British Railwaves: APT

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Isee3

Isee3

Күн бұрын

Well, we have electrified the WCML • British Railwaves: Wes... - so how about a nice new train to go along with it?
0:00 - APT (Brandon - Vice)
4:17 - Failure (Atrey - Dark Prince)
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@VermyScrubs
@VermyScrubs Жыл бұрын
The APT will forever remain as proof that you could design the best technology possible with the most amount of benefits to the people but ultimately bureaucracy will always attempt to stop you and 9 times out of 10, they will succeed.
@stewartellinson8846
@stewartellinson8846 Жыл бұрын
Tories. Tories hate the public sector and withdraw all funding, so that the "private sector" can do it. IE, cut it, flog it to your mates and buy it back at an inflated price.
@True_NOON
@True_NOON 10 ай бұрын
Brandnew kitchen gun!
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 ай бұрын
.......and the current bureaucracy has proved that again with the HS2 fiasco.
@jamesshanley92
@jamesshanley92 8 ай бұрын
see hs2 now... we never learn
@cmrd_hdcrb
@cmrd_hdcrb 7 ай бұрын
​​@@barrieshepherd7694Let's be quite honest tho. The way HS2 was supposed to be built was quite dumb and frankly too expensive. Instead of passing through the middle of nowhere, cutting through farms, fields etc., in many places you could have simply added two track besides existing rail lines and when necessairy pass under cities. Out of curiosity I looked at the existing HS2 Route and tried to find a better one, completely drive able at 350 kmh. Wasn't too difficult either just some more gentle curves here and there... Basically another case of politics blaming engineers and the like for problems politics cause. Would have been quite easily been able to extend up to york with my layout. About 60 - 70 % of the length could have been done next to existing linies. But no...
@ioh969
@ioh969 Жыл бұрын
What could've been, should've been? The future! Top railwave!
@DarkSitesChannel
@DarkSitesChannel 7 ай бұрын
British Railwave the music genre I didn't know I needed! This would have made every journey feel like an episode of Miami Vice.
@Reaper1770
@Reaper1770 Жыл бұрын
I love how In one of the reports it says Hornby gets the apt right. My Hornby apt’s camshaft broke and the capacitor blew and caught fire
@somax1259
@somax1259 Жыл бұрын
i hope mine doesnt ...
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 9 ай бұрын
Your 2021 APT was made long after this video. The earlier model had no cardan shaft (not a camshaft).
@cedarcam
@cedarcam 8 ай бұрын
@@TheRip72 You are right It was the biggest waste on money I ever spent on a model and the same happened to mine on the day I got it. My old APT ran fine for years until I converted my layout to DCC. I still have the old one and the new on is put back in the boxes.
@kieranstravels
@kieranstravels Жыл бұрын
Imagine if these actually got beyond the trial phase and were widely introduced.. It makes me wonder how different the timeline of the WCML would've been. Loco hauled services probably would've been phased out decades earlier then they were, Amd the 390/voyagers may of never came to be.. That's a wild thing to think about.
@Isee3
@Isee3 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. By now though, the APT would have been replaced - which makes me wonder, would we have ended up with a larger fleet of Hitachi 800s? Or perhaps would we have come up with something else?
@kieranstravels
@kieranstravels Жыл бұрын
@@Isee3 I think just based on the current timeline of events, Virgin would've still gotten the franchise for the WCML, which would've likely seen them refurbish the APTs - Then maybe at some point in the late 2010s, they would've placed a joint IET order for the then ECML franchise, and the WCML franchise, with only the latter ever making it under virgin. Places like Liverpool South Parkway would've been served a lot sooner, but at the cost of severe discomfort for all passengers on the WCML.
@markhall3140
@markhall3140 Жыл бұрын
They don’t mention the InterCity 225 which worked, was designed for tilt to be added & reused the Apt tech.
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro Жыл бұрын
@@Isee3 I thought class 800s were cool initially but now it seems like the only model of intercity train in the country is going to be a class 800 derivative in a minute.
@PeteS_1994
@PeteS_1994 Жыл бұрын
What about hs2
@Sorbus79
@Sorbus79 Ай бұрын
All time favourite! Great vid. I still have my Rail Riders APT tee shirt, and my nippers have all had their time wearing it
@thatguyshawzy
@thatguyshawzy 9 ай бұрын
Privatisation fucked our rails.
