How to fix steering wheel play

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Here's the adhesive you are going to need to perform this fix: amzn.to/2qo3gw7
Here's how to fix a loose, sloppy or steering wheel with excessive play in case that the cause of the problem is in your steering shaft.
In my last video I have shown you how to rebuild your steering rack and get rid of steering play in case the rack is the cause.
Here's that video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/armiqr1omLe-g4E.html
This time we are looking at the steering shaft.
The steering shaft actually has rubber sandwiched between two of its parts. The task of this rubber is to absorb vibrations picked up by your wheels and transferred through your rack to your steering wheel. Unfortunately as your car ages this rubber deteriorates and causes steering wheel play.
The problem is that there is not replacement part for the rubber and you need to buy the entire steering shaft. This of course is not sensible. Many car owners resort to welding the two parts of the shaft together, but this results in a lot of vibrations in your steering wheel.
The solution I have used is to remove the lower part of the steering shaft, clean it up with a wire wheel and then add some new rubber to the shaft. I have used windshield adhesive which is very durable and stiff so its and ideal replacement for the rubber in the steering wheel shaft. Many people use 3M window weld, but any windshield adhesive will work fine.
Once the windshield adhesive cures completely your steering wheel will be play free and good as new.
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@d4a 4 жыл бұрын

Here's the adhesive you are going to need to perform this fix: amzn.to/2qo3gw7

@diesistkeinname795 4 жыл бұрын

Since many other MR2 drivers are watching this: In case of the MK3 the lower universal joint of the steering column is usualy at fault. It sits unprotected down there at the steering rack, exposed to the elements. If you own a MK3 and you have excessive play or friction in your steering, it is corroded and you will need to replace it. If it hasn't gone bad, grease it to prevent corrosion and keep it going for years to come.

@jalins6 3 жыл бұрын

That was an outstanding explanation. I am a mechanic with nearly 30 years experience and I actually learned something today. More importantly though it was explained in a concise and easy to understand way so that anyone could do it, experienced mechanic or not.

@jerrygraves6531 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually cool that you're still willing to learn

@jalins6 2 жыл бұрын

Oh by the way, this worked perfectly on my 1987 Celica GT-S. I know you used your MR-2 as an example, but it’s exactly the same on my Celica. I don’t know if you already knew that.

@RonVanDam33 2 жыл бұрын

Alright so, Someone tried to steal my truck and damaged the ignition. My dad says it the steering column that’s damaged. Is it fixable?

@jalins6 2 жыл бұрын

@@RonVanDam33 The older the truck is, the more likely it is easily fixable. The newer the truck is the harder it would be to fix it, but not impossible. If it's truly the steering column, it will be labor intensive and will likely also require a wheel alignment, but it can be done.

@GlycerinZ 6 ай бұрын

agreed, I've found many people to think they know everything. Learning is a lifelong process.@@jerrygraves6531

@GoddamnHikari 10 ай бұрын

I hadn't even realized I had this issue on my aw11. It has completely revolutionized how my steering feels. thank you D4A. You're a legend.

@RA-uj3nm 4 жыл бұрын

Just did this a couple days ago in my 87. Awesome results!!! No longer scarey to drive on the freeway. Thanks for the tutorial.

@vanboschmichael 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, just curious to know how the windshield adhesive has held up a year later?

@tomasrodrigo3807 2 жыл бұрын

@@vanboschmichael seems like it failed and OP crashed.

@siyabongankosi3150 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@RA-uj3nm Жыл бұрын

3 years later, I run into this again......😆. It's still working perfectly. 👍👍

@bglove4882 4 жыл бұрын

Really good instructions. Easy to follow his explanations. Thanks friend.

@catslife5501 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I know this is quite an old video but it is a great help for me. I have a 30 year old Ford Bantam in South Africa and will be doing this repair. Thanks you so much.

@dantelee224 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative. Thanks for taking your time and actually breaking down the why

@pce0513 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have an sw20 with minor steering wheel play but a rebuilt rack so I'll be sure to check this out next, cheers.

