MTA defends new open gangway subway cars

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5 ай бұрын

There is a hiccup in the rollout of the MTA’s new “open gangway” subway cars.

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@dcox9036
@dcox9036 5 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with train cars being connected this way. I have been in ither cities with train cars like this, I found it easy to walk to the next car.
@Imakeepitabuck44
@Imakeepitabuck44 5 ай бұрын
You forgetting we live in New York
@juanastisaenz
@juanastisaenz 5 ай бұрын
@@Imakeepitabuck44 The thing is, this characteristic has been a standard around the subway systems of the world since the early 90s, the only systems that haven't adopted open gangways yet are the ones located in the US
@lennypinskiy6598
@lennypinskiy6598 5 ай бұрын
The fact that it is easy to walk to the next car, IS the problem. How do you escape the crazies on the train now, when they made it easier for them to follow you?!?!?
@juanastisaenz
@juanastisaenz 5 ай бұрын
@@lennypinskiy6598 That's not a design problem, that's a security problem inside the NYC subway. Doesn't matter if you connect or keep the cars disconnected, you need to address the root of the problem if you want to stop those incidents (I understand that's way more difficult and there's not one solution or an easy one)
@IandIpowa
@IandIpowa 5 ай бұрын
@@juanastisaenz And what's the root of the problem?
@BrakeCoach
@BrakeCoach 5 ай бұрын
Finally, American subways are catching up to the rest of the world, away from age old conventions.
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan 5 ай бұрын
The DART still has doors between carriages
@luislaplume8261
@luislaplume8261 5 ай бұрын
​@@OscarOSullivanYou mean the light rail vehicles that run in trains during rush hours in Dallas, Texas.
@Crazy-Clown-In-Town
@Crazy-Clown-In-Town 4 ай бұрын
Now they need to catch up on how to behave on subway trains. Ahhh...who am I kidding.
@Shander5123
@Shander5123 5 ай бұрын
It’s a great design. How do the idiots get on top of the train to subway surf and die ?! They climb from in between the train cars. The MTA is doing their part, one last excuse for these sorry “parents” to make
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes they jump on the back of the train and climb up from there. I’ve seen fools doing it.
@Crazy-Clown-In-Town
@Crazy-Clown-In-Town 4 ай бұрын
Sad that they’re making it harder now for these fools to subway surf. LOL.
@Mwoppdzd
@Mwoppdzd 3 ай бұрын
That's none of yall business worry abt yaself🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@FanOFGodN11
@FanOFGodN11 5 ай бұрын
Yes, let's have 50 years old cars going to the airport. It's great first impression for the tourists.
@whitetrashmillionare4858
@whitetrashmillionare4858 5 ай бұрын
Tourist don't take subway from the airport!
@cats0182
@cats0182 5 ай бұрын
I don't give a damn about impressions for tourists (first, second, lasting or any other).
@alecsc
@alecsc 5 ай бұрын
@@whitetrashmillionare4858 you'd be surprised
@alecsc
@alecsc 5 ай бұрын
@@cats0182you might not, but the city does.
@kueller917
@kueller917 5 ай бұрын
​@@whitetrashmillionare4858 I always take the subway when I visit. But the E has the newer trains anyways with the video displays.
@jonstechchannel
@jonstechchannel 5 ай бұрын
Are people really complaining about this? Trains all over the world have open gangways
@Lorre982
@Lorre982 5 ай бұрын
In my city the metros gas open gangway since 1998
@jonathanprince3724
@jonathanprince3724 5 ай бұрын
This is a great idea to have open subway cars. It's good to know what's happening around you, even in other cars. It also help the police see through other cars. Good safety plan!!!!!👍
@jonathanprince3724
@jonathanprince3724 5 ай бұрын
@@Grersh There's alot of what if. But everyone main focus should be our safety riding the trains. I would definitely like to know what's going on in the next cars. And I'm sure the police would like to know too!!!!!
@samueltorres521
@samueltorres521 5 ай бұрын
And also prevent the surfing
@blpalv15
@blpalv15 5 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanprince3724those are not really "what ifs". Those things happen on a daily basis, multiple times a day. As for the safety issue, if someone comes in harassing someone, there is no escaping.
