Multi-Scale Bass Shooutout - Dingwall vs. Spector vs. Ibanez

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Ish Guitars

Ish Guitars

3 жыл бұрын

We take a look at some of the hottest fanned fret basses on the market today.
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*CORRECTION* I accidently said the Dingwall has a 1 piece neck, its actually a 5 piece neck - 3 pieces in the neck section with 2 extra in the headstock to get the extra headstock width.
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@robertherrick6703
@robertherrick6703 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Spector the most but it's hard to fairly compare these basses without messing around with their EQs.
@justsomerandomguyman
@justsomerandomguyman 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, the Ibanez is EQ'd pretty badly here and is capable of sounding much better.
@peteluna4968
@peteluna4968 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomerandomguyman that’s what I was thinking.
@andesneko
@andesneko 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, EHB means "Ergonomic Headless Bass".
@bassplayer3348
@bassplayer3348 3 жыл бұрын
Means electric Headless bass
@andesneko
@andesneko 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassplayer3348 No, that is what the video says but they made a mistake.
@justinc246
@justinc246 3 жыл бұрын
As a Dingwall owner (NG2) from a few years back I'm a little biased but I have to say I'm really impressed by the other two basses here. Spector really put out a great MS option right out of the gate and the EHB hits of a lot of boxes for me in terms of practicality. I don't have personal experience with the Spector or EHB but given the descriptions I'd the say: The Dingwall is for those who want the signature Dingwall tone. The tone is clear, clean, with great mids without losing low end or being too shrill. Dingwall also really seemed like it was designed from the ground up as a multiscale bass as compared to Spector. The NG I got was pretty much perfect out of the box and the quality is on par with any bass in its price point (granted I got it before the price increase). My experience with the balance is exactly what is shown here as well. Sits really nicely standing or sitting and the angle is what I've come to expect with a bass. Dingwall is my "tone machine that just works" option IMO The Spector is a great option if you want that long 37 inch low B for drop tuning but also want other specs that seem a bit more premium (that top, neck-through, etc). I definitely like that top and the wenge used in the neck. The tone is awesome and versatile as well. Overall great value bass if you're looking for a 37-34 option. Spector seems to be my "fancy new kid on the block" choice (really impressed) The Ibanez seems like a very practical looking option if you're not intending to drop tune it that far. It definitely has a good tone that I really dig and the flexible pre-amp option with mid-sweep is sweet. Like the Dingwall it definitely looks like it was designed as its own unique thing from the ground up, which really connects with me (it's probably my favorite looking headless bass thus far). Something not often mentioned about the Ibanez EHB series that's worth noting is the fact it takes regular strings as compared to the other two bases (which need strings that fit the 37 inch scale length). It seems like it'd be a bit cheaper / easier to stock up strings for the Ibanez than the other two basses. The Ibanez is the "practical" choice to me. Overall I think you can't go wrong with any one of these basses.
@57precision
@57precision 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with you about the Ibanez, Justin. It has all the string versatility, you could even put LaBellas on it if you're crazy. The other thing that gets commonly overlooked is its extreme light weight, 7.5 lbs for a 5 string is just phenomenal.
@mikkoerkkila2003
@mikkoerkkila2003 Ай бұрын
As a fellow Dingwall owner (NG3) who has also been a longtime Spector owner, I want that Spector so bad it HURTS. Just look at it. Its gorgeous. And sounds fantastic. And my neckthrough Spector doesn't feel as heavy as you'd think, so that's not a huge turnoff for me. I have chronic neck pain so I play almost exclusively sitting down anyways.
@mjmason75
@mjmason75 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I'll be surprised if your channel doesn't continue to grown if you keep making videos like this. I love how practical your reviews where. Great stuff!
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, we'll definitely be doing more for sure!
@joshuahernandez6945
@joshuahernandez6945 3 жыл бұрын
I’d prefer a 35 to 32 fan, but that Spector sounded way better than the other two
@francoishtzl157
@francoishtzl157 Жыл бұрын
Different, super scoop and clanky to me
@francoishtzl157
@francoishtzl157 11 ай бұрын
@@godzoo18 the spector has that. The Dingwall and Ibanez I don't think so, the Dingwall has solid bass and sweet midrange and more agressive upper mids maybe. But sound fuller than a Spector to me. I really like the P and J pickup on my Charvel Frank Bello at the moment, as much as I like my NG3 Dingwall
@phipschi4255
@phipschi4255 27 күн бұрын
the spector is going to completly dissapear in the mix with those mids.
