My Adventures with Superman's "Lois Problem" - Part 2

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This is the one where Lois does the thing. #quirky
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00:00 intro
00:36 Episode 4
04:01 The Fashion Police
10:51 Episode 4 continued
13:47 Dr Ivo's Character
22:26 Episode 4 continued
36:49 Jimmy the third wheel
40:54 Episode 4's ending
44:31 Episode 5
57:09 Lois' Hypocrisy
1:02:03 Episode 5 continued
1:10:51 Lois does The Thing
1:20:23 Episode 6
1:36:41 "Why couldn't Satan make me less beautiful?"
1:38:28 Episode 6 continued
1:40:39 Closing Thoughts
1:47:56 Credits
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@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
Uncredited music: 00:17 Kaito Tenshi Twin Angel 2 Angel Raikuni☆LOVE Rita!! 02:07 X-Files remix - DJ Dado 04:55 Turtleneck and Blazer - Austin Archer 25:40 Chocobo! - Final Fantasy 1 (PSP) 44:41 Koyaanisqatsi 45:26 Xeno Arcadia - Hylics 2 46:07 Trapped in the Drive Thru - Weird Al Yankovic 56:42 Epic Music - Clash Of Ages 57:17 Operator Plays a Little Pingpong - The Neverhood 1:02:21 It's a mystery! 1:04:08 Border of Life 「Yunum」
@prestonsawicki7517
@prestonsawicki7517 4 ай бұрын
The show was definitely not perfect, but it was really nice to see superman as a good person for the first time in a while
@kingj9664
@kingj9664 2 ай бұрын
Thank you someone said it although I still think the show is pretty fun
@diamonddust4486
@diamonddust4486 4 ай бұрын
The fact that this show has some genuine good bits makes it so much more frustrating than something like High Guardian Spice...
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 4 ай бұрын
Nah, I’d prefer it.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
Y'all keep validating the reactionary outrage against that show
@kingj9664
@kingj9664 2 ай бұрын
​@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 What does that mean
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 2 ай бұрын
@@kingj9664 I’d prefer a show with some genuine good bits than High Guardian Spice. Don’t get what’s so frustrating about that.
@amarionfranklin3817
@amarionfranklin3817 Ай бұрын
Or Velma... God forbid that show doesn't get a 3rd season
@PinkOjamajo
@PinkOjamajo 4 ай бұрын
You perfectly described my frusteration with Lois in episodes 5 and 6. I remember me and my friend were watching the episodes together and we were both pissed at the show because of how unreasonable Lois was being, yet being framed as more in the right than Clark.
@auralunaprettycure
@auralunaprettycure 4 ай бұрын
agreed, with your points here entirely. Also! Is that art of Tsubomi actually official art? Cause I’m a huge Heartcatch fan but never saw that picture before. If it’s fanart they got Umakoshi’s art style spot on. :o
@LadyLeomon
@LadyLeomon Ай бұрын
This version of Lois is giving me the same vibes as the Amazon version of Invincible’s Amber (and I cannot stand that version) 😒😒😒
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
Doctor Ivo being turned into basically the already Steve Jobs parody Mark Beaks from Duck Tales was... a weird idea. Ivo is originally the classic mad scientist archetype, he ain't the Lex Luthor type who is a billionaire philanthropist, he is the type who creates weird androids that steal superpowers and tries to make himself immortal, in his basement.
@scifiguy9000
@scifiguy9000 3 ай бұрын
Maybe they kind of merged Amazo and Parasite in this given how similar the concept of draining powers are?
@conradaster3764
@conradaster3764 4 ай бұрын
10:29 you can NEVER beat the “little black dress” lol
@T-Jex
@T-Jex 4 ай бұрын
I think the fact that the Parasite was created by a 14 year old still going to high school and it became a pretty iconic member of Superman’s rouges, and this show created by professionals just made him an armor says a lot about their creativity.
