What if Starrk had survived? He's certainly one of the most popular deceased members of Bleach's cast, and I think people would've been happy to see him return. What do you think? Would you have liked to see Starrk come back? Maybe he's chilling in Hell...

If Stark had survived, I would have wanted to see him share a drink with Shunsui. Whenever (If) the Hell Arc starts up again, this is the number one thing I would want to see.

Seeing a gunfight between Starrk and Lille Barro would be amazing to see. It would also be a nice callback to Kubo’s original idea for Bleach.

Even though it's quite sad and not exactly what the manga intended, I think Lillinette dying before Starrk offers a reasonable explanation as to why the #1 espada lost so easily - in that he'd given up after that point. I think someone with Starrk's personality, no matter how strong he is physically, wouldn't be able to mentally withstand something as tragic as losing his dearest life partner, so simply giving up the fight out of depression - consciously or subconsciously - makes sense. I prefer the anime fight for that reason.

9:45 Although Staark says that getting revenge isn't his style, he does say "Only this once, I'll make an exception." So that implies that if he did beat Kyoroku, he would totally go fight Soi.

Stark really deserved to live he was arguably the only male espada who wasnt a overconfident sadistic sociopath. If he had lived he would have no problem letting Hallibel rule and would just be happy that he isnt alone anymore.

I dont think Starrk being the character to resemble Aizen the most is a coincidence. For me, Starrk's struggle with loneliness and power kinda foreshadowed Ichigo's revelation at the end of Deicide that Aizen may have also been just looking for someone as strong as he was

Hell yes! Also Starkks wolves patrolling Las Noches is such a dope idea

If Stark had survived and developed his powers he'd be immensely powerful and a great help in the TYBW.

I was surprised that Starrk died in the story, he wasn't exactly a "bad guy" so it seemed odd that he fully died off as many of the others who turned out to also not be quite so "bad" were allowed to survive in the end. He was certainly an interesting character.

If Starrk was going to die at some point I think after Kyoraku is taken out of the fight it would make a ton of sense that he would sacrifice himself fighting alongside and protecting Nanao so she can get that hit off. It would also help it feel a bit more organic considering she has ZERO combat sense. We missed out on a very satisfying end to this character

Honestly if Starrk would've been the Ruler of heuco mundo with Shunsui being the Captain commander it would've been perfect especially if they would've teamed up against lille barro it would be so dope watching them fight together. Also can you please make a video ranking every Captain in Gotei 13 from weakest to strongest including every captain that we know about (like Ishhin , Urahara, Yoruichi , Aizen etc)

Kubo has all the right ingredients to deliver on one of his best designs if Hell Starrk ever becomes a thing in the new arc.

I really hope we get to see Starrk in the hell saga. Have him make a full face turn. Also, if we're going by the anime, I do think Starrk would be able to use Ressureccion without Lilynette, since she apparently dies before the fight even ends. I imagine he'd just be stuck in his ressureccion at all times and unable to turn it off as his power no longer has a separate body to dispel into

Imagine that Grimjow scene where he ends it just turning around and says something like “Come on Number 1/Primera.” That would be good.

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’d love to see Starrk team up with Shunsui against Lille Barro

The Arrancar epilogue of CFYOW made me thought of Starrk, and it almost moved me to tears. Under Harribel’s reign with the help of Nelliel, the Arrancar society is moving towards both the soul society and the real world society, becoming a more peaceful and habitable place. Starrk would have got true comrades if he survived. Harribel truly cares about him, and Nelliel is a friendly and caring individual who would definitely be his friend. Even if Grimmjow doesn’t care about him, he would still be truly happy.

A serious Stark would be a scary beast indeed.

Just imagine: Starrk came back in the Hell Arc as a guide to the heroes in Hell, because he wasn't a true bad guy, but also wasn't a good one. Like Virgil in the Divine Comedy Hell.

