Hey, don’t trouble yourself with these petty people. Ignore them. I hope you’re successful with your band

That’s f’d up that they’re basically threatening to blackball you for cancelling meanwhile there was not even close to any legal obligation made via contract yet…besides it absolutely makes sense to withdraw when you know it’s not going to at least cover the expenses made…I’m with you on this

glad to see more and more artists no matter which genre speak out about issues artists > any1, any pets like bookers or vanues, you're none without artists.

People are so childish and narrowminded. Dont let it get to you man, you're obviously doing something right to be getting these invites in the first place. Keep being yourself and look forward. Congratulations on the gig and I hope the best for you!

I'm so sorry you're experiencing this, Boris. How heartbreaking and discouraging. I know you're not feeling it right now, but know many of us are going to keep hope that you don't give up. You've got a big support system here, cheering you on to achieve your dreams.

Having a young real band is spending money. Not earning them. Even if you all live in the same town you have to spend, spend and spend. And then when you sacrificed everything and finally you're ready to show yourself to the world, the first gig manager tells you you have to pay him like 500 euros to get a slot and another 200 euros if you'd like to sell your merch no one will buy. My life is music and I love playing live but fuck it. You just end up feeling completely ruined both physically and emotionally. Let alone financially. A studio project with cool videos and maybe a gig or two every 10 years is ok.

If I had the money to book a concert venue, I'd make sure to have you come and play in my area, I'm sure you'd have success :)

I think you behaved very well. Stay true to yourself and you'll be way ahead of these fake people.

Boris, I've been through all this sort of nonsense with the music business and other musicians. It's one of those things that chips away at you, and if you're not careful can come and get you. If you are fortunate enough to have family and good friends around you, sink back into that for a while and ground yourself again. Pay no attention to these plastic gangsters, they have to use these sorts of threats to confirm to themselves that they have some sort of relevance in the grand scheme of life when, in reality, they're just a middle-man living off the talent of people like you and me.

Long story short, metal music industry is just as corrupt as the pop scene.

I didn’t think being honest would be considered having an “attitude” lol 😂 If they really wanted you there, then they should’ve found a way, instead of complaining about you not being able to be there!

Be always very careful when it comes to contracts. It is one of the most important things to know. Have a lawyer and always make a counter contract to others to sign if in any case something f's up. Music industry is a mess.

NPD Boris. Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Sounds like that is what you bumped up against, I imagine there is a lot of that shit in the industry and the " way things are" Whenever you are hit with the " HOW DARE YOU?" It becomes an almost comical litmus test of the nature of the personality you are dealing with. I have unfortunately dealt with a couple of these vampires of energy. Keep rockin man. I and many others love the music you are creating.

No one should ever shame someone for cancelling something because of their financial issues, that’s just gross and they seem very entitled, if they’re that upset why don’t they pay for it as they seem to think that money grows on trees!

Passion doesn’t pay for plane tickets

Boris, your star is on the rise and this is part of the ascent. The very finest musicians in the world have things like this happen from time to time. It's almost a problem that you want to have if that makes any sense. Continue to seek excellence, especially in making connections, and you'll have great success. As you grow, your success will naturally send a message that you don't have time for nonsense and others at the top of their fields will be drawn to you.

Boris you need to try and find local band mates. I know that is easier said than done but that's what needs to happen.

I know it's disgusting and annoying but you don't have to answer to anybody, especially not to people like this! Do your thing, get strength from your REAL fans and don't let this shit get you down!

every artist deserve anything, if they offer you nothing just never go for it respect yourself.

That really is terrible in seeing how they're trying to ridicule you harshly just because you can't afford much. Not every musician is wealthy enough since everything has gone up in price nowadays. I wish you the best of being successful in the future, and never let any of those so-called "fans" bring you down.

Hail Boris....people can talk all the sht they want but at the end of the day they won't pay the bills. I know it's not about the money,but the"Pay to Play" mentality is lame. Internet bullies suck. Keep it true...cheers from California

#damn that sucks yo!Keep your head up high and keep doing what you are doing yo yeehaw!

