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MrBallen

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Жыл бұрын

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@dustbunnieboo
@dustbunnieboo Жыл бұрын
As a parent of a disabled son, one of my biggest fears is that he would be falsely accused of a crime and railroaded through the system. Nightmare fuel.
@kaylashafer8815
@kaylashafer8815 Жыл бұрын
Mine too.
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc Жыл бұрын
Sadly this has happened many times not only to handicapped people.
@dennislogan6781
@dennislogan6781 Жыл бұрын
Watch the British film "Give it to him". It's about a large mentally disabled man who is hanged for a crime.
@JesusMariaCatholicChristianPio
@JesusMariaCatholicChristianPio Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/sun/PLUcjoO2Bj8AsiGYdzfqZyXae1lhMw_p2s .
@dankadesign7462
@dankadesign7462 Жыл бұрын
@@dennislogan6781 😥😥😢
@rheverend
@rheverend Жыл бұрын
I love how millions of adults gather around for story time on fridays
@unrestedtank4172
@unrestedtank4172 Жыл бұрын
Not just adults
@itzhexen0
@itzhexen0 Жыл бұрын
It's because I'm a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious. Particularly in story format.
@adamganjaman2275
@adamganjaman2275 Жыл бұрын
it used to be 3 ,4 even 5 times a week for the ogs
@nigelplumley8188
@nigelplumley8188 Жыл бұрын
Seriously😂
@DammDamian
@DammDamian Жыл бұрын
@@itzhexen0 best comment
@nd15music73
@nd15music73 Жыл бұрын
The bit about the dog digging up bones in front of the police and the serial killer just nonchalantly throwing a skull over a wall infront of them to get rid of it is hilarious dark comedy, like something out of a comedy scene.
@TheEmp48
@TheEmp48 Жыл бұрын
We need a movie on this FOR SURE!!
@KaiTheAussie
@KaiTheAussie Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, it's not that funny is it? There could have been orphans on the other side of that wall
@ly3730
@ly3730 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEmp48 weirdo
@TheEmp48
@TheEmp48 Жыл бұрын
@@ly3730 thank you!
@muscleman8562iscute
@muscleman8562iscute Жыл бұрын
@@KaiTheAussie bro you sound like that tik toker i forget his name
@Bri_P_768
@Bri_P_768 Жыл бұрын
As soon as John was introduced into the story, I knew it sounded familiar from some killer story I heard somewhere and I knew it wasn't going to be fair for poor Timothy. I just hate when innocents get swept up in the flawed investigations of crimes.
@scandalvision9084
@scandalvision9084 Жыл бұрын
I’m😊
@scandalvision9084
@scandalvision9084 Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊oo😊😊oppoplolo😊more like 😊
@rosehippyguy3402
@rosehippyguy3402 Жыл бұрын
The movie 10 RILLINGTON PLACE starring John Hurt (as Timothy) was based on this story. Worth a watch.
@jsupim1
@jsupim1 Жыл бұрын
Innocents? Timothy wanted to kill a child.
@herbie_the_hillbillie_goat
@herbie_the_hillbillie_goat Жыл бұрын
I never saw the movie or heard the story, but I knew things were about to get "interesting" when Timothy was executed half way through the story.
@Mister_Holdsworth
@Mister_Holdsworth Жыл бұрын
I have heard this story 20 times however not once heard it through Timothy's lens. It's always about Christie. Well done. Great story.
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if he'd mentioned 10 Rillington Place at the beginning I'd have had the revelation I had at 10 minutes in when he mentioned Christie. Very good idea to see it through this lens👍
@frolic6366
@frolic6366 Жыл бұрын
True
@sweeneytodd011
@sweeneytodd011 Жыл бұрын
very true as posted above i didnt recognise the case until i heard the words "10 rillington place". it was good to get the background on Timothy and the victims, really well written and well told.
@eatyagrandmasgrapes3858
@eatyagrandmasgrapes3858 Жыл бұрын
Hollywood needa make a film
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs Жыл бұрын
@@eatyagrandmasgrapes3858 hollywood dont needa make a film, been done , check out "10 Rillington Place " on KZfaq, or whatevah
@DeadRider88
@DeadRider88 Жыл бұрын
Timothy being pardoned after his execution: "thanks guys, really means a lot"
@user-ik6nx5gt7t
@user-ik6nx5gt7t Жыл бұрын
Hello tell Expert Rockwell about crypto investment
@zaraamber9457
@zaraamber9457 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂 I was thinking pretty much the same when he said "Timothy is now officially an innocent man" ... I was like "yeah that would do!" 😄
@gavinjenkins899
@gavinjenkins899 11 ай бұрын
Maybe he shouldn't have fled, confessed, lied like 3 times, then confessed separately yet again... There is only so much massive self incrimination before there can be no "REASONABLE doubt" anymore.
@balafama2120
@balafama2120 11 ай бұрын
@@gavinjenkins899 They executed him without a body . that was a huge travesty of justice.
@niramm
@niramm 10 ай бұрын
@@gavinjenkins899 you're overlooking the fact he wasn't very bright... it's a tragic case
@MiseryLovesMe92
@MiseryLovesMe92 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you mentioned his neighbor’s name “John Christie” my heart sank. Thank you for telling this from Timothy’s POV. I feel so bad for him. May him and all the other victims RIP. 💔
@mikenunya6557
@mikenunya6557 Жыл бұрын
😅,
@mikenunya6557
@mikenunya6557 Жыл бұрын
My 😅😢5😅
@bruceclothier8238
@bruceclothier8238 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, but the famous detective Simpson has indicated that there was good evidence that Evans was complicit in the murders that Christie committed. It seems likely that the real story will never be told
@1234cheerful
@1234cheerful 3 ай бұрын
I looked him up. Haven't even finished the video but saw your comment. I feel so bad for Timothy now.
@999b0a
@999b0a Ай бұрын
@@1234cheerfulLesson learned: wait until after a video is over to read comments.
@lizgreer6888
@lizgreer6888 10 ай бұрын
I'm a special education teacher and this story broke my heart... that poor family and so sad for Timothy. He had no idea what was happening to him and no one to advocate. This is why I do what I do so that the Timothy's of the world can get a job and have a productive life and stand up for themselves.
@annamossity8879
@annamossity8879 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! ❤
@josephmarzullo
@josephmarzullo 6 ай бұрын
I was a special education student and labeled “emotionally disturbed” … it was nothing but a traumatizing experience
@AyeYoTay
@AyeYoTay 6 ай бұрын
I was labeled that too well more like "emotional handicap"​@@josephmarzullo
@usersknxcjdkzm
@usersknxcjdkzm Ай бұрын
Thank you so much.. I am a school teacher and it broke my heart too...
@FirstThenLast13
@FirstThenLast13 Жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Timothy, your wife and your two children
@caseyself2134
@caseyself2134 Жыл бұрын
I pray for you and your family Timothy you were treated unfairly in life and I'm sure you're all in heaven now and eternal peace
@kitchenswitch3626
@kitchenswitch3626 Жыл бұрын
💔
@InTrancedState
@InTrancedState Жыл бұрын
Gau
@rafeeali8307
@rafeeali8307 Жыл бұрын
@@caseyself2134 there was still domestic violence in that household lol
@LinuxAndThings
@LinuxAndThings 11 ай бұрын
​@@rafeeali8307yeah I was about to say Timmothy still sounds like a POS eben if falsely accused
@bmay711
@bmay711 Жыл бұрын
My nana was from london. Before she moved to Canada, & then coming over here in the usa, her friend & her were looking for apartments to rent in London. She always claimed they almost rented an apartment from a man who gave them the creeps They decided not to take it & later on found out he had bodies buried in his house. She was pretty sure it was john christie, but wasn't positive. Unfortunately she passed in 2020 at 91. I miss her dearly.
@Retributionist
@Retributionist Жыл бұрын
God damn that's horrifying
@Retributionist
@Retributionist Жыл бұрын
@@unknowntiger6293 you should be ashamed of yourself kid
@Raraking4796
@Raraking4796 Жыл бұрын
People should ALWAYS trust their gut/intentions. We should subconsciously know things before we know them!
@davidjean988
@davidjean988 Жыл бұрын
@@Retributionist what did unknown tiger say I can't find what he said
@IsraelCountryCube
@IsraelCountryCube Жыл бұрын
@@Retributionist should he?
@greyishboy
@greyishboy Жыл бұрын
the executioners response to john saying his nose itches definitely lightened up the mood a bit
@JoneyJefe
@JoneyJefe 11 ай бұрын
Probably said it without realizing how perfect his response was.
