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@tcb3901
@tcb3901 Ай бұрын
13:16 shouldn’t the Palestinians who have endured decades of oppression be entitled to the same dignity?
@mrwhite1765
@mrwhite1765 Ай бұрын
You mesn when Hamas went into power?
@philhahn
@philhahn Ай бұрын
@@mrwhite1765 When a foreign state came in and stole land to establish a colony, to make europe feel better....
@user-cw1bb3du2d
@user-cw1bb3du2d Ай бұрын
Do you think Bibi & his cabinet are better than Hamas? Think again!
@MrSpeedy99
@MrSpeedy99 Ай бұрын
@@mrwhite1765Hamas haven’t been in power since the invention of Israel. Hamas control has only existed since around 2006
@linvisible7782
@linvisible7782 Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@cathypaulino2153
@cathypaulino2153 Ай бұрын
They had a home Rufus, it was called Palestine, not Jordan.
@joostroeters9087
@joostroeters9087 Ай бұрын
Thank you Barbara, you talk more common sense than all western politicians and generals. If you would lead peace negotiations I would trust that the violence would stop and justice for all would be restored.
@socillizt4life
@socillizt4life Ай бұрын
✊🏾✊🏼🇮🇪🇿🇦🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇧🇿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿✊🏿✊🏻 The 2nd caller Barbra was pretty much spot on.
@CBoogieLA
@CBoogieLA Ай бұрын
You're always gonna feel a threat in an occupied land.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 Ай бұрын
​@@ruthhenry9577Does this apply to Northern Ireland? How about to British people living in Gibraltar?
@rayg4360
@rayg4360 Ай бұрын
U S , Australia, New Zealand etc
@jzm2sg
@jzm2sg Ай бұрын
I agree. Every one of 55 "islamic" land is a genocidal colonisation and occupation of non-Muslim land.
@rleeg6744
@rleeg6744 Ай бұрын
Not really. Most of MENA was Arabized and it's not likely to ever be reversed.
@Toupret
@Toupret Ай бұрын
​@@ruthhenry9577 You sound like Disney. That is all I have to say. You do not deserve further explanation. Why so weak?
@JohnDoe-fz6zn
@JohnDoe-fz6zn Ай бұрын
James, jews were always safer in muslim lands than in european lands, they lived together for 1400 years without mass persecution like those in europe. Thata the whole irony in this situation
@firefox1234ize
@firefox1234ize Ай бұрын
Whether it is Islamaphobia or antisemitism they true origin of hate comes from the West.
@holz_name
@holz_name Ай бұрын
That is so not true. Jews were so called in Islamic countries, making them second class citizens. Since the Middle Ages, pogroms against Jews were declared, resulting in massacres of Jews. I guess "like those in Europe" is true enough, Jews were more tolerated in Islamic countries than in Christian Europe. Today just a small fraction of Jews live in Islamic countries, like just a few thousand. Wikipedia have a whole article on it Jewish exodus from the Muslim world
@ianmuir3640
@ianmuir3640 Ай бұрын
Go back then
@NextChapterRapper
@NextChapterRapper Ай бұрын
Until an ethnostate was founded and Europeans came to colonize. That’s when the adversity truly began. Even under the Ottoman Empire Jews were safer than this.
@Beauweir
@Beauweir Ай бұрын
​@@ianmuir3640what are you talking about? Go back to the past? Who are you, Marty Mcfly?
@outcastp23
@outcastp23 Ай бұрын
We need more people like the second caller on both sides. The only long term solution is peace and security for all in the region.
@joshuapocalypse
@joshuapocalypse Ай бұрын
For real.
@janephilpott6565
@janephilpott6565 Ай бұрын
Applause for Barbara 👏👏 very well said
@muzr2635
@muzr2635 Ай бұрын
James always uses NetanYuHooo as cover for defending Israel. He's not the problem, most of the people in Israel are. They don't see Palestinians as humans
@joelhall5124
@joelhall5124 Ай бұрын
Doesn't take much for the idiots to find the comments section.
@nutcracker2916
@nutcracker2916 Ай бұрын
Funny how their neighbouring Arab "brothers " Some oil rich , don't seem to be offering them refuge.
@fireteamomega2343
@fireteamomega2343 Ай бұрын
​@@nutcracker2916 Why would they do that simply because they have the same religion ? For a lot of these countries it's still mass immigration and ideals and identity are completely different. So like anywhere it destabilizes there hegemonic principals by having a large population increase who has a different identity. Like the difference between someone identifying as Persian vs. Arabian. But I would suppose to you on the outside they are all just middle eastern. Basically Israel got land that was populated so they by all means should integrate. As they are in fact brothers and sisters many of these Palestinians are descendants of some original Hebrews who never left. The religious aspect might have changed but the bloodlines remain.
