Thanks Mr Pete. Your lessons are priceless. And the videos will be on the internet for all future generations to gather knowledge and wisdom.

If you google for spring mandrel calculator you can find a web page that lets you figure out what size mandrel you need in order to produce the desired diameter for any wire size.

Had to make thousands in 3/16" steel Sub Arc welding wire back in the day. Starting with a hole in your mandrel creates its own problem. How to get your coil off ! Doing it by hand (on production) we were able to start the bend. Then extract the wire out of the hole a bit and continue to wind the coil. This gave us a loop to nip off when we needed to remove the coil. We developed all sorts of slots welded to the mandrel to eliminate the problem. Also .. Not letting the loose end flick out but relaxing gently the winding pressure stops the spring back making the rings different sizes. We actually made some out of 1/2" round and square black mild steel by hand ( cold ) down to about 2 1/2" OD. Much easier if they were bigger OD.

Nice. I used my lathe and a pvc pipe to wrap copper tubing and make a coil yesterday. Pro tip: when bending copper tubing, fill it with sand first and it won’t flatten around tight bends.

I made a torsional spring for my trailer locking mechanism by machining an arbour and using a screw to hold the wire, but the screw wasn't strong enough, so I drilled a cross hole. I fed the wire through the cross hole via a wooden guide in the tool post, turning the lathe by hand, moving the tool post by eye, no power, then cutting the spring off where it went into the cross hole. It worked magnificently and completely restored one of the fail safes on my trailer hitch. I had an enormous sense of achievement and delight with the job, smiling from ear to ear. Thank you for sharing this super useful information.

In the last step, the bending, it is much better to close the rings first in the vice and after that rotate the open ends to match each other with the pliers. In that way you can compensate for the springback, by pushing a little more than closed.

You’re a great teacher Mr Pete, I could have only dream of learning this valuableł information that most youngsters these days would have passed you by.not taking much time to stop and watch your work, I think that you do an awesome job and I am grateful for what you have made, I wish You all the very best wishes for 2020 and beyond......Phil in the UK 🇬🇧

This video is just in time, my girlfriend has been dropping hints about a ring for a while now.

That was Fun Mr. Pete, Thanks! Remember dad showing me this when I was a kid doing U-control model airplanes...much smaller wire

I've come across your videos a few times now. Always a good lesson and you're helping a young guy get his machine shop running. Thanks Mr Pete and keep having fun

Lyle's Rings 'n' Springs, LLC. Has a nice 'ring' to it!

Oh, The Rings on the Bus go round and round - Thanks Lyle - Stay Safe, Stay Strong, God Bless

Thank you Mr Pete. Now I am going to have to come up with an excuse to do this. I'm glad you are having fun.

That reminds me that I need a new spring on my floor jack, now I know how to make it.

Made lots of cooling coils for laboratory experiments using this technique. One trick to use when score marks on the material aren't allowed is to make two pinch blocks using nylon. The blocks are mounted in the tool holder and may be adjusted to put drag on the tubing. If the coil diameter and spacing have to be held closely, cutting a guide groove in the mandrel for the tubing can be helpful. There are formulas for figuring the mandrel diameter, but I found that trial and error was quicker and gave better results. If you are trying to hold +/-0.005" on the coil diameter the formula isn't going to get you close enough... it is a start, but you still end up having to sneak up on the correct diameter for the mandrel. Instead of a hole in the mandrel to anchor the tube a cross drilled threaded hole was used and then then the end of the tube could be clamped to the mandrel. As others have noted this makes controlling the tube easier and you can still get it off the mandrel without having to cut it. I think the largest coil I ever had to make was three 20ft. lengths of annealed stainless steel tubing, 3/4" diameter, that was butt welded into a 60ft. tube. Coil was 10" in diameter +/- 1/16". After making short test sections to get the mandrel diameter correct the tubing was laid out across the the shop and the coil was made in one shot on the lathe. Cheers from NC/USA

And another door opens.... Making a gigantic wooden clothespin his been on my To-Do list for some time. The wooden part was easy. Now I have a starting point for the spring... Thanks!

This is an interesting method to do spring and rings, thank you for share Mr. Pete

Loved this video sir! I have fun every time I enter my little shop. I also have fun learning from you. You’re such an excellent teacher❤️

That takes me back. One of the first lathe jobs I ran was winding resistors from nichrome wire just like that. Thanks for the video.

Mr Pete amazes me again!!! Great video!!!

You're right, Mr Pete! I enjoy my shop and tools. It has taken many years to gather my machines and tools, but it's been worth it. I'm retired now so I can start a larger project and finish it without having to wait for weekends and spare time. Usually a day and half with assembly, welding, and painting. Very enjoyable. I really enjoy your vids and wealth of knowledge put out here for zero $. I'd sure like to find one of those smaller shapers like you have. Really a larger one, but I'm getting challenged for floor space. Great job, and thanks again!

