Muscle fibre science and myths that athletes need to know

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4 жыл бұрын

Why you should know about muscle fibre science! and 5 myths you might not know. Don't agree tell me below!
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@hebrews11vs5
@hebrews11vs5 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching hrs of the trainer road podcast, which is great. But never have I seen this information that is contained on this video. How have I never seen this before? This is excellent. Info is laid out so well. Great job with this one and I can't wait to see the sequel next month.
@BSmith-xm1qn
@BSmith-xm1qn 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another awesome video you've made. I just wanted to throw in an additional consideration for your future video re cadence science (as if there weren't enough complexities). Namely, how much muscle mass do you want to carry around (vis-a-vis your training cadence/torque)? Additional leg muscle mass will significantly impact many variables such as your weight, aerodynamic drag, and basal metabolic rate. Another way of putting this question would be, What kind of race engine (leg muscles) do you want installed in your racing chassis -a big, high-torque, low-revving eight cylinder or a small, high revving four cylinder? Both can theoretically put out the same power. The trend in road cycling in the last decades has been generally away from the former (Jan Ullrich, Greg Lemond) and toward the latter (Chris Froome, most riders today), exceptions notwithstanding-which not coincidentally parallels the trend in race engine design (for the same engineering reasons). Having said this, one must also ask oneself, what are your actual goals in training, to win Grand Tours or to preserve healthy body composition? I'm in my early 50's and have been road cycling my entire adult life. I've always naturally gravitated toward a relatively fast 95-105 cadence, but I'm finding now that I want to train at a lower, more torquey cadence than is natural for me, as it really does help maintain more leg muscle mass (which I'm seeing unfortunately requires extra stimulus to maintain the older you get). Switching gears quite a bit, one final thought that dovetails only somewhat loosely with the above (as far as aero drag from upper leg diameter) is an idea I've been mulling over for years, and which I thought you might find interesting: For time trialists, wouldn't VO2,max be better expressed relative to one's CdA than to one's body weight? I bet such a VO2,max (CdA) benchmark would correlate much better with actual time trial performance than the conventional VO2,max per kg metric.
@allthingsTechrelated
@allthingsTechrelated 4 жыл бұрын
You have shone a bright light in dense darkness.
@cyclesmart38
@cyclesmart38 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, well presented on a complex topic, thank you!!
@PAC9322
@PAC9322 3 жыл бұрын
Great work man.. Thanks for sharing.
@JasonDBike
@JasonDBike 4 жыл бұрын
One year ago I subscribed to your channel. I found the videos to be complicated. Now I have seen too many gcn videos and can't really stand them, except for the entertainment. Now I understand your videos and love them. Thank you for your hard research work.
@fidru
@fidru 3 жыл бұрын
you know that gcn is not ment for syclists but for people who would like to be one. 😀 same goes for most of similar running youtube content.
@user-qg7qe7we2o
@user-qg7qe7we2o 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@pbalerig
@pbalerig 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@francoisjacques504
@francoisjacques504 4 жыл бұрын
excelant video. subbed bra
@cyclinguniversity1244
@cyclinguniversity1244 4 жыл бұрын
excellent!
@HECTORBIDO
@HECTORBIDO 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@fidru
@fidru 3 жыл бұрын
@7:05 funny. I was in fact told its only going in one direction. something like: "sprinters can borrow/transform some ftf for endurance but endurance athletes can't do the same with stf the other way around". my personal experience with several training partners (in running and cycling) seems to confirm it. but thats just unscientific simple observation with confirmation bios 🤔 "
@stevenbalderstone709
@stevenbalderstone709 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Alex. So basically muscle composition is more training dependant, than maybe we'd previously recognised; akin to the nature / nurture debate. Therefore pointing to the need for training specificity aligned to the demands of the targetted event? As an endurance trained middle distance athlete my 400m PB was mediocre but improved by 3 sec after "retiring" and doing a season of just sprint training. No surprises there.
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and it is the 'hybrid' fibres that are the one that are most flexible to change (in both directions) providing there is a consistent stimulus.
@investireocaminho33
@investireocaminho33 4 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@sexandtheswiss
@sexandtheswiss 2 жыл бұрын
With the detraining example, is this why pros tend to also ride on rest days?
@paulmedinamutuc
@paulmedinamutuc 4 жыл бұрын
This is a little off track but you presented a graph with the different levels of training i.e. Base training etc. Do you agree with Phil Maffetone’s recommendation that his subjects trained at low heart levels and were able to get PR’s on their one mile pace. These were runners so I guess no much power output.
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
I do not know how those runners trained and I do not understand the Maffetone formula......maybe you could explain..... how much does his advisory max HR differ from you genuine maxHR? It is usually a mistake to training exclusively in one heart rate zone for any endurance sport, the best plan is one that varies according to your needs (see fft.tips/vtiz and fft.tips/tpp)
@MrJhockley
@MrJhockley 4 жыл бұрын
This has got me thinking more about recovery and detraining. So it's possible to take a week off and lose three weeks training. It's also possible to taper before a race and not lose any fitness. It recommended to take rest days to recover. What's the minimum amount of training someone of particular fitness could get away with to maintain fitness?