Maintaining your integrity and staying true to yourself is what you're doing, which is a very very important thing. I fully believe in being properly compensated for your work / talents (of performance) and getting paid well for it.. I do not believe (most) musicians get paid enough.. Seriously. Sadly, it is a very common thing, in the entertainment industry, to pay your own travel expenses.. It sucks, but technically, you're a sub contractor, so you're subject to very different labor laws and things along those lines. I remember reading many interviews with professional wrestlers, when they were coming up, talking about paying their own travel expenses out if their meger paychecks; which is why they never actually made any money. The entire entertainment industry as a whole is greedy and greesy. Stay independent. Cheers 🍻😎🤘

Wow those are some really childish people.

Damn your last few weeks have been crazy indeed... I'm sorry to hear that but hopefully better times are at hand and you know there are a lot of people who still support you, brother! But always keep in mind that you must expect the worst in order to avoid much disappointment in life! Stay strong, we are with you!

Holy shit! What I absolutely can't understand here is that they offer you such contracts and then get offended when you say you can't play the show for cost reasons. I used to organize underground metal concerts myself more than 20 years ago. It was ALWAYS part of the contract that the musicians who had to travel a long way were paid their travel expenses and accommodation in addition to their fee. Back then, it would never have occurred to me to offer a contract where the band's costs were not covered. And yes, there were overnight stays in youth hostels, or privately at my house, but fuck! even if a band only got food and beer as a fee, the costs were always covered. I'm shocked at how bands like Tryglav are treated!

So terribly sorry to hear this, Boris!!! Stay strong and true! We, your true fans are on your side!!! You are a GREAT person and GREAT musician!!❤ And, we LOVE you very much!!! Big Hugs!!!🤘🥰🤘

Maybe this is why darkthrone never tour... I totally understand!

I like the way you handled this situation, Boris. I’m sure most of us musicians would agree that we’ve all had bad experiences with promoters, but this one is on another level. Nice job keeping it professional on your end. Musicians should demand more compensation for their time and efforts. Playing music isn’t cheap not to mention all the hard work we put into it. Keep up the great work!

I can’t speak to Europe because I never worked over there, but I worked in the music industry for several years here in the US on tour with lots of big name acts, and I was so jaded by the time I got out that it was years before I even went to another live show as just a fan. Promoters and label management are the world’s worst. For that dude to basically threaten you with slander is some of the most unprofessional shit I’ve ever heard. It’s not like you’ve been in preproduction with him for months sorting out parking for your 3 busses and two truckloads of equipment, your power requirements to run your monstrous stage show, and the army of stage hands you’re gonna need to load in and out. You’re literally one of the openers who was actually professional enough to give him a huge advanced heads up. Of all the problems I’ve ever had with live shows, other than weather related, almost every single one was because of the promoter. My guess is he’s seen how many subscribers you have and thinks that means you’ll be bringing that many people to the show. Fuck that guy

That some ridiculous shit, but nowhere to go but up. LONG LIVE TRYGLAV!!!

This are the dark sides of the music business and money problems can spoil the fun of music. You are right, don't let yourself be fooled and do your thing. Making live performances is good, but not necessary to run a successful music project. By the way, I like your channel and the music and will subscribe!!

damn this garbage even happens in the black metal scene? smh 😩😩

I've run into this a few times and I'm sure I will again in the future. There are scumbags everywhere in this business just keep grinding away!

you keeping it real will get you were YOU wan't to be!

You did the right thing by being honest and straight forward. This person who sent you awful emails is throwing a tantrum. Like a unprofessional ninny cry baby Life isn't a big party cake things unfortunately happen. You did nothing wrong.

Ahhh man, that indeed is some mega petty behavior, unfortunately there is a ton of people out there in the music business whose egos are insanely fragile, good thing is - there are a ton of others who are not like this and would find such outbursts laughable as well ❤

To bad you had to run into this kind of issues with industry people. Rest assured, your first gig in The Netherlands will turn out to be an epic one! Followed by many, missed by a lot. I wish you a slot on the Stonehenge festival in Steenwijk some day in the future. Keep up the good work and stay strong, my friend!