@dand1253
@dand1253 3 ай бұрын
I feel like it _could_ have worked? The suit is very clearly some kind of eldritch bio-horror which has been crudely reshaped and passed off as power armor. It then literally parasitizes its user, altering his thought processes to make him provide it with energy which it uses to fuel its own growth, until it literally starts crushing its host to death - which I interpreted as a sign that the Parasite had regenerated enough that it could get by on its own, meaning that Ivo was now an unnecessary hanger-on taking up the space it needed to properly regrow its internal organs. And since it doesn't care about Ivo beyond his ability to provide it with energy, and that ability is currently "none", it was just going to burst him like a pimple to make room rather than waste time and energy ejecting him. That _could have been_ a good foundation for a new take on the Parasite.
@conradaster3764
@conradaster3764 4 ай бұрын
You know; I have a theory after watching this: I wonder if Louis’ formal wear was so basic so when she disrobed, the backless shirt would be “SUPER EFFECTIVE” 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@KayronTheFifth
@KayronTheFifth 4 ай бұрын
Nice video, if only SUPERMAN had the strength to break the handcuffs and escape...
@kingkaza
@kingkaza 2 ай бұрын
It has pink kryptonite Inside so didn't wanna get cancalled
@roarschache7904
@roarschache7904 4 ай бұрын
I'm sure its probably been said but... Dr Ivo's name is Tony... and he is being voted out his own company? That is literally the plot of the first Iron Man movie...
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
They also copied a lot of Megamind regarding Lois finding out about Clark's identity. I only caught that while editing and it was too late to incorporate into the video but I'm keeping it in mind for the next part.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
It's really weird because they had to go out of their way to make this version of the character into evil Iron Man with Doctor Doom's motivation.
@kingj9664
@kingj9664 2 ай бұрын
I mean to be fair that's classic DC usually always taking a jab at Marvel Or Marvel Taking a job at DC
@kingj9664
@kingj9664 2 ай бұрын
Oh by the way that's also the plot to the first spider man movie
@kingj9664
@kingj9664 2 ай бұрын
​@@c-puff Weirdly enough even with the whole roof top saying I didn't really hate Lois. I gotta know it no one called around but they're not right hater and still want to be joined the show. But that's just me. By the way I'm surprised you didn't know who Amber was given what a Hot Topic she was on KZfaq for a good bit and why did you call invincible Not invent the bowls like why did you add the s? What if you ever want to see what all the high pizza about was that show you should give it a watch or not just a suggestion also another suggestion since you were talking about superhero shells check out Moon girl and devil Dinosaur
@amandaf4720
@amandaf4720 3 ай бұрын
47:11 Sorry to be pedantic but this jumped out at me - a pawn shop isn't the same as a thrift shop. Pawn shops will buy things from customers like guns, jewelry, musical instruments, power tools, computers and so on and then resell them at a profit, so they do have somewhat valuable merchandise that people regularly try to steal. Jacking a pawn shop isn't as glamorous as robbing a bank, but also not as high-profile and there's way less security to deal with, so it's not too far-fetched that a bunch of kids with alien supertech would use it that way.
@c-puff
@c-puff 3 ай бұрын
I did not know that! :o
@KeybladeMasterAndy
@KeybladeMasterAndy Ай бұрын
A character knowing the secret and trying to get Clark to admit it on his own terms? Smallville spends half a season with that arc. This show doesn't even do it in half an hour.
@thantrus
@thantrus 4 ай бұрын
Not to add yet ANOTHER comparison to Ivo, but omg he's a more overt Syndrome from the Incredibles!
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking of Syndrome, too, when she was talking about Ivo and how she doesn't take him seriously as a villain because of his comedic goofiness? That makes me question: what allows Syndrome to be taken seriously as a villain despite his comedic goofiness? Assuming C-Puff does btw.
@harlannguyen4048
@harlannguyen4048 Ай бұрын
​@@Takejiro24His motivation for the things he does
@DarkLiger
@DarkLiger 4 ай бұрын
Now the question is, will those mutants try to pierce the Heavens? Sorry, I had to. Moving on, the writing for Clark is one of the shows greatest strengths. I forget where I heard it but the idea that too many writers "focus on Superman being Kal-el of Krypton and not Clark Kent from Kansas" is something that stuck with me. I think the writers here have done a good job avoiding that. In his heart Superman is a genuine good guy from Kansas.