@Crimea_River
@Crimea_River 9 ай бұрын
They could have punched the guy's nose to help with the itch
@gerardwayseyelash
@gerardwayseyelash 9 ай бұрын
​@@Crimea_RiverThat would've worked
@sheilabush7066
@sheilabush7066 Жыл бұрын
This is a heartbreaking story.
@YouTubesucksdick
@YouTubesucksdick Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@toyyatoy
@toyyatoy Жыл бұрын
This is why you never treat people poorly, you don’t know their lives, he never had a chance. From birth to death he didn’t have a choice in the way his life went. Horribly sad story.
@michaelcherokee8906
@michaelcherokee8906 Жыл бұрын
That's not really true. For one, he frequently lied. Nobody made him do that, and it was a moral failing of his that he was wholly responsible for. Secondly, he shouldve never knocked his wife up. I know he had exceptionally low intelligence, and although you might be able to make an argument that his low IQ partially absolved him of some responsibility, it does not excuse him completely. He was human, with weaknesses that we can sympathize with, but he still made mistakes. Having said that, he ABSOLUTELY did not deserve what happened to him. If he hadnt made either of the mistakes that I listed he may have not suffered his fate though, so I guess if this story has any moral at the end, it is to live honestly and carefully.
@JohnDoe-vy5hh
@JohnDoe-vy5hh Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Humans are horrible.
@Krazi1982
@Krazi1982 Жыл бұрын
Yea i can Relate it's like ppl like us were just doomed from birth never had chance but those are the cards we were delt and unfortunately forced to play smh
@DowncastParadox
@DowncastParadox Жыл бұрын
Eh, I know at least a couple of other reasons why you shouldn't treat people poorly...
@jamesfriendly
@jamesfriendly Жыл бұрын
You always have a choice
@angiemorgan8173
@angiemorgan8173 Жыл бұрын
This is such a morbid twist of the examples of "crying wolf" and "wolf in sheep's clothing"...at the same time. Never heard of this true crime story and I thought I've heard most of them.
@mickeyairey8831
@mickeyairey8831 Жыл бұрын
There's a film made about this crime. It's called 10 rillington place starring richard Attenborough
@kellyosborne7571
@kellyosborne7571 Жыл бұрын
It's such a sad, tragic tale all around. Poor Timothy who was browbeaten into a confession. Poor Beryl and Geraldine who were Christie's victims. The whole story is just awful. Its one of my pet cases. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, I knew someone who lived nearby at the time. It was an old secondary school teacher of mine and she recounted in terrifying detail (she was an English teacher and ex-editor for a publishing house ) so vividly the feeling in the area at the time. She actually remembered her parents spending the time of day with this monster.
@marktyrrell8892
@marktyrrell8892 Жыл бұрын
@@mickeyairey8831 Yes it's an incredibly well acted and powerful film
@lindairvine7679
@lindairvine7679 Жыл бұрын
@@mickeyairey8831 yes and so amazingly grisly how Richard Attenborough played Christie, he got his mannerisms to a T , even the way he was suppose to whisper due to a gas attack in the trenches 😧 creepy film but definitely worth a watch
@lindairvine7679
@lindairvine7679 Жыл бұрын
@@kellyosborne7571 😧 it makes my skin crawl to think of that 🤢 thankfully your friend survived to tell the tale , he’s not human or at least he didn’t act human, I’m glad they executed him !
@Rose.Archer
@Rose.Archer Жыл бұрын
My grandad spent 18 months in hospital after a mustard gas attack. He passed away 96 and I never saw him without socks. It was his feet that were affected by the mustard gas but because he was far away he never got a single visitor in hospital. And his younger sister died of TB at aged 7. He was my hero. Even though he went through so much in his long life he was the nicest person in the world.
@ItzUnknwn
@ItzUnknwn Жыл бұрын
so they found bodies in johns backyard and in his closet but can only charge him with him wifes murder but they execute timothy for just saying things and not even being accurate? wtf
@Stephan5916
@Stephan5916 Жыл бұрын
@Itz Yep, common sense was not their strongest point.
@gerardwayseyelash
@gerardwayseyelash 9 ай бұрын
What's more annoying is Timothy was illiterate so how could he have signed the papers if he was literally unable to?
@terdsie
@terdsie 8 ай бұрын
As a bald, bearded man likes to say: "the past was the worst".
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 7 ай бұрын
The maximum penalty has been revoked. But the way investigations are often conducted has never changed. Murderers allowed to walk free while prosecutors feed on the concern that police don't have an airtight case. Ol dummy takes the stand on another case having no shred of how to protest his innocence gets convicted before the evidence is heard.
@AyeYoTay
@AyeYoTay 6 ай бұрын
Underrated comment!
@pameladonnelson2093
@pameladonnelson2093 Жыл бұрын
This story is so sad. I feel bad for Timothy’s wife and daughter and for Timothy. So many victims in this story
@Marisa_enjoyer
@Marisa_enjoyer Жыл бұрын
The kids were the only innocent ones in the story
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex Жыл бұрын
@@Marisa_enjoyer Did you even see the video?
@Marisa_enjoyer
@Marisa_enjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex Indeed. I'd say conspiring to kill your unborn child is the furthest thing from innocence.
@TrojanLube69
@TrojanLube69 Жыл бұрын
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex yes he did. Timothy was just a coward and wanted everything easy just like many today. Want the easy way out and not deal with the consequences of their actions. There is always a way, but doesn’t mean always a will. I would sell my soul before killing an innocent kid.
@blondie7740
@blondie7740 Жыл бұрын
@@Marisa_enjoyer I would say they were desperate. They could not afford the child they had, let alone a second one. And back then, there were no programs to help poverty-stricken families.
@JaleMusiq
@JaleMusiq Жыл бұрын
How did they only have enough evidence to charge him with 1 murder, when he literally had 4 bodies in his old apartment 🤦🏽‍♀️. That’s some A1 police work.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
Probably not enough evidence, just the missing wife, with no effort on the part of the husband to report her missing, was the only evidence they had.
@sethgriffin763
@sethgriffin763 Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing... 9/10ths of the law is possession. Having 3 other bodies would mean 3 other murders... Just goes to show that Police aren't always the brightest...
@tyrelladkins5200
@tyrelladkins5200 Жыл бұрын
@@SeanBZA Bruh, 4 bodies in your apartment is evidence. That is key physical evidence lmfao
@ahypocriticalorange
@ahypocriticalorange Жыл бұрын
@ahhhcool this is why your mom doesnt love you
@memawknowsbest4978
@memawknowsbest4978 Жыл бұрын
@@SeanBZA They found the bodies before he went on trial for his wife's murder. The bodies weren't found after the conviction, just after he moved out of the apartment.
@candancemcgee3328
@candancemcgee3328 11 ай бұрын
When you said, "Wait, my nose itches," and the executioner said, "That won't bother you long," I actually laughed. What an incredibly evil SOB.
@neilonaniet
@neilonaniet 10 ай бұрын
Typical British humour. I'd have said the same thing.
@evildoer61636
@evildoer61636 9 ай бұрын
Cracked me up as well, lol!
@cyberjerbsomethingyoursisn4979
@cyberjerbsomethingyoursisn4979 8 ай бұрын
Bloody brilliant response I'd say.😂
@vik3071
@vik3071 8 ай бұрын
The executioner was Albert Pierrepont, the same, incredibly professional man who'd executed Timothy Evans. Apparently he was furious with Christie who had caused him to execute an innocent man & therefore had no sympathy for Christie.
@vivreedxx4032
@vivreedxx4032 Жыл бұрын
I used to watch Mr Ballen all day every day, binging the stories. I fell off the wagon but I'm so glad to be back! Missed ya, buddy!!
@Maggot105
@Maggot105 Жыл бұрын
Same for me. I got a new job and didn’t watch mr B for a few months
@jasonleeson4248
@jasonleeson4248 Жыл бұрын
Same here! I stopped because of marching band, now that that coping mechanism left I’m back here 😃👍
@thomasharkins7949
@thomasharkins7949 9 ай бұрын
Didn't you work? 😂
@rockyourhead9614
@rockyourhead9614 Жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt that any other channel has this much of a positive community behind a creator and I am glad because John deserves it!
@danpang5404
@danpang5404 Жыл бұрын
Stevewilldoit, nelk, Bradley Martyn all have a stronger fan base.
@twinkletwinklelittlebat
@twinkletwinklelittlebat Жыл бұрын
Bet! He is awesome. Funny, greater speaker, keeps my attention.
@justjane722
@justjane722 Жыл бұрын
John is awesome
@patrickcabanay1552
@patrickcabanay1552 Жыл бұрын
Big love from the Philippines!!
@hollowzx6161
@hollowzx6161 Жыл бұрын
Mrbeast maybe?
@veronicafior2714
@veronicafior2714 Жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine the hopelessness & betrayal he felt the moment Timothy was told about his wife & daughter . Very Sad .
