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*phew* I started sweating when I first saw the title of this video because I JUST yesterday finally got my 17" 144hz screen, 11400H, RTX 3060, and 16gb RAM model in the mail after almost a month. Thankfully most of the stuff on this list didn't really end up worrying me haha.

We really need these types of videos, Jarrod. These are such a great follow up videos after your reviews. The information they provide for better decision making to buy laptops is extremely important! I really wish to see more videos like this! Good luck, have a great day!

I'm just glad more reviewers like Jarrod and Dave2d are honest when talking about certain features that the manufacturers are doing when they are selling laptops instead of just being shills for companies since they get review units. Hopefully laptop manufacturers should take the criticism instead of complaining because of the negative and honest feedback because the flaws that they are selling and try to improve on the next generation. I tried to post an honest of something that I bought from Amazon but it could not be posted just because I mentioned something negative about the experience that I purchase from Amazon and all I tried to do was hold Amazon accountable. More of these companies need to held accountable otherwise we are not getting what we are paying for. Oems are already switching ssds with inferior parts and lower quality parts and selling them to reviewers and consumers and not telling them about it.

I've had the Legion 5 for about two months now and I absolutely love it. Totally worth paying to upgrade from an old 2015 Helios 300. Don't think I have any major issues with it at all, it's everything I wanted in a nice package AND made it easy for me to add a second M.2 SSD and upgrade to 32 GB of RAM. Overall? Fantastic laptop, totally would recommend it.

Thank you so much! With the price hikes due to shortages I've been looking for a good budget laptop that still won't sacrifice much of the power, and I think I've settled on Legion 5. Like you stated most of the problems can be alleviated and are pretty simple, so I think it's a deal for me.

Your reviews over laptops issues are really helpfull to the community. As ALL of them are poorly made in one aspect or another, and everyone has a series of different faults consumers have to deal with once they purchase one or the other

I bought the 3070 version recently for a great deal, and I’m glad I watched this as most of the negatives don’t bother me so I’m in the clear here.

4:12 I have the 2020 Legion 5. My touchpad is perfectly stiff and consistent throughout; the looseness is likely a QC issue like you've stated if that's the case.

I chatted to a Lenovo representative and he said that in their stress-tests with a 230 watt power brick even the RTX 3060 version was draining it's battery, so they decided to provide all models with a 300 watt one, whether it's a legion 5 with a 3060 or Legion 7 with a 3080m. And yes, lack of fan control and them being loud at idle is a serious problem Lenovo needs to fix.

I'm going to change from the Advantage Edition to the Legion 5 with 3060. 1. It's $450 cheaper ($1200 vs $1650) 2. It has better cooling (keeps the GPU cool and the surface cooler as well) 3. It has better RT performance (only about 9-10% slower than 6800M in Cyberpunk but faster with RT Medium) 4. It has less stability issues. My 6800M has already had AMD driver timeout issues and stuttering in some games. 5. It has MUX switch so you can do direct to dGPU even over HDMI (G15 AE requires you to use USB-C so the HDMI has hybrid which reduces performance)

I’ve been loving this machine. I mainly use apple but decided to go PC this gen for gaming. I personally have very little to complain about with this machine. The power brick is huge but the touchpad leaves a lot to be desired. It isn’t very responsive and has dead clicking zones. I quickly paired a mouse and have avoided using it ever since.

I have the 2021 Legion 5. Tip: Remove the plastic in the hinge. Its quite hard to remove but if youre gonna wait longer, the heat from the exhausts might make it even harder to remove. I've seen reviews of this laptop with the plastic still on.

Jarrod slowly revealing his true form with these thumbnails 😂 Jokes aside, not being able to control the fans or just fans spinning up doing 'idle' stuff is a giant deal breaker for any gaming laptop/workstation.

On the Lenovo website, you can configure the power brick to be the 230W version instead of the 300W one

Super appreciative of these reviews man… your videos are hands down the BEST on KZfaq when it comes to reviews and specs on laptops. Thank you!

I’ve had my Legion for a year plus some change. Had some trackpad issues and a screw just popped out on the bottom (guess the people who screwed it in striped the plastic), but overall I’ve had no major issues. Don’t really abuse my laptop, but I do like having quite a number of tabs open in Chrome and have noticed my RAM run pretty high playing a not that demanding game (in my opinion). New to really computers like this, so I’m not sure how to make it run better and find it a bit confusing, so I just try to close some apps and keep my stuff updated. The powerbrick can be hot when I’m using it and if it’s not plugged in it lasts maybe an hour and a half when gaming (even though the power estimate says 2hr30mins about). Still love it though and bought a SSD to try and help with storage

great reviews Jarrod, I appreciate it. I can't seem to find a Legion 5 with 32gb's of ram, I wish they would ship with 32gb because I seem to like everything else to use for Blender/Photoshop/Photo Editing. thx again.

does anyone have the issue when they're playing a game in fullscreen and theres something in the background going on like idk watching a yt video the game in fullscreen locks at 60fps?