@jonathanprince3724
@jonathanprince3724 5 ай бұрын
@@blpalv15 Those things are what ifs. Because this is nyc and a nasty city to live in. A person will smell shit and piss on the train or off. The subway tunnels are nothing but a sewer because people go in between the cars to relieve themselves. Hopefully now the open train cars will put a end to that filth. As far as no where to Xscape during a emergency. There are conductors on every train that can radio the police at anytime.
@Aatrixian
@Aatrixian 5 ай бұрын
@@jonathanprince3724 If you actually used common sense in that noggin of yours, you'd be able to determine that the open train cars will only make the filth worse. You basically contradicted yourself by saying *"Those things are what ifs. Because this is nyc and a nasty city to live in."* It's not a 'what-if' since those things are happening regularly, and as you already admitted, it's because nyc is nasty and uncivilized. I really like the design of the open gangway cars, but just as @what-co7od mentioned, it will just create more of a safety issue and a bigger inconvenience for hygiene. If a shooter enters those cars, they have the capability to shoot more people a lot quicker and more efficiently. If someone takes drugs or smokes in the train, the fumes will spread throughout more cars, and nobody will be able to escape unless they all leave to the other half of the train, which will cause more crowding. The same applies to people taking dumps and pissing in the train. This applies to people blasting music and people fooling around, running through the train causing their ruckus. The open-gangways will not fix the problem, they will only make it worse. Use your brain.
@zippyspeedmonkey
@zippyspeedmonkey 5 ай бұрын
They’re perfectly fine. We’ve had them for years up here in Toronto. If anything they make a more pleasant ride as they help to alleviate crowding.
@graffmixer
@graffmixer 5 ай бұрын
NYC is the first in the U.S. to have these open gangway trains so I understand the choice especially they're going to be in the spotlight.
@cats0182
@cats0182 5 ай бұрын
Except the BMT had a couple sets of open gangway cars in the late 1920's (The Triplex Cars). I remember riding on them before they were removed from service. Of course, things were different back then.
@AndrewTheRadarMan
@AndrewTheRadarMan 5 ай бұрын
Los Angeles' metro has open gangways
@graffmixer
@graffmixer 5 ай бұрын
@@AndrewTheRadarMan I think you're talking about their light rail system. Totally different
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews 5 ай бұрын
Honolulu Metro’s trains are four car trains with open gangways + in Canada every metro system got open gangway trains for almost a decade now
@planesofhawaii
@planesofhawaii 5 ай бұрын
no Skyline was first in Honolulu
@railwaystuff
@railwaystuff 5 ай бұрын
how come metros in europe dont have such problems? nearly all of them are open gangway by now
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 5 ай бұрын
Europeans have the decency to respect public infrastructure. Americans think they shouldn’t even be taxed to maintain roads, let alone an elaborate urban rail network.
@peterelvery
@peterelvery 5 ай бұрын
Having watched this twice, I have no idea what the issue is. Something about not being able to jump between cars to inspect the brakes after an emergency stop. Aren't there emergency walkways and exits in the tunnels?
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 5 ай бұрын
In my country I remember train staff will instead ask passengers to make way for them so they can board each train car & access the brake control panel at the end of each car's interior, so that they can release the brakes once the train has been given the all-clear
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710 5 ай бұрын
I think its because those only exsist for the local tracks running either side of the express tracks.
@peterelvery
@peterelvery 5 ай бұрын
@@Gfynbcyiokbg8710 Thanks. Seems like a unique-to-NYC problem. In Sydney (Australia, not Nova Scotia😉) we've had walk-through trains running underground since 1988. We have also had energency brake systems that reset themselves automatically if the "driver vigilance" system determines that the driver is alive and well, for even longer..
@AussieGunzel
@AussieGunzel 5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but Australia and Europe have done this for decades and heck even other North America cities for that matter too.
@timafiggy
@timafiggy 5 ай бұрын
These trains run on open Bridges too.
@brett8706
@brett8706 5 ай бұрын
Ok, someone break this down for me. There are two sets per consist- that means no one can go through between the sets. Why is this an issue for the conductor to do inspections as they have keys? When they were doing tests on these cars, they were then running like express trains. What is the big fuss about?