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
For real. I genuinely like Clark as a character a lot in this show.
@Earthboundmike
@Earthboundmike 4 ай бұрын
So... if the suit gets power from being hit, WHY WOULD HITTING THE GROUND MAKE IT WEAKER. How in gods name did they get to that conclusion.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
Traditionally, in the comics, Parasite’s weakness is cold, because it literally drains the energy he’s stolen out of his body.
@Earthboundmike
@Earthboundmike 4 ай бұрын
@@jonathannoble7845 The comics don't seem aware that heat is... energy.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
what do you mean?@@Earthboundmike
@koatam
@koatam 4 ай бұрын
​@@Earthboundmikecold is the lack of energy. Draining the power he's stored.
@harlannguyen4048
@harlannguyen4048 Ай бұрын
​@@EarthboundmikeDepends. Parasite was able to absorb Superman's Heat Vision in the Man of Tomorrow animated movie.
@mjh8216
@mjh8216 4 ай бұрын
Wait... Parasites co-worker is called Alex? That's Lex F###kin Luthor??? Also Parasite is basically a poor man Lex Luthor when comparing him to Superman the animated series
@T-Jex
@T-Jex 4 ай бұрын
I bet that twink could not even steal a single cake
@amw5288
@amw5288 3 ай бұрын
Ginger, purple and green colours, a really good / expensive voice actor for a side character, distrust of Superman, tech genious, left in position to take over Amazotech.... Need I go on? They are setting up Alex to become the true big bad for a later season as Lex Luthor.
@mjh8216
@mjh8216 3 ай бұрын
u forgot making him go bald or is that too unrealistic?@@amw5288
@RadioHazbin
@RadioHazbin 4 ай бұрын
It should be noted that kamski is modeled, mocaped and voiced by Neil Newbon 😅 who is absolutely loveable as a person
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
XD good point. It's just so weird they look so similar unless they purposefully took design inspiration from friggen Detroit Become Human which feels like a bit of a stretch. It's probably just a coincidence... but it IS a weird coincidence.
@TheSehroyal
@TheSehroyal Ай бұрын
On "Lois says she hates liars" part: -Like you've said, she turns off her father saying they don't speak much. Notice she has already decided that he'll think she's a failure -Lois clearly thinks she's doing wrong after being confronted by Clark on the first episode -She than has to watch herself not be half as acomplished as her "variants" later on So yea, self loathing getting in the way of her thinking straight is kinda there
@lumidolce
@lumidolce 4 ай бұрын
Just finished the Lois part, but we need to talk about how modern media keeps portraying so many manipulative, entitled, selfish characters so positively (Lois, Velma, Catra, Sage, etc.) Witnessing how some of these creators/crew have acted on social media, I'm not surprised so many shows have a lot of toxic characters that do toxic things.
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
I do my very best to seperate the show from things the creators have said on social media unrelated to the show but er.... yeah especially with HGS and a writer I didn't want to name... yeah it's not shocking why some of the characters act the way they do.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
You sound like an incel
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
​@@c-puffThe fuck you validating this loser for?
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
​@@c-puffYou really validating this incel weirdo? You're so Fauxgressive it hurts
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
I hated how super fast this show revealed Clark's secret identity to Lois and Jimmy. It's the same thing like in CW shows, where the writers clearly do not understand the reason for secret identities and hate the idea, so quickly write themselves out of a corner. In this show, it is especially bad because this is episode 4 - and Clark has known Lois for maybe like, 1 or 2 weeks? Yet from this point on, she will feel vindicated and demands this stranger she barely knows come clean to her - a reporter - about being a super powered alien.
@koatam
@koatam 4 ай бұрын
Like in Batwoman where she came out as a lesbian to the world. Like it didn't just make it 100 times easier to find out who she is.
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
@@koatam Hehe, too true. Now all someone has to do is run a search of known lesbians and compare that shot of a lower jaw... :P That's why Batman does not let himself photographed up close. Heck, most people in Gotham still think he is a myth.
