'Mrs. Maisel' Cast Reacts To Series Finale

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Graeme ONeil

Graeme ONeil

Жыл бұрын

After taking a look at what the cast has to say about the final episode, Graeme O'Neil reacts to the series finale of "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel".

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@lindamerry7738
@lindamerry7738 Жыл бұрын
I loved the scene where Midge's father is realizing that the women in his life are the exceptional ones. His granddaughter turns out to be a physicist and it finally dawns on him how amazing his daughter is ... what an exceptional series this has been. From the dialogue, clothes, sets, incredible cast ... this was the best show ever. So sad it ended.
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Жыл бұрын
didn't saw it that way, but you're so right
@chrishaley5857
@chrishaley5857 11 ай бұрын
The last minutes do suggest that she is not completely happy even though she’s achieved what she always wanted. I think the forward flashes with her adult children show that too - ultimately, her career came first.
@quijotachapina1
@quijotachapina1 10 ай бұрын
I almost cried, I wish someday I'll hear words like those from my father.
@GLVSCOW
@GLVSCOW 6 ай бұрын
I felt the same way, like it echoed the sacrifice of her marriage, children upbringing, and her own relationships with everyone in her life. It wasn't a simple happy ending, but very bitter sweet after rooting for her after each episode.@@chrishaley5857
@saulturner3567
@saulturner3567 20 күн бұрын
you shouldn't be sad that it ended, you should rejoice that it didn't turned into a 15 seasons garbage like most shows.
@mrs.donglover2586
@mrs.donglover2586 Жыл бұрын
Lenny Bruce is a real life ground breaking comedian -he was her mentor and his guidance is what contributed to her success when she finally made it on the show. Women don’t need husbands to be successful. Her career was her husband -the most important relationship in her life was with Susie. Romantic love was never the driver in this series. When she gave up marriage to go on the road is evidence of my statement.
@rscats67
@rscats67 Жыл бұрын
Also, the moment she agrees to tour with Shy Baldwin she tells Joel that in that 5 second conversation, she realized that she was also choosing to live her life alone. She would always be alone. So that final scene of her walking through her over-sized house showed that she got to exactly where she said she'd be, exactly where she knew she would be. Plus all those family photos showed she never let go of them, including (and especially) Joel.
@cherylvath4243
@cherylvath4243 8 ай бұрын
That’s the perfect simplistic explanation of the entire series…..her choice, her drive, her ultimate goal - she loved her children, but the monologue she gave at the end wasn’t coincidental that the “bit” she did had her trying to recall their names…..I loved that irony
@marcopl17
@marcopl17 3 ай бұрын
Joel was and likely remained the love of her life. I always wished they'd both back together
@rebekoko
@rebekoko Жыл бұрын
We see Miriam ‘alone’ at the end which makes perfect sense; she had two great loves, her career and Susie. Midge lived and created the exact life she wanted. Joel was also a great love in her life, her protector and perhaps all her failed marriages fell short of what she and Joel shared….the finale is a perfect ending As for Lenny Bruce, we’ll his character was enormously influential in her success and we see his demise handled with dignity in the show..a very sad true life story and we needed that final scene to understand where this pivotal relationship ended up.
@pamelafulks582
@pamelafulks582 Жыл бұрын
If you don't get the "Lenny thing" you don't GET it.Period. It's also not about being without a husband.When you have time....please rewatch the series.
@robinlarsendiy
@robinlarsendiy Жыл бұрын
I was searching for this comment. Being invested in the whole series is what makes you "GET" those last scenes with Lenny and being alone in the penthouse.
@yazzy123
@yazzy123 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear more. The last thing we hear him say is something along the lines of « next time you will be buying food for a junkie.. » they both acknowledged his addiction, she tried to get him out of it with Susie’s help but maybe the best she could do for him is be his friend and not lover? And vice versa? Idk I could be super off but I would love to hear more about your thoughts on Lenny
@robinlarsendiy
@robinlarsendiy Жыл бұрын
​@@yazzy123 The real life Lenny committed suicided via Morphine over dose in Aug of '66. The last two scenes we see of him are in "61 and '65. I believe they were alluding events that lead up to it and the helplessness that his friends felt during his downward spiral.
@GraemeONeil
@GraemeONeil Жыл бұрын
Well, I saw The Marvelous Mrs Maisel that a revolutionary woman making lemonade out of lemons and creating a successful career for herself. I did not this series as a live story between Midge and Lenny. And the last 5 minutes of Midge walking around at a slow pace by herself in big wide shots is showing she’s insanely happy. Got it.
@pamelafulks582
@pamelafulks582 Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeONeil still do not
@verabadamo4695
@verabadamo4695 Жыл бұрын
What don't you get about Lenny? He was there for her from the beginning, and, except for Susie, the first one to encourage her talent. She recognized in him the way she wanted to be, mixing comedy with truth, despite the legal and social barricades at the time. At the end, she saw how drugs had corrupted his talent, and tried, but couldn't help him. It was bittersweet, because it showed Midge's good heart but also her intelligence when she realizes that he's beyond her help. BTW, I cried buckets at the end😢
@nicoledarling9646
@nicoledarling9646 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I think too, I'm actually surprised he couldn't see the obvious. Thanks for putting it into words for me.
@libena1973
@libena1973 Жыл бұрын
1000% agree. He SAW her the way Susie did.
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Жыл бұрын
i see him more as liminal character, he guided her to her own potential
@marjoriegarland2798
@marjoriegarland2798 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting my feelings into words! I agree with EVERYTHING you so beautifully said.
@theresanm1799
@theresanm1799 Жыл бұрын
Plus, he was a significant, famous, and ground-breaking comedian!
@flamethrow868
@flamethrow868 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think that the end was 'anti-feminist', not that Midge was necessarily 'alone'. She lives alone, yes, and that's kind of normal? I mean, she's 72 in the finale scene, and Joel would have been 75. She has had multiple marriages, althought in my head canon she got back with Joel and he's missing from the last scene because he passed away. We've seen enough from the previous flashforwards to know that she still has her friends, kids, grand children etc so the last thing is more to show that she got back her relationship with Susan, since the last time we left them 'in the future' they were stranged.
@alexc9985
@alexc9985 Жыл бұрын
I think it was brilliant closure for Midge and Susie. The real love story of the show was between them, not between Midge and a man. I think it’s heavily implied that she was always loyal to Joel in old age but that he had passed away and that’s why he wasn’t there
@Historian212
@Historian212 Жыл бұрын
I think they said in one of the flash-forward sequences that Joel went to prison as a consequence of his deal with the mob, which freed Midge from them. Pretty sure they mentioned that he passed away, it wasn’t clear whether he passed away in prison or after.
