AR Pistol vs SBR

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Күн бұрын

Today we talk about some of the differences between an AR pistol and short barreled rifle as well as the pros and cons.
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@s0bedrag0n 2 ай бұрын

Abolish NFA and ATF should be a convienent store.

@davelpz3340 2 ай бұрын

Abolish gravity. You hear how dumb that sounds? 😂

@Nidhoggr333 2 ай бұрын

@@davelpz3340Boot licker 😊

@faroukm4148 2 ай бұрын

@@davelpz3340yeah because it has nothing to do what what he said lol

@NoneNone_ 2 ай бұрын

it would be but there are stoidi with 🔫 everywhere 🐦🧠

@AmirShafeek 2 ай бұрын

That's stupid I want the ATF to be there but they shouldn't have as much power as they do now the ATF is objectively good I don't want a bunch of random people running around with a bunch of random guns

@jbats7152 2 ай бұрын

Since you mentioned it, I got my suppressor tax stamp back in 43 hours, this month.

@dennishines9996 2 ай бұрын

A person may add a vertical fore grip to a firearm with an overall length of 26 or more inches without creating an AOW.

@SpaceRanger187 2 ай бұрын

I was going to rob the bank but glock switches are illegal.. What should I do..ridiculous

@civicsr2cool 2 ай бұрын

You missed some very important parts here.. an sbr is a downgrade in every single way from a pistol. In a lot of states Sbr’s are just plain illegal, you can’t travel with them, can’t carry them, can’t put them in a vehicle, etc.. but a pistol none of that applies and are free to basically do whatever.

@GunsNGames248 2 ай бұрын

They aren't illegal. You have to have a stamp.

@civicsr2cool 2 ай бұрын

@@GunsNGames248 they are definitely illegal in a lot of places still. There is no difference in the eye of the law between a machine gun and an sbr, you can probably guess which states still have them banned without even looking it up. There are no benefits in building an sbr vs a pistol.

@IMABEAST191 2 ай бұрын

I can tell you one thing for sure aside from the restrictions like having to ask permission to take them across state lines etc (which is super easy to if you are familiar with the atf forms system) after you build your first SBR it’s no going back!! Not only do they look 10x more badass but they feel super comfortable to the point where it feels awkward going to back to normal “16+ rifles. As far as accuracy goes anything I am able hit with my 16,18inch rifles I can do just as good or even better with my 10.3-10.5 SBR’s.

@ch3cksund3ad Күн бұрын

Seriously, I don't understand why so many people are so willing to pay the government 200$, to let them put different attachments on a weapon. Attachments that are typically far less than even 100$. And like you pointed out, it comes with many more restrictions. It's pretty stupid.

@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Ай бұрын

The rules on braces and stocks and suppressors are really senseless considering that most crime is done with handguns.

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

Agreed

@skydivingcomrade1648 Ай бұрын

Rifles used to be 18", but the most popular 22lr rifle was 16", so the ATF changed rifles to 16".

@Flashhideronly 2 ай бұрын

You’re doing a good job bro. Keep it up!

@mudgunner 2 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

@ofromda860 Ай бұрын

Great video, had to sub when I heard you're here in Az!

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@garykappes4654 2 ай бұрын

Very good information.

@TMFShooting Ай бұрын

Another Great Video 💯 Thank you 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@AZCactusTac 2 ай бұрын

I like a full stock so i usually go with SBR. It takes a very short amount of time for approval these days.

@44Mag Ай бұрын

One disadvantage to an SBR is you have to have pre-approval from the ATF to take the gun out of state, whereas a pistol with a brace is treated just like your sidearm as far as the law is concerned. One disadvantage (for me) of a pistol with a brace is that in my state, if you carry a pistol, it must be in either a shoulder holster or in a hip holster. This means the pistol would have to be kept in a backpack or something. An SBR though, can be carried openly with no worries, as long as you are not carrying it in a "threatening manor"

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

I don’t mind having both sbrs and pistols so I have options. Arizona is pretty relaxed on carry laws which is nice

@dannyduke4807 Ай бұрын

Here's a question I cannot seem to get answer for. Can I legally install a scope or magnifier to an AR pistol? I heard part of the pistol brace rule the ATF attempted to make also mentioned scopes and other optics with limited eye relief classifying as an SBR but I haven't heard if that was thrown out with the brace ban or not.