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 4 ай бұрын
@@SwiftNimblefoot That or the writers were tired of “secret identity to your loved ones” trope lasting too long. Like how it looks like they made Clark and Lois a thing before the season finale instead of teasing it for multiple seasons (I’m looking at you Star vs).
@amandaf4720
@amandaf4720 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was actually sort of refreshing that the writers were going with a new angle in this iteration. They'd already changed things up by having the three of them all on equal footing as interns/fledgling reporters (instead of Lois being the established powerhouse, Clark the bright-eyed newbie and Jimmy the much younger copy boy), which - even though it preserves the general dynamic - still gives them a different energy. With Lois and Jimmy both knowing early on that Clark is Superman, they function as a team who all protect each other, and sharing Clark's secret deepens their bond with each other because, despite their personal flaws, they understand how important that secret is.
@flaredesel3425
@flaredesel3425 3 ай бұрын
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964I will never forgive the off-screen breakup of Marco and Kelly to make Starco happen
@andrewlevin6331
@andrewlevin6331 4 ай бұрын
Ya know, C-Puff the only thing wrong with your content is there’s not enough of it. Not that I’m trying to rush you, just saying, keep doing what you’re doing, because it’s working for me.
@skywise001
@skywise001 4 ай бұрын
I do miss the bounce intro :)
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
People forget that Lois trying to trick Clark into revealing his secret in the original live action movie was in THE SEQUEL. She and Clark had known each other for a few years at that point and very real romantic tension had developed between her and Superman. That's a whole different dynamic. Context matters.
@bgvo4373
@bgvo4373 Ай бұрын
Please. This version of Lois and Clark is way better than the live action couple. This Clark would never erase Lois’s mind.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 Ай бұрын
@@bgvo4373 That isn't really relevant to my point.
@G-LukeJA
@G-LukeJA Ай бұрын
I don't see that as that relevant to the point of these characters. Thats just a Lois who didn't seriously suspect Clark as Superman until the sequel.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 Ай бұрын
@@G-LukeJA When they'd known each other for longer. That part is very relevant.
@Earthboundmike
@Earthboundmike 4 ай бұрын
Dr Ivo sounds like Tony Stark if he was... that.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
This show feels very shallow. Not in the sense of its values, but in the sense that they rely on a lot of shallowly written characters with broad personalities combined with stock plots
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 4 ай бұрын
I don’t get it 🫤🤷‍♂️.
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 4 ай бұрын
Brain called them OMACs, which is a specific line of androids in DC. I wanna say they're from the future and controlled by a hyper advanced AI called "Brother Eye," or something to that effect. Either way, making them also from the invasion tech is definitely a workable alternate origin! That they're also from Task Force X is mostly just to tie in that Waller probably has more of them, given that she's always the one in control of that particular group. Also, those weren't just mutants in power armor - They were thinly veiled Gurren Lagann references. They all look like rejected designs for Simon's mech, lmao.
@JoanFates
@JoanFates 4 ай бұрын
Why can’t I ever escape RWBY or MLB?
@kap1618
@kap1618 3 ай бұрын
It really bothers me when a crestors tout themselves as progressive and somehow creates an lgbt+ and/or poc character whose cruel and toxic unintentionally. It happened with Sage, and it's happening with Lois.
@Baltux
@Baltux 4 ай бұрын
I think the youtube response videos are a reference to the very old days of youtube. There was actually a function to make response videos, that were then shown as a category within the ui. Like you could watch a video, and click a button to upload a response video for it.
