ho-ley-shit... That explains THAT, seen someone firing like this and wondered how the heck they managed it.

So a buddy in my unit has been trying to make a 6 AC/2 build work on a Dire Wolf (or Dashi as he likes to call them) and I think you have just saved us hours of tweaking and theory crafting. This is so insane I might have to try as well. Awesome video dude please keep pumping out the mech porn. Side note: I'm sad you are not going to run timbers on your other account. I run them and was exited to see what a capable pilot like yourself could do with one. That said the sale is a sale, and 5 million in savings is huge so I can understand. Oh and I picked up my first Stormcrow because of how kick ass you make them look, I just need to remember they are not as tanky as my timber.

cool stuf nice enhancment to ac builds. keep up the quality work u do for us.

Very helpful and has given my King Crab new life thanks man

Try 6 AC 2

I was thinking about doing a full KE build on a light mech so this just saved me an age.

Trying to tweak a TBR dakka build (3 C-UAC/5) - any recommendations on settings? Keep running into weapon jams...

Hey, I just used AC2x3 on my CN9-AH(L): I got 5 kills, 3 assists, and 909 DMG. Thank you so much for this video! Works brilliantly-though I did need to tweak the fire rate.

To all the folks saying that using this macro is cheating: you can get the exact same results with the standard controls. Assign each gun to a group, then hold each group's fire button. Just delay slightly between starting the hold on each button. The guns can't fire any faster using a macro than they can using normal controls. Source: Used this method with three mouse buttons on my Victor in the old days.

having problems setting up my 4 uac2 hbk-iic. i used to have it set up and functional but after reinstalling mwo and fire control i can't figure it out again ugh :( i have my fire groups bound so 1 fires two er meds, 2 is blank, and 3,4,5,6 fire my uacs. my delay is 83 and the fire sequence is 3,4,5,6. it just comes out really slow though. i remember when i had it set up before i had it so ctrl would toggle my double tap of the uacs. i think this is change fire rate in the program, but hitting it doesn't do anything to my rate of fire anymore. i also tried just using normal, non-ultra uac 2s, setting my delay to 155 as shown in this vid and using the exact same fire controls and sequence... but it comes out suuuuper slow. i'm not sure what's wrong. anyone have some insights to offer? i'd really appreciate it.

I have to go to 2:10 every so often in order to maintain my sanity. I cannot live without seeing triple AC/2's firing every sixth of a second. Very helpful video by the way, thank you for enlightening us as to the existence of this software. o7

Great video. This is probably a stupid question but how are you bringing up the fire control window in game?

Holy shiet ! Need to try this Dakka mode with my King Crab full Ac/2 :D

+Kanajashi, is there somewhere I can find the recommended Fire Rate timings/intervals to use for the different ACs and UACs (including clan)?

That is hysterical!

So is there a macro to make tag, flamers, and machine guns into a toggle switch, instead of forcing me to hold to fire?

having trouble with my UAC5's Jamming...I have it set to 2,3,4,5 at about 160. However any higher or lower it still jams... What is the timing formula per UAC5?

I did this 6x on a jager DD back when they removed ghost heat on the AC2. SO MUCH FUN.

You can create this "minigun" without a macro for such a weapon setup - just fire the first three shots manually at the desired tempo and then hold down the fire button assigned to 3 guns at once, it will maintain that tempo. For example, assign a chainfire of three guns to the RMB, then do not hold the RMB, but quickly click 3 times to set the desired tempo, then immediately hold the LMB (to which you previously assigned fire from three guns, but without chainfire)

Do u equipped AC2 colddown module? I use a 6x AC2 build (without cd-module) on my King Crab but I didn't know that u can even with 3x AC2 fire without pause. Hope PGI will launch a module sale in the near future.

Thanks for the video! BUT! :)I've set everything the same way as shown. Still, after the fourth ac2 fires, there is a long pause before the next burst starts... What could be the problem? The same happens with 3 ac2s.