@teddy9402
@teddy9402 Жыл бұрын
Joel & her definitely never got together again, they loved each other too much
@flamethrow868
@flamethrow868 Жыл бұрын
@@Historian212 Yes, but the last time we saw him in prison was in the 90s or 80s and he only had a year or two of jail left and seemed in good health. So presumably he got out
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Жыл бұрын
also she had lots of portraits of her family at home so why give it that much thought, she clearly remembers those memories fondly, there's nothing antifeminist about that. also remember her wedding day was one of the first stand ups she ever gave, so it's more a reflection of her path.
@allisonarthurs2469
@allisonarthurs2469 Жыл бұрын
The “All Alone” scene with Lenny on the Steve Allen show foreshadowed her big empty penthouse. “I’ll be living in my Nardville mansion, all alone”
@markkupetz
@markkupetz Жыл бұрын
Yes! A big theme of the series, I think. Remember also what she realizes when she decides to go on tour with Shy Baldwin. She knows she's choosing her career over her family. She goes to spend that night with Joel
@SoxMom18
@SoxMom18 Жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly.
@TheMudman2010
@TheMudman2010 Жыл бұрын
But you have also had the warning of Sophie Lennon early on. She has rather sold her soul while Midge stays true to herself.
@MeganneStepka
@MeganneStepka Жыл бұрын
I smile-cried through the entire last episode, especially the final scene of Midge and Suzie on the phone. It was perfect. They both lived incredibly full lives. Now they were slowing down and the highlight of their days in their golden years is to talk and laugh and sync up ( their show) to continue to have experiences together - im crying just writing this. it was one of the best endings to any show ever, imo
@radientproductions9799
@radientproductions9799 10 ай бұрын
same , it was brilliant!
@KCNwokoye
@KCNwokoye Жыл бұрын
It was an excellent performance from the cast and team behind the show. I loved it. It made cry from joy. What an excellent show from beginning to the end. Far better than any show I've seen in a while. Thank you to everyone who made it happen.
@angelahenson5831
@angelahenson5831 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. This show is excellent inside and out, from beginning to end. A real treasure.
@KCNwokoye
@KCNwokoye Жыл бұрын
Remember her husband is in jail for tax fraud. The point of the final scene and finale is that the two women (Miriam and Suze) stayed friends till the end. They stayed connected. That warmed my heart. The reality is that the longest and most valuable relationship we have is with our best friends not our spouses. Miriam never chose a romantic relationship over her dream to be a bombastically successful comedian. In real life we all make sacrifices for the things we truly want and I thought the scene was authentic. To achieve that level of success at the time and era she did, she had to give everything and she did. It was a price worth paying in my opinion. Anything else would have been way out of character for her. She didn't seem sad but fulfilled and at peace. It was perfect. It wasn't about a man or her kids, it was about Miriam and Suze. It shows that Miriam and Suze reached their goals. They both made big sacrifices. That's real life buddy. Her goal was never about being in love. If you paid attention to her character arc it would become even more clear. She never chose any man over her career which was the point of the final scene. She never chose a man, her parents or her kids. She went full in to realise her highest potential. She chose herself and the person who always believed in her - Suze. Lenny was significant because he was the one who always believed in her as a fellow comedian and pushed her to be the best comedian she could be. She loved him as a dear friend nothing more. We all have that lover who we care about even when we are no longer in love with them. Lenny was that for her. He was consistent. That's highly valuable for anyone especially a woman in comedy during those times. That's my take. What do you think?
@gingerjak7928
@gingerjak7928 Жыл бұрын
Thoughtful analysis. 👍
@flamethrow868
@flamethrow868 Жыл бұрын
I believe in 2005 Joel was no longer in prison, but from the look she gave his photos, and their placement, I believe he has passed away. Other than that, excellent take!
@osllq9355
@osllq9355 Жыл бұрын
I think Amy wanted to avoid being accused of queer-baiting, but (as a bi individual myself) I think Midge is bi and her biggest factor in a relationship is what Joel originally promised her- to make her laugh every day. When she is calling off one of her weddings, she tells Suzie that she likes him, but he doesn't make her laugh. In that final scene, we get Suzie and Midge making each other laugh hard as ever, I presume every chance they get. 🥰 I wish it was cannon because bi erasure is slightly painful, but with a "choose your own ending" concept, that's what I'm believing in lol
@stevenmoralesjr5785
@stevenmoralesjr5785 Жыл бұрын
KC you make a lot of great point and you’re right, it wasn’t about Midge and her husband It was about Midge and Suze It was about both strong women achieving their dreams just like us men achieving their dreams so what you wrote right there, it’s perfect I watch the show I watch all seasons. And to me, and I don’t care what people say it’s one of the best television shows I’ve ever seen in my life, the shots were beautiful, the dialogue was energetics, the designs are beautiful I don’t consider it as a show I consider as a cinematic television show!
@LXSeaV
@LXSeaV Жыл бұрын
@@stevenmoralesjr5785 Pilot: "I don't mind being alone ... I just do not want to be insignificant."
@sectionalsofa
@sectionalsofa Жыл бұрын
I could tell that "Midge Maisel'" laughing while sitting on the couch at the Glen Ford's show was not just Midge, but Rachel laughing with joy. And it made me laugh with Joy too.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted Жыл бұрын
Yeah! When I saw the couch scene with Gordon Ford, it was clear that Rachel was not "being Midge" in the silent moment. It was subtle, but she was not moving or gesturing like Midge, you know? It was Rachel sitting there.
@cherylvath4243
@cherylvath4243 8 ай бұрын
Yes! She was in/out of character…..so incredibly bittersweet
@user-xu3mv4bf9v
@user-xu3mv4bf9v Жыл бұрын
At the end of the 2nd season she tells Joel she is making a decision that will lead to her being alone but she wanted to be with someone who loved her that night and they slept together . The scene in her home at the end demonstrated that she was correct. Also she spent the last minutes of the show with someone who loves her…Susie.
@AA-mz3ig
@AA-mz3ig Жыл бұрын
I thought the ending was absolutely perfect. She wasn't alone. She watches TV with her best friend. They had achieved everything that they wanted. I think you looked at her going through her house and eating alone as a bad thing while I look at it as empowering. You don't need a romantic entanglement to be happy. You just need to be fulfilled and your friends. She was secure in her knowledge that Joel, Lenny Bruce and Gordon (?) loved her for who she was. But they weren't necessary for her self worth. This whole series was basically the relationship between two best friends who remained friends
@GraemeONeil
@GraemeONeil Жыл бұрын
I agree that you don’t need a romantic love to be happy but the show absolutely depicted a sense that you do in the end
@TheAngelmuse
@TheAngelmuse Жыл бұрын
@A A - I agree with you. However, Graeme take is his opinion and that is what he got out of the finally. But then again, He doesnt get the importance and significance of Lenny Bruce either. LENNY BRUCE!! The pinnicle of Stand up of that time! He was legendary and added that finally passing of the torch in that final scene.
@nicoledarling9646
@nicoledarling9646 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelmuse I'm actually shocked that he didn't understand the significance of Lenny!