Things are going crazy recently

This “fan” seems kinda crazy…. Strange…

Dude theres always been the saying “theres no music in the music industry”. Most of these suits are parasitic leaches and parasites. i was in a signed touring band for half a decade and near the end we were getting terrible tours and offers only to find out after the fact that our booking agent got blacklisted after making some personal enemies in the industry. Had literally zero to do with us yet we paid the price. Needless to say I refuse to ever do music like that again unless its on my terms. Keep it up Boris, you’re a hardworking, creative dude. You dont need them.

That's why the 'Fenris' formula will always work best - have a full time job, do your projects studio only without being dependent on anything or anybody and release your stuff only on labels which are willing to consider YOUR terms instead of forcing you to accept THEIR conditions. And if the last one is hard to achieve, then record and release everything by yourself. Happily, we live in the world of streaming platforms and if you want physical releases, you can always save some money to print a few copies. I don't know why live shows should be an important aspect of black metal.

I talked with the frontman on Wind Rose this summer at a tiny festival here in Italy, that despite being small actually PAID the bands, (and i got to see Wind Rose, Ulvedhaar and Tyr in the same day, for free, and therefore had spare money to buy merch, because the town paid for them, no ticket, free entry): "I won't come to play at a festival for a beer and free food, i can get those at home"

I would laugh if this wouldn't be that sad! Have no idea why people refuse to understand how this whole thing works. I mean, you have to eat, right? You have to sleep somewhere, you have to pay for your travel and at least you have to pay the musicians... I think some people live in another universe. Please keep your head up high. You don't need that! 🤘🏻🖤🤘🏻

Hey, Boris: I'm in a band that plays not the music I love, but the only compromise I could get to play with friends on a regular basis. Recently we started getting some gigs and started charging more than just "ah, give us some pints and it's done". What we learned is that the Music business, specially playing live is very close to prostitution: do whatever the audience wants, get paid whatever they want to pay you and DON'T complain, otherwise social media cancellation. Funny you should share this experience, cus' I got the same sh*t in a different style. One I don't even hold that close to my heart as metal (old pop/classic rock from the 70 - 90's)

Screw them!!!

if this was the old days it would be different will thats what l think

Some people are just shit, man. I wish you all the best! Thanks for your content! =)

Fuck them! They sound like a bunch of dickheads. We got your back brother. I got mad respect and love for you dude. I wish I was your age again making music. You keep it up!

Dude, I think they were expecting you to negotiate with them LOL. Find a manager, set a standard caché for your band that pays the bills. That could help

glad you taking all of this with distance.. music industry need to change, f*ck labels and all that shit.

I know this is besides toe point of the video, but IS THAT A TRYGLAV BACK PATCH I NEEEEED ONE FOR EVERY VEST!!!!! I bought a shirt just to make my own

Hope you work things out, good luck. 🤘🏻

Wonder if those promoters get comission from the fests when they get bands to sign on for the fests. I mean it's like why would they say S**t like that period. It's pathetic and petty of them to be that way. You gave them plenty of notice to cancel.

I am with you! That's crap! I'm glad you are telling your story. Make a song about your situation...or not. Just make sure to make yourself heard.

Yes , I agree with you on 100% I also had so much bad experience in past with forming band , playing live and so on, even all those annoying labels who often wanna scam you.. of course some are nice.but still. Basically its main reason why i don't even wanna start real band , play live and even don't have much interest in labels. And honestly prefer to stay as "ONE MAN PROJECT, with no deal and contracts" its calm peaceful life :D 👌✌🤘