@raziablanchard2711
@raziablanchard2711 Ай бұрын
So true
@Klopp2543
@Klopp2543 Ай бұрын
The stats coming from Israel are astonishing over 60% don't believe Israel is using enough force against Gaza and only about 3% think the force used as devastating? Knesset voted overwhelmingly against 2 states solution? Israel has the most far right leaning youthful population in the world?
@MichelMawon4982
@MichelMawon4982 Ай бұрын
The people did have lands though. It’s like saying I’m American, but I’m homeless and I need a 100% Catholic state. Americans have a home…America. If you’re Pole, Czech, Ukrainian etc. those are homes for those people.
@user-em4dx6sg7y
@user-em4dx6sg7y Ай бұрын
Ideally poles should be in Europe. America is a nuisance and causes mayhem in Asia Africa and the Americas. If they all went back to UK Ireland Europe Africa etc it would bring a lot of peace and stability for Africa Asia and the Americas
@mISSsophisa
@mISSsophisa Ай бұрын
You’re forgetting that most Jews freed from concentration camps did not have homes. Their homes had been sold as soon as they were deported to those camps. First Jews arriving to Israel from these camps usually spent at least 4 years in so-called refugees camps as they had nowhere to go and no country that wanted to take them.
@alenezi989a3
@alenezi989a3 Ай бұрын
Exactly,
@Nashmiahone
@Nashmiahone Ай бұрын
James if the Jews needed a safe land of their own? Why not USA or European countries take them in. Germany could have given part of their county, yes or no? As they are the cause of Holocaust. And Again James stop with the Natayanu is the problem ,,this has been going on before with previous people in Israel Government.
@NextChapterRapper
@NextChapterRapper Ай бұрын
Agreed.
@nichfra
@nichfra Ай бұрын
And if we were living in the late 1940s the question if Israel could be founded in Europe would be one that mattered but it's 2024 Israel is where it is and looking at some alternate history where Israel was founded in South Germany is useless.
@limpethead
@limpethead Ай бұрын
Not initially. The Germans got their gas Chamber practice in Africa. In the early 1900s. When they attempted to take the continent during WW1, All their colonies were shared out with the allies. Then again WW2. Both Italy and Germany tried again. Plan was Italy takes the top half and Germany the bottom. Unfortunately the allies already had their bases. And they couldn't break through. Those colonies kept every African alive. Now we aren't there. But 3rd time lucky. Eh. Its coming. And that is why Germany has no colonies in Africa.
@davidkelly499
@davidkelly499 Ай бұрын
​@@nichfraYou seem to have missed the point? This isn't about one person, the Israeli government has been a problem for decades.
@nichfra
@nichfra Ай бұрын
@@davidkelly499 No I don't think I missed the point. I also talked about the whole nation. There isn't just one Jewish person sitting in Israel there's a whole country and bemoaning "but what if they'd never come here but gone to Europe instead" is useless because there is a whole country there. That's the current reality. I was commenting on the first half of that comment not on the Netanyahu part.
@soniad3241
@soniad3241 Ай бұрын
My husband saw brown Jewish people being treated as third class citizens by their white counter parts. Also Palestinian Christians are treated just as badly. Have you seen the Armenian Christiansbeing evicted from where they have lived in Jerusalem for centuries.
@goaway9487
@goaway9487 Ай бұрын
The majority of the white Jews are from east Europe & east Europe is notorious for mistreating brown people. The Roma population of Europe will testify to this. They’re not exactly going to change if they are not held accountable out of fear of anti-semitism.
@Shez-dc3fn
@Shez-dc3fn Ай бұрын
note no israel/zionist supporter has dared reply to you..
@SkamGame
@SkamGame Ай бұрын
When will they ask "Are we the baddies?"
@chatham43
@chatham43 Ай бұрын
@Skam Thanks for providing us with your IQ.😊
@DarkHelixia
@DarkHelixia Ай бұрын
Only when they adopt a ☠️ as their emblem ...
@Toupret
@Toupret Ай бұрын
Great comment SkamGame. Ignore the backchat, you beat them to it.
@---Tre---
@---Tre--- Ай бұрын
Israel declared war on Iran by attacking one of their consulates.
@chatham43
@chatham43 Ай бұрын
@tre Clunky spin. We expect better!😊
@marcust123
@marcust123 Ай бұрын
They didnt strike the consulate tho?
@tee24zz
@tee24zz Ай бұрын
@@marcust123they knew what they were doing
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
@@marcust123 Yes they did.
@deborah-hq7xe
@deborah-hq7xe Ай бұрын
​@@Khalkara😂
@flyagaric23
@flyagaric23 Ай бұрын
Barbara speaks for me....what a fantastically honest and loving individual.
@redwan123456
@redwan123456 Ай бұрын
How is she causing a disruption if she is praying during her lunch break (therefore her free time)... if it was during class time then yes she can make it up later when she has time.