@nighthawk7485
@nighthawk7485 4 ай бұрын
A few thoughts from someone who's only exposure to this show has been your videos: 1. On Ivo: "...a guy who claims he just wants to help. But can we really trust a stranger to help us for free? Of course not," would have actually been an interesting idea to have Ivo run with if he was a) Intended to be something of a recurring villain or at least had more set-up, and b) was actually portrayed in a serious manner. Making him a one-off, cringe-fail villain seriously undercuts any potential the character had, as well as removing a potentially interesting narrative idea. Superman emerging in the world in a public way would definitely be controversial, with many people having reasonable and unreasonable reactions to this. The idea that some segment of the population being skeptical of Clark's altruism, especially when he's new on the scene, isn't new, but is a convenient avenue for interesting stories. 2. Jimmy being an active part of the team dynamic was something that I really liked as an idea from the early episodes. The decision to essentially remove him from the main narrative as part of an attempt to force the Clark+Lois "romance" sub-plot forward is frustrating. It's like after they wrote the first three episodes and then set about writing the Lois and Clark dynamic for the next episodes first, and had to come up with a narrative way to keep Jimmy out of the dynamic so the plot they wanted to write in could happen, causing Jimmy to violate his established character in order to keep the will they/won't they tension going on longer. The "Jimmy knew Clark was Superman" was a very funny reveal to me because while I was trying to process "Lois doing the thing" from episode funny, I kept trying to find good ways you could (if this was a consistently well-written show) force Lois to really confront how unreasonable her actions were and the best way I had come up with by the time we had seen Jimmy on-screen in episode 6 was "Jimmy knew Clark was Superman." It would have been so easy for them to use the contrast in how they dealt with the "Clark is Superman" revelation to force Lois to look into the mirror and really face her flaws, but instead they have to utterly mangle this reveal in such a way as to somehow make Clark the bad guy when Lois is clearly in the wrong. It's like the writers realized that they'd written something competently but realized it made their favorite character look bad so they just forced the narrative to try to convince the audience that "No really, this just makes Clark worse." 3. Your video does an excellent job of going over why Lois is utterly broken as a character. And I've highlighted how they, perhaps accidentally, have written a "light foil" (as opposed to a dark mirror) for Lois in Jimmy. But I think that there is something else that you didn't really highlight in this episode that bears mentioning. It's been building up for a bit in the previous episodes but episode 5 as a whole, and not just "Lois doing the Thing," really seals it: I don't believe that this Clark would get romantically involved with this Lois. I can understand his initial attraction. Personality-wise she's driven, friendly, boisterous, and her determination to act when other people are in danger are all positive traits that are easy to get attached to. However, her constant lying to further her own ambitions and her utter recklessness with her own safety and arguably the safety of others (handcuffing herself to Superman limiting his ability to help others is still an issue in principle regardless of Superman's ability to break out of normal handcuffs if the writers gave it more than 2 seconds of thought), would certainly be hang-ups that Clark and/or Lois would have to work past in order for them to have a serious romance. However, Lois throwing herself off of the building in order to force him to out himself speaks to a fundamental lack of trust that would stifle any sort of romantic relationship. Unless I'm seriously misreading what I'm seeing, the writers are going to force the two together, and it is going to be frustrating to watch as Lois' character flaws are just swept under the rug so this romance can happen. 4. Finally, I come to Clark. I don't have much to say about him as for all of this show's flaws, they have done a very good job of characterizing him and having him be consistent with that character. The only thing I have to say is the "I just want to be normal bit" is frustrating. I understand that the writers are trying to have Clark be someone who is wrestling with his identity. That said, despite them written him as saying that he just wants to be normal, his actions don't really bear that out. He has been clearly defined as intelligent, altruistic, and very decisive. When someone is in danger, we have never seen him hesitate to prioritize the safety of the innocent ahead of even capturing the villain, much less his own safety. "Show, don't tell" is just about the first writing advice anyone gets, but these writers have been focusing so much on the story they're trying to tell that they have forgotten or ignored the story they've shown. Clark's actions clearly show that truly being normal isn't actually a priority for him, and "I just want to be normal" is clearly just the writers not bothering to come up with a better reason for him to not let Lois and Jimmy know With a slight refocusing of the narrative, you could come up with a much better reason. If they change the question Clark is wrestling is from "Who is Clark?" to "What can and should Clark do as Superman?", I feel like you could accomplish several things: a) You remove the incongruity