Felt quite sorry for hearing those really, and a quite shocked in a way. Is it even legal to ask someone to do some work for your business without paying? (asing bands to play at your fest) I am from Hong Kong, basically a place where non-pop(not just metal) music is really not popular (For reference, A Mayhem show would be less than 200 people, a Cryptopsy show would be just merely 150 people, a Marduk show would be similar. And the whole population in this city is about 7 Millions). But why is it we still got Mayhem or Cryptopsy or something else play here( all happened in a single year)? It's because our local promotor literally sold his own fking apartment and moved his family to another South Eastern country where the expenses is much more affordable, and so that he has the money and he can keep working remotely to bring some bands for us the local minority. What he did may be a bit not so wise in a sense, but I am wholeheartedly grateful for his act. And thus I got the impression of music promotors are people very passionate about their works and music. But we can see now it clearly it is not everyone. Nonetheless I still hope someday, somewhere in someway I can see Tryglav (or even better can say Hi to you) . I am considering to go to Midgardsblot for the first time in 2024 (actually considering this vs Brutal Assault, Emperor in both), maybe there is a chance for real I can meet you... Let's see and looking forward

Problem is most promoters cheat bands and keep the majority of the pay for themselves. Nowadays all promoters usually do is share a flyer on social media.

Childish, unprofessional and disrespectful the way the festival liaison handled your situation. True colours were shown in the wake of all this. Good on you for not compromising your integrity. Festivals are nothing without the artists who perform.

Hi, respect to all your afferts to do, what you are doing. I love it. Noo, no, not like that. Allways a very good show. And Reality. You Album rules, by the way! Thank you!

No matter how much he tries, he won't make a dent in your reputation, but as soon as people realize who he is, his own actions will make a dent in HIS. If this guy is so pressed for an underground black metal band cancelling months in advance and even before signing the contract, he must clearly be desperate... and bitter... and childish. And the first guy sounds like he's 12. And your entitled "friend" can get lost. I'm sorry you had all this stuff happening to you all at once. People seriously suck. But also... people showing their true colors and ereasing themselves from your life is like the trash taking itself out.

Don’t worry about their tiny and fragile egos

Keep your head up Boris! Love the music and use the jealousy and hate as a motivation for more success!!

Unfortunately the deeper you dig the more you’ll uncover that almost the entire industry is pay to play or taking a loss for the allure of opportunity. Only the top percentage are making money at this.

That's petty and it shows when the chips are down people are no good, this includes your "friend".

People like that literally just look for a reason to talk sh*t about someone else. Hurts even from the outside to see how much resentment you have to face even as someone who's just starting to play live shows. Whatever they say about your "attitude" or "commitment", the video of your Netherland shows proves different. It was chaotic af, but you pulled through! And from what I saw it looked like a really great show. I really enjoy your music and your channel, and wish you all the best with your future shows, and hope to be able to see you on stage myself at some point 🤘🔥

I payed for the album on bandcamp I'm already liking the songs I wanna play along to them I like it that much.

first time i see anything from this youtube channel. Playing metal since almost 20 years in underground bands i can only confirm every single words. Music industry is 💩

Try not to let this bother you. You reap what you sow, they sow piles of menuer and if not now, then later it will catch up with them and they will regret what they've done. You are awesome!!! Keep doing you 🤘😎🤘

People suck man. Sorry to hear you’ve got too deal with all these assholes.

1:20 its dificult to create a good band nowdays.

Frankly, this adventure you told us sounds like when you submit to BS jobs, and when you refuse them they are pissed off: they understand they'll not make money out of you. That's why I could do tours with my bands, but I won't. Conditions are bullshit. But probably a 1% of fault goes to you too: I could be wrong, but if I led a one man band, I would make a strong budget first, and then ask for gigs, knowing that I could go home with some money lost. What you did sounds TO THEM like first you got the gigs and then you asked yourself if you could afford it.

AMEN!!!!!! Its ridiculous. Not just in the metal genre but all of it. Don't get me started. Like the Rock Hall of Fame here in the US. Iron Maiden for example. Judas Priest as well. Hate them or love them. They absolutely should be in it. Dolly Parton?(no disrespect to her) or tho corny pop shit? Really??

Hey, fellow musician here. Class act on your part to not call these promoters out! Logistics are a huge problem for many bands, you may want to start investing on that. A van with your gear, plus each member owning their means of trasportation, or even better a camping van, would allow you to attend gigs quite far from your base. If you're willing to sleep in your cars or utilise camping sites, with careful planning you could cover a great radius, although not in great comfort!