@surose7506
@surose7506 Ай бұрын
Having Suella as the secular school's chairman of governors throws a lot of suspicion. Infact, it is reported that Suella & her mother were the founding directors of the school Trust at company House. An initiative for strict schools. Curiously, Does the secular school apply the same equality ruling on Jewish religious days
@richardpreece5384
@richardpreece5384 Ай бұрын
No way! Absolutely say no more.
@firefox1234ize
@firefox1234ize Ай бұрын
The caller at 43:21 is pretty much the majority of Israel the West will have to confront
@linvisible7782
@linvisible7782 Ай бұрын
Such a big part of the problem. They say they didn’t ask for this war and they didn’t want this war but they actually did everything they could to keep the conflict going by keeping the Palestinians down
@omarayoubi4487
@omarayoubi4487 Ай бұрын
That first Jewish/atheist lady was certainly a breath of fresh air
@SPEngland
@SPEngland Ай бұрын
It's easy to say, if you don't like the rules of the school find another. But if 50% of the pupils are Muslim it's most likely that they are attending their local feeder school, as most kids do. It is therefore not that easy to just go to another school due to the difficulties of getting a place outside your area. It almost feels ruthless and vindictive for a head teacher to make those rules in a large percentage Muslim school. Backwards thinking in my opinion. There is no harm to any other person while someone is praying but so much harm when you're blocking prayer. What's happened to peace amongst society? 😕 😢😮
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
There is harm to other people, as well as the person performing the prayer. The harm is normalizing backwards and dangerous beliefs. If this school in question was specifically banning muslim prayer, that would be wrong in that its clearly discriminatory. But if it bans all forms of prayer, that's fine.
@azizrampage
@azizrampage Ай бұрын
@@Khalkara I don't understand how prayer affects someone else, they're carrying out a religious duty that's not bothering anyone , but actually its actually very ignorant to say something is backwards and dangerous just because they're praying , are you saying a muslim practising his religion is backwards and dangerous?
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
@@azizrampage Because it normalizes religion, where it increases the likelihood of mentally vulnerable people becoming cult members. Or turn otherwise reasonable people in to unreasonable people. Any religious person practicing their religion is backwards, by virtue of their belief in something without evidence, yes. And yes it is also dangerous because it normalizes cult behaviour. The ignorant position is to pretend that this isn't the case, because we have thousands of years of evidence of this.
@azizrampage
@azizrampage Ай бұрын
@@Khalkara ok so half the worlds population is backwards then
@purpleprinc3
@purpleprinc3 Ай бұрын
@@Khalkara "Because it normalizes religion, where it increases the likelihood of mentally vulnerable people becoming cult members. Or turn otherwise reasonable people in to unreasonable people." "Any religious person practicing their religion is backwards, by virtue of their belief in something without evidence, yes." Do you have evidence love exists? Any person practicing love is backwards, by virtue of their belief in something without evidence, yes." Is that logic correct?
@inar5973
@inar5973 Ай бұрын
Rufus represents the thinking of so many Israelis. Shocking but not shocking.
@pamcroft844
@pamcroft844 Ай бұрын
"Safety " is not a guarantee for ANYONE Ridiculous
@NextChapterRapper
@NextChapterRapper Ай бұрын
The false premise of an ethnostate. What a sly capitalization on a Holocaust that was.
@Toupret
@Toupret Ай бұрын
Safety is subjective.
@ashleyturner3998
@ashleyturner3998 Ай бұрын
Well said Barbara! As a species a couple of chromosomes separated from chimpanzees and baboons, we are crippled by our religious beliefs rather than our rationality!
@ryanv3015
@ryanv3015 Ай бұрын
Its not that straightforward, language, customs and culture play a huge role. If religion didn't exist, humans would find another ideology to legitimise division and warfare.
@FactsCanHurt
@FactsCanHurt Ай бұрын
I don't see what the issue is what a child does during breaks, it's not something we control at work or anywhere else so why is it okay to discriminate against children in schools? If they are not doing anything during lessons then it's no one's business what a child does during breaks as long as it is not harming themselves or anyone else. Now you want to bring up secular nonsense, then why do we celebrate Christmas, Easter? Why is the diet of the school in line with the headteachers religious dietary requirements? Or is it secular only when it suits?
@NextChapterRapper
@NextChapterRapper Ай бұрын
Is he being a boomer again? I just started the video. I’ve heard him tickle himself with some light Islamophobia last time… he means well but he has a blind spot there. The atheist movement from the gamergate era has really left its mark on his generation.
@savagedriver1967
@savagedriver1967 Ай бұрын
The school has a rule which everyone is aware of. If you don't like it, find another school.
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries Ай бұрын
On the meso level that school is defined and run as secular. The foundation and current principles are secular. When they oblige by national holidays they are just following the law. It's 2 different things.