Just did this back in june. Made a pile of rings from 25 mm to 75 mm to make ball for wifes bday. Did on lathe 26 rpm, 6 meter lengths of 1/4" mild steel fed by leather gloves onto mandril with hole drilled. Sure was a lot of fun but pretty dangerous. When you are approaching 70 danger is fun.ball was 400 mm. Had 180 rings in it

Loved it, thank you. Been adapting a taper attachment onto my 12x36 lathe - most fun I've had in 2 months.

I did this back at the high-school but never let the kids do this...in the south we called that the hay guys watch this moments. This is similar to what new armorists learn first, to make the rings for chainmail.

that's so creative, I want to have life friends like you, it's always hard to find people who love their work and wants to be more and more creative, as you said most of people waste their time watching tv and doing nothing useful. Thumbs up

Always enjoying your class.

Very nice results. Thanks for the video.

Great tip, Mr.Pete! That really is fun to watch. Great for making torsion springs.

Strangely satisfying to watch,, thanks Pete

Really fun video Mr. Pete!👍👍

That was interesting, thanks. I had seen the spring making before but hadn't thought about how you could also then make rings

Awesome video Mr. Pete. I don't need any rings but now I have to try it.

brilliant! ., i've been beating myself up looking for a rear brake lever return spring for an old Triumph, they were all wound in the wrong direction or way too many coils to fit between the brake drum plate and the lever, Just what I wanted. Thanks.

This is great, Mr. Pete at his best.

Thanks Mr Pete that was interesting.

That is a really neat process, recently I was in Charleston S.C at a shipyard machine shop and they were making 1" steel springs for some purpose but the steel was almost cherry red. Thanks Mr Pete and I love your channel.

This is a great video. it looks like an easy project too. It looks lke you can make so many things with this method too. We could make lock washers with a little heat treatment ( maybe without heat too) we can make split key-rings, we could make chain.

Another interesting video. Who knew that making rings would be the topic of the day. Coffee and rings in the morning.

Mr Pete. I made some springs on my Atlas lathe by keeping the power off and using a crescent wrench to turn the jaws by hand. Slow but works. Thank you for your fine videos

Great teaching aid, keep it up! Hey have a nice day.

Absolutely incredible Thanks as always Mr Pete, I'm enjoying a couple of hours catching up on some of your videos, the magnification and lighting one, was very inspirational, even as a mid 50 year old, my eye's need plenty of help

Always interesting thank you. Since I got a lathe and mill I haven't watched TV in years and enjoy my tools and workshop

Thanks for share knowledge Mr. Pete.

Good stuff to know, thanks for sharing Mr. Pete!

Super cool. I asked my shop teacher in school once how to make a spring and I think he forgot about it lol

Dude, You've still got it.

One of your most interesting videos ever! The next best thing to making things in your own shop is watching Mr. Pete videos.

The Stanley #2 is my favorite. Have a couple of them, use them almost every day, weekends included. I don't watch TV.

mrpete it has been some time since I have been able to watch all your videos (Sure did miss ya my friend!!!) Well I am back now and I have to say that there is something EXTREMELY SATISFYING in watching this video!!!! Lol not to mention it is a good way to make small landing gear for model planes and as ALWAYS TWO THUMBS UP Sir! and Thank you for posting!!!! btw I am off to catch up on watching all your WONDERFUL videos that I missed !!!

Super Cool Mr. Pete as a child my Father had his shop in our basement and he gave me a section to set up my Slot Cars and Electric trains i often would “ tidy “ up his tools and Workbench including putting all the hardware in the correct storage containers for him for some reason i was always intrigued with Springs and their resistance to not losing their original shape of course i knew very little about Metalurgy as a kid more specifically changing the molecular structure through heat and cooling

Thank you again Mr Pete for your sharing your knowledge with us. Could you please make a video on compression springs 👍🏻

As a bowmaker, I often have to do a similar procedure, but for a very different purpose. Modern violin bows usually have a silver winding around the stick near the end where it's held. I usually use my left hand as the lathe and my right as the feeder, but some people do it on lathes. Very nice stuff. Thanks for the good work. Cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott

I really enjoyed that Mr Pete.

Very interesting video. I really enjoyed the subject. Thanks and stay safe.

Pretty cool! Also a testament as to how much you DON'T wanna get caught in a lathe! Didn't even break a sweat curling that .25" Thanks for the share! Very satisfying 👍😁👍

Hey Mr Pete. Liked this video a lot. When I need a dingy thingy I tack the end of the wire, up to 1/4”, to a mandrel with the wire vertical and use a knurling roll or smooth roll to follow at 1.2 times wire dia. From the mandrel in forward with reverse thread feed. Comes out great. Usually have a coil laying around the shop somewhere waiting to be cut into individual rings. The drawback to my method is pressure on the cross feed but it doesn’t pick up on the carriage like I notice your method doing. Never tried it with anything but mild steel. Any way I always enjoy hearing from someone a little my senior. Bless you.