@MeatballCereal
@MeatballCereal 3 жыл бұрын
Spector, Dingwall, Ibanez. I was surprised at how much the Ibanez sounds like the Dingwall here, but it sounds like the Dingwall muffled by a dozen thick blankets.
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
A dozen thick blankets 😂 I agree the Ibanez sounds GOOD but for some reason needs a huge amount of level match/EQ-ing. We were trying to do a true apples to apples comparison so we didn't want to mess with it otherwise.
@brianwalton1060
@brianwalton1060 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishguitars I bought an Ibanez EHB1500 (4 string and not multiscale). It looked great, sounded great, and like you showed was wonderfully balanced and lightweight. Sadly it had terrible fret sprout. It was a huge turn off and I returned it. I just ordered a Spector NS Dimension 4 string. I have never owned anything but Ibanez. I'm hoping I will love it! Thanks for this video. Great shootout (except for that tiebreaker!)
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianwalton1060 lol we had to get creative for the tie breaker 😂 Good call on the Dimension! Ibanez are great but honestly most of them we receive have fret sprout from the factory. We clean them up so they ship with our "Ish" quality, we would never send someone a brand new guitar with fret sprout no matter what brand
@brianwalton1060
@brianwalton1060 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishguitars I should have bought that Ibanez from Ish! I'm sure I'd still have it. I recently bought an '85 Ibanez Axstar headless. I loved it so much I thought I'd try the modern one to go with it. Anyway we'll see how this Spector looks when it arrives. I have family in Oswego. I should make it an appointment to visit Ish next time I'm up that way!
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianwalton1060 no way!! My grandpa is from Oswego, we are named from his nickname for me, "Ish Ka Bibble". Small world.
@EnergyChasms
@EnergyChasms 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool, you guys are a lot of fun. I'd say Ibanez, Spector, then Dingwall. I have a similar Ibanez, and while out of the gate, it's a little muddy, with some diligent EQing on both the bass, and my amp, it sounds beautiful.
@mjmason75
@mjmason75 3 жыл бұрын
Prices for these models are Ibanez $1,700, Spector $2,100, & Dingwall $2,450. I'll take any of them, but for the price, I think I'd select the Ibanez. I like the headless design that uses standard strings (rather than double ball) and the lighter weight of it. I think it's the best bang for the money, but all 3 basses seem great.
@ikestoddard2458
@ikestoddard2458 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. My own issues boil down to Spector vs Dingwall. I would edge my choice to Spector for the neck-through.
@Thurgor_Supreme
@Thurgor_Supreme 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about sold on the Spector until I saw that neck dive. Holy moly
@Turak_64
@Turak_64 3 жыл бұрын
That's a deal breaker for me, I can't stand any neck dive at all. I've got a Dingwall D Bird and that has absolutely none.
@elansleazebaganno
@elansleazebaganno 3 жыл бұрын
Man am I the only one who could not care less about neck dive?
@Turak_64
@Turak_64 3 жыл бұрын
@@elansleazebaganno probably. How often do you play standing up? For me, I just find it incredibly uncomfortable when the bass isn't balanced correctly. I'm not overly fussy about a lot of things, but that is definitely something I can put up with. I've sold basses ice really likes because of it.
@elansleazebaganno
@elansleazebaganno 3 жыл бұрын
@@Turak_64 All the time. I have an Ibanez 5-string that's got some neck dive but really I don't see why it's such an issue for people
@Turak_64
@Turak_64 3 жыл бұрын
@@elansleazebaganno that's cool, crack on. I just prefer not to fight the balance of the bass.
@mikkoerkkila2003
@mikkoerkkila2003 Ай бұрын
Great video, this helped convince me to buy a Dingwall NG3 from Ish Guitars a few months ago- and its perfect! Thanks guys!
@LaziestBassist
@LaziestBassist Жыл бұрын
I recently grabbed an Ibanez BTB605MS based on the specs that I read online and the color, I figured it was the closest thing I could get to a Dingwall. Dudes, that bass has blown away my expectations! I refuse to pay anything over $1300 for any instrument that came from overseas such as China, Indonesia, Korea etc... Not because I believe that there is a lack of quality control, but because the resale value on these instruments is much lower... This is a factor I think many reviewers miss. Otherwise this was a great video and very informative, thank you!
@JeffGrahamPhotography
@JeffGrahamPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! It is incorrectly stated that the Dingwall Combustion/NG2/NG3 has a single piece neck. It is a 5 piece maple neck per the company website.