@AMT1345
@AMT1345 5 ай бұрын
We have them a lot up in Montreal with the AZUR train sets
@samrah25
@samrah25 5 ай бұрын
This is going to be great! It'll stink 🦨 from the front to back now. No escape 🤣
@samueltorres521
@samueltorres521 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂alot of filty people in nyc that don’t shower or brush they teeth correctly and that’s why almost everyone has a stinky breath in the trains
@Mr.8CH
@Mr.8CH 5 ай бұрын
😂🤣😂
@Clare-tea
@Clare-tea 5 ай бұрын
💯
@apollospace9804
@apollospace9804 5 ай бұрын
​@samueltorres521, you're actually wrong about saying a lot of people don't brush their teeth and don't take showers, we actually do those things, but the people that dont take shows or brush their teeth is the ones that live on the country side, and it's kinda funny that you said that in the internet cause you would had been knock out real fast by New Yorkers, if you said that on the streets.
@BritainRitten
@BritainRitten 5 ай бұрын
That's more a problem for closed-off cars than this. How bad things smell is about a few things: 1) How much scent is being emitted, 2) how much of that scent reaches you, and 3) how much dissipation there is of the smell. Open gangway cars actually help with #3 directly. Also, open-gangway means you have a lot more ability to just move between cars, which helps with #2.
@GamingWeekends1
@GamingWeekends1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, what about the express section from Canal St and 59 St?
@luislaplume8261
@luislaplume8261 5 ай бұрын
In 1927 the D types subway trains of the BMT had open gangways in 3 section subway cars and they ran perfectly from 1927 til 1964 in express service in rush hours and in between.
@edwardp3502
@edwardp3502 5 ай бұрын
Looks like the Staten Island Railway is getting a few extra train sets with its new R211 order. No express tracks on that line, so problem solved.
@johnbu11
@johnbu11 5 ай бұрын
This is so American… big drama about technology that has been in service in other parts of the world for literally 50 years…
@timafiggy
@timafiggy 5 ай бұрын
Cool but any had the biggest Subway system compared to the rest of the country. If they say different their wrong. Not a train in sight for Florida cities unless it's a commuter which is the same as an Amtrak .
@TheBeagle58
@TheBeagle58 5 ай бұрын
Toronto, Montreal run them without issues, as do many other transit agencies. this is TA with its old fashioned way of still operating the system. and, what prevents the crew from getting hit by an express, if this has a BIE between stations, when the local track crew is walking around it. this is why this lie doesn't make a lick of sense, consistent with TA's foolishness.
@gerrylee1687
@gerrylee1687 5 ай бұрын
What happens when the local tracks are under construction?
@omar.w939
@omar.w939 5 ай бұрын
Here's what's going to happen, if something is happening on the local track, they have to discharge the passengers at a station and take the train out of service.
@aqua2poweros699
@aqua2poweros699 5 ай бұрын
R211T won't run until it is fixed for it to be able to run on express tracks
@mazzamaz3827
@mazzamaz3827 5 ай бұрын
​@@omar.w939 and then provide buses for service
@graffmixer
@graffmixer 5 ай бұрын
Then it will run on the express. He's not saying that the trains can't run on the express. He's just designating them for the local (C).
@r160aexpress5
@r160aexpress5 5 ай бұрын
Most likely will sleep at the train yard
@number2664
@number2664 5 ай бұрын
What is the issue with the brake inspection?
@shreddersaurusrex323
@shreddersaurusrex323 5 ай бұрын
No escape from bozos if they get on the train lol
@Baconsped3
@Baconsped3 5 ай бұрын
ur one of them
@shreddersaurusrex323
@shreddersaurusrex323 5 ай бұрын
@@Baconsped3 Lol
@IandIpowa
@IandIpowa 5 ай бұрын
🤡🫵🏿​@@Baconsped3
@robroy6374
@robroy6374 5 ай бұрын
@philip.julianvlog9500 nice to see you’re defending this crappy open gangway train
@Baconsped3
@Baconsped3 5 ай бұрын
@@robroy6374 ok goofy bozo
@dvijay461
@dvijay461 5 ай бұрын
How do I escape the smelly person in the cart next to me now? Clean up the homelessness and drugs.
@JoseRivera-ot3lh
@JoseRivera-ot3lh 5 ай бұрын
One fart and 400 people are gonna feel it.
@user-ot6oc7mk1s
@user-ot6oc7mk1s 5 ай бұрын
But at least it's gonna be less concentrated and won't turn a single wagon into a gas chamber.