I do this on my King Crab. The 6 AC2's get a bit toasty, but the DPS is good, with or without the macro. Plus, people tend to run from that barrage to their faces. It pushes more DPS than the UAC5's too, but with a bit less burst.

I have 2 questions regarding macros with this: 1) If I right-click and it is bound to 3-4-5-6, and I only hold it long enough for 3-4 to go off, will it continue for 5-6, or will it stop at that point? If it stops, when I start it up again, will it start at 3 again, or will it start at 5 (where the last one stopped)? 2) If you have the TAG toggled, will it interfere with chat? So if I toggle 6 on, and then I hit my chat button, is it going to put "6666666666666" into my chat?

to all the people, it isn't a cheat. it should be firing at that speed in the first place just that they fucked up chain-fire. it would have been acceptable if you could just rapidly click and fire the next weapon in the group, but nope consistant .5 cooldown.

i have tried to set up firecontrol with out any success. followed your step by step set up for my 3 x uac/2 and its just not having it. any chance you could show pic's of each section of the set up including the ingame key bindings please , thanks

Also with the tag toggle in mind... has anyone thought of a sniper build with a gauss rifle with tag underneath, they cant say they didn't see it coming.

Yeah, I did this on my Mauler with 6 AC/2s a week after it came out before upgrading to 6 AC/5s. It was glorious.

I tried something different by useing 3 AC2 and putting them in different groups. First and second in group 1, in the second group i put the third AND the second. Now i have to hit 2 buttons, but i fire 2-1-2-1 and so on now. It´s faster than the normal chainfire and does not require external software to go with. Still required multiple mouse buttons, though.

Do you think PGI would change chain fire, just for AC-2s, so they fire as shown?

would you be able to put the link below for the download. i cant find it to download the fire control

The 0.5 second chain-fire timer existed before ghost heat.

I'm currently running this, alpha strike is better for damaging but this scares people so much that they sometimes won't come out.

Nice video covering the basics. I hope you don't mind, I embedded it at the end of the first post in the Fire Control thread on the MWO forums. It's so sad that some people still consider this cheating, when the fact of the matter is that if everyone were using chain fire, MWO would be a better game. When PGI implemented Ghost Heat, they were in effect trying to make people move from alpha to chain, because single point damage was a balance issue. But without a decent implementation for chain fire (Which FC sought to rectify), this was never going to work, plus the changes (At least as far as the AC2 was concerned) actually made things worse for chain fire (You could hit GH with 2xAC2 in chain, but not in alpha) Plus even when you forget about GH, alpha is just more efficient when playing peek-a-boo: With 4 weapons that shoot at a 1000ms rate, if you poke out and fire in chain, you have to expose yourself much longer (Instant 4 shots vs shoot, wait 250ms, shoot, wait 250ms...) to get all your shots off. If in full view of your target, the "face time" required to use chain just makes it fundamentally inferior to a mech that can shoot off all it's weapons, then twist off the damage to an arm while their weapons reload - you will be blazing away at his arm, while he reloads and then easily pops another alpha into your CT because you are holding your view steady and not presenting a moving target. So Kanajashi has it spot on - this is for Lulz only. It is not useful in competitive play. Any half-decent opponent will know how to counter chained ballistics.

Well, i tried it on the Shadowhawk (3x AC2) and BJ (2xAC2). I must admit, i feel a bit dirty about it. Sure, it's only chainfire and firing all at once isn't affected. But you definitely have a supressive advantage. It's a personal decision, if it really is not officially cheating, well, so be it. But, imagine a 6x AC2 build like this... oh boy. I like the perma- TAG, no Problem with that. You should be able to set it on toggle/hold in game anyway, imho. Keep up the great work and thanks, Kanajashi.

Mother of god. This is what I've been wanting. Though it would maybe be nice if I could run this through my Logitech G510. But anyway I'm using a quad AC5 mech so I need to try this out.