@yannb1622 6 жыл бұрын

Well found ! I really like your videos, very instructive

@jhuntosgarage 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent topic. Thanks for sharing!

@DaveMaharaj 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, very informative and well explained.

@JeffReeves 6 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I need to fix my steering wheel play once and for all. I think I'll tackle this project sometime this Winter.

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

+Jeff Reeves Good luck :) Hope the video is useful. It's an easy job really.

@JackMeyHoffer562 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, never thought of checking this. I thought I had bad rack and pinion bushings, I'll check this first. Thank you!

@MattJonesYT 4 жыл бұрын

Window weld is also great for stiffening up motor mounts to prevent torque steer.

@mangomcpoo475 3 жыл бұрын

Us 60 series Landcruiser owners: "You call THAT play?!!"

@d4a 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣😂

@SWAGCOWVIDEO 4 жыл бұрын

I recently rebuilt the front suspension in my Fiero, and now it has this same problem. I never thought to look passed the steering rack though.

@pawpawbandit3871 5 жыл бұрын

great lesson!

@RockyNerd 3 жыл бұрын

Greatly appreciate your time and information!

@rudi3mz 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the good ideas

@chanhducphung2826 5 жыл бұрын

Thank so much for your great details video

@ImTheWeapMaster 6 жыл бұрын

Very useful video! I've read about it but didn't know it was this easy...

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

Koen Beckers It really is a half hour job and makes a big difference.

@bobbondarul7448 Жыл бұрын

Nice. This is my next problem to solve on a caddy 2012. Last night the steering wheel started to move by itself for a couple a seconds Thank you

@kenselleck2414 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video as usual!

@humanmale4610 4 жыл бұрын

Good video...easy to understand....thx.

@NathanClevenger1337 Жыл бұрын

This isn't what my issue is, but this solution to THAT problem is pretty good! Way better than welding it as you've described why not to.

@samkara1271 5 жыл бұрын

Great video.. thanks for sharing..

@fd9431 2 жыл бұрын

Video is good to go. Thank you for posting.

@highwinds71 5 жыл бұрын

Well that looks easy enough to do . Thanks for making this video

@neil_digital 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video

@isonovoso8312 5 жыл бұрын

Great Job!

@JTNaise 4 жыл бұрын

Halo mate, I got a question for ya. I have replace sets of rack end, tie rod, steering rack bush & lower arm. Then it kinda solve the free play issue for a bit. Later, when I took a hard turn left and back on straight road, the steering wheel noticeably unalign to the right. Then when I took a hard turn right, the steering wheel become straight back to normal. What could be the problem. A bad rack or the shaft bush like you have said.

@halleplayz775 24 күн бұрын

Super intuitive thanks

@rezaazad4978 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for details. Question: How do I take the piece off the bottom side of shaft?

@carlosjaureguijr5635 5 жыл бұрын

Yo bra, it is a very good jnstructional video! I commend you. Thanks

@muhanc.a.9299 5 жыл бұрын

Cool video, I suscribed to see what else you've got.

@DiegoRodriguezAW11 Жыл бұрын

brilliant as always mate, thx!!

@jourycara9398 6 жыл бұрын

Well done

@amadorbimmen 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea!💡

@jamesclaypool9272 7 ай бұрын

Outstanding wideo thank you very much

@oldowl4290 5 жыл бұрын

I have an old VW MK3 Carbio and it's got at least 3cm of steering wheel play. And this is after a very recent full suspension rebuild and rack rebuild. My issue is with the steering column fully disconnected from it's U-joints and the rack. I can hold the bottom of the column where it inserts into the first U-joint and I can still easy move and rock the steering wheel back and forth (meaning left to right like you are turning). It's overly loose and wobbly. If it was just 1cm of left / right play I could live with it but 3-4cm (or 2cm each direction) is noticeable when actually driving as the play is still felt when driving down the road in a straight line.