between Clark's inner conflict and his actions. b) Your reason for Clark not telling others about himself can become as easy as "I'm just Clark. I haven't hidden who I am from you, just what I can do," which, as we saw from Lois' observations in episode 4, is clearly the case. And finally c) it gives a strong theme for them to wrap the main plot around. The main plot so far doesn't seem to really have a direction so far. It has mostly just been dangling in the wind, and doesn't really seem to be building to anything. Most of the villains have just been enemies of the week with some "conspiracy in the shadows" doing vaguely shady things. If you have the "What can and should Clark do as Superman" theme, you can easily have your villains reacting to the question "What can and will Superman do?" You could have your Intergangs, low level criminals trying to obtain higher tech options in order for them to effectively pull off heists, their needing to be able to fend off Superman forcing them to escalate their threat to others as a response. You could have a more serious Ivo truly wondering why someone with the power of Superman is altruistic, and trying to create that kind of power so he can sell it. You could have villains looking upon him with disgust for not doing more with his power, civilians demanding more of him if he's so powerful, groups like Task Force X trying to brace to deal with the potential threat he represents if he ever wasn't altruistic, delving into dark places and Faustian bargains in an attempt to level the potential playing field against Superman, even as their own actions make them a threat to others Superman has to deal with. And this one central question that Clark has to wrestle with can act as the glue that holds all of these potentially disparate ideas together. None of these ideas are that original, but man would they help a lot to keep the narrative focused. And with that, I've now spent longer than the runtime of this video trying to craft a mostly-coherent comment responding to flaws in a show I didn't even watch. I'll end my commentary with this: the writers have clearly squandered a potential masterpiece they had all of ingredients they needed to create in favor of forcing the narrative where they wanted it to go. Thank you, C-Puff, for a well-crafted series of videos that have made me genuinely care about the fate a show I had never seriously given any thought to, and I eagerly await your next video.
@Balevolt
@Balevolt 2 ай бұрын
3-D mechs hurt my soul being a Mecha fan born in the late 80's
@gamecubechair9066
@gamecubechair9066 26 күн бұрын
What’s Jacksepticeye doing in my Superman cartoon?
@kettleling6662
@kettleling6662 4 ай бұрын
Oh man and I've been liking Lois quite a bit so far :< It really is damn frustrating... the worst part is that there's no undoing an impression on a character, especially after smth as infuriating as that rooftop scene (and treatment of the characters thereafter), it always gonna be tainted. Very looking forward to your next vid C-puff, great job as always! :>
@SsnakeBite
@SsnakeBite 3 ай бұрын
52:44 - And since Superman has super-strength, he effortlessly breaks the cuffs, immediately resolving that non-issue... right? Right?!!
@reksraven6909
@reksraven6909 4 ай бұрын
Regarding 32:00 i was rewatching justice league recently and it was really weird at first to see superman being manhandled pretty often (tho most of the time him being a paragon and not wanting to fight for certain reasons but also some times because the other party just fought harder) It reminded me that supes is insanely durable and strong compared to a normal human but more or less above average when compared to other super beings in the DC Universe. I think the oversaturation and overreliance on supes cryptonite weakness plays a big part in this. Superman got reduced from a character with the character flaw of his paragon nature being exploitable by someone who is strong enough even without cryptonite to "Yeah you can only kill him with cryptonite"
@obadakhalid713
@obadakhalid713 4 ай бұрын
Damn that new intro is really nice well done
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
Ah thank you so much! 💖💖
@wagerobot5231
@wagerobot5231 3 ай бұрын
I'm watching this on mobile so I can confirm that the sparkling subscribe button did work. Strangely, it only glowed the first time you said subscribe in the sentence. It didn't light up again when you said like and subscribe.
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
Ivo's Parasite armor soooo bit for bit the Spiral King from Gurren Lagann that I am surprised they did not sue...
@BellyThatProductions
@BellyThatProductions 4 ай бұрын
Loving the new intro! And this is what happens when you get a show that wants to focus on the "Teen drama" without knowing what makes actual compelling drama. Louis throwing herself off a building cus she feels intitled to Clark's identity is not really good even if you were basing it on some Louis's of the past. Because in those instances, it's more of an implied "They know, but won't tell eachother" and is usually a metaphor for a Leap of Faith and trust you have to take in a relationship. Here???? It is... Not that. This is a blind leap of feeling entitled to everything your friends don't tell you just cause they're setting up clear boundaries
@gunfighter009
@gunfighter009 19 күн бұрын
Lois in the original comics would throw herself off a building yes but it was for the much less creepy and entitled and much more relateable reason: she wanted to beat traffic to work and jumped off a building so superman would give her a ride. It's much more fun psychotic and less mean than this lois.