@jimmy052k
@jimmy052k 5 ай бұрын
lol new? paris have had this in service since the late 90s 🤣🤣
@yolo_burrito
@yolo_burrito 5 ай бұрын
Its an old process or procedure that’s stopping them from using the trains. They need to revisit the procedures to see if it’s necessary on these units.
@BlimpCityFeeder
@BlimpCityFeeder 5 ай бұрын
More smiles for C, G & R line riders to match the finger gestures of mid-day A local riders?
@CLBT7437
@CLBT7437 5 ай бұрын
Just the C. The G and R already have modern subway cars
@BlimpCityFeeder
@BlimpCityFeeder 5 ай бұрын
@@CLBT7437 The 'Q' Line had modern subway cars when 2nd Ave Subway was opened. Just a thought.
@CLBT7437
@CLBT7437 5 ай бұрын
@@BlimpCityFeeder No shit, Sherlock.
@BlimpCityFeeder
@BlimpCityFeeder 5 ай бұрын
@@CLBT7437 Let me know when you see the forest from the trees.
@CLBT7437
@CLBT7437 5 ай бұрын
@@BlimpCityFeeder What a silly line.
@Voiceforthevoicelesspodcast
@Voiceforthevoicelesspodcast 5 ай бұрын
Of course they're going to say this. They dont ever ride the system only time they do is for photo ops. And when the cameras come out. They claim its not a problem now until it is one..
@apap1586
@apap1586 5 ай бұрын
And if there's a bum on that train stinking to joint up you can't get away..
@QuarioQuario54321
@QuarioQuario54321 5 ай бұрын
But they'll have nowhere to do it anyway
@FastCarsNoRules220
@FastCarsNoRules220 5 ай бұрын
Singapore has had open gangway trains since 1987. Though they have much more strict laws there, that's why their public transit is always clean and safe unlike in America.
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 5 ай бұрын
That's a broad assumption to say that there aren't parts of the USA that have clean and safe public transportation. Come to San Diego hop on the coaster. One of the cleanest public trains ever been on and they have brand new seimens charger locomotives that are quiet and cleaner than previous locos. Stop assuming things you don't know anything about
@yaush_
@yaush_ 5 ай бұрын
Also because you get caned if you commit a crime in Singapore
@averagejoe6031
@averagejoe6031 5 ай бұрын
Omg open gangway subways are just the norm everywhere else, why is the US so behind
@James_Knott
@James_Knott 5 ай бұрын
Toronto has had this for years. What's the problem?
@majorstokem8839
@majorstokem8839 5 ай бұрын
This was directly taken from Toronto's subway system and its well documented from Deblasio...
@Stanf954
@Stanf954 5 ай бұрын
I completely agree. The new R211 articulated car should not be operating where there is a large gap btw stations until all the bugs have been addressed and corrected. Experience has shown that the recently new equipment (R179- R188) that has been put into service on the C, E, F and 7 lines had issues that needed to be corrected even after the testing phase. The last thing that NYCT wants it a mechanical failure enroute on an express run that's btw stations and making it difficult to evacuate passengers or reach the train by car equipment, NYPD/FDNY or supervision. The A line has too many areas with long express runs in Mnhtn, Bklyn and Qns. The design is not flawed and this type has been in operation in Toronto, London, Paris, Toyko and other transit system worldwide. NYC has been slow to accept a change but they are getting there.
@Postmail7495
@Postmail7495 5 ай бұрын
Not queens by the way, only in Brooklyn and manhattan
@hogan7563
@hogan7563 5 ай бұрын
This would make…The Taking of Pelham 123 almost impossible
@canto_v12
@canto_v12 5 ай бұрын
NYC making a fuss about something trains in other countries have had for more than half a century? Say it ain’t so!
@juniorreview4212
@juniorreview4212 5 ай бұрын
Now you can move to another kart when is smell bad
@john_wick1
@john_wick1 5 ай бұрын
The new R211 currently run only on express tracks though...