@AlexhPDX
@AlexhPDX 3 жыл бұрын
Love the new Spectors but it's hard to bite when for a few hundred more you could have a Euro 5LX... would be a lot more tempting if they were in the $1500 range
@BigSheaux
@BigSheaux 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m leaning towards the Spector myself
@StudioBrock1337
@StudioBrock1337 3 жыл бұрын
What Dingwall could also do is use a push-pull blend pot that controls the outter pickups. Push to turn them on, pull to turn them off, and then blend em. Then use the volume pot as a push-pull to turn on and off the middle pickup. That gives you the full range of sounds between the outter pickups and the ability to add the middle wherever and you don't need a blade switch. Another counter to the blade switch is put on/off buttons on the treble side of each pickup. You don't get blending or discrete volume control but you could theoretically have any number of pickups done like this all hooked up to a master volume and master tone/EQ stack. Real simple on the knobs.
@mishterpreshident
@mishterpreshident 3 жыл бұрын
My son bought the Ibanez (the Seafoam Green version), and I'm waiting for my Spector NS5 (same color you got there) to arrive. Another 2 weeks to wait, but I hear some are waiting out till June for theirs. I've had a chance to play my son's Ibanez, and it's REALLY good. The balance is great, and it's incredibly light. Weirdly "boomy" though -- I had to roll almost all the bass off my Peavey Max 300 AND the Ibanez bass to get a nice tight sound.
@57precision
@57precision 3 жыл бұрын
The seafoam green version has Bartolini pups, which are just inferior to the Nordstrand Big Splits. If you watch a comparison, it sounds like you put a blanket over your cab when playing a 1005MS.
@mishterpreshident
@mishterpreshident 3 жыл бұрын
@@57precision Agreed. I finally got my NS5, and WOW, can I tell the difference between the Bartolini's and the Fishman's. LOL. WHAT a difference. My NS sounds godlike in all configs, while I really have to work to get the tone I want from the 1005MS.
@the_bassiah
@the_bassiah 6 ай бұрын
this is the type of video that REALLY makes me want to try these basses in person to know for sure... but no music stores stock these around me!
@LeeJoRo
@LeeJoRo 3 жыл бұрын
Tried a Dingwall, it was effortless to play but but the scale length was the only thing I didn't like (feather touch and high output), I have a Spector Euro 5 LX from around 2005, it's a tank. I can't stop looking at the EHB1506MS, really want to try one out
@steverolfeca
@steverolfeca 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, the best mod you can order for the Dingwall, is the Lee Sklar switch. The switch goes from fattest (both pickups in series on 2-pickup models) to brightest (bridge solo'd) in logical order. No more wondering about combinations- just dial up more beef or less, as conditions require...
@scarysharkface
@scarysharkface Жыл бұрын
I recently looked at all three of these instruments, specifically not intending to buy the Ibanez. After spending some time with each of them, I bought the 6-string version of the Ibanez. It's by far the most comfortable to play, for me, has zero neck dive and the tone circuitry is by far the most flexible. An important consideration for me was also that the shorter G and C strings on the Ibanez are much less twangy than longer scale small strings tend to be. The back carving on the Ibanez is more comfortable as well. The shiny finish on the Spector, though, is kind of to die for.
@StudioBrock1337
@StudioBrock1337 3 жыл бұрын
I want the Spector with the Ibanez paint job. I love all these though.
@georgyj111111
@georgyj111111 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Spector sound.
@markusaurelius8807
@markusaurelius8807 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very useful comparison! However, why not include ESP LTD B-1005 37-34" multiscale bass, as it definitely belongs here even more than shorter headless Ibanez? Also, Brice Defiant multiscale 37-34" mahogany neck through - same category?
@Thurgor_Supreme
@Thurgor_Supreme 3 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question about ESP and they gave me a hacky answer "cause they suck". Literally the same pickups as the Ibanez, better pre-amp/EQ, has a proper multiscale length, and has Gotoh hardware.
@benjaminhughes2701
@benjaminhughes2701 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Dingwall and 1505MS with a Spector on the way. Love my multi scale basses. The Ibanez multi scale doesn’t have as much an impact as the Dingwall but, also, was easier to adjust to, especially chording in the upper registers. Fit and finish on the Dingwall is also better. I play the Ibanez more because it’s lightweight and easy to play and cops a reasonable jazz vibe. I think the Dingwall neck profile feels better to me, a bit chunkier. I’m stoked to get my hands on the Spector.
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree I think for most "normal" bassists the Ibanez is an easy transition
@benjaminhughes2701
@benjaminhughes2701 3 жыл бұрын
Also your videos are kickass. You recently cost me 2K ;)
@johangericke1492
@johangericke1492 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminhughes2701 do you mind giving a 3 month later update on how you feel about the three multiscale basses? I'm shopping between the three at the moment, and unfortunately I can't get my hands on any of the three for testing purposes.