@froginaskillet
@froginaskillet Жыл бұрын
i cant imagine the pain
@redefinedliving5974
@redefinedliving5974 Жыл бұрын
he trusted him. so trafmgic :( monsters exist
@f6cks
@f6cks Жыл бұрын
:/
@byunniq9060
@byunniq9060 Жыл бұрын
He was naive. I know they said he was stupid but wowwww. Who just accepts all this information without questioning anything. Not to mention he confessed to it. Obviously its sad but i feel like he wouldn't have lasted much longer being that stupid, imo.
@Sam-mn8ex
@Sam-mn8ex Жыл бұрын
@@byunniq9060 people with low iqs struggle to reason things
@bibakroll8999
@bibakroll8999 Жыл бұрын
For those interested in this story, an excellent film was made called 10 Rillington Place starring Richard Attenborough as Christie.
@justahumanwithkermitsface1923
@justahumanwithkermitsface1923 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for the info ☺️
@stevebarker1974
@stevebarker1974 Жыл бұрын
The remakes better with Samantha morton and Tim Roth its a series not a film 👍👍👍👍
@EASYTIGER10
@EASYTIGER10 Жыл бұрын
I pictured the actors in the film - Attenborough as Christie, John Hurt as Evans and Judy Geeson as Beryl - as Mr Ballen told the story :)
@PATRALEYEON
@PATRALEYEON Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@garymcatear822
@garymcatear822 10 ай бұрын
Sir David Attenborough's brother.
@Pushing_Pixels
@Pushing_Pixels Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how quickly they went from trial to carrying out the execution. Like there wasn't any appeal process. Glad they stopped capital punishment, this is a perfect example of why it shouldn't exist.
@mshat18
@mshat18 11 ай бұрын
Easy for you to say as you’ve probably never had violence committed against someone you love by a complete monster. People like you shouldn’t get a say on the death penalty.
@user-mj8bg3fw8w
@user-mj8bg3fw8w 7 ай бұрын
By your logic all of your country laws should have no effect because out of thousand of cases there was 1 person unjustified punished and for you the other 9999 dont matter if there happens 1 mistake
@seymourclearly
@seymourclearly 7 ай бұрын
​@@user-mj8bg3fw8w that's your "logic"
@mike-xn1qj
@mike-xn1qj 7 ай бұрын
​@@stephanienkurtz They pointed out the flaws in that line of reasoning. The mistaken convictions mean that the investigation, trial and prosecution were flawed, not the sentence itself. There is no "fixing" the guy with a foot in his crockpot and a pile of bones in his closet. That is far different from a sketchy eyewitness. The "but some are innocent" argument ignores those on camera shooting up schools who got caught with the empty gun in their hands. The inability to "undo" the 5 years in prison ( possibly getting raped or stabbed while missing your mom's funeral) again points to flaws in the process, NOT the idea of Prison itself. YOU argued emotion, not logic.
@fruitygranulizer540
@fruitygranulizer540 5 ай бұрын
@@user-mj8bg3fw8wno. you put people in jail, not kill them. there is always a chance they were innocent, and you can't reverse killing someone.
@jayerm
@jayerm Жыл бұрын
MrBallen is a legend at this point. Thank you for quality content every week
@billysheeley4390
@billysheeley4390 Жыл бұрын
He's been a legend for a minute
@davidbryant1606
@davidbryant1606 Жыл бұрын
He's gonna have to change his name soon to unmatched ballen 🧬🏀🏈
@sarahcollins3047
@sarahcollins3047 Жыл бұрын
His mother soon also. Such a kind soul. If you have seen his updates youve seen it
@chuckdavis8643
@chuckdavis8643 Жыл бұрын
I would normally hesitate to say “legend” but in this case it’s fair!!
@nobodygrinder5667
@nobodygrinder5667 Жыл бұрын
Legend for research and story telling, strange all because there are famous researchers that are never legendary.. Celebrity status I can understand legendary really weird, just too soon. Paul Harvey is legendary.. But only because he earned it.. But Mr. Ballen just isn't there yet..
@dreamhollow
@dreamhollow Жыл бұрын
Timothy really suffered his whole life, then lost everything in less than a year. This is an absolute tragedy. I hope he's in a better place, wherever he is.
@TyeArtisik
@TyeArtisik Жыл бұрын
🙏🏾
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
This is why I will never support the death penalty. Unless a judicial system is perfect which it can't be, the death penalty is barbaric and inhumane and no society should consider itself civilized if it enacts capital punishment. There's plenty of modern day examples of innocent people being put to death here in the United States, it would be nice if MrBallen did an episode on on one of these.
@suzannah991
@suzannah991 Жыл бұрын
I like to think he'd find some comfort knowing we tell his story even in 2022 and our hearts break for him and his family.
@annacarrie269
@annacarrie269 Жыл бұрын
@@suzannah991 And that they stopped the death penalty b/e of what happened to him.
@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165
@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165 Жыл бұрын
Yesh to hell with the daughter and wife...not a single mention of them?
@madsquirrelz276
@madsquirrelz276 Жыл бұрын
That man wiped out an entire family 😢 what's worse is that for many years, Beryl's family were unable to locate the exact resting place of Beryl and Geraldine, as they had been interred in an unmarked paupers grave, with many other people and they found it very tough to finally get a grave stone for them.
@kaylademoura6165
@kaylademoura6165 Ай бұрын
They found the bodies of them two quickly because they searched where Timothy was telling them too. Did you watch the same video we did? That’s why the cops asked Timothy about killing them they knew they got strangled.
@MasterLollipop
@MasterLollipop 18 күн бұрын
@@kaylademoura6165 Did you read their comment though? They're talking about where they were buried after the subject matter of the video, not where the bodies were initially located...
@sleeperholdASMR
@sleeperholdASMR 10 ай бұрын
It's so cool how you provide real photos of the people, crime scenes and actual audio clips when recordings are mentioned.
@nicoladawson2861
@nicoladawson2861 Жыл бұрын
This story really hurt my heart. Can anyone imagine not only losing your wife and daughter, then finding out your good friend did it, then being executed?! Thank goodness for karma! Just wish it would've come sooner.
@Tenekai
@Tenekai Жыл бұрын
Karma? I think justice was served. Death for death. He killed his unborn child, and was killed himself. An eye for an eye, life for life.
@janewilks3829
@janewilks3829 Жыл бұрын
@@Tenekai How you pick and choose biblical quotes is sad! You quote the Old Testament here but ignore that Jesus taught to 'turn the other cheek' and compassion.
@MickLoud999
@MickLoud999 Жыл бұрын
@@Tenekai You got this story completely wrong. Timothy didn't murder anyone. It was Christie you #%&@$$
@Tenekai
@Tenekai Жыл бұрын
@@janewilks3829 how you pick and choose what human stays alive is sad! Are you referring to compassion for the humans that's aren't convenient for you? Like compassion for a life being shredded to pieces in a womb? Feeling every bit of pain? Is that the compassion you're referring to?
@Tenekai
@Tenekai Жыл бұрын
@@janewilks3829 are you referring to the baby in the womb turning the other cheek, as it's head is being torn to pieces?
@kennedy9464
@kennedy9464 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the UK and have heard this story hundreds of times. Beginning with the incredibly popular movie '10 Rillington Place' starring Richard Attenborough and John Hurt. But not even those great stars have come close to portraying these characters as you have Mr B. Your telling of this story is masterful.
@themeantuber
@themeantuber Жыл бұрын
The 2016 mini series was good. Haven't seen the 1971 movie.
@Ginasgusa
@Ginasgusa Жыл бұрын
Just looked up the trailer…
@rykersmimi
@rykersmimi Жыл бұрын
Yes, he is an amazing story teller and thank you for the movie suggestion I love Richard Attenborough.
@MrGmart64
@MrGmart64 Жыл бұрын
Sir Richard creeped me out in that movie.
@tomhirons7475
@tomhirons7475 Жыл бұрын
@@themeantuber i agree
@IfonlyIwassmaller
@IfonlyIwassmaller 11 ай бұрын
Not only is he the best storyteller on KZfaq, he is also the best at doing advertisements for his sponsors on KZfaq.
@coco-on60fps54
@coco-on60fps54 10 ай бұрын
Man we live in such a messed up world. Poor Timothy. God rest his soul.
@mrspacely603
@mrspacely603 Жыл бұрын
I miss the days when Mr Ballen says "Thats all we do, and we post 4 to 5 times a week" The good ole days. Mr Ballen got many of us through lockdown with stories everyday!!
@hoglit282
@hoglit282 Жыл бұрын
you forgot "if you're a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious".