He's my favorite espada.Hope to see him again in the hell arc alongside Yamamoto.imagine if he could make infinite copies of his soul as he can't die in hell? that'd be amazing

I think if Starrk survived the other hollows might push him to become the King of Hueco Mundo, he isn't happy about this but understands he has to similar to Shunsui becoming the new captain commander. I could see Starrk sacrificing himself to save Harribel, Grimmjow and other hollows he feels are friends of his. Or he would be including in the Shunsui vs Lille Barrow fight and now the once enemies are now allies against a far greater threat. Imagine a godlike being (Lille Barrow) has to fight against the new captain commander and new King of Hueco Mundo in Shunsui and Starrk

I think it would be cool to see Stark's interaction with Ichigo. I also think it would be cool if Stark fought against the Quincy girls since Stark's whole thing is that he is lonely and the Quincy girls are a group of people who call each other friends but would still back stab each other like what happened with Bambietta.

Starrk and shunsui would’ve been great buds

Maybe if Starrk lived but Lilynette died, when the Quincy attack Las Noches Starrk could think back to Lilynette’s speech and unleash his Resurreccion which wouldn’t have been available before

Despite you saying this is "overglorified fanfiction", I love this train of thought. I would think an interaction of some kind between Starkk and Aizen would be great. Starkk could be obviously angry, but look calm when faced with Aizen. He could mention the betrayal and Aizen could try to get Starkk to attack him and potentially release him from the chair earlier. But Starkk just moves on and discredits Aizen for what he did, but thanks him for giving him what he had always wanted. Then I could see him making his way to Warwelt by himself and aiding Kyoraku like you said. That's kinda my fanfiction of what I would like to see, but stretching out the TYBW with focus on Starkk would take away from the point of TYBW: Moving forward. I don't think a moment with Aizen wouldn't indicate that, but I think Starkk wouldn't need to confront Aizen due to him just being happy with his new friends. I know I've contradicted myself, but I do realistically see why it wouldn't be as important as the Shinigami all giving Kyoraku crap for releasing Aizen.

BRUVA!!! I just wanna see what Starrk and Lilinette's original form. Wouldn't it have been cool if after their defeat they could've found a way to return to that point before they separated. Kinda like how yachiru rejoined Nozarashi but the arrancar version. After thinking about it what would the form even be. My headcannon was that it was an adult version of lilinette with starrks hair eyes and personality with lilinettes matured hollow instincts. The hollow hole could be where lilinette's was (stomach) and they could use the eyepatch mask from los lobos. It would also ne cool if they fought with Cero Shotguns or Cero Machine guns. The wolves could still be there too. Maybe Kubo has some Hell arc plans for Starrk and Lilinette. If kubo does show their original form I for whatever reason want to see them fight Kenpachi 😤

It would be so cool to see Starrk and Kyoraku with their eye patches against Lillie and his lack of eyepach

I honestly expected a whole heap more from Starrk. I really don't know why Kubo offed him since he was a literally an Arrancar Shunsui. And we all know how popular the current captain commander is

personally, im not actually sure if Kubo even planned to have the 'peaceful' Hueco Mundo originally, that it's a cool, interesting idea he came up with post-arrancar arc. i also feel that Stark is a PERFECT character to have in that new Hueco Mundo because as aloof and almost nihilistic as he was, he did actually want peace. i think he really could have had some interesting dynamics with that, like how he would interact with Harribel/grimmjow in this new world and even possibly, like you said, how he'd act around the shinigami now they are somewhat more peaceful towards eachother. him learning to effectively loosen up and learn to actually care about the world around him would have juxtaposed amazingly with the Quincies plan to destroy it. there's a wealth of character potential there!

I could just picture Orihime calling him Mr. Starkk and then proceeds to give him a motivational speech. It would've at least gave her a tad bit of a prominent role other than the final battle in Wahrwelt with Yhwach. Plus, that Lille Barro vs Kyoraku/Starkk battle is the icing on the cake for this "What If". I kinda wanna see a version of this now, damn it.

Love these discussions videos. Lot of people on reddit or YT are only talking about powerscale and what if fight. I really like the fact that you always talk about the relationship, the motivation, plot context and all these stuff without only focussing on the fight !