Hi Jarrod! How do you think this same laptop would perform with an 3070? It would be similar to the L5P 3070? As according to the Lenovo Site, the 3070 on a L5 will still be capped at 130w (Not like the L5P that gets up to 140w), would be worth to get this model with a 3070? (Not an option to get a 3070 on a L5P in my country, and the Legion 7 will not be available at any configuration). What you think? Thanks Jarrod!

Hi jarrod! Im in between buying the Lenovo legion 5 that comes with they ryzen 7 5800h and nvidia 3050ti and the Acer nitro 5 That comes with the i7 11800h and nvidia 3050ti. Which one of those two would yo recomend me??? Both comes with same amount of ram and same ssd I would appreciate your help very much!

I'm watching this on a brand new Legion 5. I have the same config with 5600 & 3060 and ended up with the Realtek card. Curiously enough I do have 3 levels of fan control accessible either the bundled lenovo software, or with fn+Q shortcut. The trackpad is uniformly stiff on both sides.

Well actually the issue with the touch pad is that , its too much left centric Me being a right-hander, it's difficult for me to left click in a comfortable position. Other than that, it's honestly a great touchpad, with basically no flex.

leaving it plugged in all the time u guys letting it charge to 100% these days or use the conservation mode in the vantage settings to save battery health?

Was thinking about picking one of these up. Not sure of any decent alteratives that are not more expensive. I wonder how close the 30 series super cards are too?

Thanks for this video. I'll be sure to keep these in mind since I am eyeing this specific model.

What would you choose between Legion 5 5800/3060 or Omen 15 5800/3070? Everything else is same. MUX does not matter for me because I'll be mainly using it with an external screen.

Hi jarrod. I have question. I want to ask which one is better and will cause lower temps on cpu and gpu. 2 x8 8 gig ram. Or 2 x16 16gig ram? First one is 16 gigs fast ram and the 2nd is 32 gigs but slower kind.

Great tips! I am surprised you should have way more subscribers than you have now. I absolutely subscribed. Hey what about the realtek wifi issue? Does it occur to all legion 5?

Love watching your videos. Hands down the most unbiased and honest reviewer.

I have a legion 5 and the touch pad is perfectly fine and my fans are never loud (it's almost dead quiet) even with intense gaming, i think your unit was just bad sadly.

is it easy to open the laptop and upgrade the parts ?

Hello Jarrod! Thanks for the videos. I spent a long time decidinto change my Laptop and finally decided to get this one with same specs (Ryzen 7 5800 tith RTX3060). I'm not a high gamer but sometimes I play with it and for the price is excellent. But I have a question about upgrading. I would like to buy another NVME SSD and try to make this laptop work in Raid 0. Is it possible? Thanks in advanced. I decided to buy this PC based in a lot of reviews but your videos helped me to be completely sure :)

Here's a problem I have noticed that nobody seems to mention: there are A LOT of bricked Legions recently. Lenovo released a BIOS update and it fucked so many laptops it's insane. I had to get my motherboard replaced two times since I got the laptop. I have the Legion 5 non-Pro. A buddy with the Legion 7 16" also got his motherboard replaced as well due to this. Beware when buying Lenovo guys, they seem to do some very weird shit with their software.

Thanks for this amazing video! I always like your no BS style of delivery, always straight on point. And thanks to this video, I think that legions arent for me, I've been thinking between Asus M16 and legion 5 or 5 pro and I think these problems pushed me further to M16. If I can ever buy one of them ofc.

Hi, my biggest concern is fan control, i really hate gaming laptop that make a constant noise, even if the PC do nothing. What's a good challenger of the lenovo ? What's your advice ?

Hey Jarrod, i am thinking of buying a gaming laptop (in india) budget is around 750usd. Should i buy something now or i should wait till next year ,probably when nvidia launches new gtx series ( i can wait for an year)?

Thanks for the video! Realizing they took away the cool fan control feature from the previous model made me actually go with the previous version since I was less concerned with overall performance but balanced features. Noise and heat levels are too of my biggest concerns with a laptop. They were foolish to remove that cool shortcut fan control from the newer models. I see it as a downgrade I would not purchase.