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

Yes, you can have any optic you want on an AR pistol

@COMMANDERHAWK22 2 ай бұрын

can you switch out your rifle upper and put a pistol upper with a brace on a rifle lower ?

@shadowsteel11 2 ай бұрын

If you bought the rifle as a rifle you cannot covert it to a pistol. If you bought an AR pistol and converted to a rifle, you can switch it back to its original form as an AR pistol

@saltpro5603 2 күн бұрын

No hesitation in putting the can on the scar? Heard they won't honor warranty if you do that 🤔

@KN-cool 2 ай бұрын

In my state you can have a loaded pistol in your car but not a loaded rifle.

@ShaneHarmon140 2 ай бұрын

If I’m not mistaken, it is illegal to transport SBRs across state lines without permission from the ATF whether SBRs are legal in that state or not. In the flip side. I’m pretty sure AR pistols are regulated the same as handguns when going from state to state. State and local laws will determine if they are legal or not.

@imriggedup1888 2 ай бұрын

Can I put a pistol stock on a registered SBR so I can travel to a neighboring state without having to ask for permission? …asking for a friend!!

@ShaneHarmon140 2 ай бұрын

@@imriggedup1888 😂😂😂I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work like that.

@IMABEAST191 2 ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@imriggedup1888no sir that is illegal you have to ask permission. The problem lies in the serial number.

@sincere0025 2 ай бұрын

@@imriggedup1888😂😂😂😅😅😅. We have the same friend

@stephanarizona9094 2 ай бұрын

I keep every pistols but once I got into suppressors, they already have me on a watch list, so I went ahead and taxed stamped all my firearms to SBR's.

@dnalevelc144 Ай бұрын

Soo, can one get an AOW tax stamp for a vertical foregrip on an AR pistol?

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

Yes you could

@yourface3154 Ай бұрын

So if you buy the 10.5" complete upper "pistol" kit from PSA, how would it be an SBR?

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

If you go the SBR route I would do it on a higher end lower like a bcm

@yourface3154 Ай бұрын

@@mudgunner I'm not wanting to pay the tax stamp for an sbr, just have a pistol.

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

Then you would just put a brace on the lower, not a stock

@yourface3154 Ай бұрын

@@mudgunner So odd. Appreciate the help.

@chickennuggets2929 2 ай бұрын

how do you "notify" the ATF if you want to change calibers on your SBR? what makes it official, are they going to send me some paperwork that i need to keep a copy of? How exactly does this work?

@civicsr2cool 2 ай бұрын

You have to send them a physical letter saying you’re changing the caliber/oal etc

@chickennuggets2929 2 ай бұрын

@@civicsr2cool but how does it become official, like do they send me a different stamp ? (a paper with the updated caliber) , in a court of law, I can say I sent them a letter but what evidence would i have? I could send it certified letter , but even that wouldn't be sufficient.

@turnugin5645 2 ай бұрын

It’s all a joke

@justinrichardson4456 2 ай бұрын

How about just shutting the hell up and doing what you want?

@robinikeman9360 Ай бұрын

@@chickennuggets2929 it should be OK as long as the caliber change isn't permanent.

@chiwalker7325 16 күн бұрын

👍🏾

@Ultrarmx 2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t it make it illegal if you’re shooting with a pistol AR and place the brace to your shoulder?

@civicsr2cool 2 ай бұрын

@hawksnake3372 2 ай бұрын

It used to. the ATF put out several different opinion letters over the course or several years that flip flopped on that but it ended up landing on the decision that they cant tell you how to hold it.