I think a Stark and Lilynette redemption arc would have been great to have. Having a team of redeemed Espada actually fighting with the rest in a combined effort to save the world from being unified once again is satisfyingly ironic IMO. What I'll almost hate to see is Stark ending up in Hell, because I don't really think he deserves to be there. But, since Captains end up in Hell due to their power alone, he & Lilynette almost have to be there. So, maybe we'll get to see the team up in hell which would be great to see.

I had been wondering if the characters of Kindred in League of Legends were at all influenced by Stark. The former also being an entity that split himself in two distinct forms to avoid being lonely.

I always thought a cool way for starrk to survive is that lilynette fuses back into him and sealing her power within him to keep him alive, I think it could add alot to the story. Some nice character development for lilynette that always acts like a child makes a very mature decision to sacrifice herself for starrk. We see how starrk handles losing lilynette and acts as a plot device for starrk losing his resurrección. We can have a cool moment towards the end of the story when starrk breaks the seal keeping him alive allowing him to reunite with lilynette and use a new resurrección one last time before succumbing to his injuries and dying together with lilynette

I’d have loved that. I love Starrk, and I feel like that would have been a more moving arc for him as a character. His normal death was ok, but not anywhere near what I think it could have been.

He’s legit one of my favorite characters in the whole series who definitely should’ve came back undoubtedly

Wow, you did it again! This video is fantastic! Shunsui and Stark (and Halibel) are my favorite characters and the thought of them fighting TOGETHER would be the coolest thing imaginable for the series. Dude, I didn't know I wanted something to be real so badly in my life. lol Wish Kubo had you around to bounce ideas off of for the last arch.

If Hiyori can survive being fully cut in half, Stark certainly should.

The video I didn’t know I needed until now 🤯. Thanks!

Could you imagine Starrk v. Askin? Head canon, but that fight would have been amazing. Two characters who are amazing at what they do, but have total respect for each other.

Huge congrats for 120K MrTommo👍

Honestly a trio of stark grimmjow and hallibell would have been awesome

starrk vs lille would have been amazing, their abilities are way more similar than one might initially think in the manga, starrk's wolves are completely immortal, as long as starrk is healthy; he could sacrifice himself by not just splitting up his soul, but turning all of it into a wolf/nigh infinite wolves, which would then fight a giant owl and neither would be able to hurt the other. this would either buy enough time for shunsui to shit out another deus ex machina bs finisher, or maybe starrk just blows up and it magically kills lille because we don't know exactly what the owl guy can survive in his final form - technically it just has to damage him enough to replicate the god paddle effect

Starrk was definitely one of my favorite characters while reading bleach, and debatably my favorite espada. He deserved more and HOPEFULLY he somehow comes back with this new hell arc and shares a friendship with Shunsui and the other espada, just wishful thinking because man. He was great

I feel as if Stark was supposed to show us some what of how Shunsui might have been before when he was way younger. He shares a lot of the similarities as Shunsui except that he is not a seasoned veteran like him. Great video!!! I love how the arrancars shook things up and have a new layer of character to every shinigami they engaged with

They brought back Luppi and not Starrk in the TYBW. What injustice.

Starrk is mad strong and people just dont realize. -Was pushing Shunsui to bankai -Wasn't fighting at his fullest yet he was still able to take out 3 captain level shinigamis without much effort -Only 1 cero got Shunsui down for quite a while -Can fire an unlimited amount of ceros and etc, this guy is just cracked bruh. If he didn't hold back since the start he could have probably beaten Shunsui due to the fact that Shunsui couldn't use his bankai.

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Very cool thought experiment! I wasn't a huge fan of Starrk even though I experienced him anime first; however, I do think you do have some cool plot points that could have been made! Thanks!

This was awesome!

U r now the reason why I love naps Cuz when i wake up i get an Amazing Bleach Vid 😁😁

what if when Lillinette dies shes just brought back into Starkk? like she still "exists" just not in a physical form, or it takes some time for her to re-manifest a physical form. Maybe they have a shinigami and zanpakuto-esque relationship (which i guess they kind of of already do with her transforming into the pistols for their resurrection) and she would just return to Starkk's version of an inner world for some time?