@benjaminhughes2701
@benjaminhughes2701 3 жыл бұрын
@@johangericke1492 . I decided to cancel my preorder for the Dimension and bought a new guitar and amp instead. From what I gather there have been some QC issues with the angle of the pickup on the 5 strings not capturing the Low B. I can’t speak to the Spector but the Ibanez is lightweight, easy to play and the multi scale doesn’t really take any adjustment . The NG3 is heavier , the neck, to me , feels faster and more substantial and the reach in the first couple positions can take a bit of getting used to. The even-ness on the Dingwall is phenomenal. The Ibanez has kind of a “super jazz bass” vibe and the Dingwall sounds like a Dingwall.
@jdmarino
@jdmarino 3 жыл бұрын
Based on sound alone, from favorite to least: Dingwall, Spector, Ibanez.
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 2 жыл бұрын
Heads Up! We are releasing our own custom run in July 2022 of white painted Dimensions with EMG 40DC pickups, a Darkglass preamp, and an all maple body with rosewood fingerboard. We'll be posting more info on our KZfaq channel as well as our other social media so stay tuned!
@joebags3322
@joebags3322 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting the contour of the back of the Ibanez. This seriously makes my decision harder.
@yuliyankolev7672
@yuliyankolev7672 10 ай бұрын
The clarity of this Spector!
@graphicsociety1
@graphicsociety1 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video! Are you using any effects like compressor?
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 7 ай бұрын
No effects at all!
@WyattLite-n-inn
@WyattLite-n-inn 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video but remember the Ibanez is still short enough to accommodate a wider variety of strings, tape wound , flat wound , half round etc
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
Good point! Didn't think of that
@Matman3124
@Matman3124 8 ай бұрын
The Ibanez has my heart, although I'm incredibly biased as I own one lol. The 35-33 multiscale is a nice middle ground between the larger Dingwall/Spector multiscale and a standard 34" bass. The shorter scale on the high strings feels quite nice as someone with smaller hands, and all the strings have a nice balanced amount of tension. Mine's strung with D'Addario Pro Steels (130-105-85-65-45) and tuned down a half step.
@mokotoko6004
@mokotoko6004 3 жыл бұрын
In this video i liked the tone of the spector. But with eqing of any of these basses will sound great .plus tone really comes from the hands. You can get a crappy bass to sound great with a talented player and get a great bass to sound less apealing with a begginer player.
@ramiromillanfraile8427
@ramiromillanfraile8427 Жыл бұрын
Omg the spector sounds amazing
@bassnsax
@bassnsax 2 жыл бұрын
I came in to this thinking I'd like the Ibanez the best (I really love a warm, vintage sounding bass, and when you put the EHB in passive mode, the treble control then works as a passive tone control!). I don't think that changed, BUT I have more respect for the other 2. The Spector looks amazing (I'm not entirely sold on the electronics, but they're aimed at a different audience than myself), and I never was a fan of the sound of Dingwall NG2's or NG3's (again, aimed at a different audience than myself) but the Combustion sounded fantastic and much closer to my kind of sound!
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 2 жыл бұрын
we may or may not be releasing our own run of spector dimensions with different electronics soon! 😉. Check our IG for details.
@Stick3x
@Stick3x 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the spector did it for me all around.
@badger4361
@badger4361 3 жыл бұрын
I liked The Spector D(deep and warm) Dingwall (nice deep and 'attacky') BOTH equally but for THESE different reasons. The Ibanez sounded a bit flat to me, maybe better with a preamp pedal but it was not near the other two imho. I have played an Ibanez before and whilst I thought it was a good bass, it didn't have enough mass and i found it a bit weedy as a result.
