Great job on this! Not only do I agree with your conclusions on giving I really appreciate you walking through an analysis of the reasons people offer for saying that tithing is required of us. That’s really helpful for people learning to think through issues biblically.

Crying at 44:00. I watched this for answers and I got them. My home at this time is hurting financially. We haven't been able to tithe 10% or we would start losing things like cars and houses. I've had church people pressure through sermons and other ways to give 10% no matter what. My house needs a huge list of repairs that I don't know how to fix including a roof and a ceiling in one room. I've told God everything is His and He can have it. I truly trust He will provide but being the husband and sole provider of my family and not be able to pay for everything and not meeting the "tithe requirement" is heavy. Hearing this is such a blessing. Thanks Josh for all you do!

This could be the best teaching I have ever heard on giving and tithing...thanks for doing this!

Great Video! These are definitely topics that need to be addressed more in the local church. It’s very surprising how set in stone these teachings on tithe have become with little or no study into the contextual application of the scripture used to enforce the modern tithe.

Many pastors who preach tithing hard don’t have faith that God will supply if people don’t tithe. It can be a lack of faith.

Insightful, balanced and well thought out, as always. Especially loved the testimony portion of this livestream. God's so awesome! Appreciate the work you guys do. May God continue to bless it 😉

Very well done! Thank you so very much for covering this topic. It helped me out a lot.

Old Testament tithing was equal to a tax to support the priesthood. Remember that Israel was a theocracy at that time. We do not live under a theocracy, therefore giving should come from ones heart and as he is able to give.

VERY WELL DONE SIR!!! It is so necessary that we clean up the bad and corrupted doctrines that have created the Revelation 3 church of Laodecia in these last days. I have been doing just that by the leading of the Holy Spirit for several years now and you have now made the playlist for Bible study night at my home group. I totally got the spirit you were teaching from was pure in heart and that's what Jesus wants. Honesty, Integrity and Sincerity!!!

There are several problems with the assertion that "tithes were established before the law." One would first have to ask who was it that "established" Abram's tithe since there's no biblical evidence it was required by God. However there is historical evidence that it was customary to submit a portion of the spoils of war to the ruler(s) of that land. Abram's submission to Melchizedek, the King of Salem, involved an exchange for food and wine and Abram gave away all of the spoils of war, declaring he would accept no profit from that event. There's no biblical evidence Abraham ever tithed again. Subsequently, Jacob made a contingent offer to tithe IF God provided for him (although there's no biblical evidence Jacob ever tithed). He would be wrong in doing so if tithing was required by God at that time or prior. Asserting that the "tithe is explained by the law" is problematic in that there's no relation or reference to Abram's tithe by Moses and only produce and livestock from within the Holy Land were accepted as a tithe item under Mosaic Law. The explanation for tithes under Mosaic Law is simply taxation and support for the Old Covenant system of atonement. Tithes were compulsory "payments," not gifts, and were facilitated through ceremonial and civil ordinances that are now obsolete under the New Covenant. Asserting that "the tithe is affirmed by Christ" is problematic because Jesus was chastising the Pharisees, not commending them in Mathew 23:23. Notice that tithes were defined as "mint, dill, and cumin", not money. Again, tithes were only received as produce and livestock from within the Holy Land. This ordinance was in effect during the life of Jesus. Also, Jesus indirectly classified tithes as a "lessor part of the law" which separates it from ongoing moral, spiritual law. There's also no biblical evidence that Jesus ever tithed, received a tithe, or left any instructions how anyone would tithe after his resurrection. Malachi 3:6-12 is specifically directed at the Levitical Priests and cannot be universally applied historically or currently. Read the whole book. In Malachi 1:6 and then, more directly in Malachi 2:1, the Priests are specifically addressed. That focus isn't changed in chapter 3. The tithe indictments mentioned in chapter 3 didn't apply to all of Israel, anywhere outside Israel, and not towards anyone today. It was the Priests that would bring tithes (no money) collected from the Levitical cities to the temple storehouse. Only Levites could have access to the inner parts of the temple, not all of Israel. The "windows of heaven" is a simple reference to rain, not money and the reference to "food in my house" is literal, not a metaphor for spiritual teaching. Mathew 5 makes no reference to tithing. Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant law, the Old Covenant sacrificial system of atonement. Tithes were carried out through civil and ceremonial statutes and ordinances that (partially) supported the Old Covenant system of atonement. Those ordinances are obsolete, as is the Old covenant system of atonement. Giving is a separate issue and we are free to give without limits, without a set minimum, money or otherwise, as we are able and as we are lead. But we are not biblically bound to tithe money to any religious institution (or anywhere) else and there is no biblical curse for not doing so. Blessings in your giving. We are encouraged to do so, not encumbered.