OH MY GOD ANOTHER VIDEO OF MY FAVOURITE ESPADAAAAA thank you mr.Tommo Edit : Wait wait guys i am not being sarcastic i genuinely love him. There is so less content abt him that it SUCKS. Every single vid matters when it's for my primera boy

imagine of both stark and ulquiorria both survived and turn good. my 5 favorite arrancars surviving and joining the good guys. how epic would that be.

Idea: What if Ishida killed Mayuri? (In the battle between Ishida and Mayuri in Soul Society Arc, Ishida tried to kill Mayuri, but failed and Mayuri escaped. You should make a video about what happened if Ishida actually killed Mayuri there.)

I absolutely love starrk and his layed back attitude even in serious situations, curiously his aspect of death - solitude - is similar to Ulquiorra's emptiness in that they are both struggling with the burden of loneliness. To be alone is to be the only one... Zangetsu : I wonder if you can understand... the fear of being rained on in this lonely world...

I'd love to imagine Starrk survived, then went back to being chill afterwards. His character left so many questions rather than answers.

Shunsui and Starrk fighting together would've been perfect! I love this What if? series. Great video Mr. Tommo!

Mr Tommo: "What if Starrk survives? Simple. We kill him."

Ngl this was a wholesome analysis

When human becomes a hollow, he loses his heart (represented by a hole in his body) and a mask is formed. I like to think that Stark eyepatch is a representation of Lilinette heart ^^

I was rewatching a few of your videos and came across the mature Hitsugaya bankai video. I couldn't find a video where you discuss ‎Hyōrinmaru. I recall it being a weird one where two people owned the same sword and then were forced to kill each other. It seems like a rather interesting discussion. Could you discuss Hyōrinmaru?

I've been waiting for this for so long lol

I love this video! I do believe that Starrk would be a wonderful addition to the last arc of the story. I do see him being a little bit like the equivalent of Kyoraku when it comes to the Espada so maybe that is why Kubo cut him off but nonetheless, he would have brought a lot of character development for Kyoraku himself and the other Espada survivors. He would serve as a reminder of the pinnacle of what an Arrancar can be and could have become a sort of "ultimate protector" of hueco mundo. I wanted just to point out that even if Lilinette is "dead" I believe she can be easily revived by applying the same logic that Unohana did to Ichigo's Bankai. His resurrection is his true form where he recovers the Reiatsu that is split between his two bodies, so, even if you effectively "kill" one of the two recipients, healing the remaining one using Kidou-based techniques should do the trick. Just like Ichigo's garments in Bankai get fixed when Unohana healed him, I believe that Lilinette should be back to normal if Unohana healed Starrk's surviving body after Orihime fixed him physically. Wonderful video! thanks for the space of discussion and I am looking forward to the next one.

Yeah....I really wished he came back....either survived or revived I'm mean it would have been interesting

Starkk was one of my favorites, and getting a fight between him and Haschwalth would've been a great showing for both parties there to showcase property what they could do

Ever tought about how Kubo introduces cenarios to us by ilustrating this in other characters (an example is Ichigo being introduced to Zampakutous not by his mentors, but by Renji) So, maybe the feeling of lonliness shownd to us by Stark isn't a preview about Aizen's heart when Ichigo talks about his sword?

I wish all of what you said in the video was canon. So many of us would have definitely loved this.

I want to live in a world where Starrk and Ulquiorra survived.

I feel like his death was really rushed tbh. During the whole fight, Kubo made it clear that Starrk had the major upper hand against Shunsui, but then he just... died. Not much of an explanation, and not much sense involved.

Yeah I really wanted Starrk to survive. Kubo did him a bit dirty. One little thing that bugs me is how underwhelming the Top 3 Espada turned out to be compared to their build up. Im not saying that they are weak necessarily but that I dont know why Kubo made them look weak. Probably just me but meh. Anyways good What If, really liked it and agreed with your view.

Amazing Character for sure & Starrk is my fav Espada of all time!!