@ajm3578
@ajm3578 Жыл бұрын
@@hoglit282 He still says that 0:44
@miguelzavaleta1911
@miguelzavaleta1911 Жыл бұрын
It's probably better this way -- the quality of the episodes is far better now compared to then.
@julialay6632
@julialay6632 Жыл бұрын
As much as it sucks, I do appreciate the time. They put so much work in every episode for us!
@obligations4455
@obligations4455 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelzavaleta1911 If you mean the quality of the background green screen then ok. Although that does not matter as long as the quality of his narrations never changed, they have always been great.
@coreysmith9497
@coreysmith9497 Жыл бұрын
This may be his most heartbreaking story. Imagine losing your whole family, and not even critically understanding what is going on. Imagine having such a low IQ, that he may not have even fully understood what was happening, or why. RIP to his whole family. thats truly sad.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a small mercy that he didn’t really understand. :(
@coreysmith9497
@coreysmith9497 Жыл бұрын
@@tookitogo I truly hope so.
@dankadesign7462
@dankadesign7462 Жыл бұрын
Yes thats right.he was as innocent child who trying his best to do things right not knowing why he failing again and again.Hearbreaking story. We need to be more gentle to each other and understands ppl limitations and circumstances.
@Alexandra-ng1ih
@Alexandra-ng1ih Жыл бұрын
This all happened because of the abortion laws in UK. If it was legal she wouldn’t have been raped and killed. And the baby wouldn’t have been strangled.
@coreysmith9497
@coreysmith9497 Жыл бұрын
@@Alexandra-ng1ih without trying to bring up such a divisive topic, I absolutely 100% agree.
@abelvaldez4801
@abelvaldez4801 Жыл бұрын
27:39 I can just picture John casually picking up a skull in front of the police saying “Can you believe this guy trying to frame me? Pff how ridiculous” while throwing the skull next door 😂🫠 then picks up the leg bone just sets it to the side
@angelofmusic1992
@angelofmusic1992 Жыл бұрын
This is a really sad story, but the bit at the end about John saying his nose itching and the executioner being like "It won't bother you in a second" made me laugh.
@kylemoore7746
@kylemoore7746 Жыл бұрын
The way you capture how frightening the execution was for Timothy and then it being served the same way to John really demonstrates how powerful of a storyteller you've become. Truly amazing delivery.
@loveableheathen7441
@loveableheathen7441 Жыл бұрын
Fr, listening to the execution scene had my heart beating faster
@pherasabraxas
@pherasabraxas Жыл бұрын
"My nose itches" "It won't bother you for long." Damn.... I think the executioner outdid the condemned on that one.
@truthseeker2321
@truthseeker2321 Жыл бұрын
He can scratch it when he gets to Hell.
@glitch1182
@glitch1182 Жыл бұрын
@@truthseeker2321 I'm positive hell doesn't exist. God, possibly, and maybe a heaven of sorts, but hell as a concept is a human one.
@senakuma9985
@senakuma9985 Жыл бұрын
Satan: Dayum they did a number on you with that last one ngl
@Heligany
@Heligany Жыл бұрын
as last words go its pretty pathetic eh LOL
@qwq843
@qwq843 Жыл бұрын
@@glitch1182 I don't think that either God or Heaven exist, but this is really interesting topic to discuss! I like human psychology, so the concept of Hell is somehow fascinating because of people's need to know and feel like "Justice" is something very real.
@sunisbest1234
@sunisbest1234 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I don't agree with the death penalty. Innocent ppl can be released, you can't come back from dead!
@lizeggar2421
@lizeggar2421 11 ай бұрын
I agree, but exceptions should be made for terrorists. There have been several cases of terrorists being released because they are deemed to have been rehabilitated, only for them to go out on a killing spree again. If they are not executed, then they must be imprisoned on a remote island, without a chance of parole. The UK has several uninhabited islands off the coast of Scotland, where a prison could be built.
@pandujyadav5747
@pandujyadav5747 11 ай бұрын
Death penalty in some cases is necessary like in middle east, if you are proven guilty with high degree crimes like rape or murder then you are beheaded with no possibility of getting out of it
@Theresa0617
@Theresa0617 11 ай бұрын
I agree with the death penalty for child abusers of every degree.
@sunisbest1234
@sunisbest1234 11 ай бұрын
@@Theresa0617 lock them up for life. Case in point: the ones who have spent years in prison, later released as proven false testimony was given. Quite a Few cases are documented. Again I say, you cannot come back from dead!
@shannonrutledge8872
@shannonrutledge8872 10 ай бұрын
I forget where I heard this (maybe in the Bible?) that it is better for a thousand guilty men to go free than for one innocent man to be wrongly convicted.
@laughingwizzy5885
@laughingwizzy5885 9 ай бұрын
This guy is the master of telling stories, I have never been intrigued by the way anyone tell stories until this guy showed up and even more knowing it’s based on true events
@dudyrofldudy
@dudyrofldudy Жыл бұрын
My grandmother treated John Christie whilst she was working as a nurse in London prior to his crimes coming to light, he asked her if she wanted to go out with him later that day - lucky for her (and the rest of us) she turned him down
@marcelacastillo3259
@marcelacastillo3259 Жыл бұрын
Ye sure she did
@dudyrofldudy
@dudyrofldudy Жыл бұрын
@@marcelacastillo3259 it would be a strange, and quite frankly disrespectful, thing to make up for a few likes on a KZfaq comment but whatever
@StagnantGravy69
@StagnantGravy69 Жыл бұрын
I smell bullshit.
@dudyrofldudy
@dudyrofldudy Жыл бұрын
Well, have a nice day regardless
@bt0002
@bt0002 Жыл бұрын
@@dudyrofldudy in what care home was this then ?
@deadlygamer1893
@deadlygamer1893 Жыл бұрын
Wow that was a sad story. Can’t imagine how Timothy must’ve felt throughout the whole thing
@elliusblack
@elliusblack Жыл бұрын
@ͺ That doesn’t mean the retelling of his story includes the entirety of his thoughts throughout this whole ordeal. Just because he and his wife had a tumultuous relationship (they both hit each other) doesn’t mean he meant to murder her.
@Mister_Holdsworth
@Mister_Holdsworth Жыл бұрын
He was so sad that he let it all happen and thought he deserved it for his part.
@JeffCirillo
@JeffCirillo Жыл бұрын
@ͺ Technically he gave the ok for one of his kids to be killed. Morality was not his strong suit.
@johannduplessis3467
@johannduplessis3467 Жыл бұрын
@@Mister_Holdsworth As already mentioned he was extremely illiterate. It would most likely have been extremely easy to manipulate him. The fact that he also handed himself in also shows he had feelings of remorse and regret.
@ticketyboo2456
@ticketyboo2456 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffCirillo Wrong. He did not give the go ahead for Geraldine to be done away with. Weren't you listening? It was only the unborn foetus that he sanctioned for termination.
@pabmusic1
@pabmusic1 Жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thank you. I grew up with the Christie case - I was too young to understand it, but it was a prominent feature of the 1950s - as were those of Derek Bentley and Ruth Ellis. By the time the Tories were ousted from power, and Labour were in charge, there was quite a large anti-capital punishment movement. Roy Jenkins, the Home Secretary immediately announced a moratorium on executions, and gradually every offence for which capital punishment was the penalty was abolished. One of the most chilling things about the Evans/Christie affair is that - objectively - Evans was rightly convicted. This isn't a miscarriage of justice where he should have been acquitted. The evidence against him was overwhelming. It is only because we now know that Christie was one of the worst serial killers the UK has ever had that we can say the conviction was almost certainly wrong. A good example of why capital punishment is such a poor thing, and why almost every country has abolished it.
@Yourmommyzgf
@Yourmommyzgf Жыл бұрын
This story is just depressing tbh, this poor guy got hung for no reason to protect his “friend” that murdered his wife and kid.😔
@sbd11600
@sbd11600 Жыл бұрын
Poor Timothy. I can’t imagine how hard his life must have been. This is why I like to study the history of disability. If he was homeschooled or able to have accommodations made for him like we have for people today, his life likely would have been completely different.
@eatonkuntz
@eatonkuntz Жыл бұрын
Or maybe just less lead poisoning, he'd probably be fine now.
@downhomesunset
@downhomesunset Жыл бұрын
There aren’t much “accommodations” made for people who are disabled now. We live in enforced extreme poverty when we are lucky enough to be approved for disability payments. We have to sell property/use savings in order to qualify-sometimes being married was a disqualifications(so the whole family has to become destitute). A monthly payment for a disabled person doesn’t even cover rent averages in most provinces and states. Poor Timothy-life was not on his side.