@kneejo-tube
@kneejo-tube Жыл бұрын
The Dingwall sounded like a combination of the best of the other 2
@sickinthahead6557
@sickinthahead6557 Жыл бұрын
I’m getting a Dingwall Combustion 5 next month, but I do plan on a Spector and if I decide I want a headless it will be the Ibanez. 🤘🏻
@the1khronohs40
@the1khronohs40 4 ай бұрын
Sound wise the Spector wins for me. Dingwall has a certain something in the tone that I really like, but I don’t quite know what. I’ve played a lot of Ibanezes, and wholeheartedly recommend people check them out, especially on a tight budget. Bang for buck, they just win. But, however, my pick out of these three, is definitely the Spector. Looks, sound, quality, comfort… I just wish it had the Ibanez preamp configuration. The only minus for Dingwall though, is that they are just everywhere now. Minus for Ibanez is, I’m not a headless fan. Also the pickups seem a bit dull. (Preamp saves them a bit though)
@b-earn4739
@b-earn4739 3 жыл бұрын
Spector has so much character
@b-earn4739
@b-earn4739 3 жыл бұрын
@̇ ̇ ̇ ̇ never seen a fender player sounds like a spector because he is a good one
@danielelise7348
@danielelise7348 2 жыл бұрын
The Dingwall is killer, that's why I own one,mine is a 6string though 🎸🎶🎵🎼🤘
@kuyaferds8715
@kuyaferds8715 2 жыл бұрын
That multiscale spector seats well with my tone taste
@canadianbassist-garrettont7368
@canadianbassist-garrettont7368 Жыл бұрын
So curious between the ibanez and the Dingwall what was the thinner neck of the two? I have a Dingwall currently
@stefbonte557
@stefbonte557 3 жыл бұрын
I was suprised to hear you guys rave on the astonishing QC of Dingwall as I have really another experience. Because Dingwall is so difficult to find in stores (at least in Europe) you go searching for review video's. Tempted by the blazing reviews I bought a Dbird when it was still available. To my big surprise, after playing for about an hour, the E string all of sudden went out of tune. The bridge saddle dropped (causing the string to imprint the windings on the pickup, no fun for a brand new bass!). So then you go talking to their tech department (and dealer etc..., too much energy spent on a new bass) they shipped me industry loctite which I had to apply on the saddle. Once done on the E, not bothering the other string, I had the same issues on the others strings as well. So for a brand that says it wants to raise the hairs on your back, I was quite disappointed. It has left my collection again, despite I much loved the bodyshape. Furthermore, nobody talks about the pick-ups in the middle of the body, but to me this a real nuissance when you dig hard with a pick. Don't bother on saying that you need to play with fingers, I play both and the band I bought it for, favours a picksound.
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
Totally understand the frustration, but missing loctite is about the BEST quality issue you can have, hahah. Easy fix. (Actually I remember when that happened, they had a bad batch of loctite, we had the same issue). On the flip side about every Ibanez we receive under $1200 we have to file the fret ends on...
@stefbonte557
@stefbonte557 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishguitars I can relate to that. Off course, not everybody works in a guitarshop and is familiar with working on instruments rather than playing it. But, indeed it was quite easy to fix. I would expect any bass over $1000 should be fine right out of the box. Reading your reply, it is something to hope for but reality proves otherwise. By the way, the Dingwall bridge saddles (on the imports) are quite sharp. With a pick you easily hit the D and G saddles with your hand, it was not that comfortable. Anyhow, I love their designs. I guess I am spoiled playing from import Lakland to Alembic and Euro Spectors to Mayones. I like your video's, keep 'm coming.
@justinviveiros7375
@justinviveiros7375 2 жыл бұрын
I own the 1506 and LOVE it. I have played dingwall and they are great. I own a music man as well. The 1506 just sounds dope as hell in a mix. Low gain or high.
@justtheotherdave
@justtheotherdave 7 ай бұрын
What volume setting and pickup selection was used for each? Bridge, neck, both, series, parallel, etc. Volume knobs tend to impart EQ (e.g. if I roll the volume from 100% to 80% on my P-bass it cuts the highs, and can be stacked with the tone knob for maximum thump). Additionally, the basses didn't have the same volume, so if this was all at 100% it would indicate different output levels (probably different if you run the preamp at 9V vs 18V as well, and some effects pedals that support both voltages sound much better at 18V so I imagine preamps are the same).
@davidpost4216
@davidpost4216 3 жыл бұрын
I own the Ibanez EHB1005MS which is almost the same as the EHB1505MS except for Bartolini pickups instead of Nordstrands. I was surprised that your EHB1505MS didn’t sound very good in your video. I think my EHB1005MS sounds much better. What strings are you using on the EHB? How old are they?
@djentcommunion2422
@djentcommunion2422 3 жыл бұрын
i think EHB basses have defect. Some of them sound really good and some don't sound fuller
@justsomerandomguyman
@justsomerandomguyman 2 жыл бұрын
You really could have done a way better job setting the EQ on the Ibanez. You made it sound quite bad in comparison here by not adjusting level and EQ, but there are plenty of other videos on KZfaq where they sound really good.
@Crushin123
@Crushin123 3 жыл бұрын
Dingwall, Spector then Ibanez (tone-wise) - I am not a fan of Spector ergo's - Ibanez body shape is just odd. (dig the headless tho)
@michaelanthony9068
@michaelanthony9068 2 жыл бұрын
Fun. Y’all know that the reason for the shape of the back of the Ibanez (you said you didn’t understand) is to make the point of contact of the forearm to the body comfortable. It is.