@aqua2poweros699
@aqua2poweros699 5 ай бұрын
local*
@robotx9285
@robotx9285 5 ай бұрын
Every R211 I've seen in service were running express on the A train
@nyctransitrailfan
@nyctransitrailfan 5 ай бұрын
It’s the closed doors version, not the open gangway R211T fleet
@leozeo4704
@leozeo4704 5 ай бұрын
​@nyctransitrailfan But his reasoning is that they want new car classes making more frequent stops, when they already have a different version of a new car class that makes express stops. So his reasoning for why it's local only doesn't make much sense
@robotx9285
@robotx9285 5 ай бұрын
@leozeo4704 Express trains get more crowded than local trains, so I dunno why it' nor the other way around
@V3RSACHI
@V3RSACHI 5 ай бұрын
Is going to be alot of "show time"
@tld8102
@tld8102 5 ай бұрын
huh? everywhere around the world has these walk through gangways
@BlackHawkTejas
@BlackHawkTejas 5 ай бұрын
Who is this fine lady on the right with greyish/greenish dress? She looks amazing! Anybody knows her name or something?
@NickelPlateMxne
@NickelPlateMxne 5 ай бұрын
My genuine question is why even operate this in express lines when they announced that the 211Ts were announced to be put on permanent local lines, besides I think it’s best for the 211As to be put on express lines and have these put on local service instead
@Cesp43
@Cesp43 5 ай бұрын
They are temporarily only for local, they will get express service once issues are fixed.
@ZazzelTheGamer
@ZazzelTheGamer 5 ай бұрын
I hate it when the news cover anything about trains.
@planesofhawaii
@planesofhawaii 5 ай бұрын
Finally catching up to Honolulu Sykline
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710 5 ай бұрын
Finally catching up to what the rest of the world had decades ago
@42luke93
@42luke93 5 ай бұрын
they should still put doors in between
@stache1954
@stache1954 5 ай бұрын
Doublespeak.
@joelweisstuch4572
@joelweisstuch4572 5 ай бұрын
No there’s never a flaw with anything you build MTA
@S-CB-SL-Animations
@S-CB-SL-Animations 5 ай бұрын
Remember the Lemon Train, Joel. R179.
@joelweisstuch4572
@joelweisstuch4572 5 ай бұрын
@@S-CB-SL-Animations I know I was being sarcastic bro
@Manuel-ie7pr
@Manuel-ie7pr 5 ай бұрын
This has been proven technology for decades
@YAZZYUTUBE
@YAZZYUTUBE 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the MTA should have thought about that aspect before they ordered open gangway cars. Additionally, the MTA needs to investigate why there are so many incidents of the emergency brakes activating automatically and correct that issue. Unless there is a stopped train directly ahead the brakes shouldn't be activating by themselves.
@cashoutcraig9600
@cashoutcraig9600 5 ай бұрын
its not a problem with the train, its people pulling the emergency brakes for no reason, or people just vandalizing the train. Also there could be track debris thatll cause the emergency brakes to activate or a train operator not watching what theyre doing and accidently putting the emergency brakes on
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 5 ай бұрын
In my country some trains with CBTC signalling system auto-triggered the emergency brakes in 2016 when another train caused interference with those trains' communication systems
@dopelitonlyone2905
@dopelitonlyone2905 5 ай бұрын
*it's not a smooth operator."*
@chrisjct
@chrisjct 5 ай бұрын
This is stupid they been doing this for all new cars for years the r142 160 143 188 179 it's always been that way until they are sure the car sets work 😮 why people don't get this is sad
@blackpanda7298
@blackpanda7298 5 ай бұрын
It’s not a good idea.. farts will blow through, homeless ppl will walk the whole train..
@GabbieGirl007
@GabbieGirl007 5 ай бұрын
They do anything BUT add new t4ains .
@a6k_r179
@a6k_r179 5 ай бұрын
R179s >>>>>>>
@tpurnell01
@tpurnell01 5 ай бұрын
Nah... two thumbs down... no air circulation sometimes you gotta Crack the door if a homeless person come in... how do we out in case of smoke fire dark area assaults robbery in the gangway smh
@Vxllain
@Vxllain 5 ай бұрын
werent ya tha same ones that wanted these open gangway cars??? why ya complaining now???
@asifniaziroughcityny
@asifniaziroughcityny 5 ай бұрын
No one is working on this hundreds years old infra to bring it up to international standards . So where the money is going ? In the pockets of corrupts management & union . These gates are a laughing slap when foreign
@mikemanners5803
@mikemanners5803 5 ай бұрын
Agree those trains have no business on the express track
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 5 ай бұрын
news always negative about things. Walkable subway cars are long overdue in new york
@Itstonytime77
@Itstonytime77 5 ай бұрын
Maybe it will keep people from smoking now..:no wait they will just keep smoking in the cars anyway so sad.