@FRLN500
@FRLN500 Жыл бұрын
@@downhomesunset I don't know where you live but my sister has been living on disability for almost 50 years. She has free housing, free medical, free dental, free vision care, and can afford to smoke cigarettes and drink whiskey! On the other hand, I have worked all my adult life and at 70 I cannot afford to retire. Maybe you should move to British Columbia.
@anniespencer1553
@anniespencer1553 Жыл бұрын
@@FRLN500 I'mma take a shot in the dark & say they're in America. Sounds about right. Side note:: if they (a disabled person/anyone on govt assist) do get free housing, it's not any where you'd want to live.
@alisonnicol6343
@alisonnicol6343 Жыл бұрын
@@downhomesunset But Timothy lived in the UK. A few years later, the NHS would have been there for him. Sounds like you’re talking about the USA 😳
@Flick14
@Flick14 Жыл бұрын
I can't forget this story, mainly because my brothers name is Timothy Evans. He lived in London, struggled with speech and walking, has cerebral palsy mainly affecting his right foot, missed loads of school to have medical treatment, turned to booze for abit, got blamed for stuff/picked on because he was an easy target, driven by money but struggled to get a job because of his disability, zero common sense! However, he's extremely book smart and studied hard whenever he was bed ridden and as a teenager learnt to write screenplays. Won an award for a short film he directed when he was 16 years old I think. Was a film critic for a few years, the actress Helen hunt wanted to use one of his scripts for a film but it ended up not getting made and he works a normal desk job now but still has hopes of becoming a director
@starsparklemonkey3390
@starsparklemonkey3390 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe in reincarnation but there are some similarities here.
@greatmusic142
@greatmusic142 Жыл бұрын
wow the reality that could have been timothy evans life had he not gotten the TB on his foot and get the right education
@klarabarunovic9841
@klarabarunovic9841 Жыл бұрын
Oh please🙄
@misslora3896
@misslora3896 Жыл бұрын
My brothers name is also Timothy Evans. However, we're from southern California. He had hearing trouble when he was young which resulted in a speech impediment for much of his early life. Of course children can be very mean so he was teased pretty mercilessly for it. He did eventually overcome the impediment with speech therapy, but the emotional and social damage was already done. He's now 54 and has never overcome it. What is it with young men and this name? Kind of spooky.
@warrior8486
@warrior8486 Жыл бұрын
The good ending
@millig8980
@millig8980 Жыл бұрын
I was once told that Justice system is not about "justice" and that is why a criminal gets to defend himself while the victims simply disappear 🤔.
@DollfaceKim
@DollfaceKim Жыл бұрын
Money, politics, and more money.
@A_Stereotypical_Heretic
@A_Stereotypical_Heretic Жыл бұрын
What? Everybody has the right to defend themselves. The only instance where I would bend on that stance is if they were caught red handed with tons of supporting evidence.
@Neostrius
@Neostrius Жыл бұрын
You and the person you're quoting are attempting to sound smart, but the implications of said quote are incredibly stupid if you think about it for even a second. It completely misunderstands the foundational principle of most decent justice systems: the presumption of innocence. It advocates for the exact opposite of what is concluded by this video: that you shouldn't just assume who is and isn't a criminal and fall into a confirmation bias. You let the "criminal" defend himself, because what if he's not actually a criminal? It signifies that, even if we get it wrong and a criminal goes free to commit more crime, that is still more just (or the lesser of two evils if you prefer to phrase it that way) than if we were to execute one who had committed no such crime. No justice system is perfectly flawless, and I would even agree that the justice system isn't about justice depending on the context (because corruption is a thing that exists), but the only profundity of that quote is in how dumb it is.
@coolboy5428
@coolboy5428 Жыл бұрын
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic Evidence can be faked...........never trust the system
@SnivillusLupin
@SnivillusLupin 10 ай бұрын
And if we didn't have the ability to provide a defense when accused by others, there'd probably be A LOT more people wrongfully convicted like Timothy was. Timothy may not have deserved the death penalty, but there are plenty of killers who do. What "human rights" do they have when they go around taking lives?
@justkallmej2983
@justkallmej2983 10 ай бұрын
This story taught me being smart or at least appearing and carrying yourself in a smart way can give you credibility even if your dishonest. Stay safe everyone.
@al333ly
@al333ly Жыл бұрын
I'm so pleased that you told Tim's story. He's normally just a sad side note to John Christie's story. Thank you John.
@user-me7is7cd6o
@user-me7is7cd6o Жыл бұрын
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@pamelamorris3148
@pamelamorris3148 Жыл бұрын
@@user-me7is7cd6o stop Trying to Hussle on another creator's channel. You need blocked.
@debrakleid5752
@debrakleid5752 Жыл бұрын
There is a show on here called “Murder Maps” and I think in this case it may be a 2 episode one but they do one about John Christie and Timothy Evans. Very sad case indeed.
@colinmackay92
@colinmackay92 Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Timothy. My grandfather was of lower intelligence and had a hard time throughout his life. Nothing like this obviously but listening to this it really reminded me of him. Timothy was definitely not perfect but he didn't deserve this. Rest in Peace.
@marycollins1024
@marycollins1024 Жыл бұрын
❤️
@Tenekai
@Tenekai Жыл бұрын
Timothy is as much a killer as anybody else who murders, inside or outside of the womb.
@RobinMarconeCassidyRN
@RobinMarconeCassidyRN Жыл бұрын
Sadly, your so right. I'm really sorry that your grandfather struggled during his lifetime. Unfortunately, it still happens to people with low IQ's. I work in mental health and its heartbreaking because these people know they're treated differently. They may have low IQ's but they're certainly not stupid.
@sophiew1967
@sophiew1967 Жыл бұрын
Tim Evans basically one of the main reasons we stopped the death sentence comp!eteky in the UK in 1963./ we hung a totally innocent man ..a man whose wife & child had been m urdered & then we say sorry after his death..I dont know the answer but the ddath pe nalty is no deterrent & its estimated in tbe US about 4-10 of all people on death row or have been executed all innocent people lime Tim Evans
@evelynzlon9492
@evelynzlon9492 Жыл бұрын
@@RobinMarconeCassidyRN Nowadays they have smart pills but only affluent people can afford them for their children. I don't know how much difference they make but combined with other treatments they can probably elevate an IQ like Timothy's to within an average range.
@iloveplasticbottles
@iloveplasticbottles 5 күн бұрын
"It wont bother you for long" is the coldest line ever
@kateisgreat85
@kateisgreat85 Жыл бұрын
I love how you tell these cases because sometimes I really think I haven’t heard of it then by the end I’m like oh I knew this case! Lol so it’s refreshing to hear about the victims instead of the murderers. 💜
@jayeshyadav8891
@jayeshyadav8891 Жыл бұрын
Story Recommendation : A series of murders took place in Delhi from 1998 to 2007 in which dissembled body parts were found in different areas of the city. The serial killer openly challenged the police department daring them to catch him. A lot of information about this case is available on the internet. The Serial killer was named "the butcher of Delhi".
@anthonysobeck2735
@anthonysobeck2735 Жыл бұрын
i second
@thedregking9410
@thedregking9410 Жыл бұрын
I third
@xeddtech
@xeddtech Жыл бұрын
I fourth
@vincentlyngdoh572
@vincentlyngdoh572 Жыл бұрын
I fifth
@toxic_kill_joy_6679
@toxic_kill_joy_6679 Жыл бұрын
I thought he already did that, or at least it was like that
@hnsnrachel1
@hnsnrachel1 Жыл бұрын
I knew from the intro what case this was going to be - my grandmother lived just round the corner from Christie and he had been in her house when he was a blackout officer during the war. She told this story all the time when I was growing up. Thanks for the nostalgia, she always approached it from the victims' perspective too, as much as was possible.
@jennarobin2748
@jennarobin2748 Жыл бұрын
Ooh, how interesting. Thank u for sharing. 🙂
@broryku
@broryku Жыл бұрын
🧢🧢🧢🧢
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree
@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Жыл бұрын
As soon as Mr Ballen said “wallpaper”, I guessed which case it was. My grandmother also lived in London and she followed this case and queued up to get into the public seating at the courtroom. She told me about this case when I was a child. I understand the council knocked down the apartment house so it would not become a tourist attraction.
@mered30
@mered30 Жыл бұрын
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree I read somewhere that they demolished 10 Rillington place and is now an empty spot
@dixiecushman5581
@dixiecushman5581 Жыл бұрын
Pppo
@viennasavage9110
@viennasavage9110 Жыл бұрын
Timothy is a perfect example of the power of tragedy. I wouldnt be surpised if he never had a happy moment in his life. That was a nightmare.
@pamelasimone5084
@pamelasimone5084 8 ай бұрын
He did have one bright spot in his life and that was little Geraldine. He believed the sun rose to shine on his baby girl. That is why he gave up all hope when he learned of Geraldine’s death.