@FactsCanHurt
@FactsCanHurt Ай бұрын
@@charisma-hornum-fries No one is speaking about obliging national holidays, they celebrate during both periods on top the diet for the school is also in line with the headteachers belief system. Being Secular only when it's against something you obviously have a prejudice against isn't secular... it's cherry picking
@darkfeign
@darkfeign Ай бұрын
Are you just going to ignore than 50% of the students are Muslim? And some Jews. So there would be different dietary requirements that the school sought to avoid by adopting a lunch menu that conformed to the dietary requirements in a secular manner. So what do you want? The child was causing disruption, and the teachers dealt with it.
@DivineLove247
@DivineLove247 Ай бұрын
Barbera ,...May Allah Bless her, IF Jews thought like her,...We could have LASTING PEACE.
@Lubby33152
@Lubby33152 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@rleeg6744
@rleeg6744 Ай бұрын
What happens to Jews in the end times?
@Master_Picks
@Master_Picks Ай бұрын
​@@rleeg6744No Christ, no salvation!
@rleeg6744
@rleeg6744 Ай бұрын
@@Master_Picks I meant in Islamic eschatology.
@Master_Picks
@Master_Picks Ай бұрын
@rleeg6744 Hearing you well. Is the end of times not common to every creed on earth?
@veronicajade20
@veronicajade20 Ай бұрын
A "homeland" for the _European_ Jews should've been built _in Europe._ Not on top of innocent Palestinians who _never did anything_ to European Jews - unlike other Europeans who persecuted European Jews. Now considering that the European Jews are in Palestine/Israel and they're likely not leaving, the only solution is a one state solution where everyone has equal human & civil rights.
@mISSsophisa
@mISSsophisa Ай бұрын
You’re forgetting that Jews also lived there. Alongside Palestinians since the end of the 19th century. Also Jews freed from concentration camps did not have homes. Their homes had been sold as soon as they were deported to those camps. First Jews arriving to Israel from these camps usually spent at least 4 years in so-called refugees camps as they had nowhere to go and no country that wanted to take them.
@veronicajade20
@veronicajade20 Ай бұрын
@@mISSsophisa And the fact that European Jews didn't have homes was the fault of _other Europeans_ who persecuted them - not the Palestinians. If they wanted a European Jewish "homeland," it should've been built in Europe. Other Europeans are the ones who persecuted European Jews, so _Europeans_ should've paid the price of giving up some land for them, not innocent Palestinians. All that being said, European Jews are in Palestine/Israel and aren't leaving and neither are the indigenous Palestinians. So like I said, the only solution is a one state solution where _everyone_ has _equal_ human & civil rights.
@rafiquekhan1284
@rafiquekhan1284 Ай бұрын
Barbara you said it so well, thank you. You can not live is safe and in peace when you have so much hate in yout heart
@benzolobster
@benzolobster Ай бұрын
Once that guy cited Caroline Glick it was game over. Just living in an entirely separate historical universe. 😅
@japphan
@japphan Ай бұрын
"Secularism isn't anti-religion" Case closed. But some fundamentalist secularists will never give up their bigotry.
@angeldust7591
@angeldust7591 Ай бұрын
British values... tolerance, respect, equal rights, tolerance........the ban represented non of these!!!
@DivineLove247
@DivineLove247 Ай бұрын
Secular mean, NO Religion Does this School have Easter Celebrations, or Christmas Celebrations,...IF Yes then it is not a SECULAR School. Schools should treat ALL its pupils Equally.
@kaikai-pb7fh
@kaikai-pb7fh Ай бұрын
they're national holidays..
@nutcracker2916
@nutcracker2916 Ай бұрын
In the school where my sister works she said more was made of EID . Barely any mention of Easter, I suppose it's the demographs . Also more and more Primary age school children in the juniors are fasting. So mid day meals staff are having to supervise those children who are not going into the dining area.Stretching staff resources. Headship reluctant to tell the parents that , they should wait until they are secondary age to do so. Some had to withdraw from P.E. as they were lethargic.
@RNMom19
@RNMom19 Ай бұрын
@@kaikai-pb7fhwith a religious basis. You cannot separate Christmas and Easter from Christianity. The irony is both holidays have their origins in pagan traditions and Christmas was widely banned until the 19th century when it became more acceptable and was adopted wholeheartedly.
@AAA-sx5ej
@AAA-sx5ej Ай бұрын
​@nutcracker2916 parents should be free to bring with their OWN children the way they fee fit, thats the essence of democracy and freedom. I don't want to dictate to another parent how i want them to bring their own children up. Its not my relm i seriously think.
@DivineLove247
@DivineLove247 Ай бұрын
@@kaikai-pb7fh You stated,...they're national holidays Yes Schools GIVE time off for Easter./ Eid/ Divali etc,....But to teach about Easter or Christmas in a SECULAR school would be Discrimination.