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
Ball park....roughly two thirds of the volume (if intensity is slightly increased) for about 6 weeks. If intensity and duration are both increased fitness will deteriorate on day 2 onwards
@MrJhockley
@MrJhockley 4 жыл бұрын
Taking 4 weeks to recovery from 1 week of detraining!!! gasp!!. They must have been super elite or lost fitness through malnutrition, injury or illness? It would be rare to see that at the age group level.
@davidstrong7854
@davidstrong7854 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathon Hockley a one week vacation off the bike seems to take me 3weeks to month to get back to where I was. I don’t think that’s far off. Age my have a lot to do with it also.
@tapuzak
@tapuzak 4 жыл бұрын
Good topic, so much misunderstanding here.
@brainsandbrawncoach
@brainsandbrawncoach 4 жыл бұрын
Please list any literature that suggests/proves that muscle fiber conversion can go in the direction of slow to fast. We know that, and the literature has suggested for many years, muscle fiber type can convert from faster to slower twitch. I have been searching but cannot find anything that proves the opposite.
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
As you asked nicely I am happy to help. Yes there were some assumptions on this a few years back about unidirectionality perhaps linked with the difficulty conducting a study where athletes change stimulus from endurance to resistance (and back?) in one study. Common sense will tell you that a one -way system is vanishing rare in physiology so it was always perhaps a false negative due to lack of evidence. Fortunately, we have evidence from other studies regarding the flexibility of fibre 'conversion' which I am sure you realize will in reality be very complex and involve gene expression > protein signally > protein transcription and translation and finally muscle fibre compositional change over time (likely taking several months). Also remember the "conversions" maybe from faster IIx to IIb or from hybrid i/IIx to IIx etc. Remember too that less slow twitch to more fast twitch might occur in several different situations including less slow twitch stimulus as well as more fast twitch stimulus and perhaps less stimulus altogether. Now on to the actual evidence, and this is only a summary and not my own work..........
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
#1 DETRAINING STUDIES "From studies done on detraining and bed rest, Andersen et al. (2005) has proposed that human skeletal muscle MHC IIX (Type IIB) represents a default gene setting that is expressed in the absence physical activity or muscle contractility. This states that a previously trained individual will go through muscular changes in the direction of Type I => Type IIa => Type IIb when detraining or becomes sedentary " "Andersen et al. (2005) trained sedentary young males using knee extension exercises three times per week for 3 months using moderate to heavy resistances (from 10 to 6 repetition maximum, RM). Testing was performed before the start of training, after 3 months of training and again 3 months after detraining. Following 3 months of training, the CSA of quadriceps and EMG activity both increased by 10%. Also, isokinetic muscle strength at 30 and 240° s−1, was increased by 18% (P 
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
#2 INJURY STUDIES "Muscular and neural adaptations may be reversed at different rates, while muscle fiber phenotype is altered toward an increased expression of the fast MHC IIX phenotype (Andersen and Aagaard, 2000). This response is closely coupled to the progressive upregulation of chiefly the type IIx MHC and downregulation of type I MHC took as long as 90 days to be fully manifest (Huey et al)" **see** Huey KA, Roy RR, Baldwin KM, Edgerton VR.Time-dependent effects of spinal cord isolation on MHC gene expression in rodent antigravity muscles.Med Sci Sports Ex322000S80 Google Scholar "In animal experiments it has been reported that unloaded muscle does show preferential atrophy of type 1 fibres and increased proportions of type 2 fibres (Fitts et al, 2000; Jiang et al, 1992; Maier et al, 1976; Booth and Kelson, 1973). " **see**Fitts, R H, Riley, D R and Widrick, J J (2000). ‘Microgravity and skeletal muscle’, Journal of Applied Physiology, 89, 823-839. Hortobágyi et al (2000) studied 48 pain free healthy subjects and immobilised their left legs for three weeks in fibreglass casts. Proportions of type 1 fibres reduced by 9% (p < 0.05) and numbers of type 2X fibres increased by 7%, but numbers of type 2A fibres were not affected. In terms of area, however, all three fibre types were reduced significantly **see**Hortobágyi, T, Dempsey, L, Fraser, D, Zheng, D, Hamilton, G, Lambert, J and Dohm, L (2000). ‘Changes in muscle strength, muscle fibre size and myofibrillar gene expression after immobilisation and retraining in humans’, Journal of Physiology, 524, 293-304.
