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Mr. Symbol Man

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Douglas Crockford

Douglas Crockford

5 жыл бұрын

Charles K. Bliss and Blissymbolics.

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@narsames814
@narsames814 3 жыл бұрын
I came here because of the book "In the land of invented languages"
@Maxwell1901
@Maxwell1901 4 жыл бұрын
The woman at 27:35 teaching John about "The Three Little Pigs" using a Bliss board is my mom!
@kariharrington3875
@kariharrington3875 3 жыл бұрын
I was the one who is playing school with my brother.
@MohammedSalah2405
@MohammedSalah2405 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh amazing
@narsames814
@narsames814 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting!
@marcusgaertner4143
@marcusgaertner4143 3 жыл бұрын
kari, i am just reading a book by austrian author clemens setz, about invented languages, and there‘s your photo and a poem you wrote about your wheelchair.
@Ahjile
@Ahjile 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for sharing this, Doug. Was great to learn about.
@benderrodriquez
@benderrodriquez 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if he had open sourced his symbolic language it might have achieved more success.
@RoyalKnightVIII
@RoyalKnightVIII 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly he instead sued the hospital... He essentially stole thousands of dollars from sick children. I recommend Arika Okrent's in the land of invented Languages to learn more about this sad jerk
@MonZFonti
@MonZFonti 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Bliss. Xie xie ni. Danke schön. Merci beaucoup. Terima kasih. Salamat po.
@RoyalKnightVIII
@RoyalKnightVIII 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame he ended up suing the hospital :(
@jacquesduplessis2142
@jacquesduplessis2142 3 жыл бұрын
A great dreamer with the exact same idea I have had for many years. It remains a wonderful idea to pursue. But it has to be free of "copyright" -- a sad mistake he made.
@benderrodriquez
@benderrodriquez 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that many people subscribe to the idea that the cause of conflict is that people do not understand or misunderstand each other. I believe the truth might just be the polar opposite!
@c.t.d.r.a.8295
@c.t.d.r.a.8295 4 жыл бұрын
Ray Maritz how come?
@MatthewMcVeagh
@MatthewMcVeagh 3 жыл бұрын
It's been a common idea right through the history of auxiliary language. Zamenhof, creator of Esperanto, certainly had it, and hence many of his followers. I think Schleyer had it even earlier with Volapuk.
@timsolnze7300
@timsolnze7300 4 жыл бұрын
So I didn't find the basics symbols anywhere. I looked at an Official Website and there's nothing.
@CidRuiz86
@CidRuiz86 3 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for Bliss's course, search for Semantography-Blissymbolics. That site will give you access to most of his publications, except the big tome. You can get the big tome (called Semantography) at the Soltech designs website. Blissymbolics.org is the official site now, run in part by the people Bliss failed to defeat. They ignore some of Bliss's requests, and I find it to be petty (especially his issue with line thickness). Even so, they have an excellent introductory video in their workshop made by Prof. Jennische from Uppsala University (And president of BCI). I would praise them more, if only they weren't so secretive about how to be involved in the project. Going back to Mr. Bliss, after reading through most of his published material (even the 800+ page book) looking for the basic Bliss symbols, I can tell you that not even Mr. Bliss had a grasp on those. Twice in his correspondence courses and twice again in his book he has a section called "The 100 Symbol Elements of Semantography", where he claims the first 10 are the digits we use today, and then he lists a few of his most common symbols (He makes it to 16 in the correspondence course, 57 on his book), and then he goes off on a tangent on how people use propaganda to kill innocent people, and never goes back to listing the rest of the symbols. Are there 100 basic symbols? Yes, there are, but after 50 or so, you realize that the rest of them are meaningless strokes that must be overlapped on each other to make a coherent symbol. You can see all the symbols on his diagrams that attempt to patent a keyboard layout and a plastic stencil for use in writing. In all, there may be even close to 3000 official symbols, if you count the complex overlapping symbols (like the Blissymbol for dolphin). If you delve into his work and take notes, you'll get a thorough understanding of his system. But it takes too much effort, honestly, to comb content out from his superfluous writing. If he had kept the conversation he wants to have with his audience separate from his work, it would be much, much more digestible.
@CeoLogJM
@CeoLogJM 2 жыл бұрын
@@CidRuiz86 Thank you so much for adding this context! this comment has probably saved me days of further searching. I find it strange that it seems like pasigraphies are such a rare and weird concept, to the point that no one online has created something simple and open to the public that wants to experiment with it.
@narsames814
@narsames814 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel bad for him
@CaptainWumbo
@CaptainWumbo 5 жыл бұрын
2 minutes in but it looks like he invented Chinese, a language famously impenetrable because of the up front tedious work needed to become literate. Oh, I guess he wanted to create a purely semantic writing system, to address the problems with parts of Chinese referring only to sound.
@MatthewMcVeagh
@MatthewMcVeagh 3 жыл бұрын
Hardly. 'Chinese' is not essentially a written language, but a group of spoken languages that use the same writing system. Blissymbolics is a pasigraphy, a writing-only language with no spoken version. He *was* inspired and influenced by the Chinese writing system, but only by misunderstanding it, just as Leibniz did in the 17th century. He took it to be directly ideographic, whereas actually it's not only logographic but partly phonographic as well.
@keplerianaz
@keplerianaz 2 жыл бұрын
He was influenced by Chinese ideograms.
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