The idea of strarrk dying for shunsui is pretty ironic, since he became a vasto lorde, his power down right killed other hollows because they're close to him, but now that he finally found an ally that he consider as his equal and him dying for that ally that he was longing for such a long time would've been a great character development and I'd love starrk's character even more if that actually happened

You should do more what ifs for bleach I like your takes

Keep on riffing, tommo 👍👍

Yo! You should have written Bleach!!! Your ideas are so brilliant 👏 The gun fight idea 😲 OMG !! Geez

I always wondered about it. His return in TYBW would have been ultimate

Honestly I think another cool arc for him in TYBW would be rescuing Halibel. So his intention isn't to just protect his home, but also rescue his friend. This way you could have everything else play out the same, but add in a whole new set of fights going on at the same time. Who he would end up fighting is another matter. I am not sure if I want it to be a main Quincy of some kind, or just him cleaning house with trash no names, in a raw display of power. This way we get some character growth and an explanation of how Halibel is freed. Another way to go about this is him initially helping in the fight with Shunsui, but then have him told to leave to avoid the Bankai. Maybe have Shunsui tells him he has someone left who needs him and could make a nice bit of dialogue with Lily in there. This way we get the gun fight you mention....because yes we need that in our lives.

Personally, if Starrk survived, I think, he could like re-separate Lillinette from himself again. Next, if Starrk came through, and ended up helping Shunsui I’d have liked them to have a moment of understanding. A moment where their ideals not really clash, but meet in a more heart felt way. Like, if Starrk sacrifices himself to save Shunsui, Shunsui then is able to end lil barrel (that’s his rap name), and Shunsui asks something like “you know, you could have killed him, but you saved me instead. Why?” And Starrk answer “because letting people die isn’t my style.” And we get like a nice inner monologue from Starrk about how “if I can save those who can stand beside me, those that make me feel like I’m not alone, I’ll do it.” Or something to that extent. Then get another moment between him and Shunsui where Shunsui’s like “For a Espada you sure do care a lot. it would have been nice to share a drink with you. I’m sorry everytime we meet it’s always under these tumultuous situations.” And Starrk hearing what Shunsui is saying and be like “you were the first real opponent I ever had. The first to meet me as an equal. In wakeo mundo that’s as close to friends as you can get when you’re the premier Espada.” Make it seem like Starrk saw Shunsui as an equal or something. Idk I’m not getting paid to do this I’m just writing a KZfaq comment lol 😂 I’m going back to sleep Edit: I’d also like to see when Starrk shows up him get the drop on Robert Acutrone (I think that’s how u spell it) just to have that “you’re good, but I’m better.” Moment, you know?

I hope that one day you'll do a "What If Ichigo Was Born in the Sereti?" Because I have a lot of Ideas for it lol

I like the idea that if Starrk survived and Lilinette survived, that Starrk would be stuck in ressurection. Or you could go so far that Starrk and Lilinette do survive but Lilinette can't form a physical body anymore, leaving Starrk to always have a repaired eyepatch, again mirroring Shunsui. Good video either way Tommo, Starrk is one of my favorites both as a character and design in Bleach!

I really like Stark he is my favorite espada and I wish I had seen him in the final arc although Kubo gave him a great ending, especially in the anime, with his loss of Lilynette and his return to being alone in his last moments.

If starrk did assist shunsui and he saw him use his bankai he’d say something like this “so this is what you were holding off” or something like that

I love the idea of Coyote Stark patrolling the deserts of Hueco Mundo as the 'Law Keeper'

I can see him helping in the fight and being told to get away when bankai was being released. Only to run into Nanao talk about how she cant interfere in her captains sacrifice then being talked around by her talking about not abandoning comrades. He then takes her to the fight after the bankai is finished and then fights giving her time to retrieve her sword and receive guidance before she inevitably finishes things