@therealemp9189
@therealemp9189 6 ай бұрын
“it wont bother you for long” is the coldest one liner ever 😭
@indiaglasper748
@indiaglasper748 Жыл бұрын
whole story is literally heartbreaking💔 timothy was taken advantage of by both the police and john and didnt even know how to defend/protect himself in this situation
@aricayson669
@aricayson669 Жыл бұрын
agreed
@covahredro8370
@covahredro8370 Жыл бұрын
I don't feel sorry for the woman though, she wanted to murder a child.
@StrategicGamesEtc
@StrategicGamesEtc Жыл бұрын
@@covahredro8370 Timothy wanted to murder his child too.
@csar07.
@csar07. Жыл бұрын
@@covahredro8370 You gotta be joking they were clearly in poverty and having that child wouldve caused all sorts of problems for them and decreased their quality of living for the other child they were raising. Contraception wasnt popular then and the pill didnt even exist what are they supposed to do
@aricayson669
@aricayson669 Жыл бұрын
@@covahredro8370 u bein fr?
@MasonTorrey
@MasonTorrey Жыл бұрын
People like Timothy are the people we are supposed to get together and protect. He had no one. This really is the saddest story I've watched on this channel.
@dookiefingers8436
@dookiefingers8436 Жыл бұрын
Timothy was a P.o.S. as well. He got what he deserved.
@txellitri
@txellitri Жыл бұрын
Timothy is the one who we should “get together and protect”? Not his murdered wife or kid?
@daedae556
@daedae556 Жыл бұрын
@@txellitri Timothy too he was basically mentally challenged. The wife and daughter isn’t the only one who died.
@tenacious3911
@tenacious3911 Жыл бұрын
@@txellitri Especially as there is good evidence Evans was indeed guilty.
@goodiesohhi
@goodiesohhi Жыл бұрын
@@tenacious3911 Source?
@daniellemaines4874
@daniellemaines4874 3 ай бұрын
I’ve only recently discovered this channel so I’m binging. I’m British and, like a lot of people, have a morbid fascination with serial killers, so when you were saying things like “John felt empathy for Timothy” I was shouting at my TV “NO HE DIDN’T!” I don’t know why I continued watching because I know the story inside out. There’s a great movie starring Richard Attenborough as Christie, called 10 Rillington Place. You should definitely watch it if you haven’t seen it.
@LK2972
@LK2972 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! What a story, how sad but I’m so glad even after passing, he had the opportunity to clear his name. I really enjoy listening to you narrate these cases, I’m a visual person and the way you narrate them, makes it really easy to visualize 🥰 thanks,
@spiderboo464
@spiderboo464 Жыл бұрын
This one was just heartbreaking. Those photos of Timothy in police custody are so sad once you know the truth of his story. He lost everything... EVERYTHING. Far out. This story really got me Mr Ballen. 😞
@stomper5432
@stomper5432 Жыл бұрын
He was all put and about while his wife was getting smashed
@Jagsla
@Jagsla Жыл бұрын
Yeah his own fault!! He wants to kill his unborn child and an abortion goes from a baby being killed to 4 people killed... Smh poor children!! 😔
@sholva1324
@sholva1324 Жыл бұрын
I have heard others tell the same stories you have, and nothing compares to the level of detail you put into them. You almost feel like you're there. Love your work, keep them coming! 😁👍
@FussyPickles
@FussyPickles Жыл бұрын
it's because he makes all the details up.. like when he talks about how the people are feeling and so on, it's fiction
@christianromero6604
@christianromero6604 Жыл бұрын
@ahhhcool ?...ur unnecessarily unnerving
@crystal480
@crystal480 Жыл бұрын
The chapter is better
@maryjane4432
@maryjane4432 Жыл бұрын
@@christianromero6604 I reported their page and comments. It’s so disgusting what people do for attention
@melissadropdead4619
@melissadropdead4619 Жыл бұрын
@@maryjane4432... I did too. There are so many from this username.
@Aridzonia1
@Aridzonia1 6 ай бұрын
John, as one vet to another. Thank you for your “Great & Heroic” Service!!! Your a great storyteller too. Don’t let that high school immature bs get you down. You gave more then the ones still active. Thats why your not active and they still are. YOU GAVE MORE !
@deahh9867
@deahh9867 Жыл бұрын
I always watch mr ballen every time I fold our clothes or anytime that I’m free. Loving your stories from Philippines 🇵🇭
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 Жыл бұрын
Same. I feel kind of weird about it lol. But for some reason these stories are relaxing. Idk.
@gabrielmurillo5073
@gabrielmurillo5073 Жыл бұрын
My wife loves the fact that I can clean the whole kitchen while listening to his stories lol
@samuelgamato971
@samuelgamato971 Жыл бұрын
Watching from Cebu, maayong adlaw 👋
@merlin704
@merlin704 Жыл бұрын
As a dad of 2 girls....I cried for Geraldine. She didn't deserve to die at all.
@bluecanvas4029
@bluecanvas4029 Жыл бұрын
None of them did except John
@dannydarkense5500
@dannydarkense5500 Жыл бұрын
Probably the saddest part of this story. The rest is messed up and terrible, but to kill a baby...
@stevensmall9398
@stevensmall9398 Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I have 3 daughters myself.
@TengAi21
@TengAi21 Жыл бұрын
And we keep letting ass holes get away with murder and worse because the person is just good at manipulating our feelings.
@n.m.patterson7630
@n.m.patterson7630 Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@hotshot6923
@hotshot6923 Жыл бұрын
"Posthumously pardoned" is a slap on the face and disrespectful af. It's like, oh wow, now he can be innocent again in the eyes of the justice system that betrayed him and the public that shunned him. Rip Timothy, sorry you got what everybody else deserved
@matthewpetersen4417
@matthewpetersen4417 Жыл бұрын
Thats the brittish for you, so when you hear democrat think brittish law becaues thats exactly what that is. And this guy mr baller seems to love the brits.
@sarahbeaulieu999
@sarahbeaulieu999 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewpetersen4417 you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you 🙄
@michaelmartin1170
@michaelmartin1170 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewpetersen4417 ​ do yourself a favor and use a pen name because you sound ridiculous. And can’t even get this man’s name right let alone know what he loves. SMH
@matthewpetersen4417
@matthewpetersen4417 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahbeaulieu999 well if you would just expand your little mind you'd understand.
@Honks515
@Honks515 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewpetersen4417 could say the same to you, democrat law? 100% of this videos regarding law is more applicable to the republican party in the current US state. Abortion? Death penalty? Okay dude lmao educate yourself then you can blow me after
@judygodwin1777
@judygodwin1777 Жыл бұрын
OMG every detail about this story is tragic. That you for sharing this Mr Ballen.
@kitchenswitch3626
@kitchenswitch3626 Жыл бұрын
I don't care how busy your hands get when retelling stories, your 'Like' button scenarios separate you from not only the good, but the great. You're kind of a legend, keep up the stellar work, John. Ya got me binging!!
@GassanOfficial
@GassanOfficial Жыл бұрын
The helplessness for Timothy in this video, is beyond any human’s expectations. Rest in peace Mr. Timothy and his family plus all the victims of that murderer, john. The fact that he went on killing more people even after the innocent man’s execution, is itself horrifying. I was literally going to punch my phone on the side where he showed john’s picture after he told that john’s the real killer but not Mr. Timothy.
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
This is why I will never support the death penalty Unless a judicial system is perfect which it can't be, the death penalty is barbaric and inhumane and no society should consider itself civilized it enacts capital punishment. There's plenty of modern day examples of innocent people being put to death here in the United States, it would be nice if MrBallen did an episode on on one of these.
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 Жыл бұрын
That was infuriating. 🤬 What a low life.. It's hard to fathom being that soulless to enjoy torturing to death a helpless woman and her child and your supposed best friends wife and child at that 🤦 Unbelievable.
@tonyisnotdead
@tonyisnotdead Жыл бұрын
@@EJ-74 men too
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 Жыл бұрын
@@tonyisnotdead men too ??? Not sure I understand or did you mean to say me too 🤔
@Ashahlayyy
@Ashahlayyy Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Timothy. The poor lad lived such a strenuous life, I wish he was given a second chance to make things better. Hopefully him and his family are resting in peace now.
@ashtonbull5758
@ashtonbull5758 Жыл бұрын
Life is hard it's harder when you're stupid that's a quote from John Wayne
@mayflower5193
@mayflower5193 Жыл бұрын
Ya, most serial killers also have extremly traumatic and difficult lives but... ehh
@ronaldhodges8665
@ronaldhodges8665 Жыл бұрын
@@ashtonbull5758 0q
@TrojanLube69
@TrojanLube69 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he might be in hell.