@user-hr7im6fn7j 2 ай бұрын

What you meant to say is the vertical grip cannot be 90° but that's all right not everybody knows the NFA laws

@johnneill5960 2 ай бұрын

You can have a vertical grip on a pistol if you meet the overall length requirement. For example my AR pistol has a 12.5 barrel & I used a rifle length buffer tube to get to a legal overall length in order to have a vertical foregrip .

@256NATO 2 ай бұрын

The barrel has to be 16 inches not the length of rifle

@256NATO 2 ай бұрын

If you have a 12 inch barrel and say a 4 inch flash hider for example for 16 inch then your good

@demon_milk_man8686 2 ай бұрын

AOW section of classification is not something a lot of people including LEO acknowledge or know about in general

@256NATO 2 ай бұрын

@demon_milk_man8686 I agree but the fudds at my local range will ask for tax stamps its insane

@johnneill5960 2 ай бұрын

@@256NATO as long as the overall length of the “pistol “ is 26 inches which on a 12.5 in barrel WITH a rifle length buffer tube can easily be reached with practically any muzzle device than the “ pistol “ can have a vertical foregrip legally . Ask DR google it pops right up .

@santanagamingcinema 2 ай бұрын

Hey, Im having a hard time with this. How do you grip around your Scar 16's handguard and activate your peq15 at the same time? I can do it but its very tiring, especially in classes.

@pancho4575 2 ай бұрын

Do you have a tape switch for it? If not it will make it easier

@demon_milk_man8686 2 ай бұрын

Probably just a tape switch on the side

@civicsr2cool 2 ай бұрын

In the Marines we put the peq on the right side of the handguard for this reason, we tilt rifle to the left to get laser above bore and shoot like that when active aiming.

@ino592002 2 ай бұрын

Your comments have been turned off on your latest vids. Why?

@mudgunner 2 ай бұрын

Because KZfaq is censoring it for no reason. I keep turning the comments back on but they turn it off again shortly after. Thank you for watching the videos!

@ino592002 2 ай бұрын

@mudgunner I seen the same thing on some other content creators vids as well. Well I will just have to use this TTP to give feedback on your work.

@scottbowlin9374 2 ай бұрын

Can ypu put a lpvo on a ar pistol

@-Seager 2 ай бұрын

Yes, that’s not illegal or regulated. Should you? Is a completely other question though.

@scottbowlin9374 2 ай бұрын

@@-Seager why shouldn't you

@demon_milk_man8686 2 ай бұрын

Only argument i could see is it’s a shorter barrel length but that doesn’t necessarily mean you shouldn’t add a Lpvo. A lot of people have red dot, holographics, prisms, and Lpvos on their ar pistols. Totally up to you and how you want to rock your build

@-Seager 2 ай бұрын

@@scottbowlin9374 Yeah I agree with what the other commenter said. However, shorter length ARs don’t push the full potential of a LPVO and some LPVO/Magnified optics are optimized around 14.5” barrels. But honestly, it’s completely up to you. I didn’t necessarily mean you “shouldn’t” put a LPVO on an AR pistol. It’s more of a question of: “do I need/want a LPVO?” or “what optic is best for my AR pistol and my environment?”

@carbonfibercrypto2919 Ай бұрын

2 days for a form 1 - April 2024

@mudgunner Ай бұрын

That’s awesome!

@imriggedup1888 2 ай бұрын

Can I put a pistol stock on a registered SBR so I can travel to a neighboring state without having to ask for permission? …asking for a friend!!

@demon_milk_man8686 2 ай бұрын

I believe Sage Dynamics covers this topic in one of his videos and he is ex LEO. I believe you can

@civicsr2cool 2 ай бұрын

That’s the dumbest way to try do it, interstate travel with an sbr is still regulated as an sbr. Once a firearm is an sbr, it is an sbr for the rest of its life it can never go back. Also, a pistol can become a rifle and back to a pistol, a rifle can never become a pistol. Just buy a pistol lower.