@TransitEnthusiasts
@TransitEnthusiasts 5 ай бұрын
This is why I’m thankful to have trains in two married pairs here in Chicago
@cycloid2326
@cycloid2326 5 ай бұрын
Chicago could seriously benefit from open-gangway trains because the individual cars are so small, it would allow for a much more even spread of passengers through the whole train. Instead the CTA decides to order another slight iteration on cars from the 60’s
@TransitEnthusiasts
@TransitEnthusiasts 5 ай бұрын
@@cycloid2326 the only reason why our cars is short because our L system has such sharp turns which restricts the chances of having open gangway cars. Lots of cities like New York or Boston for example doesn’t have sharp turns as much as we do. The good part about is at least you’ll have enough breathing room and much more space then CTA’s.
@S-CB-SL-Animations
@S-CB-SL-Animations 5 ай бұрын
So basically the R211's gonna be the next Lemon Train after R179? Sure 😂😂😂
@maxlinder5262
@maxlinder5262 5 ай бұрын
They keep spending MONEY 🤑... But Not fixing the subway system .....& Keep raising the fare.... just my opinion
@francinesmith4018
@francinesmith4018 5 ай бұрын
I just went through training on this train and there are so many issues with it, you wouldn't believe it. There is a lot less seating, for one, so get used to that. With open gangways, you cannot escape from emotionally disturbed individuals, for another. The MTA did not *choose* to not run these trains on the express tracks, the FDNY told them point blank they CAN'T because of the issues they would have if something happened on that train on the express track. The audio sucks. The announcements echo and it ia difficult to understand people when they try to use the passenger emergency intercom. Those are SOME of the problems. On the plus side, every car has multiple surveillance cameras which are recording ALL THE TIME. These trains are a huge NO, IMO.
@alecsc
@alecsc 5 ай бұрын
That is a shame. Perhaps that is why the initial order only included 20 open gangway cars. IMO none of the issues you listed are good reasons to scratch the whole project. Countless other cities have been using trains like these with no issues for decades. NYC needs to get with the times.
@randylotito8045
@randylotito8045 5 ай бұрын
RIGHT HERE I LOVE ♥♥♥ THE BRAND NEW N.Y.C. M.T.A. MASS TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT R211T GANGWAY SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS THAT ARE INSTALLED WITH M.T.A. CAMERAS 📷 📷 📷 ON ALL 8 SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS ON THE R211T GANGWAY SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇 CARS.
@paulhall4572
@paulhall4572 5 ай бұрын
No one say nothing about the guy how jumped to his death on Friday on 42nd st. 1/26/2024 shit up about the MTA thrives
@TheNewNumberTw0
@TheNewNumberTw0 5 ай бұрын
The shit smell will be shared by the entire train.
@robroy6374
@robroy6374 5 ай бұрын
Yup
@cezarypruszkowski9523
@cezarypruszkowski9523 5 ай бұрын
So now when a hobo smokes a joint or takes a sh#@, the fragrance will travel all the way down. Very nice.
@garfieldandfriends1
@garfieldandfriends1 5 ай бұрын
Just American things 🤷‍♂
@JesusTorres-zu8wz
@JesusTorres-zu8wz 5 ай бұрын
Mta will always defend their bullshit ideas
@Mr.8CH
@Mr.8CH 5 ай бұрын
💯FACTS
@42luke93
@42luke93 5 ай бұрын
Any survey and people would be against this. If anything on the number lines they need it for the room but not letter lines.
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG 5 ай бұрын
I don't understand why anyone would not prefer open gangway trains? Feels a lot safer.
@S-CB-SL-Animations
@S-CB-SL-Animations 5 ай бұрын
W
@GobbiExists
@GobbiExists 5 ай бұрын
@@qwertyTRiGexactly and the rest of the world does it, and we need to catch up this isn’t a bad decision, the MTA is just playing a game of catchup its only bad bc some people decide to smoke, or some people panhandle a little too much. but then again, thats just my opinion
@alextgordon
@alextgordon 5 ай бұрын
lol america
@devilox9401
@devilox9401 5 ай бұрын
India has this since 1984 lol China have this in 1971
@joshuachandra6677
@joshuachandra6677 5 ай бұрын
How it's supposed to work and how it actually works are always two different things. Now when there's an issue like someone pulling the emergency brakes, it will take even longer to rectify...... Progress Bravo
@kentakiman_gmd
@kentakiman_gmd 5 ай бұрын
If that is the concern, it seems to be a Newyorkers behavior and education problem rather than a design flow.