It's very useful video, tnx. But I wonder how you've made crosshair to change it's shape on hit?

awesome lol the rate of fire. You should do a short vid for the mech with the highest fire rate lol

I would guess that chainfire-ing the AC2 with the program and binding all the AC2 to the left click would result in the same DPS, right?

Hey... there is a Jump Jet spam feature added into that macro program?

This macro was probably developed when getting battered by ac's would cause more cockpit shake. I don't think it was purely done for aesthetics they were after a combat advantage.

I´m putting together a King Grab right now and I´ll love to see this working out with 4 or even 6 AC/2s.

It looks like fun but if you fire them together or with this chain-fire macro doesnt change anything in the end. The only reason for the slow chain-fire is to prevent the mech from overheating. :D

Need to try this stuff with my CTF-4X...

I've tried getting this to work for some time now. I set it up exactly like you. All it does is nothing. It only changes the highlighted weapon in the weapon group window. Whatever key I use, whatever weapon, whatever intervall, whatever settings... :(

Great video. how do you keep mechwarrior from reducing when you bring up the Fire Control? 4

hmmm been running around with my Twin ER PPC with 2 Machine guns on my UM-R60L I have good times with the ER PPC per shot of firing both get like 40% Heat Spike but funny when you hit them

Anyone have an AC 2, with 2 AC 5's macro? Been messing with it but its not working so well...

Heavy Direwolf Guy.

does this work with ultraz ac 5s ....and I am having trouble binding my right mouse button do you think you could help

Let's hope future Rac/2 will be like this :D

This will help with my 6 AC2 King Crab!

I'm getting this weird thing with mine. When I try to fire 3 AC2's with the macro it goes something like this. bang, bang, bang -slight pause bang, bang, bang. This happens regardless of what speed they're firing.

I'm amused how many people are too stuffed up to realize it's not an advantage to use macros. The only solid one ever is the UAC jam timing macro, that's it. You're not avoiding ghost heat if it's below the .5 seconds and guess what you could just rapidly click ANYWAY. I don't have a dire wolf and don't plan on one either. So this is largely not useful to me. There should be a separate disclaimer video with quoted proof from the forums about why specific uses are not cheating. Especially tag toggle and the proper chain fire.

Mack did this YEARS AGO on KZfaq before Ghost Heat! Jager DD 6 AC2 was the bomb!

FUEGOOOOOOO

when i install the macro norton finds it a risk and deletes the file is this download a risk?

I'm going to have to try this on one of my Jagers or maybe my BJ-1 Or my CYF-4X with 4 AC5s. I haven't run my Cataphracts in nearly a year I think.

will no longer be needed no that we have the rotary canons

Genius!

Like Cyril Figgis would say : SUUUPPPREESSING FIIIRRREEE!!! Interesting. I could optimize chain chain on my Hbk-4p and tag on 4j too.

If you ever do an updated release of this video please let people know that they can do a fastfire technique by hand just as fast without using a macro if they practice. I can see where the macro would be useful for other things like the tag toggle or firing different weapon sets but when you're using a pure 1 main weapon build you shouldn't have to rely on a macro you're not allowed to go into competition with.

Are PGI okay with using macros? Is there an official stance somewhere? In any case I don't see this as cheating, just makes things like tag a bit easier to use. It's fun watching you enjoying yourself so much. Finally caught up... now what do I watch? :P

not available anymore for download...!

Norton anti-virus is giving me a warning when I try to set this up. :/ Anyone else get that issue?

Everytime I change my profile, everything gets reset to the default values. Is this a known problem, do I have to set up an external save file or something?

Does this work with a Joystick?

I successfully set up the 1,2,3,4,5,6 chain dakka for my KGC-000 with 6 AC/2s & it was fun, but you lose something by not being able to fire all 3 Left Arm ACs or all 3 Right Arm ACs together. I would love to set it up so that: 1) Left Mouse fires 1,3,5 (all Left Arm ACs) with delay 0ms, 2) Right Mouse fires 2,4,6 (all Right Arm ACs) with delay 0ms, & 3) Middle Mouse fires 1,2,3,4,5,6 (all 6 ACs) with delay ~87ms for chainfire dakka with Fast Fire & -12.5% Cooldown module. In this way, we would have the best of all worlds: concentrated, side-specific fire when desired, & full frontal dakka autofire when things heat up. Does anybody know if this is possible?

hilarious 😂😂😂

Of course is this a cheat. You use something that's not intended to be in game to circumvent obstacles the game gives you.