@erikaitsumi3852
@erikaitsumi3852 Жыл бұрын
Nice, I was waiting for more from my new favourite genre. "Railwave"
@Isee3
@Isee3 Жыл бұрын
There will be a double dose this week....
@Marnerbanana
@Marnerbanana 3 ай бұрын
find the TGV synth video, you'll love it
@YukariAkiyamaTanks
@YukariAkiyamaTanks Жыл бұрын
The APT was a symbol of British engineering. Though it was flop, I still believe it was a fantastic idea.
@BritishTrainspotting
@BritishTrainspotting Жыл бұрын
Except it wasn't a flop, the government and press bullied it out of existence. By the time it was taken out of service for the last time, the problems were practically solved. APT-E was the APT Experimental. APT-P was the APT Prototype, which tested and refined the new technology, obviously new technology would have issues, but they get fixed. APT-S would have been the APT Squadron, the production APT with all issues solved.
@YukariAkiyamaTanks
@YukariAkiyamaTanks Жыл бұрын
​@@BritishTrainspotting exactly
@BritishTrainspotting
@BritishTrainspotting Жыл бұрын
@@YukariAkiyamaTanks A flop that never should have been!
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 9 ай бұрын
@@BritishTrainspotting I think the InterCity 225 is the APT-S as it was developed from the APT, the Mk4 coaches look like the APT but without the shared bogies, single power car at one end of the train etc...
@cedarcam
@cedarcam 8 ай бұрын
@@BritishTrainspottingI was told by Mr Tilt as he is known, one of the designers I met at York model show when Rapido were planning their APT-E model. One problem was APT-P used lower spec components for the tilt system and particles of seals were blocking a hydraulic oil filter causing the tilt failures BR Research had specified what components to use but as ever there were those who thought the cost was too high and forced BREL to get cheaper. When the project was cancelled that and most other problems had been solved but the press got their way with their untrue stories. Today the Pendolino tilts but you do not hear of anyone being ill on that because it is tilting. APT was far more advanced than they are with an active tilt system rather than a passive one used today. The difference is a much smoother ride because the trains onboard sensors detected the correct amount of tilt needed for the speed of the train. The derailment was not caused by bolts working loose, it was a hollow axle turbine brake that had a part assembled incorrectly which caused the axle to break when the water flowed in, another problem they made sure could not happen again by modification of the design.
@oldtechnobodycaresabout
@oldtechnobodycaresabout Жыл бұрын
Tilty boi
@ccpro8047
@ccpro8047 Жыл бұрын
this fits the theme of synthwave so well: yesterdays tomorrow and this was yesterdays tomorrow
@greyfox8194
@greyfox8194 Жыл бұрын
lets gooooooooooo more railwaves to vibe to
@EmperorJake
@EmperorJake Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I saw one of these recently, it was parked behind a Tesco in Crewe
@buryy4764
@buryy4764 Жыл бұрын
pretty much the only ‘full’ display of one in the uk
@kitspackman3994
@kitspackman3994 Жыл бұрын
It's actually displayed at the Crewe Heritage Centre, along with many other railway exhibits. And it's the only APT-P still left. The gas turbine powered APT-E is displayed at the Locomotion Museum at Shildon in Co. Durham.
@Baloongis2
@Baloongis2 8 ай бұрын
I went there recently
@charlie1872
@charlie1872 Жыл бұрын
A very special train. What would we have today had it been allowed it’s time…,
@garybridge-ku7bf
@garybridge-ku7bf Ай бұрын
Great upload, I still think it looks way way ahead of its time' the people who worked and designed this train should be very proud of themselves. I wish I could of travelled on this beautiful train.
@tjshill82
@tjshill82 13 күн бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video
@cptlatency428
@cptlatency428 3 ай бұрын
Never given a second chance, what could have been...
@shereejackson5169
@shereejackson5169 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, always cool to see another one
@satyris410
@satyris410 Жыл бұрын
omg this is a total vibe
@toddhunter3137
@toddhunter3137 2 ай бұрын
I bet if any of that apt merchandise still exists it'll be worth a absolute fortune these days with collectors and enthusiasts.
@Reaper1770
@Reaper1770 Жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhhh babyyy. It’s back
@chasechildress2720
@chasechildress2720 10 ай бұрын
If they just wouldn't have rushed it into service it might have worked.
@MontyComedyOfficial
@MontyComedyOfficial Ай бұрын
And about 20 - 25 years later we got the Pendolino! Practically the same train... but made by... the Italians. 😅
@killwize
@killwize 7 ай бұрын
!RETRO FUTURISM. Woke up to this, ThANKYO*U@!