@philliplabuschagne5508 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I have a VW golf mk1 pickup that I need to do this to. 👍

@M.A.S.-SuperiorService- 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@umae.t2414 5 жыл бұрын

Very useful

@FrankBrankerSR 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip

@MiguelGonzalez-yl5vf 5 жыл бұрын

Good video

@isaakromero2542 2 жыл бұрын

My actual steering wheel is floppy, I think I over tightened the nut after putting on a aftermarket steering wheel, is there a way to remove the wobble? Possibly some washers or do I need to replace the whole shaft?

@krudmuphinstudioz 10 ай бұрын

Any tips for separating the shaft and collar assembly if the bushing is too tight? I have a lot of play in my steering shaft, but it's super tight and I can't pull it out easily like you. Not enough room to swing a mallet at it either...

@hanselldisla9571 4 жыл бұрын

Hi brother i have a question i take my 2010 acura mdx to my mechanic to get the engine mounts replaced so he replaced all the 3 engine mounts but i noticed when he was changing the rear one he take off parts of the rear cross member frame down to take out the rear mount so when he finish i noticed a little clunck when i turn the sterring wheels it was late in the noon so he was in the time to closed the shop but he try to adjust the sterring wheel from inside of the car he went down in the sterring wheels and try to adjust it but didnt work . He told me that its because when he pull down the cross member frame the rack lose it position and now he need to get the point to adjust it back and smooth the sterring wheel.

@nickcarr3856 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1964 humber super snipe series 5 - is that too old for the solution in this video do you think? many thanks

@rusbinmontejo6379 4 жыл бұрын

What other types liquid I can use like liquid nail or something like that,?

@jeandebeer5470 3 жыл бұрын

I have a tremendous amount of play. Im gonna check it out!!!! Than you

@zeamagogu4029 2 жыл бұрын

How do you keep the metal parts from touching during cure?

@engalipak 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@al8161 6 жыл бұрын

Very interesting Do you think this would work as a way of stiffening the silentblocks instead of going to the polyurethane ones I mean in using normal motor mounts and filling them with the windshield adhesive Or is it too soft?

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

+Alberto Laita We were thinking the same thing! I actually filled out a motor mount with this thing as an experiment and let it dry. Looks like a great solution to me. Noticeably stiffer than stock but more flexible than polyurethane. Will have to wait until I actually drive the car with the mount installed.

@azza-in_this_day_and_age Жыл бұрын

@@d4a how did it hold up 5 years later @driving 4 answers ?

@klobe9 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to make this video, you make it look very easy. Just a couple comments/questions, during the video you made some vague comments I was hoping to have a little clarity on: first how do you know you've applied an appropriate amount to the upper piece? Secondly what is the dry-time for this adhesive when its sealed like you had it? Thanks for your time!

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

I applied a bit more than needed and then wiped off the excess, that way I knew the cavity was completely filled. The two parts become bonded in just a few hours, but the curing time is 24hrs and I wouldn't touch it before that, maybe even leave it for 48 to be extra safe, since this is a moving part, unlike a windshield, and this product being a windshield adhesive a steering column isn't really its intended field of application :) , but works great nevertheless.

@klobe9 6 жыл бұрын

driving 4 answers so just literally fill in any empty space, in your example that included the middle where metal on metal contact had worn it down a bit? And let sit for 48 hours to be safe.

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, but before that I wire wheeled all the old rubber until I had bare metal on both parts.

@guywithatippmann Жыл бұрын

@@d4a I know it's been years but did you have to do any serious cleaning to the bore of the top part or does the rubber all come off with the lower part? Is just prepping the bore with a solvent or cleaner sufficient?

@stylze5767 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile i can turn my steering wheel from 11 oclock to 2 oclock of play

@jayyagami3522 2 жыл бұрын

Me too 😕 hoping it will be fixed tomorrow and not cost arm and a leg. The mechanic apparently didn't notice any problem with it lol. Gave the car a road worthy certification. To me, it does not feel roadworthy to be able to turn my steering wheel around and nothing happen to the wheels til like 20cms of turn

@434neta 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed something is wrong when I parked my car with a steering wheel turned by 60 degrees and the wheels were straight...