I like that, what you just said. Keep up the good work. 😊

It's not about Tithe, but we give to the Lord because we love Him and we appreciate His blessings toward us.

Tithing as taught in the present day church is nothing like the tithe required through the law in the OT. What is taught and expected today is a system of revenue raising unsupported by either Old or New Testaments. The majority of the OT tithe did not go to financing of the priesthood, the temple or any religious system. When was the last time your church taught that you needed to take your tithe to Jerusalem and use it to pay for a big party in the presence of the Lord? (See Deut 14)

Absolutely love this clip. And totally agree. I've done studies on tithing and there are so many ways that people tithe in biblical days and most of it was with crops and animals. Everything that you said is SO on point. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this clip. I know that tithing was something that was culturally done for the children of Israel and I also know that God loves a cheerful Giver

Wonderful job. This is PERFECT!!!!! I've been saying this for years.

The devourer were locusts killing the crops and the abundant blessing was rain. (Malachi 3:8-10)

Dude. I love you josh! Thank you for your heart to teach God’s ppl!

You did a good job here Josh

I spent about 2 years attending a church that had to raise the issue of money, giving, and tithing at every. single. service. I could no longer take it. It was breaking me and I had to leave. I loved the people, but there was no way to get away from the guilt inducing preaching. If a church is doing that to you, I would urge you to get out before they cause you to lose your faith. It will break your spirit. They will grieve you over and over. No matter how loving they are otherwise, this false teaching and guilt inducing will destroy you if you stay.

Yes Lord help us give sacrificially. To love You and others as You would have us Lord.

Excellent job on this topic!

The short answer - no. The long answer NNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!

So good. Thank you for your humble sharing of his word.

Good content. Thanks Josh.

Thank you so very much 😊🙏! Learning a lot from your chanel!

In Deuteronomy 14:22-26 explains that the people eat their own tithe in the 1st 2 years and give to the Levites on the 3rd yr. of harvest. On the 7th year no one plants or gives but eats whatever grows. There is no equivalent in our non agricultural times to their form of giving.

Here is something I have been thinking about lately. Is giving your “tithe” to the church, who then decides how the funds will be distributed a more hands off way of giving? I assume there would be less impact on the giver since they simply write a check and have no idea where it goes or how it is being used. It seems to be impersonal in comparison to other options. If that assumption is true would it be more fruitful to give our monetary gifts (tithe) in a more direct way to those who will receive it (giving to the poor, shelters, neighbors in need)? I assume this would be a more personal way of giving, being able to truly see how God is blessing others. It seems that the current model of “tithe” in the church attaches strings to our gift that are tied to us getting a return. If we gave our tithe directly, is it possible for us to see God blessing others and that example of grace ultimately bless us as well? I’m interested to hear y’all’s thoughts.