@kdcreative9541
@kdcreative9541 Жыл бұрын
11:38 When you are at the end of life is that how you want your life story to end? All she had in the end was her fame, riches, successful career and long distance friend to watch taped jeopardy with. Is that all you would want out of life? It didn't seem like she had a relationship with her kids and grandkids. That is a fail to me. I am surprised people are putting more value on fame and fortune and a frienship over Midge's children.
@TheAngelmuse
@TheAngelmuse Жыл бұрын
@@kdcreative9541 Well this isn't about us. This is about Midge Maisel. And that is the price she paid for getting everything she wanted. She loved her kids but ultimately didn't value them like she did success. She sacrificed it all to get exactly what she wanted. In that Gordon Ford Show's final comedy monologue, she told us exactly what she wanted and told us herself that her kids would end up hating her because she was in a sense very selfish for it. She called them sociopaths, which in a way is what kinda she was. She knew it would cost her love, marriage, kids, and family. But she was willing to pay that price, and ultimately did, just as she foresaw it. So in the end, she was lonely, that's why she buried herself further in work and NOT taking any days off. But she was ok with it. Because Suzy was right there with her too. And that's all that mattered to her in the end. Her success and her one true friend made her laugh. Maybe that's not for you. Ok. But for Midge Maisel, apparently, it was.
@randyshoquist7726
@randyshoquist7726 Жыл бұрын
Lenny was important to the show because he was important to Midge. He was the seasoned pro who mentored her, and pushed her into moves she needed to make at crucial times. Also, being a real historical figure he brought an element of realism and historical context to the show. I found it sad that he had no happy ending in the show, but he had no happy ending in life. Another dose of reality. I enjoyed seeing how Midge and Susie's lived played out, with great success after such a big gamble on the Gordon Ford Show. And at the very end I was laughing out loud at Susie's skunk jokes along with them.
@lonellfletcher
@lonellfletcher Жыл бұрын
We need a Rose spinoff- prequel or sequel I will take it!!!!!
@user-es9mb8wi3m
@user-es9mb8wi3m Жыл бұрын
Rose and Abe with pop in guest appearances from the others.
@marywarren5183
@marywarren5183 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would LOVE to see rose abe and Zelda in their own show along with the maisels!
@Xitl4ly
@Xitl4ly Жыл бұрын
@@marywarren5183i want to see everyone’s backstory !!
@DeeplyTrivial
@DeeplyTrivial Жыл бұрын
@@marywarren5183 YES! I need more Zelda!
@apphilosophy79
@apphilosophy79 Жыл бұрын
I really LOVED that ultimately Midge turns out to be a modern "Faust". So amazing. In the end, Joel sacrificed himself for her, didn't he?
@Suzyb7806
@Suzyb7806 Жыл бұрын
At the end of season 1, I believe, she turned down Benjamin’s proposal because she knew she would have to be alone to achieve the level of success she wanted.
@halloweenallyearround4889
@halloweenallyearround4889 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually really pleased that the actual ending was Midge and Susie laughing while watching Jeopardy a continent away from each other. It was always about them together as best friends. And the fact that Midge a comedian had a plethora of people working for her that wouldn't laugh at her witty one liners (regarding using a mobile and so on), but that it was Susie who actually made her laugh until her belly hurt. And I don't see it as antifeminist that they showed her in a massive mansion eating alone, only surrounded by servants. That's the life she chose. That's what she fought for and risked everything for. And of course she was at her happiest before Joel left. They had a simple yet very comfortable life. They were living the dream. It was like a fairy tale. And they truly loved each other. They never stopped loving each other. But that ship had sailed.
@lonellfletcher
@lonellfletcher Жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% on the meaning of Midge being alone, but I don't think it was just about being without a man or not having romantic love.
@lynndenault4212
@lynndenault4212 Жыл бұрын
I disagree that it was anti-feminist. It was always between Midge and Susie like in Gilmore Girls (Rory and Lorelei). It made sense. She put career ahead of all.
@millymillymilly
@millymillymilly Жыл бұрын
What do you meeeeean you don’t get the “whole Lenny thing” he is everythinnnnng!
@emgee44
@emgee44 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!! Clearly needs to go back and watch the whole series, the scene of the last episode of season 4 especially. Imho
@classicboandhope
@classicboandhope Жыл бұрын
Thank you and good night would have been a lovely last note had the show only been about Midge making it big but it was her journey with Susie that was the real “love” story. Two women trying to make it in a male dominated business and world at a time when they still thought women should be barefoot and pregnant. So in the end, she had her big success, Susie had big success, they broke down some barriers, they were wealthy and had adventures and fun BUT everything in life has another side to the choices we make and she did sacrifice relationships along the way to have this big life and this is the fallout. No life is perfect so she got the two relationships she wanted most..the one on stage and the one with her soul sister. And as far as Lenny, they were kindred..foreshadowing the fact that she would live the life he would never have the opportunity to.. A bittersweet ending to a fabulous show. I love Amy Sherman Palladino for her commitment to Excellence! I have watched all of her shows and I will continue to follow her to every colorful world she creates!
@pamelafulks582
@pamelafulks582 Жыл бұрын
Excellent insight and understanding.
@classicboandhope
@classicboandhope Жыл бұрын
@@pamelafulks582 Thank you:)
@hermit6501
@hermit6501 Жыл бұрын
you don't get the significance of Lenny Bruce? He was the progenitor of all the great comics -- Pryor, Sahl, Carlin who came afterwards. Without him, there could be no Mrs. Maisel.
@oaktowndimond668
@oaktowndimond668 10 ай бұрын
Truly sad story. If he didn't overdose... Lenny would have ruled the 1970s and beyond!
@svemory
@svemory Жыл бұрын
In last episode, when Midge had that moment adjusting the wedding photo with her and Joel - and their relationship in the last season - intimates that they got back together, but that he (may have) died. They were together in temple, she came to prison - she proclaimed her love for him - the writers left it open but consensus is that possibility was strongly hinted at.
@LXSeaV
@LXSeaV Жыл бұрын
I loved the 3-tiered ending, and the last final one was a realistic one. No matter whether you're professionally ambitious or not, women statistically outlive most men. So, statistically, that scene is where most women are headed IF THEY'RE LUCKY. If you have someone like lifelong friend to laugh with at that age knowing you did with your life what you wanted, that's a victory. When I hear people not like that ending I'm like ... I don't think you've gotten that real about what the end of life will probably look like. My grandma died a few months ago with one daughter taking care of her. One kid didn't even visit knowing she was terminal. My dad and I visited while she was sick once. So even if you live this check-box normal life where you get married and have kids, it doesn't mean you're gonna be constantly physically surrounded by people who care about you. What I love about this show from the start is it reveals just how insane it is that anyone expects women to make their lives revolve around a man and/or marriage. Chances are not high those will last until the end. Staying true to yourself and your best friends is way more doable and promising.