@peterf.229
@peterf.229 Жыл бұрын
Nice fantasy , as the afterlife isn’t a reality. The afterlife only makes you feel better .
@allismile0
@allismile0 5 күн бұрын
This will probably always be my favorite Mr. Ballin video. The storytelling is so well organized and the story itself is so nuts
@mzspargo
@mzspargo Жыл бұрын
“Wait, my nose itches!” “It won’t bother you for long.” 😂😂😂
@alirosebest831
@alirosebest831 Жыл бұрын
poor Timothy couldn’t catch a break his whole life! can’t imagine the terrible mix of emotions he felt when he learned not only that his daughter was dead but that he’d be the one hanged for it
@jarredfugleberg3994
@jarredfugleberg3994 Жыл бұрын
He probably felt so much guilt over his wife and daughter that he probably thought it was some kind of karma
@StarMercurian
@StarMercurian Жыл бұрын
Literally was thinking about this the entire time. And how sad because he was taken advantage of by someone who knew his weaknesses. His poor wife and his poor baby too... Sometimes it sucks being an empath....
@donotcomply665
@donotcomply665 Жыл бұрын
It's clear that Timothy and his family were suffering from too much white privilege
@AntonioEligius
@AntonioEligius Жыл бұрын
He's burning in Hell anyway for trying to get an abortion...
@sandecox6031
@sandecox6031 Жыл бұрын
😢
@shaunhw
@shaunhw Жыл бұрын
This is one of the cases, which eventually brought about the abolition of the death penalty in the UK. One other was the case of Derek Bentley, a young man who was hanged, but who never killed anyone, and who was technically in police custody when the killing crime happened. In the Evans/Christie case, the UK government's Home Office, ludicrosly tried to claim that there must have been two murderers living at the same address, rather that face the reality that an innocent man had been executed...
@wandabellamy9171
@wandabellamy9171 Жыл бұрын
😔😪
@John_Lumbra
@John_Lumbra Жыл бұрын
Very sad
@nomorelg6726
@nomorelg6726 Жыл бұрын
Thats the one where the technicality was he said "let him have it chris" but the meaning of the statement was unclear. I remember doing this in drama and found it rly sad
@louiscyphre833
@louiscyphre833 Жыл бұрын
As I said in an earlier comment reply, how much responsibility should the police accept, because time and again it's clearly down to their rush for results and failure to assess the full picture adequately in a steady rate of time, that are the causes of these heartbreaking injustices. In a time when there was no rolling back the clock because of the death penalty, way too many innocent people lost their lives. Albert Pierrepoint, the last hangman in England, who famously killed Ruth Ellis and Bentley, lived next door to my school friend's family. It was a handed down family trade and he extolled how death was not a deterrent. The fact that the futility of killing so many without that ever preventing a murder, or achieving anything positive, was something that haunted him ultimately. 'An eye for an eye and soon the whole world will be blind' : Mahatma Ghandi.
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs Жыл бұрын
Hopefully it also contributed to the legalisation of abortion in the following decade
@Sh0lya
@Sh0lya Жыл бұрын
Incredibly passionate retelling of this horrific story Mr Ballen. Much respect 🙏
@MeredithHammett
@MeredithHammett Жыл бұрын
There is a book written about Timothy's life and death by a person who knew him well. My ex read it and caught him wiping tears a few times. This story is so heartbreaking.
@sunna8476
@sunna8476 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Mr. Ballen puts a lot of work into his videos, I'm not sad he doesn't upload 3-5 times a week anymore, I don't want him to burn out. I'd rather have him keep uploading at a pace he is comfortable with so he can continue making great content. He always includes every little detail, even some that are hard to find, he makes sure nothing is missing of the story, as well as then composing those details into great storytelling. I've got so much respect for what he does. This video is great, so many details, as usual. Thank you for all you do Mr. Ballen 👏
@cheepymcpeepy
@cheepymcpeepy Жыл бұрын
So long as we get some videos once in a while.... so long as the podcasts show up sometimes...it'll be okay.
@kendallevans4079
@kendallevans4079 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with his ability to speak for so long without his voice cracking, I couldn't do that!
@garden_geek
@garden_geek Жыл бұрын
Definitely. I’d rather of quality over quantity.
@Moonlakes
@Moonlakes Жыл бұрын
dont forget that he also has a tiktok and a podcast, and every monday the podcast has a podcast-exclusive episode, which has not been posted on his youtube. really worth to check out in my opinion. the podcast episodes are also 40-50minutes long.
@22guru
@22guru Жыл бұрын
Yeah what she said
@thomassimons208
@thomassimons208 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes life gets so unfair
@pastadeadman4594
@pastadeadman4594 Жыл бұрын
It totally make sense that a WW1 vet became a serial killer. The horrifically gruesome shit he'd have seen in wasteland of no-man's land... there never was, and never will be, a war quite as intensely brutal as the Great War. Plus, the part where he wanted to "smell the death all around him"... would've also been something he experienced on the front line. Since it was often too dangerous to collect and bury fallen comrades, their corpses would sit out and rot for days or weeks. And due to the extremely static nature of trench warfare, you and your enemies' positions would barely move, if at all.
@urbanguerrillaproductions
@urbanguerrillaproductions Жыл бұрын
Totally vibing with Timothy. I was in a coma when I was 16 and suffered from brain damage and mild paralysis of my right side. Employers have been less than kind. The last time I was fired it made me think wow no one will ever give Me a real chance
@barneythepurpledinosaur7002
@barneythepurpledinosaur7002 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that
@yeahmike3847
@yeahmike3847 Жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope things get better for you
@melissadowning-george9535
@melissadowning-george9535 Жыл бұрын
Sending good vibes….most employers suck!
@wendybutler1681
@wendybutler1681 Жыл бұрын
Wish I was in the position to offer you a job.
@lizabethgussman331
@lizabethgussman331 Жыл бұрын
Live in the U.S.A? Get a lawyer.
@denverruff1024
@denverruff1024 Жыл бұрын
I'm SO happy for you bro. To go from 2k views when I first started to watch you, and told EVERYONE about you, to now having your own charity is amazing bro. You deserve all of it. And, I'm glad you're using your "nfluence" to help others. Shows what kind of man you are. Thank you. And, thank you for all the amazing stories.
@MrBallen
@MrBallen Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@jamesroberthyland1756
@jamesroberthyland1756 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBallen read a book called "dairy of Jack the ripper" there's an American woman who gets life in book..it will change your view on Jack the ripper for good..eye opener..I couldn't put the book down..diary found under floor in house in Liverpool.. you'll get one hell of a good story out of it..
@GuineaPigLuna
@GuineaPigLuna Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most bizarre and terribly sad stories I’ve heard.
@nect-a-nene8657
@nect-a-nene8657 Жыл бұрын
Usually I hate story/Reddit channels but this is the one channel I love. the story telling is amazing and isn’t just low quality repeating a story from Reddit.
@izzatihassan1475
@izzatihassan1475 Жыл бұрын
The moment I heard the name John Christie I know where this story would end. Youre the first to retell this story from the Timothy 's side. Most people just mention him as another one of John's many victims. Poor Tim, Geraldine and Beryl. Rest in peace.
@santsi7306
@santsi7306 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad we got it from his perspective. Ballen is good about that, I guess that's why he's so fun to watch.
@ht3261
@ht3261 Жыл бұрын
💛🙋🏼‍♀️YES!! That is EXACTLY what I just said!!! I thought that story was crazy enough but this is just a whole new batch of crazy wrapped in a crazy story! Mr. Ballen is AMAZING! I LIVE HIM!
@allissag
@allissag Жыл бұрын
So true. It was definitely a different perspective.
@debscharles4674
@debscharles4674 Жыл бұрын
The way this was written was incredible, outstanding. I live in a creepy old house in London, similar to the house in the story and it literally sent shivers down my spine. Another fantastic story telling 👏
@PeaceDweller
@PeaceDweller Жыл бұрын
For anybody interested there was a movie released in 1971 called "10 Rillington Place" which is about the case starring Richard Attenborough and John Hurt, their portrayal of John Christie and Timothy Evans is out of this world, especially Richard's performance, he almost makes Norman Bates look nice.
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs Жыл бұрын
@@PeaceDweller indeed, for me it's his best performance - being a child of the 60s I'd only seen him in war movies, or Brighton Rock before seeing 10 Rillington Place, I did sleep overnight in the actual appartment block that was built on its foundations though before "Dickie" descended into farce(Jurassic Park)
@debscharles4674
@debscharles4674 Жыл бұрын
@@PeaceDweller I think I've seen the movie recently but definitely worth a look again and thanks for the info, I was looking for the location it happened in
@ua1153
@ua1153 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping up with us. I love your stories.