300W AC adapter is fantastic and really needed imo. This laptop actually offers rapid charging with from what I've seen can charge up the battery with up to 180W, which means you can easily use it and push it quite hard and still be able to recharge the battery within an hour or less.

So I don’t know much about pc But the what does the slow memory affect as far as performance?

If I recall correctly, in your 5800H/RTX3070 HP Omen review, you were commenting on too weak power brick. So maybe 5800H + up to 130W RTX3060 Legion needs bigger one for highest performance mode?

I'm using that exact device for about 4 months. Though some might think you are going over really minor things, I have to say you summed the biggest issues pretty good. My device had 8 gb of slow ram and It was underperforming. I don't know if it is good or not in general, but I added another 8gb stick with faster timing and I got a really great performance uplift. Without removing the old and slow stick and just by adding a faster one alongside it. For the Linux wi-fi problem I have to say I installed Manjaro Linux from the first day I got the laptop and my wi-fi is working perfectly since that day. I don't have any ideas about ubuntu. Maybe it is related to the Kernel and new only versions have Legion 5's wi-fi driver. Manjaro Linux's kernel is updated as fast as any new release rolling out and Ubuntu gets updated less often. (In a fixed 6 month schedule to be precise) Other than that, the brick is heavy in itself and also the cable is one hell of a beasty cable! It is not a light package but I guess that is the price of one of the best performing 3060 laptops. Despite all of this, some Legion 5s like mine have a mediocre 120hz display. I'm not a big color accuracy lover and the display is fine in my opinion. But it could be a real problem for graphic designers and people who are more sensitive to color inaccuracy. In the end I absolutely love this laptop! I'm currently playing DOOM Eternal on ultra (high textures due to vram limitation but basically it makes no difference) with Ray Tracing and DLSS quality at constant 120fps. This machine is really really good as a powerful midrange gaming oriented laptop.

Hey jarrod thanks for your great quality content , this is a great type of video. Make more of these.👏 Can you add a VR game benchmark? Do you think 3080 and 3070 for laptops can run VR games? BTW , did you get any answer from dell for alienware x17 for the review? I really want you to review it.

Excellent summary, really useful. Thanks

Hey Jarrod! Love your videos. Which laptop will you suggest to buy in 2022 for color grading and 4k editing

Got the 17 legion 5 3070 ryzen 7 5800H 16gb Ram 1TB SSD when it was $1150 from Lenovo, still waiting to be shipped but thinking if i should keep. I have the msi gs75 2070 maxp currently. Should I keep my current laptop or the legion 5?

I have legion 5 as well. I think for the lower model which I'm currently using (ryzen 5 with 1650ti) the fan noise isn't really an issue. But I'm still hoping they add fan control on lenovo vantage.

I have Legion 5 2020 version and the touchpad seems to be fine. Do you have any advice on what and why specific brand should I use to upgrade my RAM to 16gb and my SSD to add another 512 SSD. Thanks you for your response. [PH]

@jarrod Which RTX 3000 laptops have u tested that are the most quiet? RTX 3060 and up?

Jarrod I bought a Asus tuf a17 laptop. After realizing that it was a bad laptop I sold it and bought the legion 5 3060 5800h you have in the video. No matter what setting I picked the legion could not get the frames in valorant that the tuf a17 could get(3050 ti 5800h). I did a stress test and people in Dave2d server said that everything was fine when I showed them results. Why the heck is the tuf performing better with a 3050 ti? How???

“Your never going to find a perfect laptop” -Jarrod, so true maybe one day there will be.

Should a 45W ThinkPad charger keep the legion 5 On? just for traveling because the 300W brick is huge to travel with

I'm glad you didn't mention the speakers like many other reviewers did. It's great Lenovo didn't bother with speaker sound considering how loud this gaming laptop can get. I think it's called DTV (design to value) whch helped to keep the price of this laptop very competitive.

Lenovo did improve it since 2019 a lot. Unlike Acer. Back in 2019 I watched your reviews on the Legion Y530 (I think it was or the Legion 5, not sure) and Predator 300. I choose the Predator and that laptop has been faultless. So to sum it up 2019 - Predator 300. 2020 - Legion 5. They made some much needed upgrades. 2021 seem kinda of a downgrade for both companies as far as I can see.

I have the same specs 2021 Legion 5. I'm pretty happy with everything so far. My biggest gripes are the huge power brick, as I am a student. I get about 3 hours of battery life so I always need to bring that power brick around everywhere. Actually for my unit, my touchpad is pretty sturdy, but sometimes it inputs a left click instead of a right click, so not sure if that's a consistent problem. Otherwise very happy with what I bought. I actually don't hear any fan noise unless I have a game running. Even in a quite environment and I'm taking a test, I don't anything. Maybe just my ears.