@kdcreative9541
@kdcreative9541 Жыл бұрын
I can see the ending being realistic to Midge's fate coming from a perspective of someone who also lives alone sometimes you feel lonely and isolated. It was good that she was able to phone and share laughs with her lifelong friend Susie but its not the same as connecting in person. Relationships and memories you create are invaluable. She chased this career and acheived success and fame but it was sad to see that she didn't seem to have a relationship with her kids and grandkids at the end- it was like she pushed them to the side. She even seemed neglectful and like they weren't a priority to her back in the 60's. It would have been nice to see how her kids faired in 2005 or to see that she tried to salvage her relationship with them in 2005. So the fact that people are praising the ending and only concerned about her relationship with Susie and her getting a success career is interesting to me. But then again its just fiction!
@ericahorowitz5062
@ericahorowitz5062 Жыл бұрын
THIS! 👏🏼👏🏼❤
@DeeplyTrivial
@DeeplyTrivial Жыл бұрын
@@kdcreative9541 The true love story of the show is between Midge and Susie, because not all love is romantic love. I think the ending was perfect in portraying that. Yes, one can question what her relationship with her kids, grandkids, etc., were like at the end. But that wasn't the point. The point was that Susie, the only person who made her laugh that hard (as she said in the Testi-roastial episode) was there, making her laugh so hard she couldn't breathe. That final scene was beautiful
@jillcnc
@jillcnc Жыл бұрын
OK, first of all, the table in her huge apartment is set for a large number of people, which indicates that perhaps there's a [Jewish?] holiday coming up with many guests. It's a callback to the early series episode about getting the rabbi for the holiday. Second of all, it's ONE moment in Midge's life that we see. Even Joan Rivers wasn't surrounded by people 24 x 7. Maybe Midge has been traveling and she's just happy to be home, in blissful solitude, and just wants to watch Jeopardy and chill with her best friend. I don't know why people read it as "sad and lonely." It says more about the people who think that than it does about Midge. Most of the flash-forwards indicate a less-than-happy life, but then, we know that often fame and fortune isn't all it's cracked up to be. Most of us remember things from when we were young as the best time of our lives; before LIFE got on the way. My father-in-law fought at the Battle of the Bulge and STILL remembered WWII as the happiest time of his life. It's about youth, not so much what was happening in it, which we DO wear rose-colored glasses about as time passes. We forget the bad things and remember the good about what we experienced. In the "60 Minutes" segment early in the season, they TELL you who Midge's later husbands were. As for Lenny, he was like Midge's fairy godmother -- showing up randomly at various times, encouraging her when no one else but Susie was. From what I understand, Lenny was NOT supposed to be a big part of the series, but he nailed the man so completely, and yes, Luke Kirby is EXTREMELY nice to look at, that he was written to be a bigger character. His downfall was deftly handled in the finale. I loved this series. I was late to it, but I'm so glad I watched. Like so many others, I wish it could have gone on, though less for Midge (who was pretty self-centered, let's face it) than for Susie. Maybe Midge's story is complete, but Susie's isn't. Spinoff, anyone?
@GraemeONeil
@GraemeONeil Жыл бұрын
You think they had Mudge walking through a big empty house, looking at an old photo at Joel, eating dinner in the kitchen by herself while the servants cleaned to show she’s surrounded by lots of people and loved ones? Lol
@billieholiday9211
@billieholiday9211 Жыл бұрын
Yes! A spin-off for Suzie!
@tr1954
@tr1954 Жыл бұрын
You've made the best comment here.
@jillcnc
@jillcnc Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeONeil Did you even read my comment? It's a moment in time. The apartment could represent the success she achieved. I have a photo of my late husband in my living room. I look at it every time I pass it by. He is a sweet memory. Just like Joel is for Midge...any problems are long forgotten. It's a kindness that time does to us. I'm glad you live a simple life where nothing is complicated or even complex. Most people don't. Life is messy and complicated and weird, even for the rich and famous. Oh, and by the way, before I retired, when I got home from traveling for work, there is nothing I enjoyed more than the quiet of home, having a meal by myself, not having to make conversation all the time.
@kskisser
@kskisser Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why you feel qualified to do a review on a show you don't understand or are invested in. Lenny was a grounding force that guided Midge into being a great comic. He saw something in her that even she couldn't see in herself. It was a friendship and a mutual respect relationship. The ending was not divisive....it was brilliant.
@GraemeONeil
@GraemeONeil Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen every episode of this series and what did I not “understand”? We can have differing interpretations without you insulting or dismissing my opinion
@hermit6501
@hermit6501 Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeONeil You're certainly entitled to your opinion. The point being made is that an opinion not grounded in knowledge of the background of the show is one we all have to take with a grain of salt. The scene at the Hungry I with Bruce is reminiscent of "A Star is Born". Do you know why?
@kskisser
@kskisser Жыл бұрын
@@GraemeONeil So you have seen every episode but you kept saying how you weren't "vested" in the show? I'm not trying to insult you...your content is generally quite good. You just't dont "get" what you are talking about here...in this case it was Midge's very special relationship with Lenny by your own admission. I won't bother you further...I was just trying to make a point.
@oaktowndimond668
@oaktowndimond668 10 ай бұрын
​@@GraemeONeilbe honest. Did you know who lenny bruce was when you watched the show? Don't BS us. You totally thought he was a fictional character. Don't front.
@carynjones3926
@carynjones3926 Жыл бұрын
Dude, stop trying to make everything about boy/girl love. Having genuine, supportive friends who you have experienced real joys, sorrows, and squabbles with and still are in each other's lives 40 years later is way better than romance. The ending was absolute perfection as only Amy Sherman Palladino can deliver.
@MrSnappy67
@MrSnappy67 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's not about needing a man. But he's not wrong to observe she looks pretty alone in that big mansion, like being the only guest in a hotel. She delights in connecting with Susie (their bond is sacred) but she's clearly paid a price for her success ~ the one she was prepared to pay ever since watching Lenny sing the "alone" song. This includes less than intimate relationships with her children, too ~ made obvious in episode 1 of this last season. But I love the ending, too.
@seriouslyreally5413
@seriouslyreally5413 Жыл бұрын
The BIG significance of Lenny Bruce in the story line was NOT to be a romantic interest in Midge's life but to be that cattle prod, that mentor to push her forward! He believed in her when she did not. He had to shove her out there while giving her the brutal truths about the business, how though even a man has it tough saying it like it is, times are READY for change and she stands right at the crossroads of being that change! No more goofy slapstick, vaudeville cutsie comedy! The world was ready for gutsy stream of consciousness monologs about gender roles and women's rights and places in society! They were ready for foul- mouth sexual jokes and the realism that women were people with goals and opinions and weren't going to be that perfect vision of the well-heeled put together socialite. She was going to be a single mother with a job to do. Lenny believed in her. That was what his powerful under story was about. Yeah, they had that one night together, but that was two people that really respected each other's boundaries but also succumbing to the attraction and the loneliness. But without losing sight of the ball, that it really wasn't ever going to be about them.