@syklystevens2581 2 жыл бұрын

@@434neta 🤭🤭🤭 Imagine that....

@michaelangelowalters175 3 жыл бұрын

How do you fix the wheel back to its place once the wheel start to burn rubber?

@HiFiInsider 3 ай бұрын

is there rubber in a 95 Civic? I could not tell from the service manual.

@rogersgonc 2 жыл бұрын

Nice tip!

@abdalqadr1 3 жыл бұрын

Smart man thanks from Iraq for you

@MohdAli-uy5fg 4 жыл бұрын

I have 2001 WS6 , i installed BMR rack kit and i face now issue with steeringwheel play , do i need to replace my bearing ?

@nicolasbusse 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, loved the english used (can't place the accent tho). Thanks for the explanation

@emanuelmendoza2875 4 жыл бұрын

Good suspension for the AW11?

@jeremiahhale5001 6 жыл бұрын

Hey that’s not a stock steering wheel. I’ve used both on my 88 mr2 I actually like the stock wheel better then the after market ones. Nice video 👍

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

+Jeremiah Hale Yup, definitely not stock. The car didn't come with a stock steering wheel, but I might get one someday, although they seem to get more expensive everyday:). Glad you like the video. Thanks for watching.

@jedgr 4 жыл бұрын

Is this possible for Opel Astra G ? Thanks

@musicvids9759 Жыл бұрын

Does the steering wheel play fix apply to RV's (1997 Georgie Boy Pursuit?)

@VanessaPerez-jr9fl 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2003 Honda Civic stick… the wheel locked and while trying to unlock it, it sounded like something popped? Is it fixable ? Car won’t turn on either but the key ignition makes it noise

@smartman123 2 жыл бұрын

very professional

@Tade734 Жыл бұрын

Came across your video , I want to ask, what could possibly be reason why my car is moving to the right side each time I set my steering wheel straight ...and the steering wheel suddenly becomes too easy especially when turning to the right ..will appreciate any answer to this .

@static_Tricolor_camry 6 ай бұрын

There's a lot of Steering shafts available for my Camry. I'm also replacing mine because my steering wheel has excessive play and my Front Left wheel bearing makes a scraping noise when I'm turning. I just replaced my Front Right CV Axle, and Front Right wheel bearing I noticed a difference it rides smoother and quieter.

@morrisl7 6 жыл бұрын

5:00 make sure u clean the inner tube you insert the shaft (5:53) into if u want a tight bond with the adhesive.....

@rickproulx6667 6 жыл бұрын

How do you fix the steering wheel when it squeaks turning left or right 88 MR2. It seems it's coming from the column.

@d4a 6 жыл бұрын

+Rick Proulx My steering wheel squaked before I did this. The same thing as in the video might very well be the case. Give it a try and see if it gets rid of the squeaking noise.

@Mr.M1STER 5 жыл бұрын

I must look into this on my 91 civic. There is free play in the steering and the same clunking sound like yours. Thanks for the info.

@sirsendit9770 3 жыл бұрын

Tie rods on a civic

@namechange9470 Жыл бұрын

@@sirsendit9770 Bad tie rod can give steering wheel play?

@ericryan1681 5 жыл бұрын

Yeeee. Thank you sir.

@dovendyr1956 20 күн бұрын

thanks

@workingclassperson2124 3 жыл бұрын

MR2’s RULE!! 93’s as my favorite

@edgarbatista1856 2 жыл бұрын

Question my honda civic 2002 Steering wheels turn, but wheels won't. What do you think it is

@johnnyrockett8999 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bro

@TheKingreddragon 3 жыл бұрын

how has that fix held up?

@jeremypinder4436 4 жыл бұрын

my steering wheel have plenty of play so is this the culprit cause i will do this right now my steering wheel is hard to turn sometimes and that's dangerous so i want my steering strong and sturdy and not loose i been driving like that for a very long time and it's time i fix it

@kingdavid2018 11 ай бұрын

Does this exist in the sw20 manual rack also?