@st7302
@st7302 Ай бұрын
The school claims it is a secular school, so why did they make the school dinner only vegetarian. Vegetarian is a part of a Hindu religion. She has no problem to forcing every single child to become vegetarian.
@niallmccarthy1219
@niallmccarthy1219 Ай бұрын
James I'm with you all the way on almost everything, but this defence of the manufactured state is Israel is unconscionable
@darkfeign
@darkfeign Ай бұрын
Russian bot much?
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
​@@darkfeign How is OP talking like a russian bot? Tons of non-russians think Israel is doing the indefensible.
@SimplySimple-gv7yn
@SimplySimple-gv7yn Ай бұрын
😂🤣 james made me laugh so hard with his face expression when the caller said "they do have a homeland, its called jordan"
@Belginator
@Belginator Ай бұрын
28 minutes, love this lady
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 Ай бұрын
If the children can’t play pray in the month of Ramadan, then they would not be able to go to school. Possibly giving that would give the school a reason to expel them. Those treating the children very unfairly.
@user-cw1bb3du2d
@user-cw1bb3du2d Ай бұрын
Why always about the sadety of Israel? More importantly what about the safety of the Palestinians who have thus far had 35,000 people murdered?
@RazaPlaysGames
@RazaPlaysGames Ай бұрын
15:12 Dudes all over the place 19:01 what about extremist Jewish government responsible for death of 40,000 innocent Palestinians. What if that was 40,000 Jews?
@joshuarubin3684
@joshuarubin3684 Ай бұрын
(1) you twice wrote Jewish rather than Israeli, no worries it happens with some older keyboards (2) What's your source 40k innocent Palestinians?
@CrazyJay674
@CrazyJay674 Ай бұрын
@@joshuarubin3684 Your source for how many Hamas militants been killed?
@CrazyJay674
@CrazyJay674 Ай бұрын
@@joshuarubin3684 Your source for how many Hamas militants been killed?
@rowenadavies2411
@rowenadavies2411 Ай бұрын
Umm, it’s the Israeli government. And they have Arab members. Judaism is the major religion there but 21% of “Israelis” are Arab.
@joshuarubin3684
@joshuarubin3684 Ай бұрын
@@CrazyJay674 ? I never even made a claim about this?
@showmethefunny2470
@showmethefunny2470 Ай бұрын
They're just praying! Not harming anyone. You don't follow religion cause it doesn't fit your narratives. it doesn't mean religious duty isn't wrong
@naeedaafzal3055
@naeedaafzal3055 Ай бұрын
My nieces pray in school, they all amazing no issues
@savagedriver1967
@savagedriver1967 Ай бұрын
And your point is...? If the school has a policy that they apply to all pupils, why should one pupil be allowed to break that rule? If you don't like the system, find anther school.
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
There absolutely is an issue, they're normalizing their ridiculous beliefs.
@aishaarshadalam3412
@aishaarshadalam3412 Ай бұрын
​@@Khalkaraand what are your beliefs?atheism and nihilism? Ah yes perfect beliefs to have.
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
@@aishaarshadalam3412 Atheism isn't a belief, by definition. And it is an entirely reasonable position. I don't know enough about the details of nihilism to know whether I subscribe to that philosophy or not. Try making actual arguments in stead of hiding behind petty sarcastic remarks.
@pamelaadam9207
@pamelaadam9207 Ай бұрын
@@aishaarshadalam3412 and usually pushed on others
@LewisMerrin-cg6tj
@LewisMerrin-cg6tj Ай бұрын
A victory for common sense and British values
@hazelwilliams423
@hazelwilliams423 Ай бұрын
School issue: provide an ecumenical quiet room for all to use for prayer, meditation or taking time out.
@goaway9487
@goaway9487 Ай бұрын
Rufus from Stanmore is the perfect example of the problem. El al flights into Tehran? There are Jews living in Tehran today, real Jews from the Middle East not European ones who have no ethnical connection to the region much less the land of Palestine. He says israel has been trying to overthrow the Iranian government for years & this is not a threat how? It’s disgusting to listen to this obviously European person dictate where middle easterners should live!
@barienwhite1
@barienwhite1 Ай бұрын
The victimized OFTEN becomes the victimizer.
@dieselmalone944
@dieselmalone944 Ай бұрын
o'brien really looks like James Corden's older brother
@mikesyyt
@mikesyyt Ай бұрын
Piggy Corden ?
@purpleprinc3
@purpleprinc3 Ай бұрын
@@mikesyyt I was watching Big Fat quiz of 2005 or something and he was on it, he was orite-ish back in the day...ahh back in the day.
@mariam990
@mariam990 Ай бұрын
This caller could ask that question what’s like for Palestinians???
@jegar6813
@jegar6813 Ай бұрын
Do these schools celebrate Christmas, Easter? Will they stop celebrating these from now now on?