@DeeplyTrivial
@DeeplyTrivial Жыл бұрын
Cattle prod is the *perfect* analogy for Lenny!
@cherrywillow3983
@cherrywillow3983 Жыл бұрын
succumbing is such a good word to use! people often argue the reason midge left benjamin and didnt go back to joel is because she was so deeply in love with lenny, and while i do think they loved each other it was never the driving force of their relationship. he was a mentor, her 2nd fan (after suzie) and what made their relationship significant is the amount of respect he hands to her every single time he talks to her ; thats not just him being attracted.
@parsaman06
@parsaman06 Жыл бұрын
Joel was the love of her life....
@Historian212
@Historian212 Жыл бұрын
Someone who “wasn’t really invested in the show” shouldn’t be commenting. Midge had more than two husbands. Lenny was pivotal to the entire show, he was both Midge’s mentor and her muse. They make it clear that Lenny isn’t husband material, so they used the character to make “magical” appearances when needed. Heck, he appeared in the first episode, and was part of Midge and Joel’s early romance. Nothing antifeminist about the ending. “Happy” doesn’t necessarily mean fulfilled. Midge was happiest the day before Joel left her, because she was deluded and out of touch with the truth about her own level of ambition. Once she realized what her real dream was, she went after it. As is said repeatedly in the series, that doesn’t often lead to happiness. “Happy” isn’t the point.
@gjaguaribe
@gjaguaribe Жыл бұрын
I don't think the show looks down at Midge at the end. That is a very simplistic way of viewing how she is at an older stage of her life. Just because her last scene is of her alone in the house talking to her bff, it doesn't mean that she is unhappy. The way you might look at it is a woman who has had many adventures in life and that has accomplished a lot. Also, let's not forget that the scene previous to this one is of her scheduling her next few appearances. She is clearly an active person. My takeaway from the finale is that Midge does feel accomplished in life. She is happy. She doesn't need to show it all the time. No one does.
@melvin8696
@melvin8696 3 ай бұрын
I think in the 2005 scene the big table represents that she often reunites with a big family probably her kids and grandkids and that they visited them often because of the room. Also I love that they portray that her first husband was the love of her life, probably they got back together and he died.
@elizabethsandoval7321
@elizabethsandoval7321 Жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks for posting. I really enjoyed seeing it, and I will come back to see it again! I don't think the comments reflect how much work went into this recap of my favorite show! ❤🎁
@KaSondraMoore
@KaSondraMoore Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they added those last minutes even though I found it a bit haunting. I didn't imagine her alone because she chose a career over a man. Relationships are important. Famous women are human beings too and life is complex. I think that's the message. She was a pioneer and it is STILL hard out there for women who want to be their best in a career and still have fulfilling relationships with men who don't feel at all threatened and are also not freeloading gamers (haha). Also, she was in her 70s at the end. Her parents were dead, her children had their own lives, and I imagined that she and Joel were together when he got out of prison and that he was probably dead at the end too. She and Susie were never really friends, but probably realized at some point how intense experiences, especially when we are young, binds us to people in ways it's hard to imagine until there is so much water under the bridge.
@carriefortner1675
@carriefortner1675 Жыл бұрын
Loved every moment of every episode of this awesome story.
@user-gj9bl9np5l
@user-gj9bl9np5l Жыл бұрын
The final shot shows that female friendship is the longest lasting bond. That men are not so much important. That she could have had 4 husbands but she had one best friend for life
@marywarren5183
@marywarren5183 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was perfect. My best friend for 40 years and I picture our old age exactly the same. The men who have come and gone are a part of it but in the end, it will always be just us. We've raised our kids, had careers and many men who've meant different things but it always comes back to just she and I. I thought the love story between midge and Susie was the center of this series and it ended exactly as we hoped! I don't expect a man to understand that relationship and that's okay 😂
@lillyess385
@lillyess385 Жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with being alone and content.
@manantial773
@manantial773 Жыл бұрын
It is NOT a divisive finale by any means, it has 9.6 out of 10 on IMDB.
@melissah8415
@melissah8415 11 ай бұрын
Next year, I will absolutely watch the entire series again!
@MomCat6000
@MomCat6000 Жыл бұрын
Oh the ending was wonderful with the non-stop laughter between Midge & Susie!! And most women by the time they are in their golden years are living alone whether they are rich & famous or living on a budget and ordinary. Nothing surprising about that. Just the way life is as women live longer than men.
@monicaharvatt633
@monicaharvatt633 Жыл бұрын
In the flash forward at the very end, I saw a parallel to the real life relationship between Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner. They were great friends who spent a lot of time together in their older years. Saw a few interviews before Carl died where they talked about getting together most evenings to have dinner and watch movies. It was a special time they shared together that honored their long friendship and collaborations. Midge and Susie are not in the same room or even on the same coast, but they continue to make time to continue their bond and maintain a significant relationship.
@stms4411
@stms4411 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t about her being without a husband. It’s about being alone with only Susie as the only person she could relate to. It’s not a man woman thing, it’s a person to person thing
@xtxpxhx
@xtxpxhx Жыл бұрын
midge is the biggest extrovert , there's no way that house is empty for that long, after all she's a magnificent host.
@sedd1868
@sedd1868 11 ай бұрын
Right? That dining table was fully set. She's having a dinner party that week.
@stonathanjokes2142
@stonathanjokes2142 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed a lot of meaning because you were admittedly not invested. Most of what you questioned or didn't understand has answers.
@josea.martinez2234
@josea.martinez2234 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled on to this show and just couldn’t stop watching it. And I’m so sad it’s over but the also happy I stumbled into this show and got to watch it. Loved every actor in this show
@wanabiyu8380
@wanabiyu8380 Жыл бұрын
What do u mean you don't get the lenny thing? If you haven't then you haven't get the show itself. He was more than important to midge and every time he appeared was to teach midge something or in general temrs, to make her feel like she could do it. Lenny wasn't supposed to be the major romantic interest btw and his character was supposed to appear just in the pilot but luke Kirby was so good, the palladinos had to brought him back. Although i love their chemistry, i always knew they couldn't end up together and it wasn't about that, it was about how he always was her fairy godmother, as rachel brosnahan said
@mayloomis9638
@mayloomis9638 9 ай бұрын
I don't think she did put her career ahead of love - she had so much love in her life - Joel, Suzie, Lenny, her family, her kids, her friends, and her career - she said not that she wanted a big career, but that she wanted a big life, and I think she got that. And Lenny was a big part of that - it was in the previous season, but he told her that if she wasn't really successful it would break his heart, so having him in those final moments where she clearly made it big was important for her character arc, from the beginning where he was there the very first day she went on stage, all the way to the end, when his own career and life was falling apart, but he still wanted everything for her. The future marriages and divorces didn't mean so much as they were a path to her remembering how much she loved Joel, and how much he loved and cared about her, and how they fit. I think she eventually got back together with him after he got out of jail - remember, we only see the very very later in life time, when Joel is clearly not in the picture anymore, but his picture takes center stage among the rest. I guess I just don't get why anyone would think this show was just about her being successful in her career, I mean, that minimizes it so much.