@CORLEONESPORTS97 4 жыл бұрын

good video.... long live motherland

@opproav 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this info! Can I use JB Weld? I have some and dont want to spend more unnecessary money on this car. 😞

@d4a 4 жыл бұрын

Urethane windshield adhesive is 10$. Jb will just crack, it's not flexible.

@allanwright5231 5 жыл бұрын

I have toyota vista 2001 so it the same for my car. Just remove the bottom of the steering wheel shaft. Can I grease the shaft as it's a moving part?

@d4a 5 жыл бұрын

Which part exactly would you grease?

@louiswalker5510 3 жыл бұрын

heck yeah! Thanks bud

@jn8922 4 жыл бұрын

Just had my tyres changed and had a wheel alignment done but now my steering is so loose. I can't sort it out myself so I'm gonna have to take it to my mechanic. Thanks for the video...at least I understand more.

@robertorochamartinsrocha7041 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video and idea... could be a shorted video. 👍

@sadboycali 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it cause the metal to rust because the moisture can't escape?

@moneybags8869 4 жыл бұрын

Could it break off??

@zainhindi5896 Жыл бұрын

Bet shoe goo might be a decent thing to try as well pretty easily available

@tomw.4255 5 жыл бұрын

Just got new front cv axles because i had very bad torn boots and thought that would fix my steering wheel play, but it didn't. My situation is to even turn left for instance, you have to turn it 1/2 to 1 full rotation more than you otherwise should have to. I have an 4-wheel drive izusu rodeo.....do you think your fix in this video would suffice? Thank you for any feedback..

@d4a 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know how the steering column is set up in that car. If it has a rubber insulator like this and it has deteriorated than fix will definitely help a lot. Take a good luck at the column and you will know. Most vehicles have some sort of rubber in there that can either be replaced with a new OEM part of fixed like I did in the video.

@tomw.4255 5 жыл бұрын

@@d4a thanks!

@josefslivka4805 Жыл бұрын

can you come to fix it my 012 grant carravan i have that problem

@1smae100 Жыл бұрын

I got a 2010 on turns the steering wheel doesn't return to the center fully once the car is straighten. Dealership told me it's normal and part of this cars suspension. I notice it gets kind of stuck and I have to straighten it out myself I mean it's not to bad but makes it harder to park smh

@ancientdiscoverys 4 жыл бұрын

Will this adjustment put extra pressure on the rack and wear it out faster ?

@d4a 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely not

@ancientdiscoverys 4 жыл бұрын

@@d4a ..I ask because a week ago I suddenly had alot of free play. My mechanic didn't see anything broken under the car so he adjusted mu steering rack with that yoke thing. Still had free play. Next day loud clunking. Turned out my tie rod was busted and he didn't see it. Make a long story short he adjusted the rack for nothing now I'm paranoid if I should leave it or tell him to put it back where it was

@carlossoto8010 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 98 4 cyl accord my issue is when I’m driving as I speed up my steering wheel straight position changes I have already gotten new tack and pinion , mounts, tie rods and gotten alignment any idea what it could be?

@d4a 4 жыл бұрын

Torque steer?

@bradleyduggan4499 4 жыл бұрын

It's very common after alignments, I'f it's only a little bit I wouldn't be to concerned if your OCD let the mechanic know and he will most likely have one guy hold the steering wheel straight while the other does the alignment

@bradleyduggan4499 4 жыл бұрын

If your talking about the car veering to left or right as u accelerate it could be something has simple as tire pressure

@tonyamanning3448 5 жыл бұрын

Have tried almost everything & steering still has 2 much play n my 82 Chevrolet Scottsdale truck. I'm sure We r missing something, just haven't found it yet

@e36fanatics 3 жыл бұрын

changing the car might fix it

@XTEMASV 5 жыл бұрын

Do i need my steering rack out to do this? I don't have room to pull that part out, even though it is loose would it be easier to remove steering column?

@DanLoFat 5 жыл бұрын

if while holding the upper peace and spending the lower and it moves you know it's not the rack so don't touch the rack you won't need you and it won't be any easier at all anyway I won't have anything to do with it.