@EIREriddick13
@EIREriddick13 Ай бұрын
A Christian 'Idealology' school will. If you follow an Ideology then go to a school that suits that idea. What is the issue here??
@damlitproductions8126
@damlitproductions8126 Ай бұрын
NETANYAHU TO STEP DOWN & ISRAELI 🇮🇱 PEOPLE TO PUT COMPETENT LEADER IN POSITION, TO MEND BROKEN HEARTS ❤ AROUND THE 🌎 WORLD starting in israels own back yard & PALESTINIAN🇵🇸 state 👍🏼💯
@paulmitchell3131
@paulmitchell3131 Ай бұрын
These south English people that have moved there and are saying they want to hit back and escalate they will just move back to London and cry more when they return.
@Nashmiahone
@Nashmiahone Ай бұрын
why should they other Arab countries take the Palatinians???,,their land is the occupied land that Israel stolen...This is a question to divert from speaking and admitting that Israel is an Occupying power.
@ryansweeney1661
@ryansweeney1661 Ай бұрын
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries Ай бұрын
I just heard pure and simple racism.
@theodoraanagor6219
@theodoraanagor6219 Ай бұрын
Because Arab is a culture not an ethnicity and they were there first.
@Nashmiahone
@Nashmiahone Ай бұрын
@charismahornum-fries691 nothing to do with rascim , .ur.missing the point.
@RA-oi4ml
@RA-oi4ml Ай бұрын
Well done to the woman that called in yes a 1 state is whats needed
@savagedriver1967
@savagedriver1967 Ай бұрын
So how would that work exactly?
@pallascat1743
@pallascat1743 Ай бұрын
​@savagedriver1967 By Palestinian's and Israeli's having equal rights. That could be a start.
@tracyhuddlestun2560
@tracyhuddlestun2560 Ай бұрын
Getting rid of theocracy would be a great start.
@savagedriver1967
@savagedriver1967 Ай бұрын
@@pallascat1743 but that's never going to happen, and is probably not desired by most people on both sides.
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
@@savagedriver1967 The exact same was said about civil rights for black & white people. Or women's sufferage. Just because something seems unlikely, doesn't mean its a bad thing or that it actually is.
@redwan123456
@redwan123456 Ай бұрын
So does the school stop students bringing kosher food in for packed lunch?
@zephyrmd-4437
@zephyrmd-4437 Ай бұрын
Kids need to get used to knowing that the school is a safe place for free thinking and anything with semblance of religion can be done outside it: their homes and places of worship. The secular school has a set of rules which are clear, so any religious ritual can always wait. This wouldn’t alter their trajectory towards their religious devotion. This student at the centre of this all is simply a trouble maker or they are testing the waters as this is absolutely ridiculous to discuss
@mickreaddin4979
@mickreaddin4979 Ай бұрын
Interesting how James now finds himself in the same category as Corbyn in relation to the condemnation of the Israeli government actions towards Gaza and the people of Palestine, and we all remember James' description of Corbyn for HIS criticism of the Israeli government.
@teachernisrinezenati5488
@teachernisrinezenati5488 Ай бұрын
I love Barbara’s approach to the issue.
@rayg4360
@rayg4360 Ай бұрын
Expel them, they can go to another school
@maryl8753
@maryl8753 Ай бұрын
James, stop using the Holocaust the justify or explain the psychology of these people. Its sickening that AFTER what they have gone through they do this to others. Cant listen to your show if your going to be an apologist for these people . Its manipulation of the highest degree to keep using the Holocaust in this fashion. It's like excusing the Moors murderer because he had a rough early life etc etc. Still had to face justice for what he did
@anwarchowdhury1104
@anwarchowdhury1104 Ай бұрын
People have different beliefs, some believe in praying and some do not believe in praying. Secularism was supposed to be religion-independent in the sense that it will not allow religious teachings to influence the school curriculum or allow imposition of religious-values in schools. But now what we are talking about freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and freedom of thought. Are we saying that if a person believes in praying that they are not allowed to practice their beliefs? I don't agree with it, but I understand the argument that schools do not have to provide a prayer room and I had this rule when I attended college, but the what ALL students were allowed to do was use or book a room for any purpose, as long as it was not illegal, and people would book rooms for meetings, for homework, for debate, etc. If someone wants, not a prayer room, but want to be able to pray, what is the issue? The Equality Act protects religious beliefs and does not allow discrimination against a person over their religious beliefs. Are we seriously going to have a situation where wearing a crucifix, or hijab, or praying, in public is illegal, as it is in some countries, like Turkey? Are we going to hunt down a student and exclude them from school, because we find them secretly praying somewhere, because praying offends certain people? I am personally against people making a point of praying on public roads or trains, but living in an apparently free country that allows freedoms of expression, speech or though, how can one justify excluding people and banning them from expressing their religious vies or practicing their religion. Iran is an Islamic country with a written constitution, based on Quran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), which there was a referendum on. Under this constitution all religious minorities are allowed to practice their religion, and they are all represented in politics, but nobody can impose their religion on another. A marriage under Christian or Jewish rules, for example, are accepted as legitimate and do not have to be performed according to Islamic rules. Yet in a society that claims to be a Democracy and that promotes it by wars, and goes on about freedom of speech, expression, and thought, they now want to prevent students from practicing their religion. The solution is for students to attend non-secular schools, but there is also a campaign by secular politicians to ban even religious based schools. The final point is that, yes, students do not have the right to pray however they want to, but the school is not talking about the way the students are praying, but they want a complete blanket ban on praying. If the school allowed the student to go and pray privately in a room, not a prayer room, then I could support the school in not allowing prayer in the playground, but I do find it extreme to stop students from praying outside, as long as they are not forcing other students to pray.