Jarrod - I have a question in regards to this laptop. So I bought this laptop (Legion 5, Ryzen 5800H, RTX 3060, 144hz 17" screen) and the problem I have with it is that the spec sheet says the laptop panel itself supports Freesync which means that it support variable refresh rate. However, as far as I can tell, this is absolutely not true and a complete misrepresentation of the product by Lenovo. I simply cannot get the laptop panel to enable Freesync at all. It doesn't matter if I'm in hybrid mode and using the AMD drivers, or in non-hybrid mode and using the NVidia drivers. Both drivers simply act as though the 17" laptop panel does not have Freesync capabilities. What I believe is reality is that the laptop display supports EITHER 60Hz or 144Hz, but no in between. For example, if I play Rocket League on the laptop dispaly and I limit the refresh rate in the in game settings to 120fps, I should still have a very smooth experience if the laptop display support VRR and sync's the Hz to FPS. However, it is noticeably choppy even though the game is easily locked at 120fps. If I connect the laptop to my external g-sync monitor and perform the same test, this same 120fps is silky smooth. I think this is a massive issue with the laptop and should be called out on Lenovo's part as they are straight up lying about their product. Otherwise, the laptop is fantastic and I love it, but I'm sorely disappointed that they led me to believe the laptop panel supports Freesync when it clearly does not. The downside to this situation is that unless you can keep your game locked to 144fps then you will have a very choppy and poor experience. You are almost better off setting the laptop display to 60hz and playing it that way. So long story short, here's my question. Does your Legion 5 laptop display support Freesync? Are you able to enable it in either the AMD drivers or NVidia drivers? As far as I can tell, this is impossible.

Hey Jarrod. I recently bought a Acer Nitro 5. Ryzen 5600H RTX 3060 16GB RAM 512GB SSD. I recently bought a hard drive and went to plug it in but the port that you plug it into just wasn't there. Is there supposed to be one there?

Touchscreen was also veeeery slightly loose for me. But the biggest "problem" for me was the volume. In my last laptop I was sitting comfortably on 32-40% volume most of the time, but on Legion I had to bump it to 52-60% to achieve the same effect.

shit I upgraded mine to a 32gb memory, and I saw a huge performance difference in my games. Which is very suprising knowing people say that ram does not matter.

Hi Jarrod! Thanks for your reviews. I've bought a Lenovo 5pi at a really nice price last year. I was wondering whether the Hdmi port is input or output. Will I be able to use the laptop screen as a display for console gaming? Thank you! Hope you'll answer :)

is that ip gaming 3(gtx1650) better that legion 5(gtx1650)? in terms of price per performance* 🤔

That discord server looks like a life saver, i got the fans to 0 on idle after some dickin around with amd and bios versions. For me, legion 5 3070, i have no amd drivers, newest nvidia and i think the most recent bios with the level 0 thermal thing checked

Surprised how you didn't mention the small palm rest area, I've seen it be a deal breaker for many

Thank you Jarrod, yet another awesome video. Would you be able to comment on your experience with the speakers and audio quality of the legion 5? I've upgraded from my Y540, but I miss the sound quality of my Y540 compared to the Legion 5. Is the Legion 5 Pro sound quality any better? Thank you

Great series of videos about the Lenovo Legion 5/5 Pro/7 and really cool tees featured to boot! \m/ Glad I'm seeing Aephanemer on this one... ;) Subbed.

Hey Jarrod, Last week ive picked up my Legion 5 with a 5600h and rtx 3060, I love it. Im going to upgrade my 8gb of ram to 16gb x8 ram. should make a big difference. The trackpad is completely fine on my model. and the best thing is I paid only 850$ for it while it was on sale. However I find that the 300w power brick is indeed quite big

Decided on this laptop for my brother. Got an amazing deal at only 1300 euros. Was a pretty substantial improvement from his 750 ti and i3-4130. Great video btw! Oh and also, on his laptop he can press fn + q to change between 3 fan profiles. Must be a newer feature

Didn't know you had a second channel, just subscribed. Keen for more laptop content

Hi guys!Have you used ubuntu on the legion 5 2021?Have you had any problems with drivers or other aspects?