@indigokozy9251
@indigokozy9251 4 ай бұрын
I really liked the fashion segment. It was fun and worked in context. But I think it also hit on the issue of how clothing is becoming more unisex, colourless and muted. But, yeah, unfortunately Lois and her behaviour is the talk of the show. How Lois acted in episode 5 and 6 has unfortunately become a trend for how women are being written. But I feel like Lois is unique. Because other writers have done the same thing to show that their female character is a no-nonsense woman that won't be belittled. But with Lois, and Jimmy, it was all very much about Clark's unwillingness to come out and who he came out to first. I'm going to risk a calculated guess. I feel like this mentality comes from middle-class queer culture. A mentality born out of a good number of queer people who generally feel secure and can only imagine discrimination as an external threat from ignorant people. Their parents are encouraging, their friends are all queer, the people they meet are all accepting. It's just this other group, off in the distance, that's not accepting. So, they can't imagine why somebody would choose to remain closeted or, worse in their opinion, leave one foot in the closet with the intention to run back inside at a moment's notice. To them, it seems like the closeted queer person is the problem. They're the one with the issues that they need to get over. I can't know the creators intentions. But I do wonder if the team wanted the show to be as queer as possible, spent hours talking about the main trio as though they were queer, and then had this idea that Clark, as somebody with a double identity, should go through this character arc of learning to be open to his fellow outcasts. But there wasn't anyone in the room to offer a take on what Clark's perspective would look like in this situation. In other words, I suspect that the writing room was a room full of Lois' and Jimmy's in desperate need of a Clark Kent.
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked the fashion segment! 😂 I had fun with it and ended up learning a lot about a culture's traditional clothing that I didn't know much about before other than what it looks like. As for Lois, I genuinely don't know if they even realised what they were writing with her character as a queer creative team. It's just as possible that they are so entrenched in queer culture that they completely missed the very obvious parallel in the story line. My guess is; The writers for this show already like the Lois they have written, and paid no attention to the fact that the audience of the show is not going to just love their character unconditionally, and being likeable is something that has to have effort put into it. I said on tumblr a while ago regarding some webcomics I was reading which had a similar problem; 'Just because you already like your character doesn't mean your audience will"
@georgethompson913
@georgethompson913 4 ай бұрын
I've heard it mentioned that queer has become more an aesthetic these days. Something similar beeing the straight romances in BG3 being called queer cause they fit the queer aesthetic.
@indigokozy9251
@indigokozy9251 4 ай бұрын
@@georgethompson913 I don't think it's an aesthetic. At least not in this context. More so that people who work as successful writers and producers in animation are only going to see the queer experience from their advantaged position in life. That's all they know and therefore understand. But I like C-puff's explanation. The writers didn't ask themselves what the audience might think of certain character moments. Because they already liked these characters and didn't think about the possibility that we might have our own interpretation due to the limited information we have in comparison to the writers who have spent many more hours with these characters. Both my guess and C-puff's hit upon the same problem. The writers are unable to take themselves out of their own head. To look at the story from different imagined perspectives before writing the final script
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, that they took Ivo - one of the preeminent roboticists of DC, creator of possibly the strongest cybernetic being in that verse - and turned him into Villain Tony Stark is one of the biggest disappointments of the series for me. I was SO hyped for Amazo at the start of the episode and by the end it was just, "Oh, Parasite, but armor... That's... also interesting." Doubly so when he's clearly NOT the brains behind the situation... No, no, it's what's obviously meant to be (as you called out) Lex Luthor. God forbid there be another genius attached to a corporation in Metropolis that ISN'T Lex. Won't be surprised if season 2 comes around and he's seized control of Amazotech to rebrand as Lexcorp. But enough about my frustrations with Ivo being their worst adapted character (which is wild, given the great things they did with Brain and Monsieur Mala in this incarnation).