Well done. A tricky topic honestly tackled. But I suspect the tithe tradition persists more by cultural influence than theology. Here in UK, the Established Church levied tithes for the support of its rectors until their abolition (by Act of Parliament) in 1836. Most of today’s ‘bible-believing’ churches would teach tithing in some form. The minority ethnic ones are particularly interesting. The pastor may assume a social role traditionally occupied by a tribal chief. Any tithe-funded disparity in standard of living may pass with little comment. This compares with Protestantism’s historic tendency to endorse only modest prosperity - which gets reflected into clergy salaries. It earns criticisms of pastors getting rich at their members’ expense. Where did the ‘blessing’ of Malachi get ‘spiritualised’? I couldn’t find any Church Fathers who started the trend, not even Origen (with his love of allegorisation). But Augustine (City of God 20.28, 35) comments by admitting that in temporal material terms, the unrighteous may prosper equally to or more than the righteous. But God’s ‘scroll’ will properly reveal those who should be ‘spared’, which Augustine equates with the blessing of the New Testament. I loved your neat cross-example of levirate marriage. And your interpretation of Paul as a latter-day Levite. The formula is: New Covenant leads to a new temple leads to a new priesthood leads to new subsistence arrangements. The Acts 2 and Acts 4 community embodied the Old Covenant Jubilee. I should think that the widow of Luke 21 found her way into it. And the New Testament’s emphasis on hospitality may well provide an answer to church members who handle very monetary income but wish to share. The Old Covenant tithe embraced the poor, and I think we can see this in the Galatians 2 (and elsewhere) apostolic concern. So, when we have Paul teaching proportional giving (in 1 Cor 16, and 2 Cor 8 & 9) for his Jerusalem fund-raising project, he stands in a good tradition. Isn’t it infuriating that the New Testament doesn’t spell out how the local church ‘kept the lights on’? Meanwhile, today’s churches seem to prefer the comforting analgesic certainties of 10% over the challenging hard work of exploring Kingdom of God economics.

It seems when God blesses it come as more work ;) And I receive it.

This was so gooooooooood thank you!

Great video. Tithing is a wonderful blessing but God doesn’t have some stiff rule. The principle from the law is that as followers of Jesus, we become generous. That might mean much more than a tithe; the early Christians gave away everything routinely. But we don’t live under the law any more. That being said, tithing is a blessing and it’s a great place to start being generous. And the best place to learn generosity is when it is a challenge (the story of the woman who gave two mites at the temple). But, if you don’t tithe, there is no reason to have guilt. That’s not the way Jesus works.

Good job! I thought I'd heard everything I needed to know about tithes but I learned some things. CA is insane, I can't afford my own place here. Yes, I'd like to here Miller's advice on stewardship and money.

The question about the widows mite is partly right I think. We see her giving contrasted by Christ's statement right afterwards about the religious leaders "devouring widows houses." I think while Jesus was admiring her generosity he was not happy that she had been left in the situation that she was. She should not have been left in the position that 2 mites was all she had.

Awesome teaching

What a great topic

Excellent. Thank you

Interesting fact of the church that I went to. They would highly preach that the tribulation is for Jacobs trouble or for Israel only. But in Malachi chapter 3 it clearly says the same thing. It was written to ISRAEL. But they would try to prove the pretrib rapture and be very firm that Daniel’s 70th week is for Israel not the Church. But again Malachi is talking to ISRAEL 🇮🇱

1. The tithe in the Old Testament and in Jesus' day was a tax collected by the priests. It was NOT voluntary. The Law made provision for voluntary gifts beyond the tithe tax. Malachi tells the people of his day that neglecting to tithe is to "rob God." 2. There were multiple tithes. OT tithing was about 30% of one's income when multi-year tithes are factored in. 3. Tithing teachers today claim that tithe is 10%, voluntary, and never condemn non-tithers with a curse if it is not paid. 4. Most importantly, after Pentecost, while the rest of the NT discusses giving at length, NOWHERE is the tithe mentioned. The only reference to tithing after Pentecost is in Hebrews, and it's about Abraham tithing to Melchizedek. It is NEVER taught in Acts or the Epistles as a Christian duty. 5. Tithing has always degenerated into legalism. Do I tithe on gross or net income? Where is the tithe to be paid? Does my time count as a tithe? Do I tithe before or after taxes? How should that OT 30% tithe be distributed? If we are freed from the burden of kosher laws, Sabbath, and circumcision, it's hard to imagine that the tithe (the source of more legalism than the previous three) would still be binding. 6. Judge righteously: A multi-millionaire gives 10% to his church. A blind, disabled veteran living in a trailer on $700 a month gives $50 a month to his church. Who is the sacrificial giver? Who would Jesus laud? Who would Jesus criticize?