Thank you Jerrod, this video was just what I wanted I'm planning on buying the $1050 model Any suggestions on what ram, memory, wifi card to buy? Please suggest ones that are reasonable and provides reasonable performance boost Also please keep on making these kind of videos, all these other youtubers make one video and never follow up

Plsee help me Jarrod.....I have this same laptop.... Haven't watched ur full video yet I am traveling.....but i need ur help...my GPU is not working properly....GPU usage is always around 40-50% and tdp is always like 30-50watts at the highest performance mode...plse help me...I updated bios and drivers for GPU still not working properly 😭😭

Yep, the availability is spot on. Not only lenovo legion, but also hp omen is antoher laptop that is very hard to buy because it is so rare. Here in my country (Indonesia), the official distributor for hp omen and lenovo legion both said that "hopefully" it will be back in stock in early November

Hi Jarrod! 4:21 Do you mean that the fans always work and never turn off completely? So, it is not completely silent? (Like legion 7i 2020) Thanks for all great (even best in the world) reviews!

Lenovo confirmed in their official Legion discord that Fan Control will be coming in mid-2022(possibly alongside 2022 Legion's) It will include 2021,2020 models and maybe even 2019 models

Pretty OOT but i really wanna see u collab with the big dogs like LTT

How is the fan continuously spinning when the laptop is at idle? Will it's pcie 3.0 speed be enough for future directstorage? Is this Legion still worth it ? I can get 1 with rtx 3070 within 1 week

Which do you prefer, this, the 5 pro or the 7? Is there that much difference between them?

Legion 5 is plagued from start with manufacturing issues like over heating, slower random ram and many screens even have dead pixels out of the box. i love your videos and went for legion just because of them, but now really think i should have gone asus or alien ware

I'm getting my Legion 5 this week, and I gotta say that if these are the biggest issues with it I'm going to be really happy. Big thanks to this channel for steering me towards the Legion 5, I nearly got a Tuf F-15 and I'd have been really dissatisfied. I'm hyped for the Legion 5

Jarrod would you suggest to lower tdp on 5800h. Or leave it on default?

Jarrods, sorry I'm bothering, I have a legion 5 with Intel i7 and RTX 3070, I would need to know how I can connect an external screen so that it works at maximum resolution, if it can be 4k better or 2k and more HZ, what is the best port on the Legion 5 for that external screen? What large screen would you use at most? What limitations are there?

Do it with HP Omen too!!!

I use this laptop as my desktop PC for 3 months and absolutely perfect. Best gaming laptop for 2K games.

Thanks this is the type of reviews that i like seeing. Aside from upside its good to know the downsides

Really your channel should be have more views. Thank you so much. Regards from Spain

Thanks Jarrod for bubbling up the problem where Lenovo promised Intel WiFi card & is delivering Realtek, Mediatek WiFi cards

7 problems yet you crowned it best budget gaming laptop

Hi jarrod between this (planning on getting the white one though) and the predator helios 300 i7 10th gen with gtx 3060 which would be a better buy? I'm kinda leaning towards this though

Hello, would you recommend Legion 5 17 inch 11800H or Legion S7 15,6 inch 5800H ? Which one ? i am not playing games, i will use it while working and trading finance..can i use these laptos as a server PC 7 day / 24 hours?

I bought it when it was released and had to return it a few days after as the WiFi was terrible. I had the most inconsistent / high pings while gaming (mine had the Intel card)…

great video. For one, if they DID make a perfect laptop it would be like 25 thousand bucks, and would be obsolete on the way home probably. Personally I'm loving my Legion 5, but it's an older 1660TI model. Upgrading soon. Also, about the trackpad, I looked inside and the switch is on the right side on my PCB, so yeah. it might be the issue, the switch itself isn't dead center under the pad.

Got mine yesterday for helping a friend in need, im happy with it so far!

i just got mine yesterday and ive noticed that mine does not like to hold a charge at all it drops so fast that i cant take it off charge witch sucks bc i got it so i could take it places with me and now i feel like it will die if i take it any were to use it with out it being plugged in i dont know if it is just me or what

Companies will never be able to impress people no matter how much effort they put in their product. Everything about Legion 5 Pro is perfect including the big brick like adapter. They all have a purpose if we look at performance of this laptop.

Igpu driver not detecting is also a problem but nobody covers it 🙂

Is it good idea to buy same laptop (2021) in 2023? Please answer me someone

so i just got a 17 inch one with 144hz screen... it said it had free sync but i still get screen tearing unless i turn on vsync. whether the mux switch is on or off it made no difference. any thoughts on this?

I would love to see a Legion 5 vs Legion 5 Pro comparison video.

I bought my Legion 5 last year and quite frankly it has none of these issues lmao. Mine has 230w charger, Intel AX200 wifi card, great 1RX8 ram, 144hz screen with good response time, solid touchpad etc.

Hello, between hp victus [11th gen cori7 rtx 3060 and 16 gb memory], legio5 and legion 5 pro, which one do you think is the best?