There will always be people that will only think for their own success. You can’t please everyone. Try to do what’s best for the success of Tryglav, that’s the way forward.

It’s best you know now, who are the manipulative arseholes. You can steer clear of them as your career progresses. I have a feeling you will put these people to shame. You’ve handled this with maturity.

There are many pros & cons being an one man band, one of the cons, and the biggest , is the live shows, either you find members who ideally live close to you and can understand your vision and support it or you have to pay professionals. There also other ways to go live but it's not easy or acceptable by some fans. Just accept the facts and keep on creating music and things will find their own way

Ya doin allright. 🤘 Greetings from germany.

sadly passion do not pay the bills in todays economy

I would have just played by myself with a backing track

The music industry needs the carpet pulled under from them. Just like AL from ministry said it once we need to go back to the punk rock days let thebpeople decide what is good. I look at the labels like a bank giving a loan contract you don't need them they'll rob you.

This situation is genuinely sad on their end...Are children running these festivals?

wait guys we can help too because we can buy his shirts and we can promote his Amazing band in public because then we get peoples intentions and maybe they will listen to Tryglav and then Spotify will pay Boris and then he's good

that's why i never visit festivals at all. black metal isn't supposed to be played live in my opinion.

Haters will hate, Fake people will be fake. You are awesome and way more professional than these imbeciles. Thank you for being a genuine good person Boris.

don't listen to them i'm with you Boris

I always thought that travel expenses was payed by the festivals🤔

It’s honestly just a sign of your personal maturity that you’re not naming people. I would like to know the festival name so I can personally avoid sharing or saying anything good on their behalf! That is a really shitty way for them to act and it just makes you look better by their poor behavior. You could always tell them you’ll be happy to perform if they’re going to cover all of your expenses, in the US we say “put up or shut up.” This is just a small bump in the road, keep doing your own thing, you clearly don’t need these guys!

Keep your head up and don’t let anyone steal your sunshine 🤘🏻🔥💥🙏🏻💯

They are trying to blackmail?

You will come out of this stronger, and there will be a day you will have a laugh about this case. IMO it is better to stay faaaar away from persons who approach you as if you are a filler for a gig regardless the arena. It is a filtering process imo on the way of ascend as an art act. Stay true to yourself, you will always be fine. On a serious note, how do you manage to stay warm in one t shirt in a Norwegian apartment during winter??? Sorry if my humour is tasteless, keep it up and rock on, Boris!!🖤

i would love to wear that Tryglav shirt once i can afford the shipping fee lol

Maybe I am too naiv, but I hope that kind of people like them, they are just very little precent of the metal music industry.

Well it sounds like you dodged a bullet there, to be honest! You certainly don't need to worry about your albums not being even reasonably successful, and nowadays anyway, >75% (generous) of bands and artists that claim to tour around every single year and prefer large venues solely out of passion for the art are full of themselves and/or are being bullied by their managers. Local clubs might be a bit boring, but there would be no concerns about storms, heavy rain, dodgy bus detours (Dueling Banjos starts playing), being stranded etc when you could be supported by not only the fans, but others around who want to see local bands thrive, and it could grow from there.

It would be supercool if passion negated economic reality.

'The truth [sic] musicians play primarly out by passion'? Someone wants to exploit you! Run away from he or she! Personaly, I think you're right!

Maybe this is why Darkthrone said to hell with touring? Hats off to the bands that play for a cup of a coffee, but a guys gotta eat and have a roof over his head too. This is just petty bullshit man. Look how far you've come in just a few short years. Imagine where you'll be in 10. I wouldn't think it would be that hard to find band members in Norway. That's like the Black Metal mecca of the world. You need to venture out in to forests more often. Shake a tree hard enough and a bassist should fall out. Best of luck Boris \m/

The music business is full of snakes, liars and narcassists on every level, i have experienced this type of stuff myself in the past

keep up the good work Boris ! you will succeed !

Yeah, the music industry is pretty fucked up