@BostonIce37
@BostonIce37 Жыл бұрын
So sad the show is ending. Sure wish we could have more seasons! 🥰🥰
@amandadean5368
@amandadean5368 Жыл бұрын
The end is a call back to Lenny Bruce's actual standup, and the one we see when Midge goes to "stand outside his playdate." He talks about how once becoming successful he will live alone in a penthouse. Just search for All Alone. The restaurant call back is also to help with the All Alone call back. Lenny Bruce is one of the biggest comedians of all time and, in this world, he was a part of Midge's success. And in the end she got what he talked about.
@jeni688
@jeni688 Жыл бұрын
She is single and financially secure and has a friendship that outlasted her marriages. That was not easily possible in the year of the pilot episode...not for a woman. Her kids are not around and apparently are not very close to their mom. I think that is the significance of the final scene. She chose comedy over love when she left Benjamin. That was a choice she made with her eyes wide open. She always loved Joel. I would love to know who the other 3 husbands were.....Gordon? It is clever that they left a lot out so if they decide to make a movie, they can. Perfect ending.
@melissah8415
@melissah8415 11 ай бұрын
I'm not aware of another TV show in which the last season was so unlike the previous seasons, with the time jumping back and forth. It was a unique method of showing what "had happened" to the characters in the future. It was well done, but I would have like to have seen Joel get out of prison and reunite with his family and friends. It was such a tremendous sacrifice that he made for Midge, it would have been nice to see him free. They showed close to the end of the downward spiral of Lenny Bruce and I understand why they left it at that last scene. However, just short wordless scene with Midge reading about his death in the paper, closing her eyes, and fade to black would have been very powerful.
@WallyDeLaFuente
@WallyDeLaFuente Жыл бұрын
And still... I feel I'm the only one talking about this but WHERE IS MOISHE??? why was he excluded from the end? I certainly hope Kevin Pollack couldn't be there and not that they just didn't want him there. What a lost opportunity to show him at least chuckle to prove Midge is funny.
@kdcreative9541
@kdcreative9541 Жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned that in another video about this show. I think he had a scheduling conflict and couldn't be there.
@LisaContestabile-vd5zg
@LisaContestabile-vd5zg Жыл бұрын
I loved the ending, especially when Midge took her big moment. She was alone in her apartment in the end, but that table was set for about 20 people and the workers in the kitchen were preparing for an event, so I think she was going to have a big dinner party later, but first, she had to watch Jeopardy with Susie. I just wish that Midge had repaired her friendship with Shy Baldwin. She really hurt him, not in a malicious way, but in a careless way, not realizing he was the "victim", not her. I hope Shy found a true love and was happy.
@DeeplyTrivial
@DeeplyTrivial Жыл бұрын
She did apologize to him, and when he suggested getting together when he returned from touring, she told him that she'd learned from his firing her that they were not friends. So at the very least, he knows she's sorry for her carelessness. But yeah, who knows if he was able to live as his true self? I think the show closed the book on the two of them, but (speaking as a queer woman who lived in the closet for decades) I hope he was able to come out of the closet and be happy
@meb1982
@meb1982 Жыл бұрын
I loved the ending! Midge ended up with the best relationship of her life Susie. Susie is Midge's husband in a platonic life partner sense.
@Xitl4ly
@Xitl4ly Жыл бұрын
didn’t they refer to themselves has husband and wife in one scene?
@stargazer1682
@stargazer1682 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of it being a sort of "choose your own adventure," where we can fill in some of the blanks. I think after Joel got out of jail, he became an important part of Midge's life again. I don't think they got remarried or anything afterwards, but she made sure he was taken care of. She made him her manager for a while, as an excuse to give him a steady income, until he decided to formally retire; and she bought him a small house her's - far enough away that he could feel she wasn't smothering him, but close enough that she expected him to come to dinner most nights when she was in town. She didn't cook anymore, but she taught her cook how to make her brisket. Joel was probably gone though, by the time of the flashforward, but she was there with him at the end, along with their kids and grandkids. She declined to give his eulogy, insisting instead it should be Ethan. The very next day she was back onstage; and her entire set was about her ex-husbands, working backwards and ending with Joel. She brought back all the old jokes, the ones everyone knew by heart, along with some new ones that came to her in the moment, but she ended with a heartfelt reflection of what he truly meant to her, the eulogy she had actually written but lost the nerve to say at the funeral; and concluded with how much she'll miss him.
@camillelong3968
@camillelong3968 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic way to wrap it up. I loved this show ( all but season 4….. not wild about that) just fantastic. Gonna miss it.
@stargazer1682
@stargazer1682 Жыл бұрын
I think that interpretation of that sequence in Midge's future home is a bit of a stretch. I think it's more a commentary of, you can make it big, and have all the money in the world, but what does it all mean if you don't have a _friend._ After everything was said and done, for everything Midge had earned for herself, all she wanted to was curl up on a couch in a small room and watch Jeopardy! and share her time with Suzie over the phone; and I think that's beautiful.
@shireenhakim
@shireenhakim Жыл бұрын
That was a really good idea to have that as the last scene shot. All the cast was there.
@ohroonoko
@ohroonoko 8 ай бұрын
Lenny Bruce was Maisel's compass-- her mentor. He had a significant role in Maisel's character arc.
@guayaca2111223
@guayaca2111223 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this show!!❤
@tatteredquilt
@tatteredquilt 6 ай бұрын
Amazing episode, and I will miss the series.
@rickyolivarez
@rickyolivarez Жыл бұрын
When youre a powerful and strong willed person, you are usually alone. Even if you have people that love you, you make them uncomfortable. And you are usually alone. But we all have that ONE person that gets us. The one that doesnt have to be romantic. Its pure platonic love. Its very powerful because theres no s e x involved.
@kassistwisted
@kassistwisted Жыл бұрын
When I saw the scene of Midge alone at the end, I was about to get angry. Why are we always shown that those who fight for their dreams and achieve them live alone and lonely, eating alone in her kitchen despite her elaborately decorated dining room table set for 30 people? Why are we fed this ridiculous idea that if we pursue our dreams, we'll lose our friends and family? It's nonsense. But the Sherman-Palladinos did not let us down. When Midge came to her TV room and sat down to watch Jeopardy with Suzie, I LOVED it. It was perfect. Sure, Midge lived alone in a huge Manhattan penthouse with a staff serving her like Sophie Lennon - the fruits of her immense and lasting success. But unlike Sophie, she had people in her life who loved her. Suzie in the main. Maybe she still has Joel and her brother and sister-in-law, Imogene, and others. But the end scene teased us that she gave up human connection to be famous, but she didn't. She had human connection. She had a best friend for life, no matter how far apart they lived. It was perfect.