I pay tithe and give everything else because I love the Lord and trust Him. Missionaries and the church use that money for the rest of the body. Did we have to spend 100 percent of our money on ourselves, drinking, getting high, and impressing women before Jesus? No, but we loved doing it. The question exposes a person’s heart. Jesus loves people and God. He said to love your neighbor as yourself. If I was a sinner I would want to have people fighting with everything they have to save me and feed me and clothe me and give me an eternal home. We’re supposed to be above the law. We don’t need the law. God’s law is a law of faith, hope and love. Why do we try to protect our money. The only answer you need is do you love and trust God? Read about the widow and Elijah. That woman was going to eat her last meal with her child and die but when Elijah asked for her to make him a little first and she did. She not only did the most amazing things but she could have gone and stolen or sold herself sexually to make money but loved God and Elijah and God blessed her. We want to see Acts but don’t want to walk like those men and women. We want heavenly gifts but we can’t be trusted to love with the little earthly gifts we have. Just love God and people. Everything we have is God’s. Right? Can we trust Him?

There are other factors to consider. Pastor positions are now a career. Mega churches pay their pastors very well on top of the books and music they push. Many pastors get special benefits from those who attend. I know one who has benefited from flipping homes through money lender from church friends. What about the 6- 10 billion Covid relief funds the churches received. I believe we are called to be a generous people but not necessarily to an organization.

Pastorally, I always respond to the question, "Do I have to give 10% of my gross income to the church?" by encouraging people that they are maybe asking the wrong question. I suggest that it is like when a kid in the youth group used to ask me, "How far (sexually) is too far with my girlfriend/boyfriend?" It's the wrong question. It isn't addressing the heart. While the simple answer to the question, "Must I tithe?" is no. I think there is an opportunity to have a deeper conversation, which explores the heart and intent of giving. There is a clear connection between Malachi 3:10 & 2 Cor 9:10,11 in terms of God blessing us so that there is enough supply for our needs and also the needs of others that we are providing for through our giving. You did a great job on this, Josh.

Very good expose. People need to stop just blindly accepting and believing what their pastors or tithe teachers are teaching them about the 10%. Nowhere in the old or new covenants does God command a monetary tithe from anyone. There is no such teaching in the Bible. Pastors who teach a monetary tithe of 10% of their incomes to the Church is teaching heresy and contrary to the Word of God. Israel's commanded tithe (Lev 27:30-34; Num 18:20-28) ended at the cross. The Levitical priesthood which was inseparable from tithes ended because the priesthood was imperfect, and like the Law was abolished (Heb 7:11-12). The tithe commandment for Israel (Num 18:20-21; Heb 7:5) was abolished because it was weak and unprofitable (Heb 7:18-19). And He never replaced the Old Covenant Law of Moses tithe ordinance by giving a monetary commanded tithe of 10%. It is a lie that was perpetrated on the New Covenant Church as far back as AD 777. Today it has reached scandalous levels in the churches and has caused many to walk away from Jesus Christ because they are told they are cursed and they are robbing God. Many have lost their salvation because deceitful pastors and tithe teachers have pressured their congregations under the lie of being cursed and robbing God. People need to read 2 Cor 8:12-13 and 2 Timothy 5:8 and see what God through apostle Paul is saying to the believers about giving. Not even God will force any child of His to give if they don't have anything to give. Whereas pastors will pressurize the members to give their household money under guilt. But God says differently in these 2 scriptures above. Don't be deceived by smooth talking tithe teachers. Follow God's Word and what He says. I do and God blesses.