@momoreton08
@momoreton08 Ай бұрын
Try making peace with all your neighbours.
@Azam001
@Azam001 Ай бұрын
Firstly!! The world needs more people like Barbara, perfectly put! Second, I'm confused about rhe whole Jewish people need a homeland! Therefore they should have a right to land because or there religion! I am a Muslim that does not mean I have an automatic right to land in Saudi Arabia! I was born in England jusy because I am a Muslim it doesn't give me a right to land anywhere else because of this!! Lastly as a Muslim with children of I want my kids to practise religion in school I would send them to a Muslim school!! Prayers can be done anywhere and often there are times when prayers can me made up! It is a secular school.. the parents who sent children there were fully aware of this before. So if a child continues to ignore the rules treat them like they were breaking any othere rule. Detentions, exclusions, and then expel of required. It's that simple!!
@zampano8217
@zampano8217 Ай бұрын
Look out lads, the Hasbara bots are out in force
@momoreton08
@momoreton08 Ай бұрын
What's a Hasbara bot? Genuine question
@automaticcaptions
@automaticcaptions Ай бұрын
@@momoreton08 pro israel bots who dont like facts over feelings
@backupaccount2394
@backupaccount2394 Ай бұрын
@@momoreton08 Israel has spent billions of dollars on PR campaigns to try and shift global opinion on Israel. A big part of this is social media bots, which give the image that a lot of regular folk are in support of Israel, in a bid to try and influence others to think the same
@backupaccount2394
@backupaccount2394 Ай бұрын
Israel have spent billions on PR campaigns to improve Israel’s image. Part of this is social media bots which give the impression that the regular folk and in support of Israel, in a bid to convince others to think the same
@backupaccount2394
@backupaccount2394 Ай бұрын
@@momoreton08they also have algorithms to delete anti-Israel comments, several of my comments even on this video have got deleted straight away
@cwkronenberg9838
@cwkronenberg9838 Ай бұрын
How precisely do you steal peoples' homes and lands and drive them into exile "in a more equitable way" James? Please tell.
@ViSongs482
@ViSongs482 Ай бұрын
Some days he just doesn't let his callers speak. I like the show, but that is so frustrating when he asks a questions, and refuses to let the caller answer within 3 words, and then interrupts mid sentence because he wants to include some tangent.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 Ай бұрын
I am an agnostic but am troubled by the idea of a secular school preventing a student from praying.
@benfoley8174
@benfoley8174 Ай бұрын
Really?
@NextChapterRapper
@NextChapterRapper Ай бұрын
That sounds bizarre indeed.
@savagedriver1967
@savagedriver1967 Ай бұрын
Why? They have rules, if you don't like them choose anther school.
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 Ай бұрын
@@savagedriver1967 Some rules are silly. But I would also like to know how far they go in enforcing secularism.
@SPEngland
@SPEngland Ай бұрын
​@@savagedriver1967what if this is their local school and therefore do not qualify for another?
@principlemethods5281
@principlemethods5281 Ай бұрын
It is anti reliaious. A-religious wouldn’t ban u from praying but would ban u from preaching or the classroom to get involved in religion.
@robertfmorton
@robertfmorton Ай бұрын
Yes but anti-israel is not anti-semitic. And btw. Nice that JOB acknowledges the distinction. Maybe he should remember his involvement in the weaponisation of anti-semitism against Corbyn.
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 Ай бұрын
The same could be said for people of colour or LGBT too. Israel’s exceptionalism is the problem here, that’s how things have got this bad. Making excuses for its actions will not help his control in the long term.
@Makaan_Dad
@Makaan_Dad Ай бұрын
Well done Barbara 😊
@justj8565
@justj8565 Ай бұрын
No school in the UK is secular as schools are required to have teaching of Christianity in the curriculum.
@redwan123456
@redwan123456 Ай бұрын
You can't say post old testament history and discount the non european Jews who did live in peace and without fear of their neighbour. In Jewish recent history it has been the Christians (crusaders) who have persecuted the Jews.