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
#3 AGING STUDIES "With the natural process of aging and its corresponding decline in muscle mass and function, a study was carried out by D’antona et al. (2003) to examine the effect of aging following immobilization on structure and function of muscle fibers. This study was performed in order to 183 inspect the differences of muscle fibers and possible shifts between young and elderly individuals after one of the elderly groups was immobilized. The subjects were divided into 3 groups: (1) healthy young individuals (n =7) with no previous record of muscular diseases or traumatic lesions, aged 30.2 ± 2.2 years, and who were not involved in any regular training or exercise; (2) elderly subjects (n=7) with same criteria as first group aged 72.7 ± 2.3 years; (3) elderly subjects (n=2) aged 70 and 72, whose right leg had been completely immobilized for 3.5 months in an extended position. Biopsies were taken from the right leg vastus lateralis. The results of this study showed an increase in MHC 2X (type IIB) and a decrease in MHC 2A (type IIA) in the order of groups 1 => 2 => 3. MHC-1 (type I) was significantly lower in the immobilized elderly than in the other two groups. As a whole, the results indicate a shift toward a faster phenotype in the elderly, and to a greater extent, in the immobilized elderly. Fiber atrophy following immobilization was more pronounced for type I fibers (-51%) than for type IIA (-26%) and IIB (-24%). Atrophy following aging was also more pronounced for type I (-22%) than type II (-12%), whereas no significant decreases in cross sectional areas were found for type IIAB and IIB (D’antona et al., 2003). This study confirms that muscular shifts favor in the direction of type IIB fibers in the absence of physical activity, but this also presents evidence of preferential aging related muscular atrophy of type IIA fibers. However with the preferential shift toward type IIB fibers in younger individuals, elderly individuals may exhibit a slower phenotype on the basis of preferential denervation of fast motor units due to aging (D’antona et al., 2003). Phenotypes exhibited are dependent on the level of physical activity since sarcopenia may be managed and even reversed through intense physical activity. Aging causes a denervation of fast twitch fibers, while lack of physical activity causes a shift toward fast twitch fibers. It remains a little unclear as to whether type I or type II muscle fibers are more abundant within the immobilized or inactive elderly population since type II fibers are affected by denervation, but inactive individuals tend to favor towards type II fibers." **see**D’Antona, G., Pellegrino, M. A., Adami, R., Rossi, R., Carlizzi, C. N., Canepari, M., Saltin, B. and Bottinelli, R. (2003). The effect of ageing and immobilization on structure and function of human skeletal muscle fibres. The Journal of Physiology, 552: 499-511. doi: 10.1111/j.1469-7793.2003.00499.x
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
#4 DOES RESISTANCE TRAINING REDUCE TYPE I ST fibres? The jury is out, but in humans, resistance training has been shown to reduce fast type IIx MHC that is downregulated and the fast IIa MHC that is upregulated (2, 7, 22, 63). If the subjects are detrained for several weeks, it appears that this process is reversed and the reexpression of the fast type IIx appears to be even greater than the level that was originally expressed in the pretraining period (5). "Numerous studies have shown that heavy resistance exercise training will decrease the expression of MyHC IIX in human skeletal muscle and simultaneously increase the expression of MyHC IIA, whereas the expression of MHC I is much more unaffected by the resistance exercise (Hather et al., 1991; Adams et al., 1993; Andersen & Aagaard, 2000). This is a highly solid observation and a general consensus on this point exists among people working in the field (Fry, 2004; Folland & Williams, 2007). Likewise, cessation of resistance training will induce, or re‐induce MyHC IIX at the expense of MyHC IIA (Andersen & Aagaard, 2000; Andersen et al., 2005). Whether or not the number of fibers expressing MyHC I is increased or decreased after strength training is debateable, but most likely, there is no or only very subtle changes in the number of fibers expressing MyHC I (Andersen & Aagaard, 2000; Fry, 2004)." **see**Fry AC. The role of resistance exercise intensity on muscle fibre adaptations. Sports Med 2004: 34: 663-679. **see**Hather BM, Tesch PA, Buchanan P, Dudley GA. Influence of eccentric actions on skeletal muscle adaptations to resistance training. Acta Physiol Scand 1991: 143: 177-185. #5 SPACE (LOW GRAVITY STUDIES) There is some evidence in this category too.
@tednruth453
@tednruth453 4 жыл бұрын
A can of worms Alex! Beware!
@kakarot2430
@kakarot2430 4 жыл бұрын
I am curious, does fat guy tend to have higher vo2max, because their body adapted to needs of more oxygen. I got several friends who are fat and became so strong after losing weight from cycling.
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 4 жыл бұрын
I answered your question here: medium.com/@alexfastfitnesstips/vo2-max-and-body-weight-cb7b500700a2
@wazzup105
@wazzup105 4 жыл бұрын
Those transition noises are kinda annoying. Apart from that great video !
@ggregor123
@ggregor123 2 жыл бұрын
What is this guys background?
@Fastfitnesstips
@Fastfitnesstips 2 жыл бұрын
Medicine (MD) and Coaching. How about you?
@ggregor123
@ggregor123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips Thanks. My background quickly is Masters in Sport and Exercise Science, 20 years coaching experience in Professional High Performance Strength and conditioning/ Sport Science and Medicine.
@jessiemcbride1926
@jessiemcbride1926 4 жыл бұрын
Just means high twitch equals explosiveness not skill level or work ethic or dedication to improving your craft!!!
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