@IISourAyyII
@IISourAyyII 5 ай бұрын
mta is so brainlesss
@S-CB-SL-Animations
@S-CB-SL-Animations 5 ай бұрын
More like lifeless
@toneriggz
@toneriggz 5 ай бұрын
This sounds like a train derailment waiting to happen.
@alistairlogie1815
@alistairlogie1815 5 ай бұрын
We've had open gangway trains on Lines 1 & 4 in Toronto since 2015 and haven't had any derailments on those trains. We have had derailments with older trains though.
@blpalv15
@blpalv15 5 ай бұрын
​@@alistairlogie1815the NYC subway system is older though. They claim they are fixing things, but nothing ever seems to get repaired. The system in NYC is over 100 years old
@alistairlogie1815
@alistairlogie1815 5 ай бұрын
@@blpalv15 The Toronto Subway isn’t exactly new, it’s 70 years old and not in good repair, and the London Underground is as old as the NYC subway and they both manage fully walk-through trains. I don’t see how this is a problem for New York when most cities with subways or metros have had open gangway trains for years, or even decades. In fact, New York had open gangway trains in the 1920s.
@RTCRBusProductions
@RTCRBusProductions 5 ай бұрын
​@@alistairlogie1815it's probably because of sharp curves
@kellynorvell5714
@kellynorvell5714 5 ай бұрын
With the new subway cars, how are passengers suppose to get out of the train if there's a fire......at least with most of the current trains, people can walk between cars and climb over the chains and get on the platform or walk on the sides of the tunnel (if there's an emergency where you MUST exit the train).
@cmnkb8
@cmnkb8 5 ай бұрын
kick out a side window and get out through there, that's how people escape smoke conditions in 75-foot cars (R46/68/68a) where the end doors are always locked
@jonahjameson272
@jonahjameson272 5 ай бұрын
Gonna be tough with old ppl on the train and say its completely dark @@cmnkb8
@juanastisaenz
@juanastisaenz 5 ай бұрын
This kind of open-gangway trains are the standard on subway systems around the world, their design is not a fire hazard
@blpalv15
@blpalv15 5 ай бұрын
​@@juanastisaenztheir design isn't, but some people like to start fires on the trains
@krane15
@krane15 5 ай бұрын
@@blpalv15 News flash, there is no defense against someone intentionally setting fires. Just like there's not defense against terrorism. You never know when or where its going to happen. Like it or not, thee are just some things in life you just have to accept.
@jorgenleno7286
@jorgenleno7286 5 ай бұрын
Not smart, doors on trains exist for a reason so unruly or loud people can make all the noise they want if they have the car to themself without disturbing the whole train. Comfort should be of top priority.
@andrewweitzman4006
@andrewweitzman4006 5 ай бұрын
Open gangway cars are an international standard. We've been using them up here in the Montreal Metro for several years. They have plenty of benefits: able to move within the train to get close to an exit, allows people to enter in the middle then move to either end where there's more space, far less claustrophobic than the old MR-73's, etc. Plus, if you have a bunch of loud asshats? Then you can move several cars away from them.
@averagejoe6031
@averagejoe6031 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever been on any metro that’s not NY? Literally every other subway has open gangways my gosh
@UnanimousDelivers
@UnanimousDelivers 5 ай бұрын
This is the most blatantly obvious "I meant to do that" lie I've heard in a long time. There was no plan to "only run it on local tracks" until the press reported that it wasn't an option. It's like going outside without checking the weather, getting rained on, and then saying "oh no, I left the apartment without an umbrella intentionally, coz I'm .. uh .. having my hair styled. Yeah. Yeah, and so this way they don't have to bother washing it first."
@Hunterbidenscrackrock
@Hunterbidenscrackrock 5 ай бұрын
Wow what a diverse news team you have! 😂
@djunknownnyc
@djunknownnyc 5 ай бұрын
Not good open subway car for criminals goi g from carvto car robbing people and fights and weed smoking all through the train will smell up every car gangs will troll the train and cause Kaos what a dumb idea and waste of money
@seanmetro3496
@seanmetro3496 5 ай бұрын
SMASH 🥰😍😘
@randylotito8045
@randylotito8045 5 ай бұрын
RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♂️ 🚔 INSIDE THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & $$$ PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS.