Might have worked better to "close" the ring first then straighten it with the wrench, that way you can work with the spring back not against it. My son, when he was 12-ish made a bunch of rings out of light wire for a chainmail project. In his bedroom, on the carpet. I am still finding bits of metal 20 years later.

I have made coils this way before as spacers and such. It is very satisfying, but yes, you need to be sure your fingers are out of the way, eye protection is on, and don't stand in line with the tool holder. Other than that... not bad. Thank you for another great video!

Best advise....stay away from TV...Love it.

with the same lathe, could one make those springs that hold garden shears and wire cutters open?

Good job teaching some young bucks a few old tricks. 👍🏼

Now you are ready for the next winter project, making chain mail armor! Keep up the good work, that was fun!

Looks fun I'm going to try. Thanks

Great video Mr Pete

Another great video Mr Pete. I don't imagine they teach this in present day shop class as the students would likely use them as nose rings and ear lobe expanders.

Awesome! I've never seen it done on a lathe before! I guess you could heat it red hot and quench it in a oil bath to temper it too!

I bet those music wire torsion springs were exciting to make. I've made music wire springs with a homemade winder with up to 0.040" or 0.050" wire, but those looked MUCH larger. I hope to see your technique in a future video.

Very informative. Thank you.

Fun making rings from springs, what an idea!!!

Used to use an old clapped out lathe to make rings for chain maille assembly. Used 1/4 inch mandrel with a follow rest and wire guide with high tensile fence wire. They would spring back to just under 3/8" Worked real good.

That's for showing this very good information to have.

Great job Mr. Pete ! ! ! Those nice large welded heavy rings are great for cinching ropes good and tight. I even use them with pairs of ratchet straps. You can really hold something where you want it with a little practice. I never tried making them myself, but I do have a welder and an old garage door spring laying around somewhere..........

Those torsion springs are perfect for making landing gear for model airplaines. Thanks!

Wow you could use 1inch stock turn most down to 3/4 inch then drill a hole in the 1 inch area to push end in for more controlled anchor !! Love it !!

That was fun to watch.

Nice job Mr Pete! I wonder if that would work with 1/8" copper tubing?

Really enjoyed watching this. Could you do a video on square and hexagon rings if you fancy it

Loved the video.... :)

This is great Mr. Pete, thanks a lot!

I an tickled pink to see that hacksaw seeing good honest use in your hands!!

I remember back in 2003 I was deployed to Operation Iraqi Freedom. I made a hand cranked ring maker for a friend who was a member of SCA, and wanted to make chain mail body armor from recycled coathangers. The rings turned out about 1/2" diameter, which my friend would "knit" together with two pairs of pliers while relaxing and watching movies in the evening. By the end of the deployment he had his chain mail shirt. Took thousands of those little rings, and probably hundreds of metal coathangers too! (We got our uniforms back from the contract laundry service on the coathangers). The ring maker was just a block of wood drilled through with about a 10mm scrap piece of rod bent in a crank shape and a slot cut in one end to put the wire through, and a nail for the wire to wind against. Very simple!

Like your videos a lot! Is there an issue with your lead screw or half nut? The carriage seems to not move smoothly when it just gets going

At work we had a hand powered spring winder from Mc master Carr it worked ok for what we needed but it was a mix of cast iron steel mandrel and a cast iron frame.

Thanks for the video!

Thank you Mr. Pete!!! What thin saw would you recommend for cutting a coil of Stainless steel 14 awg 5/16ths jump rings? It has to be a thin cut if I'm going to close them properly.

Very slick!!!

I had made a lot of small springs this way for scale models . The heat your getting is most likely the pressure of the wire pushing upward in your mandrel. Music wire and (small) half-hard brass makes neat little springs. I check out a lot of your videos. If you want to see some of the models I built, look at the photos on my Facebook. I made many different metal mechanical custom projects. VERY FEW PEOPLE CARE OR KNOW HOW THINGS ARE MADE "OLD SCHOOL" I look at something that needs to be made , I DON'T ASK MYSELF IF I CAN DO IT, I ASK MYSELF HOW I CAN DO IT. Great vids, thanks for showing people. Lou Cuviello

I was thinking while watching this, One could do the same process, but have the lateral speed faster to create a spring. 👍

Hey Mr Pete, it was cool seeing stills of the Lufkin book ;)

I recall 25 years ago making tubing coils of 3/4 and 1 inch tubing using exactly the same method. We had a huge pipe lathe (the spindle hole would accommodate 6" pipe) and it would take three of us to do it. The tubing we used came in 40 foot lengths. We did this cold and there was minimal springback.

Very instructional a fella could make his own chain.

That worked pretty slick.

Looks like a good start on a nice suit or chain mail.

Good stuff

Great Demo on the wire coiling. Next 1/2" Stainless.

Very Cool!

I wonder if there is a mrpete check box on the hospital admission sheet.

Thank you, a very interesting video. I liked the nice profile image of you.

Thank you for sharing mr.pete! I have been waiting to get my hands on a lathe. Covid sure slowed it down eh?

THANK YOU...for sharing. Yes.