That is why I haven’t plugged into a church. 10 % is always a good Christian requirement. As divorced woman (not my choice) I was a stay at home mom before. Now I don’t think I can retire, and I am so happy to help my loved ones and help a little with poor.

Having been a Mission worker who often had to go to conferences to raise a greater mailing list to ask people to give, I can testify that the teaching on tithing actually hinders the work of God globally. I'd often hear from well meaning people that they tithe to their local church and if their church could give to our mission. These comments were from sincere Christians who loved the work of our mission and wanted the monthly newsletter and would pray. The irony was, most of our support came from small regular gifts I never missed a week in salary. The problem with local churches is they ask for money weekly and use tithing to get the money.. regardless of what the needs are. Supporting paid pastors and staffers is fine,(Galatians 6) but thinking the money goes via their is a "remnant" of Malachi "storehouse" mentality.. George Mueller never asked for money

No Christian Don't Have To Tithe!!! Plus It's Impossible For Them To Do So.

2,000 years ago - we did not have human governments that provided welfare to those in need. How much of old and New Testament teaching surrounding the tithe had to do with caring for the poor and needy (widows and orphans)? Trying to understand the modern American version of Christianity where we have hundreds of thousands of church building projects, and a large chunk of some church’s budgets are used to pay for sound systems, light shows, marketing, music program fees, etc. I do believe we should give as God leads, and we should support our local church. I just think it’s a difficult thing in today’s society to draw a direct line of reasoning to old and New Testament examples of the tithe.

Thanks Josh! This was the clearest argument on this subject that I have heard this far!

I felt like I should give 10 percent, me and my husband, we have been given so much. But a new Pastor was ranting about this as a command and it didn't sit right with me. My husband totally agrees with the pastor.

Good 👍 😊

Very well done. I did get a little lost when you mentioned that it was okay for a church to "ask" for 10% of one's income but not "require" it. There is no scriptural precedent for that amount since the tithe was always food. I found that part a smidge contradictory but overall another great episode!

I'm curious your thoughts on the local church itself tithing? I'm on our church board, and it's something we seek to do by sending money to various other ministries. But would you think the ideas you explain for individuals/families also apply to the church?

Problem is, when someone is taught that tithing is not required, thus gives them a license to not give at all, or giving little. This is especially true in westernized religion. What a cop out. The church has to have money to do the work of Christ. I will continue to tithe because it is what I feel is right.

Giving can be anything, not just money. Giving shows more about the condition of your heart. Monetary Tithing nowdays is made up lie by the church to get fear money from people to pay bills. Tithing in churches is like a membership fee or tax to the church. Monetary tithing is a set amount (10%) but giving can be anything.

The Tithe was a drinking fest... And yes...it's wine..not fermented grape juice. Deu 14:26 - And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, Edit. The reference above to money might lead someone to believe the Tithe was income. It was agriculture products only, but could be converted to money if it was a difficulty to transport it to the Tabernacle/Temple.

FLet's talk about what the Apostle Paul says about Tithing. Actually doesn't mention it.I fingers it interesting if TheTithing system was so important Why did Paul never mention it. He certainly talks about giving but never in the context of Tithing. He does talk about setting something aside regularly for offerings. HE makes it very plain one should give according to whats in ones heart. Being led be the Spirit. He makes it plain not to give out of compulsion. The famous scripture the Most Church's use is Malachi 3 Will a Man rob God. It says bring all the Tithes into the Storehouse so there will be meat in my House. That Scripture would leave one to believe there were Tithes collected that weren't making it to the Storehouse . This Scripture refers to the Levitical Priest they were robbing God. Not the congregation. So the way its presented today and it's very effective. I mean if they can convince the Congregation if they don't pay up there Robbing God will be Cursed and the Devil will be on their Butt. So they are certainly giving by compulsion which what Apostle Paul plainy spoke against. Also most people won't give beyond that because they in their mind cover their Ass. Compared to a true Spirit filled believer that's led but he Spirt is free from economic insecurity. Will gladly give to God's Work. How many scriptures talk about giving to the Poor..And if one does so how they will be blessed. You will never hear that preached because the Church doesn't want your money going outside their Church. All in All I think a Spirit filled believer will give much more than just 10% and they will don't gladly.

