the pros and cons of the 4K - he explains why. That's quite rare with these things. I know a lot about 2001, but Movie Collector added a lot more to my knowledge. Really well done. And, thank you.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Well Alex, if that isn't the best comment I've ever had I don't know which is!!! Thank you. John.
@douggraham5082
@douggraham5082 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Well done.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! John.
@Dude-oh8vq
@Dude-oh8vq 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful film that has stood the test of time. Nice channel BTW!
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dude!!! 2001 seems to get better and gains more respect as the years roll by. John.
@SS-qo4xe
@SS-qo4xe 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 2001 in London at the Cinerama cinema in Leicester Square. Fantastic. Quite a contrast to the life I was living in the East End as a visiting Canadian kid.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I'd have been there too. John.
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 3 жыл бұрын
We're very fortunate to see this film in such quality, as it remains one of the towering pieces of art. A product of genuine care and pure ambition. If only Kubrick had lived to see UHD...He would have had a ball overseeing the transfers of his films.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
And I dare say Kubrick would have taken it to new levels, perhaps insisting on an 8K scan (or more) of this 65mm masterpiece and perhaps some of his 35mm titles too. John.
@thribs
@thribs 3 жыл бұрын
@@moviecollector5920 Apparently before he died he supervised some of his movie transfers to DVD and insisted they be in 4:3 which is interesting.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 3 жыл бұрын
@@thribs My DVD of Eyes Wide Shut is 4x3 but I'm fairly sure it was 4x3 when I saw it at the cinema too.
@marksmadebyrobots
@marksmadebyrobots 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to see 2001 at the Pictureville cinema in Bradford a few years ago - suffice to say it was pretty spectacular. I'm just getting into 4K so this will be one of my next purchases.
@moviecollector5920
@moviecollector5920 2 жыл бұрын
I'll see you at the Pictrueville one of these days Mark. As for 2001 on 4K, you won't be disappointed but bear in mind some of the film has come from a duplicate negative. Subscriber Mike worked at one of the labs and was able to fill us in on a lot of the detail so the 'Dawn of Man' sequence in particular, the whole sequence is from the dupe. But apparently much of the original negative was able to be transferred. 32 prints of Death on the Nile have been struck so see if you can find a cinema screening one of those. I know the Odeon Leicester Square has got one and it opens on 11th Feb. John.
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