@mr_tw
@mr_tw 2 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoyed this video! Have used a StingRay since the 90s, and added key bass in the last few. Switching frequently between the two nowadays means neck dive is a big factor for me, so I’ve just bought an Ibanez - so much relief for my ageing bones since I’m doing up to 3 hours a night… but the other two also look/sound like really nice pieces of work!
@spencehoward320
@spencehoward320 4 ай бұрын
Also I loved my dingwall and I love my msbtb Ibanez but sometime I feel like the shorter scale should be nice for some fast techy stuff
@Zevonfan524
@Zevonfan524 Жыл бұрын
The one I liked the most flat was the Ibanez. It had more growl to it. But I think the Dingwall would be far more craftable.
@kubdar8346
@kubdar8346 3 жыл бұрын
I love Spector sound
@mwilesbass
@mwilesbass 2 жыл бұрын
I have an EHB, and I want to point out that it becomes a real contender when you swap the stock preamp out for a Nordstrand or similar. The Ibanez preamps just don’t stand a chance against the industry leaders. I also replaced my blend with a Dingwall-style rotary switch to include a series option. It is currently setup for GCGCF tuning and killing it. It’s also worth mentioning that it fits in a lot of guitar size cases and bags. To my ears, it sounds like the Ibanez was demo’d in passive mode with the tone knob in the center. The treble pot doubles as a tone in passive mode, so unless you turn it past the center notch, the tone is at 50%. Also, the Nordstrands in the Ibanez are indeed real. I have several other sets of Nordys in other basses that I can compare them to, and I’ve also had my custom Nordy orders wait in line for months while the Nordstrand shop was completing batches for Ibanez.
@Twilightzoneelectronics
@Twilightzoneelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any issues with note clarity tuning it to G? I just bought this bass, but having never tried it I am worried that the 35-33 scale may be not long enough if i wanted to tune it to G# -E
@mwilesbass
@mwilesbass 2 жыл бұрын
@@Twilightzoneelectronics send me your email address and I can send you a recording. I'm using D'addarion Pro Steel 145-120-90-70-40 for the tuning.
@glitched100
@glitched100 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use the dingwall rotary switch with the stock preamp?
@glitched100
@glitched100 2 жыл бұрын
I have one I'm trying to use with the stock pre amp and either I'm too stupid to solder the rotary knob to the volume pot correctly, have the connections on the rotary knob wrong. How did you go about wiring the rotary switch to the volume pot? The rotary switch only have a single pad for output and the volume pot looks like it has a hardwired 2 pin jst connector that connect to the stock volume pots pcb.
@mwilesbass
@mwilesbass 2 жыл бұрын
@@glitched100 I had my tech do it. There are many rotary switches on the market too - he had to find one small enough to fit in the cavity. It can definitely be done with the stock preamp though.
@henkehakansson2004
@henkehakansson2004 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks. But seriously, comparing any different scaled basses is kind of moot. The main advantage of a fanned fret bass with HEADLESS is that - which you seriously forgot to mention, and it's paramount for most people - is that most strings will fit Ibanez without even the slightest hassle. You do not have to hunt down the Extra Long Scale strings like you have to for Dingwall and Spector. There are not that many manufacturers that makes strings will fit a low B at 37". They are obviously not in the same price range either. I mean the special string sets. On any headless, the strings ends behind the zero fret, and or nut, and thus doesn't need to be any longer at all. On a regular 34" scale there's ample amount of excess slack around the wraps of the tuner posts. Now, the balance test should NOT be carried out with standing with a strap on. You should sit down without a strap and just let go of the bass and see if it stays right in the middle and not dive anyway, neither neck nor body dive. Body dive is just as bad. If you stand up, with a strap on, the only thing you should perform is a tiny jump up in the air and check where the strap and neck ends when landing again. It should stay put. Which it does on the headless. However, if the headless had a 37" inch scale at the B-string like the others did, the neck diving MIGHT show up, giving the neck would be longer.
@Zontar-xt6ql
@Zontar-xt6ql 3 жыл бұрын
Spector - Dingwall - Ibanez.......hard not to love that Spector !
@MeenGMeenie
@MeenGMeenie 3 жыл бұрын
Dingwall sounded the best to me, I wasn’t a fan of the noise the Spector made and the Ibanez sounded like it was trying to do what the Dingwall does but wasn’t really getting there. I think tbh if you took any one of these home you’d not spend a second thinking about the other two once the decision had been made. They all seem like good guitars that would be a pleasure to live with.