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 Ай бұрын
Is collective trauma a replacement for antisemitism?
@keirmitchell5560
@keirmitchell5560 Ай бұрын
Great decision by the Judge.
@markcontini5396
@markcontini5396 Ай бұрын
Fear for your own safety has never been a justification for harming other innocents; it's textbook cowardice.
@TVeldhorst
@TVeldhorst Ай бұрын
Cowardice does not seem the right word, you mean to say self preservation maybe? Acting towards ones own interest to any cost. Its egotism.
@mikemorenilla7444
@mikemorenilla7444 Ай бұрын
lol the lady at 1:07:20 who thinks the imams don't want this student doing this. Who do you think put her up to it?
@walter3433
@walter3433 Ай бұрын
Boohoohoo. Schools should be secular anyway
@FactsCanHurt
@FactsCanHurt Ай бұрын
Then get rid of Christmas, Easter, every religious aspect... that's what secular means.
@christopherdresser6598
@christopherdresser6598 Ай бұрын
@@FactsCanHurt santa claus and easter bunny are not religious
@alwhyte6533
@alwhyte6533 Ай бұрын
@@christopherdresser6598 I don't think that is what was meant?
@rafiquekhan1284
@rafiquekhan1284 Ай бұрын
Oh boy, here again, victim card, victim card ohh no.
@Sharon-zi1xn
@Sharon-zi1xn Ай бұрын
Easily answered, suspension first time with a warning, then expelled, that teacher will NOT stand no messing about!!!
@sallyshore-dz8rn
@sallyshore-dz8rn Ай бұрын
Avi with his British accent is truly Mediterranean hey. By taking Palestinian homes, he owns land for pittance. Is it not just an investment move for most new israelis? Imagine a country open for the taking, you just have to be remotely Jewish.
@Lauraukt85
@Lauraukt85 Ай бұрын
Omg - so delusional @ caller 46.09 mins
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 Ай бұрын
Netanyahu should step down and stop looking after his own interest. He should think about what best for Israel!
@SirAdamKenna
@SirAdamKenna Ай бұрын
I bet the people making antisemitic comments were also making islamaphobic comments.
@hughiemg2
@hughiemg2 Ай бұрын
Barbaras outlook should be a lesson to all of us.
@SMentor568
@SMentor568 Ай бұрын
A simplistic question that doesn't take in the regional dynamics and is another thinly vieled attack on Israel and Jews.
@PerriBelcourt
@PerriBelcourt 15 күн бұрын
Russia has over one hundred different people in Russia
@nawtec4970
@nawtec4970 Ай бұрын
The true jews knows God's retribution
@conalcorbally3001
@conalcorbally3001 Ай бұрын
If maintaining security was so important to Israel, why have they been choosing to expand on illegally occupied territory? Hard to have both.
@TableTopTransformer
@TableTopTransformer Ай бұрын
Doesn't the head appear on gbnews a lot?
@sharonsmith1783
@sharonsmith1783 Ай бұрын
Forming a coalition will not give participating nations more influence over this madness. It will become an 'in for a penny, in for a pound ' situation followed by 'might as well be hung for a sheep, as a lamb'.
@rychei5393
@rychei5393 Ай бұрын
It's not ONE kid saying prayer... it became a united group activity.
@mpatm2607
@mpatm2607 Ай бұрын
Actions have consequences.
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 Ай бұрын
Generational trauma, is the replacement word instead of antisemitism! But the thing is, there is trauma on both side. Israel and its population have committed generation trauma on the people of Gaza!
@Durka-Durka01
@Durka-Durka01 Ай бұрын
Durka, durka!!!
@soniad3241
@soniad3241 Ай бұрын
All people in Israel should have equal rights and be treated with dignity.
@vickylovesss7
@vickylovesss7 Ай бұрын
In terms of the vegetarian argument I think the point is about labelling and how people have changed ideas on labelling themselves or being labelled. The loudest voices are always the ones that are heard
@shanewilson2484
@shanewilson2484 Ай бұрын
The issue here was group prayer ... not individual prayer .. the agitators wanted group prayer ... but James doesn't know these facts
@songscoops4205
@songscoops4205 Ай бұрын
Masada is a symbol of Israel's staunch determination to remain free....
@Khalkara
@Khalkara Ай бұрын
"We should have attacked immediately. We should project strength" Followed by.. "You can _argue_ that we're warmongers.." He 100% thinks that his warmongering is justified. This man is just a fash.
@alimccheyne1320
@alimccheyne1320 Ай бұрын
Was that caller at the start Eylon Levy?
@carnivaltym
@carnivaltym Ай бұрын
Did I hear you'd confused Kirk Douglas and Charlton Heston? 😂😂😂
@katemcbride8715
@katemcbride8715 Ай бұрын
I want Netanyahu to step down, for new elections to take place in the face of the current situation.
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