? This isn't really a question, it's more of a comment, but if you want to comment on it, great! Under grace (New testament), the requirements increase. In the Old testament one day was God's, whereas in the New testament, Paul said we live every day unto the Lord. Under the Old testament law, 10% (or some people say 33 and a third) are Gods. Under grace, 100% is His because we're living sacrifices. So maybe we better pray about how much of the 100% that is His, can we keep for ourselves! A lot of pastors don't bother to teach the people how to hear from God. It's just easier to tell them they're under a curse if they don't give 10%.. I consider that abusive. I give as I'm led. Out of curiosity, I checked and, sure enough, it ended up to be 20%, on a regular basis, just being led by the spirit to give when He leads me to. Pastors: teach your people how to develop a sensitive ear and how to walk in the spirit, rather than reverting to dead legalism.

26:00 Cutting of of hands for stealing is not in the Bible!

17:27 saying that because Abraham gave 10% to the righteous king and 90% to the unrighteous doesn't affirm tithes isn't an argument against tithing and yes we only have record Abraham giving once in his life not every week (that's a better argument). Christian's who do tithe give 90% to the world and to support wicked rulers.

Respectfully, I hear over and over from many that God’s vehicle is the local church. Where is that specifically in the NT model? I want to obey.

Any recommendations for a good church in Metro Richmond Va?

If you attend to two or more church, do you give to both? Do you first establish your local church?

Some of your arguments have some holes, needing pushback. What is a proper way to do so?

Titling is about giving back to Yeshua. It’s not about the church, people or us. When the lord puts it upon our heart to give to others, we should be obedient to the his word.