@slavvy.mp4884
@slavvy.mp4884 6 ай бұрын
Of all the things that Margaret thacher ruined, the APT project was certainly one of the more painful ones to lose.
@DoktorLorenz
@DoktorLorenz Ай бұрын
Another thing Maggie killed off was BT fully fibring the UK all in the name of competition, she actually blocked BT from actually putting fibre into each and every property in the UK. BT actually had in house fibre optic manufacturing which was later sold off in early 90s.
@doubletrigger
@doubletrigger Жыл бұрын
Epic soundtrack
@breakitbreakit9765
@breakitbreakit9765 8 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9B3qN1_tbydm2Q.html
@kineticdeath
@kineticdeath 10 ай бұрын
best part is so many years after politicing killed this train dead, the UK rail operators now import tilting trains from outside nations. I bet those old politicians feel so great these days, assuming any of them are still left
@stevedonoghue3870
@stevedonoghue3870 Ай бұрын
Stil looks good now
@ccpro8047
@ccpro8047 Жыл бұрын
the class 800 never came close
@somax1259
@somax1259 Жыл бұрын
i just realised the apt has some things in common the the flirt trains, the centralised power car suspended bogies every where except the power cars and one door per side (forget about the class 231) i think
@danielsellers8707
@danielsellers8707 6 ай бұрын
Yes they look very much like the APT...
@2kjohnyboyc
@2kjohnyboyc 6 ай бұрын
Blame the man who thought he knew best and swapped the hydraulics for air bags 🤮
@laurenceskinnerton73
@laurenceskinnerton73 10 ай бұрын
Blame the Treasury!
@smorkeyyy9845
@smorkeyyy9845 3 ай бұрын
I remember it being mocked by a comedy programme shown by the British Paedo TV channel. The APT was cancelled soon afterwards. They seem to be good at rubbishing British innovations.
@user-bi3zc8vb9z
@user-bi3zc8vb9z Ай бұрын
電車でDの四国2000系並みに傾いてて草
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын
The APT-P formation was not good. The central power cars meant you had to duplicate all services either side of the power cars.
@simonwinn387
@simonwinn387 3 ай бұрын
Is that Enoch Powell driving the train?
@BritishTrainspotting
@BritishTrainspotting Жыл бұрын
Could you include music sources for railwaves videos please?
@Isee3
@Isee3 Жыл бұрын
I shall include them, as like in the other videos, in the description later :)
@BritishTrainspotting
@BritishTrainspotting Жыл бұрын
@@Isee3 Thanks!
@gwrydd
@gwrydd 3 ай бұрын
Wonder what’s going to happen to this in coming years since currently it’s just sat rusting at Crewe
@thepacerman
@thepacerman Ай бұрын
its a museum, not rusting
@Ozzy-does-stuff
@Ozzy-does-stuff 6 ай бұрын
#revivetheAPTproject
@andrewcumming7769
@andrewcumming7769 Жыл бұрын
It was so close ;_;
@DarkSitesChannel
@DarkSitesChannel Ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irB3fLCLkrLckX0.htmlsi=O-haqcnuq9jakowd 1:53 is that a young Jeremy Corbyn 😅
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 2 ай бұрын
That _bloody_ music
@ithewonder
@ithewonder 10 ай бұрын
Just bits of other documentries stuck together with crap music
@Baloongis2
@Baloongis2 8 ай бұрын
Wdym crap music?
@ithewonder
@ithewonder 8 ай бұрын
@@Baloongis2 The "music" isn't needed as you can't hear the narrators talking about it, it's...well crap !
@toddhunter3137
@toddhunter3137 2 ай бұрын
There's always one, no ones forcing you to watch this video.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 2 ай бұрын
​@@toddhunter3137 Yet we are being forced to try and make out what the ITN newsreader chap is occasionally whispering.
@toddhunter3137
@toddhunter3137 2 ай бұрын
​@@JP_TaVeryMuchPersonally I think the music 🎶 does quite well with this. It sort of captures the idea of it all back then.
@fatwalletboy2
@fatwalletboy2 Жыл бұрын
Just regurgitated old footage with god awful music.
@Tracks_And_Chill
@Tracks_And_Chill 11 ай бұрын
Whops! Looks like your opinion is *INVALID* please don't try again.
@randomsnow6510
@randomsnow6510 8 ай бұрын
​@@Tracks_And_ChillBASED BASED BASED BASED
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