@lucyeast8169
@lucyeast8169 Жыл бұрын
Imogene is still close by - she filmed Midge’s video message to Susie at the roast. I can imagine lots of friends enjoying Midge’s spacious home- formal dinners, cocktail hour in the lounge, Midge would love hosting!
@xstatixtribalelectronicmus2787
@xstatixtribalelectronicmus2787 Жыл бұрын
Instead of raining so hard and so why are you don’t understand it maybe you should look at the small details a little more than you get why it’s completely understandable.
@saranunes4151
@saranunes4151 Жыл бұрын
Suzy said in season one "I am going to be alone in life. I don't mind bring alone. I just do not wa t to be insignificant". When Midge leaves Benjamin she goes to Joel and says alsoshe will be alone. Those knew the life they wanted and to have it meant sacrifice, people would never really understand them but they were fine with it because what they loved there careera more. Also they ultimately always had each other.
@charbax
@charbax Жыл бұрын
If they do a spin-off it could be with the fast talking genius Esther Maisel, the daughter, I liked that short flash forward intro to one of the final season episodes, where she's introduced as some kind of genius, they could make her into some kind of NASA/SpaceX engineer/White House advisor of some type.. include whatever you can think of for the ultimate genius young woman even if kind of neurotic..
@gracegirl6399
@gracegirl6399 Жыл бұрын
Perfect. Loved it all.
@angelinimartini
@angelinimartini Жыл бұрын
I was happy with this ending… at peace with it. I am sad that it’s over though.
@DeeplyTrivial
@DeeplyTrivial Жыл бұрын
I was SOOO invested in this series. Loved it so much! Lenny is very much significant because 1) he was in the very first episode when Midge first got arrested for her very first stand-up, 2) remember that Midge is very much inspired by Joan Rivers who did the observational, stream-of-consciousness style comedy, 3) Lenny was one of the ground-breakers for observational, stream-of-consciousness style comedy, and 4) Joan had a close friendship with Lenny (that may or may not have been sexual at some point - alluded to by Joan but not confirmed) Edited to add: the love story in the show is between Midge and Susie, not Midge and some man. Because love does not need to be romantic. There are many kinds of love. I think the showing of Midge's empty house is not to show that she is romantically alone (though she is), but to contrast with the final moments of the most important love she has experienced: her friendship with Susie. It was hard-fought, at times one-sided, and had its ups and downs. But they ended up *together*
@Priya-ti4fe
@Priya-ti4fe Жыл бұрын
The last moment is just about showing female friendship. I find ASP's shows are always about female relationships. The story wasn't just about Midge making it but it was also about Susie and Mitch: how they grew together, how they are always going to be in each others lives despite the distance
@melissah8415
@melissah8415 11 ай бұрын
That phone scene was incredible!
@emillion4470
@emillion4470 10 ай бұрын
About Lenny and Midge - This important scene establishes Midge's future status as one of the greats . It's Lenny Bruce - THE stand up comic legend of his generation passing the torch to the next. Aside being in a convoluted and star-crossed romantic relationship, it's acknowledging Maisel as one who is his equal and peer.
@ap6160
@ap6160 Жыл бұрын
Maybe dont review a show you didnt really watch?
@annacollins2134
@annacollins2134 11 ай бұрын
I loved the series and all the pieces of the finale. I think if you watched every episode you understand and appreciate the ending . Will miss these characters.
@shmooshoohead
@shmooshoohead 10 ай бұрын
If Graeme doesn't "get" the significance of Lenny Bruce, Graeme doesn't "get" standup comedy, period. Does it really need to be explained that Midge befriending a real life groundbreaking standup icon, who blazed the trail for virtually everything in the art form that followed, is an important subtext? Come ON.
@EmmaInsua
@EmmaInsua Жыл бұрын
Graeme you didn't got the point of the happiest day of her life, is about how much easier it is for a women to just follow the rules and have her life writen for her. She choosed the hard way, the struggle, the making of the path, she remembers that time as the happier but in a naive way of being happy. It was easier when she belived that was all, the husband and the two children, but whe she saw the complexity of life, life is no just happy (sorry for the broken english)
@pennyscolorfullife
@pennyscolorfullife Жыл бұрын
The final episode redeemed the last season for me. I truly had wanted to see her rise to fame and the last season began by jumping us to an older Midge that was very famous. I felt cheated out of the journey. But the final episode was redeeming and very well done. And the importance of Lenny is that he was her mentor from her first night getting in a stage.
@JohnnyRoseofVersailles
@JohnnyRoseofVersailles 9 ай бұрын
Lenny was her mentor not just a love interest. He is the one who truly believed in her
@meganmontgomery9296
@meganmontgomery9296 Жыл бұрын
I was initially disappointed by the flagrant display of wealth. I came to the same conclusion you did: that it all meant nothing because now her life's empty and meaningless. But while the shots of her walking through her home felt melancholy, Midge's face read as content. It's viewer error that we mistake a woman alone as discontent. (She can't possibly be fulfilled unless her grandchildren are underfoot and everyone's fighting over the brisket.) She always loved having nice things and it showed that didn't change over the years. I agree with some of the other commenters who said her career was her true husband. Ultimately, it's a show about the creative process and friendship. The ending with Suzie was brilliant. (And those moments where Lenny parted the curtain enough to show her how he truly felt were my favorite moments in the whole show. I don't care if they have a tragic story, or if it wasn't even a true romance, the complexity of their relationship make them my favorite couple in TV.)
@teresadelacruz3466
@teresadelacruz3466 Ай бұрын
I LOVED this show. So good and I’m sad it’s over. Kind of feel like season 5 was a tad rushed..I wanted it to keep going! lol
@gingerheart1
@gingerheart1 Жыл бұрын
Re: your concerns about Feminism.. Please read Betty Friedan. Her end-game was never about powerful woman full stop. She understood that corporations would harness the women’s movement to their own interests (welcome to 70 cents on the dollar, ladies) ASP is slyly telling us (okay in my analysis) that our allies are the men and women who support us. Joel realized he was an old school ass of a husband. He realized he screwed up. He acted as an ally in the end. He was the love of her life.
@christinaward8377
@christinaward8377 Жыл бұрын
I don't see the ending scenes as anti feminist in any way. To me it looks at a woman in her 70's looking at her life...she's had a very successful career, and while the men in her life have come and gone... the love of a deep friendship between women will always remain. It was special to me because my dearest friend and I sit and watch our favorite shows just like Miriam & Suzy did...even counting out when we are hitting the play button! ❤
@bettinazwerdling9158
@bettinazwerdling9158 Жыл бұрын
If you don't get the whole Lenny thing, you don't get this series! Sorry.