Although I disagree (in part), I think we might end up in the same place in practice. Jesus said not a jot or tittle would pass away from the law till all be fulfilled(Matthew 5). All of the law is fulfilled by Christ. There are three different ways he fulfills it. Some he fulfilled apart from us, some he fulfills in us, and some he fulfills through us. Notice in Romans 8:4 how we are involved in fulfilling the law, "in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." This doesn't mean that we adhere to the letter of the law from the OT, but in some way we must adhere to the spirit of it. Part of the picture is that in Acts 15, they gave only 3 requirements for the gentile believers to diligently adhere to. That may show a radical shift away from the law, and it's true, because the new covenant says that he will write his laws on our hearts. But I think that the letter of the law can come in at times to show where we're off base, where we're sinning. Paul quotes from the law and issues commandments for the believers. Such as, children should honor their parents (Ephesians 6:2). So why, on the one hand, is the new covenant so free and light in terms of commandments? And on the other hand, that we are to fulfill the law's righteous requirement and not a jot or tittle will pass away? Yes, we are not under the law, but it can still show us where we're in sin. (1 Timothy 1:8-9 says the law is meant for the sinners.) Paul says that all scripture is useful for correction. Don't we need it sometimes to know where we're falling short? I think yes. We're supposed to walk in such a way that the law is fulfilled, even if it be the spiritual application of the law, not the fleshly, such as circumcision(in our case, we have circumcision of the heart). It needs to be fulfilled, "that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us." We must walk in some way that actually fulfills it. Not by the letter, but by the Spirit. So what is the use of the letter? In Romans chapter 7, Paul says he wouldn't have known sin apart from the law. Yes, "the letter kills, and the spirit gives life." And we are to give from the heart, cheerfully, not under compulsion. But what if we are not giving generously? Could it be that we are indeed sinning? At least grant me that hypothetically. If that is the case, then the old testament tithe law could bring knowledge of sin. What if 10 percent is a kind of target or base level of generosity? If that is the case, and we saw that we were sinning, as those under grace we could turn to the grace of Christ for the freedom to give generously. Wouldn't we use the law the same way with other things, such as murder and adultery? I guess you might place the tithe into the category of judicial law and therefore, it doesn't apply in the same way that murder and adultery does. Maybe so. But I also see that Jesus included generous giving with reward in heaven. Is it merely an extra, or is it part of being bought with a price? I tend to think it's for all believers, because of the strong statements Jesus makes about money and giving in the gospels. Notice how in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the rich man is condemned simply because he didn't give, not because he had robbed anyone. Just because something is a commandment doesn't mean we can't do it cheerfully. Or else, how would the new covenant be fulfilled, "he will write his laws on their hearts?" If we can't do those laws cheerfully, (whatever they may be), then those laws aren't written on our hearts. Is it a sin to not love our enemies? Is that optional? Or extra? And if it's a commandment, can we do it without compulsion? If it's only under compulsion, can we really say we're loving? We are calling tithe legalistic. Why? Is it because it's a specific number, 10 percent? I know it seems ritualistic to portion out 10 percent, but the thing is money is always something we portion out specifically. Whether in business, in stewardship, enjoyment, whatever the case may be. Can we do none of those things from the heart because we have to make the accounts balance? Where I think we might end up in the same place practically, is that believers have the law written in their hearts and end up giving generously anyway. And that you promote generous giving is good. But that doesn't mean at times we need the scriptures for the sake of correction. And maybe some need this correction more than others. Would you withhold it from those who need it because you are already giving generously and don't need it? What if they truly need it, to help them repent and turn to the life of generosity spoken of by Christ? I mean, the sheep and the goats parable(Matthew 25) should tell us enough to know that it's possible that heaven could be at stake. I believe that many will be the sheep who were generous while never needing the law to step in and correct them. But what about those who need it? On your example of raising up seed to your brother's widow, I think this would apply to the allotments of the promised land given to specific families from generation to generation. And also because the promise to Abraham was to his physical offspring. That through his seed the world would be blessed. The guy that failed in this task who the Lord killed, if memory serves me, failed to carry on the line that Christ came from. But as far as what the application of this law is for Christians, I'll have to think about a bit more. Applying the law is very much a case by case issue. The general rule is, how has Christ fulfilled it? Or how is he fulfilling it now? The sacrifice for sins he fulfilled apart from me 2000 years ago. That I should love my neighbor, he is fulfilling today in and through his people.

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Don't tithe to crappy ministers, that's for sure, but if you want to impress Jesus give your last dollar, not your first 10 out a 100.

Can you talk about the tax plus giving? Because in reality we pay taxes and then tithe. I’ve been taught that the taxes was the tithe.

Nice

All of this is settled in Hebrews 7. Read it thoroughly.

As usual, I agreed with, like, 95% of it. But who am I? I'm just some dude, lol The chat was great, had great discussions. Keep up the good work, TRR

NO !

Got to the point 5 mins in

The Protestant theology of faith alone, which is not Biblical, negates the Necessity of tithing! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink

Get to the point !!!

Can we please stop separating God's word. We serve one God and have one Bible. The Torah is still valid according to Christ so maybe we should pay attention to it better. “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah - not until everything that must happen has happened. So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. Mattityahu (Mat) 5:17‭-‬19

Jesus said that He did not come to abolish the law or the prophets in Matthew 5:17-20...Jesus says that those who keep His commands will be called great in heaven; while those who set aside His commands and teach others to do likewise will be called least in heaven...So yes we are to tithe.....Where in the NT does it ever say to stop tithing? I'll wait! People will say that Paul says that we should give according to our income.....but thats giving; not tithing. Tithing is the first tenth.....when we tithe were not giving God anything. Were just not stealing from Him. Its easy to see why Christians don't want to tithe...its because they love money. One could easily argue that the real god of the American Church today is money; which is idolatry; the very first Commandment. Yes we are to tithe and give offerings....Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these other things shall be added unto you.....When we are faithful with our tithes and offerings we are seeking first the Kingdom; and not the things of this world.

Yes, it was required before the law, during the law, and after the law.