Totally agree, Stark would have loved the new Hueco Mundo, not taking the top spot due to his laziness, leaving it to Harribel and Neliel, even if staying in Las Noches and protecting it (like someway did Rudobone too). As for the quincies invasion, maybe yes, killing most of the main army, but then be taken down by Haschwalth or the Yhwach himself (probabily off-panel, like it was for Harribel). That said, if we assume that the final part of Bleach had been better managed (cause you see, Grimmjow and Neliel helped on Askin front, but they didn't play a major role, not even did a lot of other guys), seen him helping Kyoraku and facing another gun user would have been so interesting, not only for show his relation with the captain commander and put aside the past working now togheter, but also for the fight itself, between the three number ones of their factions. For the rest, as I already said, I'm still wondering if we'll see him and Ulquiorra in the eventually Hell Chapter. They were not really evil or violent, like other arrancars, even if they followed and obeyed to Aizen, out of a kind of devotion. But at the same time, they were the strongest Espada for reiatsu, Stark also died in the Soul Society, so even we know they perform the ritual only for the shinigami (still the question if they did for Tosen and Gin as well), in theory the same problem with the captains huge reiatsu should apply to the espada as well, evil or "neutral" they were. Hope to see them again.

Personally I would have loved to see starrk switch sides and become a captain I think that would have been awesome! It’s great to see another video about starrk he’s such a great character that deserved so much more!!! Why do you think Kubo had Starrk ask to see a bankai but killed him off before he could ever see one?🤔

I never saw Lilinette not talking as "Dying" I always saw that as Lilly fused back with starrk, or starrk fused with Lilly. They were originally 1 person and releasing resurrection just meant they went back to being 1. Starrk just couldn't handle being alone and he started to get sad and give up.

He deserve to be part of the gotei. He would be a good captain to replace aizen. Pros: he’s lazy and momo could take charge of squad 5 given her character development. He want to be part of a group so the captain spot with over a hundred people under him.

i would wanna see stark vs robert accutrone.

The slash that killed Stark was enough to kill him not just because it was deep, but because it was a result of Iro Oni. Shunsui chose the color black and slashed at Stark's hollow hole, which gives access to his interior, which of course is completely black. Amd Shunsui was also wearing only his shihakushō at the moment, so he was also covered in black. The more of the chosen color is present on both the opponent and on you, the most damage Iro Oni causes. That's why a "simple" slash was able to finish of the Primera Espada

urahara could help him to stabilize his power in the same way he helped neliel, so he could use his resurrection once more

Considering how Harribel was shafted I don’t really have my hopes up.

I can easily see that stark and kyouraku makes a olan where stark doesnt get affected by kyouraku's Bankai, but the plan doesnt go as planned and stark yells at kyouraku to use it anyway, and then sacrifices himself. This lends itself for some Nice, slowpaced inner dialougue for stark where he explains thst he is happy for the New life, and that he can rest in peace for the New friends he has gotten.

As an artist you have no idea how much I wanna draw this now...

A rematch with Jugram would be dope, Stark and Kyoraku vs Jugram

I remember reading somewhere that someone theorized if Starrk was subconsciously/unconsciously suicidal toward the end of the battle so he more or less accepted his death more easily, as if he wanted a death wish after losing comrades and/or Lilinette, ultimately giving up emotionally and mentally whether he's aware of it or not. I don't remember the full details on it but they included some details that was quite compelling and added on to this theory.

I only saw Stark's fight in the anime, I had no idea the end was different in the manga. I haven't read the manga version, so I can't compare, but I loved the anime version. It was really heartbroken to see him depressed, almost giving up after Lilinette's death. And eventually, he dies alone. Although I love the character, it'd kind of ruine the tragedy of the character if he he survived and made a come back.

If Starrk had to go up against a gun-toting sternritter, Robert Accutrone would've been perfect. Kyoraku could've started his fight like normal but then been blind sided by Robert, giving us a hint at his schrift. Then Starrk could've arrived, taking over the battle after watching from afar and feeling motivated to fight. He could've drawn out the actual schrift and then potentially be taken out by Robert's vollstandich, giving Kyoraku all the info he needed to take Robert out

If Starrk survived, I can imagine him as the last line of defence against the Quincy invasion. He doesn't have the heart of a warrior but he long for an home and would probably be ready to die to protect it. I can imagine him being the one to actually refuse to surrender until the end and force the Quincy to kill him. Also, I'm quite sure he wouldn't be an easy target for the Quincy. I can actually imagine him defeating few sternritter and forcing Gremmy or Hascwalth to step in.