Jagermech.... 4x AC2 and a shitload of ammo.. ultimate support mech :P

you voice is like sparcmac live :D

I have one question after watching the video, and that is... what is the interaction like with Ultra ACs?It was an interesting video Kanajashi. I'm of two minds on it. One, it seems PGI is ok with these macros, so I guess it is ok to use them... but, it seems rather sad that outside programs are creeping into the game, leaving players without this knowledge, like myself previous to viewing this option, effectively in the dark and at a disadvantage. Two, it may be the same dps as alpha striking, but equip a friendly unit with 4 AC/2s and then get in the training grounds and show us the business end of that macro use from the cockpit. I'm sure the cockpit shake and blast animations more than compensate for your face time with the enemy, Kanajashi. That more or less spells out why I'd have a problem with the use of this macro.

My god xD Even though it's a macro it looks so cheaty lol! But epic too

rely fun :)

my eyes gonna blow when im playing SHD with 3xac\2

it doesent work.... why

well that explains alot why i have no armor in 2 secs mini gun macro

I've gotten 7 kills 3 times now but no ace of spades. maybe I'll try using this to get it

RIPPA.

I try 160ms but doesn't work on my 3 AC2

This was excellent in a Jaegermech! I was in a RVN-4X and got raked by this... I shart myself. Honestly this provides no advantage whatsoever over a front-loaded Alpha. Heat on ACs is negligible at best, manageable at worst. But dat dakka-dakka doh...

Ahm .. this is pretty old news, people have been doing this for 2+ years on MWO now. And still do. It's pretty common knowledge. PGI's stance is that it's not illigal . Sure it sucks if you come across a dakka-mech like that, but just flank, don't get singled out and shoot those torso's. These days the meta is more laser vomit builds, especially in faction wars where ranged lasers are predominantly boated. Can't believe everybody in the comments are acting like this is some now "wow" thing.

SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIENDS

I remeber about Half-Life autobunny cheat everytime I look at this tutorial... "but you can do it in the game, so is not a cheat..." PGI may aprove, but Steam sure got them Banned.

This wont be allowed in competitive play will it?

Ah well, facing this would probably end the game for me... No way i'm using that though!

any one have a good set up for AC5 Mauler build?

Sooo, is this still a thing or has PGI made a statement or what?

Nova + Too many SPLs + Macro = PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW heat critical...override shutdown... PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEPEWPEW Cause of death - Overheating

"Cool video thanks this will make my quad ac/2 build much better." AC2UALLY I take that back this thing doesn't work. Even though my weapon groups are correct and the macro is correct the fire control randomly throws in double cannon shots which are then corrected if held. It also cause horrible lag spikes in game that make aim a nightmare. What gives makes no sense that it would fire 2 when at no point has a 2 gun combo been assigned to any of the weapons.

Not allowed in competitive from what I've seen.

All that shooting for 478 damage. lol

You know that you can do this with a Macro Program.

You basically rigged up a RAC/2 lol

I think the reason PGI doesn't consider it as a cheat is probably that it makes the basic system simply work BETTER and not enhancing it in an illegal way. I still think it's a cheat even though i am using it as well. It practically doubles the firepower and usability of such builds and gives the player a clear advantage over someone who's not aware of it.

As cool as this is, it's game breaking... if it was intended to be like this, they wouldn't have bothered adding other ballistic weapons.

is this legal to run in online mode?

pos eso pa mi son chetos, que quieres que te diga

welp first game i was in with kc ac got 8 solo kills....

how the hell is this fine !?!?!??!?