@Wombatmetal
@Wombatmetal 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to own a neck through Spector. But in the real world, I've got an Ibanez SRMS805. I actually prefer it over the headless.
@wolfster2287
@wolfster2287 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Dean, I’m glad I saw your post. I have been looking at the SRMS805 and I am about to pull the trigger on it. It’s the deep twilight one (At least until now SRMS805 was the guitar I was going to get before I heard the Spector in this video. The Spector sounds really nice). Anyway, I have never played a multiscale bass, but I have been playing bass for about 25 years. I’m just wondering if it will be a difficult switch and if I will actually like it better than the regular basses. Any suggestions? Thank you
@Wombatmetal
@Wombatmetal 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfster2287 It's completely natural to play, took me just a couple minutes to adjust. It was a nonissue for me. Anticlimatic even. I expected to work at it but it just fell into place. Whrn you look down at the neck, the frets look parallel.
@wolfster2287
@wolfster2287 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wombatmetal Great, thank you for the info.
@samuelviden7412
@samuelviden7412 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine having a guy from Sweden order an NS Dimension from Ish guitars, because he couldn't wait for the European release. Who'd do such a thing? ;)
@rockingbuddah
@rockingbuddah Жыл бұрын
I love the spector
@KP-vr6ft
@KP-vr6ft 2 жыл бұрын
I have been struggling with a decision between an Ibanez EHB and a Dingwall D Roc... This did not help at all thanks :)
@ABPWPB
@ABPWPB Ай бұрын
Im not sure if the Ibanez btb805ms was out at the time of this video, but im sure it would be better then the ehb1505ms as it includes the 37" multiscale length and a head
@PS_Bass
@PS_Bass 3 жыл бұрын
Bass player who uses a pick: well, guess I’ll go 🦆 myself.. 😂 That Spector sounded the best. Hands down.
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
Go Spector if you want to play with a pick.
@maximedebeaupuis432
@maximedebeaupuis432 2 жыл бұрын
Metal guy here, tuning to a Gb B Gb B E, I prefer a 37-34 Scaling
@avalerionbass
@avalerionbass 3 ай бұрын
Dingwall definitely has the most well rounded tone. The other two seem like they'd be suited to limited styles.
@peterresetz1960
@peterresetz1960 2 жыл бұрын
Spector. It had the most balanced bottom when slapping, but the Dingwall had the finger tone.
@rcjd7834
@rcjd7834 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Warwick announced a multi-scale... The Warwick low mid growl with the 37" clarity on the B? That would be awesome. As these basses are right now, I think I lean towards the Spector. I think Dingwalls are borderline overused at this point (in prog especially), almost that the Dingwall/Darkglass combo isn't that unique anymore. The Fluence pickups sound great, and they are super versatile. That being said, I'd love to see the ESP B-1005MS go up against these. It comes in at $100 less than the Ibanez, with the same pickups and the 37" low B. I'd probably consider it the most seriously besides the Spector.
@mattmatthews5414
@mattmatthews5414 3 жыл бұрын
If Warwick would do the Fortress silhouette in classic thin Wenge+Wenge neck on a Bubinga body with the Thumb top carving and Thumb electronics as a MS, it would easily be a Dingwall killer.
@Kraz3e987
@Kraz3e987 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's almost like so many people are using dingwall and darkglass, the sound (though good) is almost annoying at this point cause everyones filing In the same tone.
@zubrhero5270
@zubrhero5270 2 жыл бұрын
Dingwall + Darkglass is basically the "aesthetic" isn't it, as the kids say.
@PLively
@PLively 2 жыл бұрын
"as long as they work" Hear hear. That's the important thing.
@YaYaMoAffetuoso
@YaYaMoAffetuoso Жыл бұрын
I have this same Spector it’s beautiful but has a little bit of neck dive. It sounds great but the weight plus neck dive hurts the comfort playing it a bit
@SW-he9kw
@SW-he9kw 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Spector demensions would have EMG+tonepump like euro lx 😭😭
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 3 жыл бұрын
I'm working on something special... You'll see :)
@SW-he9kw
@SW-he9kw 3 жыл бұрын
@@ishguitars I'm looking forward to it🔥🔥🔥
@rafaelaparicio9682
@rafaelaparicio9682 Жыл бұрын
I'd go ibby based on looks price weight versatility and string choice.
@Solelova67
@Solelova67 3 жыл бұрын
The Spector, Dingwall & Ibanez
@mjmason75
@mjmason75 3 жыл бұрын
The Dingwall sounds the best set flat in this video.