@DOS_SLASH
@DOS_SLASH 5 ай бұрын
Now smelly homeless people can stink up the entire train instead of just one car.
@DOS_SLASH
@DOS_SLASH 5 ай бұрын
I'm one of those smelly homeless people, by the way.
@rominn2184
@rominn2184 5 ай бұрын
Notice the greatly reduced seating so more people can be jammed in like sardines. Clever.
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews 5 ай бұрын
It is to increase capacity, adding more seat would just lead to less capacity and more trains. Pretty much just metro systems and lines have seating like these worldwide
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710 5 ай бұрын
You do realise that that just means that there is even more space, so less crowding
@inconspicuous7464
@inconspicuous7464 5 ай бұрын
Normally it would be an upgrade but it's New York, the city of endless dumb shit lol
@christopherstory2136
@christopherstory2136 5 ай бұрын
This is New York, not Paris or the tube and thier solutions don't work here, period. Yet another collosal waste of money. Extendi gbthe r160 order would have sufficed. (Commonality of parts, CBTC E÷etc...)
@PooPyShlooPyNYC
@PooPyShlooPyNYC 5 ай бұрын
Great , now the entire train is going to smell homeless people . Mta is focused on the wrong thing . How is this going to stop teenagers from subway surfing ?? Come on people wake up . The mta has the funds to make the train system safe , they’re just being cheap about it .
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710
@Gfynbcyiokbg8710 5 ай бұрын
No its not
@steveholzer4278
@steveholzer4278 5 ай бұрын
Bad idea and waste of money from the liberal MTA
@42luke93
@42luke93 5 ай бұрын
socialist system so dirty in rain and no1 cares. Yet we have to take it, I want to move out of this city one day!
@rohilkoovappara4927
@rohilkoovappara4927 5 ай бұрын
“Liberal”!!! What is that. The MTA is transportation. I can’t wait for the newborn baby R211 subway cars soon. Yeah!!!!!!
@alecsc
@alecsc 5 ай бұрын
The MTA is not itself a political entity. Either way, if conservatives had their way there would be no MTA. Public transportation and republican should never be used in the same sentence.
@relaxingsounds7782
@relaxingsounds7782 5 ай бұрын
You’re a waste of oxygen lol goofy
@incognito3743
@incognito3743 5 ай бұрын
Of course they’re going to say there’s not a flaw the cars already bought and paid for!! This is my fear about all this congestion pricing money…….. we’re talking about BILLIONS of dollars over the years, the MTA is going to just blow that money on all kinds of crap. Flawed trains, over budget construction projects, no show jobs, paying premium for parts. I wonder if they’ll budget money for cleaners to maintain the subways/ subway stations……. Yeah right. With all this money, they’re going to be making off of congestion pricing we should not see another fair hike for decades to come!!!! They say, all that money is for infrastructure, but they’re going to be making BIG money off of this new tax.
@randylotito8045
@randylotito8045 5 ай бұрын
RIGHT HERE I LOVE ♥♥♥ THE BRAND NEW N.Y.C. M.T.A. MASS TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT R211T GANGWAY SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS HEADING TO THE 472 SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇 STATION S IN 2024 # WE ♥♥♥ YOU CEO JANNO LIEBER ON N.Y.C. M.T.A. MASS TRANSIT 🚇🚇.
@asifniaziroughcityny
@asifniaziroughcityny 5 ай бұрын
Shame on us calling ourselves Super power .these things could be amazing 120 years ago but now even the poor countries where China has built railway systems are much better than this . Forget about the new super power China's railway the most advanced the most sophisticated one .their metro stations and trains are like dreaming . The million dollar question is all the trains all the buses are full at rush hours you can't find a standing space so where all that money goes ? No one is upgrading the infrastructure
@RazerTheDuck
@RazerTheDuck 5 ай бұрын
atleast we a have a good military
@istvanszabo3229
@istvanszabo3229 5 ай бұрын
​@RazerTheDuck 🤣 Over 50% of our tax $ pays for it❗️👈🤪
@devilox9401
@devilox9401 5 ай бұрын
India have this type of metro since 1984 China have in 1971
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