@kennethhaughton4538
@kennethhaughton4538 Жыл бұрын
Good story John. Didn't know it was a movie. BTW, I'm sure that whomever waits for your cryptic tells at the start then the end of these vids, gets it every time. Way too go! GOD BLESS MR. B!
@nikkicunningham3675
@nikkicunningham3675 Жыл бұрын
Heard this story before but it was just about John and what he did, love how you told it with more information on Timothy and his family, the victims are more important to learn about in my opinion, great job!!
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 Жыл бұрын
THAT is why I oppose the death penalty. The courts make mistakes & once a person is dead, you cannot bring them back to life. The mistake cannot be undone. But with life imprisonment, the mistake can be compensated by releasing the person & paying 10-20 years of lost wages (if they had been free & working) ,
@karinadams3303
@karinadams3303 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of David Millgard?
@Loki-and-Thor
@Loki-and-Thor Жыл бұрын
@@karinadams3303 I haven’t. I will check him out. Have you heard Derek Bentley and Let Him Have It?
@lurchadams2400
@lurchadams2400 Жыл бұрын
i like how he told it like he made john just a foot note really and made tim the star
@doomsdaytaco3819
@doomsdaytaco3819 Жыл бұрын
@@electrictroy2010 I personally agree with the death penalty, however I believe it should be reserved for very specific crimes/offences against humanity such as certain kinds of murder, certain kinds of rape, and probably a few other crimes. I also think that the death penalty must only be considered if there is no evidence pointing towards innocence and it all points towards guilty
@melaniejerrils3671
@melaniejerrils3671 Жыл бұрын
Aw man poor Tim. The guy def went thru alot in his pretty short life and then had the misfortune of running into his serial killer neighbor. I hope he can Rip now that the truth is out
@sarahsmith6118
@sarahsmith6118 Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert
@sarahsmith6118
@sarahsmith6118 Жыл бұрын
(100% a joke lol)
@Tenekai
@Tenekai Жыл бұрын
He's as much a murderer as the serial killer. He got what he deserved, and one day all murderers of unborn children will be served justice.
@MERCEDESX111
@MERCEDESX111 Жыл бұрын
@ahhhcool sick f*ck
@Irunwithscissors63
@Irunwithscissors63 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he’d be aware of the truth coming out. He’d be resting in peace regardless
@lucahecker7495
@lucahecker7495 Жыл бұрын
Mr ballen your videos are awesome ive binging for the past weeks and listening to alot of Those. the way youre telling them is awesome keep doing your good work. They also help to improve my english 👍🏻👍🏻 Greetings from Germany
@angelalewis92
@angelalewis92 2 ай бұрын
Love your channel. Rillington Place! Wow. I’ve read and heard so many accounts of it over the years, so it isn’t new to me, but I was riveted thanks to your incredible story telling ability! Just awesome.
@hannahsolomon3927
@hannahsolomon3927 Жыл бұрын
I remember my mum telling me about this when I was younger and told me that when it was hanging day that when you would have to go past the prison it was a very depressing atmosphere and everyone was very quiet and she remembered when executions were stopped mainly because of massive mistakes which lead innocent men and women to the gallows and a few years after her older brother ended up marrying a woman who's father was involved in the executions and from what I heard about him is that he was a very cold and hard faced man who didn't actually care about the fact that many innocent people were effectively murdered because of botched police work and my mum ended up telling him exactly what she thought of him and that wasn't very much. The UK has got a long history of botched police work that lead to this happening.
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 Жыл бұрын
thats not the hangmans problem ! his job is to carry out the sentence on behalf of the people
@kimhafner7463
@kimhafner7463 Жыл бұрын
True it is his job to carry out the executions but that does not mean you should have no empathy for the innocent people who were executed. That's the same as the Nazis saying they were just following orders when massacring men, women, and children
@rebeccacarlson9166
@rebeccacarlson9166 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure he had empathy at one time, but it's not a joyful job to kill someone, so it would eventually wear anyone down and harden their emotions.
@rebeccacarlson9166
@rebeccacarlson9166 Жыл бұрын
@@kimhafner7463 I know what you're trying to say here and it's a good thought... but a comparison between a hangman and a Nazi soldier who committed war crimes is totally off. For your future reference, you don't need to make any comparisons to justify your comment because you're very capable of getting your point across without one. (That is a compliment)
@HippieInHeart
@HippieInHeart Жыл бұрын
I mean, I guess that's just what happens when your job is to literally kill people on a regular basis. Kinda hard to deeply care about human lives and at the same time continue kill people day in day out just because someone somewhere came to the conclusion that those people should die. Sooner or later the executioners will be forced to give up either their empathy or their job.
@winterdream5710
@winterdream5710 Жыл бұрын
I see people thumbs up instantly like I do when Mr Ballen comes out with a new one. You just know it's going to be a good story ☺️
@gayathryrajeev7606
@gayathryrajeev7606 Жыл бұрын
YES. So relatable, haha
@freyamariano106
@freyamariano106 Жыл бұрын
I just did that!
@bandgeek2499
@bandgeek2499 Жыл бұрын
Literally read that as I was hitting the like button lol
@subtleartofnotgivingaf5861
@subtleartofnotgivingaf5861 Жыл бұрын
@@bandgeek2499 me too lmao
@MellowMaromi
@MellowMaromi Жыл бұрын
I do it at the beginning of every video so I can easily see if I've already watched it (due to memory issues) without having to wait for the Like Button Brutality.
@user-bs9zp5bf1m
@user-bs9zp5bf1m 10 ай бұрын
MrBallen is heaven sent... love the story telling although some stories can be horrific like this one.
@AndreasGrech
@AndreasGrech Жыл бұрын
Highly recommend the film '10 Rillington Place' about this case, with phenomenal performances by John Hurt and Richard Attenborough. It perfectly portrays the bleakness and all round miserable atmosphere around that whole area and the horrible crimes committed by Christie.
@giovanna722
@giovanna722 Жыл бұрын
I just posted that, too. Attenborough and Hurt were amazing, as was the depiction of the poverty in post war London.
@AndreasGrech
@AndreasGrech Жыл бұрын
@@giovanna722 "Christie done it! I say Christie done it." - it's truly bone chilling
@ann-sylvianalule305
@ann-sylvianalule305 Жыл бұрын
.. it was indeed a good movie .. stumbled on it by accident .. I was totally gripped!
@TheLadyBandit
@TheLadyBandit Жыл бұрын
I was just saying to myself "this would make an awesome movie"
@rodneykingston6420
@rodneykingston6420 Жыл бұрын
It was actually filmed at 7 Rillington Place (only a few doors down from the building where the murders took place) - a virtually identical building.
@brendaschultz7161
@brendaschultz7161 Жыл бұрын
My grandad was an amazing storyteller and told the best scary tales. My cousins and I always sat wide eyed at his feet. I no longer have him in my life but now I sit around wide eyed and listen to you.
@scottbelcher9026
@scottbelcher9026 Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!
@citizenstranger
@citizenstranger Жыл бұрын
thats wierd about the feet 🤢
@brendaschultz7161
@brendaschultz7161 Жыл бұрын
@@citizenstranger of course he always got his chair and we got the floor. I could sit Indian style back then.
@comcastjohn
@comcastjohn Жыл бұрын
I love your video content and how you narrate the story format. Thanks a bunch. I subbed a couple of weeks ago. Keep up the great work. 👍😎
@ericaespinosa4030
@ericaespinosa4030 Жыл бұрын
This story, as do many of Mr.Ballen's stories usually, just blew my mind again! What a shockingly, horribly sad story.
@lynncarter3565
@lynncarter3565 Жыл бұрын
After watching, I’m so sad and sorry for Timothy and his family. This was truly a case of severe injustice. The real perpetrator got what they finally deserved, although too little too late. Such a sad story told brilliantly by Mr B
@shadownight848
@shadownight848 Жыл бұрын
Only enough evidence to charge him with one murder? There were literally 4 bodies in his apartment that were found right after he moved out. I'm starting to see the problems with their police work.
@asherhouseman6838
@asherhouseman6838 Жыл бұрын
Those police officers were not exactly Sherlock Holmes, were they!
@ashnthree
@ashnthree Жыл бұрын
doesn't matter even if he had 100 bodies under there if theres only proof for one no matter what the cops think they can only try him for one
@WolfdogsRescue
@WolfdogsRescue Жыл бұрын
Right. And he supposedly admitted to the 8 murders. Isn’t that what got Timothy? Lol
@ashnthree
@ashnthree Жыл бұрын
@@WolfdogsRescue yea, but a confession still needs proof or motive
@ashnthree
@ashnthree Жыл бұрын
@@WolfdogsRescue Timothy had motive
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