@adamrushka8096
@adamrushka8096 3 жыл бұрын
Spector, Dingwall, then the Ibanez.
@nephilymbass1
@nephilymbass1 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, still a happy Dingwall owner
@gpbbassman500
@gpbbassman500 3 жыл бұрын
Spector... then Dingwall.... then Ibanez.
@rattmann3170
@rattmann3170 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to beat a Dingwall. As they say, "Ding Dong all day long."
@drewbarron2154
@drewbarron2154 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned a Dingwall guitar for 25 years and although I'm not a bassist I have to say they are the very best! I think the Spector is a bit woody sounding and not as bright.
@djentcommunion2422
@djentcommunion2422 3 жыл бұрын
dude you don't know the power of spector. Comparing pickups only spector is win
@ryaandnice
@ryaandnice 9 ай бұрын
Whaaaat? That last sticker was basically "I don't want Ibanez to win".
@berserker2551
@berserker2551 3 жыл бұрын
I expected more of the Ibanez..... But finally the Spector is the best 100% Confirmed
@douglasdiggins8296
@douglasdiggins8296 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the Ibanez is also a bit cheaper than the other 2 fellas, but I agree with most of the Spector, Dingwall, Ibanez lists.
@Bcwilderness
@Bcwilderness 3 жыл бұрын
dingwall clarity job done
@davidesarraggiotto6603
@davidesarraggiotto6603 3 жыл бұрын
Spector, Dingwall and Ibanez. That said, I've recently ordered an EHB. Lmao.
@hodshonf
@hodshonf 3 жыл бұрын
me too i don't like the Fishmans at all
@bassimprovjams3772
@bassimprovjams3772 2 жыл бұрын
I wish stingray would get a multi scale line going!! As long as it doesn’t neck dive like a Warwick thumb nt im good
@ishguitars
@ishguitars 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh that would be extraordinary.
@xplanet2112
@xplanet2112 2 жыл бұрын
The Bridges on the Dingwall are Hipshot, Dingwall Hipshot solos which are the regular Hipshot solo modified by Sheldon as the regular Solos are too long for this bass.
@crazeyjoe
@crazeyjoe 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, Spector, Dingwall then Ibanez.
@agermi
@agermi 3 жыл бұрын
Spector > Dingwall > Ibanez
@adamwalcott_official
@adamwalcott_official Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why ash wood seems to be always listed as low-weight. My swamp ash pre-Gibson Tobias Growler was heavy. I loved that bass but it fell off the guitar stand and the headstock snapped halfway through. I got it professionally repaired but it was never the same so I sold it.
@levilee207
@levilee207 3 жыл бұрын
That very first riff is totally Flying Battery Zone Act 2 from Sonic Mania lmao
@reactionsaccount3955
@reactionsaccount3955 Жыл бұрын
Sorry if I am late to this party. Great shootout, except for one problem, which is the same one I had with Consumer Reports; you give equal weigh to all categories and to me this is a mistake, not all categories are as important, the primary function of the device should have a lot more weight. Maybe you could also choose one or two more categories and also give them more weight, not as much as the primary one, but still more than less important ones. For example you give something like 50% for the primary function, then maybe 15% for a couple of the other important categories and the rest split evenly with the remaining percentage. Just my opinion from years of reading reviews.
@bassyboii
@bassyboii 3 жыл бұрын
Spector all day. The Dingwalls have great playability, but i went back to my spector.
@LeeJoRo
@LeeJoRo 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh dude. I really like that ibanez
@owenscott5063
@owenscott5063 Жыл бұрын
Do this again but with a Dingwall out of the custom shop all made in Canada
@ishguitars
@ishguitars Жыл бұрын
we did just release a video comparing the Dingwall D-Roc Standard vs Custom!
@Lordoftheswollen
@Lordoftheswollen 3 жыл бұрын
So basically do you want a BO or neckthrough?
@punkrockmartian
@punkrockmartian 3 жыл бұрын
All this tells me is that the Spector Ibanez marketing budgets are bigger then the esp,ache yet and warrick marketing budgets
@Jazzyexplorer
@Jazzyexplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Are you guys digging the Digwall bass because it's basically a Canadian product
@adamrushka8096
@adamrushka8096 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait wait.. Did you say Ibanez makes good hardware ? Do you remember the acu-cast bridges that the strings were pulling out of ?
@keithkarner3294
@keithkarner3294 9 ай бұрын
Feel like the Ibanez and the dingwall would sit better in the mix for most styles of music. The Spector had that sound of new strings with no mid and the higher end was a little harsh.
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