@papermoontarot4219
@papermoontarot4219 Жыл бұрын
I just watched a documentary of female comedians (Joan Rivers produced it) and they all said you live for the laughs but you have to give up a personal life for it. Midge states in the last season that she needs the laughs and applause, and that's what she still has in her 70's--she still has her career and Susie, her friend. Do you have to give up something in your life--of course, but missing something you don't have doesn't make you an anti-feminist. It makes you human, a human who has made choices. And Lenny was a colleague who respected her work which was huge--I can't think of another comic in the series who gave her respect. And the fact that he ended the way he did (and that we all knew about it from the get go) added a great dramatic pathos to the show.
@mariegoocher4338
@mariegoocher4338 Жыл бұрын
I loved, loved, loved this series. Interesting that you don't "get" the Lenny Bruce and Midge connection...I SO get it and was VERY glad he had a scene in the finale. His pep talk to Midge in the Carnegie Hall episode was epic! The last episode was almost perfect....I guess Joel was still in jail.
@IamCurrentlyAscending
@IamCurrentlyAscending Жыл бұрын
I mean, what's more real than two old biddies watching Jeopardy and laughing together? That's as good of an ending I'd wish for anyone, I suppose.
@fredericknielsen4984
@fredericknielsen4984 11 ай бұрын
1.) Lenny is one of the most influential for Midge, he inspired her, believed in her, and supported her from the beginning. He was a mentor figure for her and her moral support. Susie, Lenny, and Joel were always there for her. He's such a role for her that in the future, Midge didn't want to see him again in such a bad shape because they had a perfect goodbye, and she didn't wanna ruin the great lenny image for her. Sorta selfish in a way, since lenny probably really needed midge, but there's an angle that makes me kinda understand her side even though i don't agree, same goes for the shy fiasco where she almost outted him, but the series tried to make us sympathetic for her so much. 2.) Midge being alone is not weird, it's a perfect callback to when she saw shy baldwin smoking at the end (the last time midge saw shy), where in a way she realized that many times, when you're trying to reach to the top, you can reach it, and be alone at the top. That's why we got scenes of midge being and seemingly alone. But that's where the series shows us that Susie is still there for Midge, they're still there for each other, and so that scene is a way for callbacks and proving their friendship and how you can not be alone in the top. Since this show is indirectly (Or directly actually) about their friendship during stardom, I think the series did convey this perfectlyy!
@bdonnici
@bdonnici Жыл бұрын
Lenny believed in her, respected her, & pushed her to stay true to herself. He also was one of the only people who knew firsthand the sacrifices she would have to make.
@rscats67
@rscats67 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is/was "very invested in the series", I think Lenny's purpose was very evident. He was a successful comedian whom Midge looked up to, whose fame she aspired to in the beginning (as time went on, she wanted even more), and she respected his opinion. His belief in her pushed her to continue even when she was down. The sexual tension between them was merely happenstance; the night they finally got together needed to happen, and when Midge saw those drugs in his room, you knew Midge wasn't going to ever go further into a romantic relationship with him because in the end he would only hold her back. They would remain forever friends but nothing more. Joel would remain her true love no matter how many husbands she went through but they could never make it work as spouses. She and Joel would forever love each other and would remain loyal and supportive to each other but just couldn't be married anymore.
@rscats67
@rscats67 Жыл бұрын
In the end, in real life, Lenny Bruce died of a Morphine overdose in 1966, one year after the fictional Susie sees one of his final terrible shows. Sadly, he was 40.
@mnstorm9927
@mnstorm9927 Жыл бұрын
Lenny Bruce was a mentor to Midge. Other than Suzie, he was the only person that always believed in what she could do.
@sara35ish
@sara35ish 10 ай бұрын
I Agree with you. The last scenes with midge were so depressing. She got to be a star but in the end was alone watching tv chatting with Suzy. I was like WTF? The should have ended with her moment on the Gordon Ford Show. That would have been perfect
@Ofthegirl09
@Ofthegirl09 11 ай бұрын
I would say start at the beginning and watch the entire series in order to understand it. Lenny was her mentor, probably the first comic she ever saw, with Joel, and her support all the way through. Watch the scene with Midge and Lenny on the Carnegie Hall stage, that was one of the most pivotal scenes in the entire series! Really, there was nobody else she could relate to as a comic. Also, I didn't interpret the last scene the same way. As a woman, your entire life is compromised. She did have to give up a lot of close relationships due to her rising fame. An entire show was dedicated to explaining that. She recognized that was the way it was going to be and made a conscious decision to choose fame.
@johndoe-yw7eb
@johndoe-yw7eb 4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I hated the Season 5 flash forwards and I'm glad to see I'm not alone. The series should have ended on Gordon's couch, period. There's no point in having us root for Midge to finally get her break against all odds, then have her succeed to a level we couldn't have even imagined, and then close with, "But it turns out, none of it made her happy".
@5cloudwalker
@5cloudwalker Жыл бұрын
If you watch the pilot episode credits it ends with the song Girl Talk as does the finale but sung by different people…. so the whole series can be as Midge said female empowerment and Girl Talk .
@TheZekedurham
@TheZekedurham Жыл бұрын
I agree that the episode should've ended on the talk so, either at "thank you and goodnight" or just before he fires her. The rest seemed like an unnecessary add on. That said, she said in her stand up that she wanted a big life. She wanted to be SO famous. The trip through her house and the scheduling performances and the entourage of people in her house show she had a big life. As big as it is, she goes to a small room to curl up on a couch and call her friend to watch tv together. I just think post talk show appearance, it wasn't necessary. I always liked the Lenny Bruce angle. He represents a struggle for a woman her age in that time period.
@jonberger
@jonberger 11 ай бұрын
I thought the ending was perfect. Miriam wanted to be a famous stand-up comic, and she achieved it. She decided early on that that's what was important to her, and then she went out and got it. That involved sacrificing some stuff, but what she didn't do was sacrifice THAT in order to achieve what everybody kept telling her she was supposed to want. If it had ended with a flash-forward to Miriam relaxing in the bosom of her loving family, that would have been an anti-climax.
@LazlosPlane
@LazlosPlane 4 ай бұрын
It always surprises me at the fuss that is made over the “four minutes.” Vs. six-minutes of the show’s end. These talk shows are filmed in advance (for obvious reasons) and the Director can, at his discretion chose to lengthen or shorten any “bit” or guest spot, which is why so many guests often get “bumped.” Clearly, this is a case where the performer, Midge, was going to great he made the decision to lengthen her spot. No big deal. He knew he could cut other stuff in the editing room later. Relax everyone.
@ardenaudreyarji
@ardenaudreyarji 10 ай бұрын
My thoughts also, I wanted the whole thing to end on Gordon Ford introducing The Marvelous Mrs Maisel.
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