@molegoddess
@molegoddess 4 ай бұрын
My soul left my body at the gag with Weird Al's Trapped in the Drive-Thru. My husband and I sing those lines at each other all the time, usually because our cat is doing a staring contest with one of us. Only halfway through the video at this point but loving it so far. I've never even heard of this show and have zero interest in seeing it (actually that applies to basically everything you make videos on) but I think you have great insights and well-made points and -- not to be weird -- I adore your accent, so I'm all the way here for everything you put out.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
You seem like an exceedingly boring person
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
You seem like a boring person
@SsnakeBite
@SsnakeBite 3 ай бұрын
I've been thoroughly enjoying these videos. Your analysis is very interesting and shows nuance and perspective that are very refreshing to see on KZfaq, plus the way your narration and editing are just very pleasing.
@flaredesel3425
@flaredesel3425 3 ай бұрын
These videos are so well done that it’s sad you don’t have more subscribers. You consistently make great content and we appreciate that greatly!
@c-puff
@c-puff 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man :D Best I can do is keep at it and hope for slow growth over time! 👍But I like making these so it's ok.
@80yearoldman98
@80yearoldman98 4 ай бұрын
WOAH WOAH WOAH COOL INTRO
@jcudejko
@jcudejko 4 ай бұрын
This is awesome to come out so early on a Saturday and I hope you are doing well C-Puff!! edit: awesome new intro!
@Balevolt
@Balevolt 2 ай бұрын
Would you accept emotional manipulation for Lois? Because that's what the women were like when they did it to me.
@waddledee8387
@waddledee8387 17 күн бұрын
I'm glad you talked about Lois' character because from the few episodes I saw, I couldn't really bring myself to like her and you put it into words
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
Lois’ energy is all wrong in this show. Lois Lane is supposed to be a hard boiled noir protagonist. She’s a cynical chain smoker who falls in love with a cinnamon roll with the strength of a Greek god.
@thantrus
@thantrus 4 ай бұрын
I love that description of Superman. A cinnamon roll with the strength of a Greek god. lol
@anthonyackerman7914
@anthonyackerman7914 3 ай бұрын
Adaptation argument
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 3 ай бұрын
huh?@@anthonyackerman7914
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
Almost as if that's outdated?
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 2 ай бұрын
How is that outdated? they're just personality traits.@@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@xerocubed2005
@xerocubed2005 4 ай бұрын
I'm really liking the new intro 👍🏾
@skywise001
@skywise001 4 ай бұрын
They made a worse version of Lex Luthor. (I miss mad scientist Luthor). Its like they looked at the travesty of the movie luthor and said ok so just above that bar. Everyone can be their own superman and when everyone is special no one is. Its the Incredibles bad message. I do miss the redhead Jimmy.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
Ivo might bother me the most in this show. The Parasite is one of my favorite Superman villains because of his simplicity. Like, you know all those guys who say "Superman makes no sense, anyone with powers like his would get drunk on the power and end up terrorizing people"? The Parasite is that guy. A petty, entitled, unremarkable man who looked at Superman and said "if I had strength like him, I'd show the world they were dumb to ignore and belittle me," and then he gets the power to steal Superman's strength and becomes a monster. It is the banality of his evil that makes him an interesting foil for Clark Kent beyond just being a strong villain with a gimmick that forces him to be clever.
@martinnquipildor7753
@martinnquipildor7753 4 ай бұрын
Agh! Yeah, I remember some of thise! It's so juvenile and boring. I could accept it if it was only the main characters, and then only if they were done properly (which they aren't as you well said with Loise and Jimmy) but also the villains? What I hate the most about this is how same-y the villains are. They all look the same, talk the same, and in general have similar powers because everything has to be this alien super-tech. Also 'we are the good guys' says the guy with a freaking skull mask! They could at least try! Also, also, I miss the times when Waller was the one putting her foot down to stop her crazy henchmen from blowing up civilians, instead of pushing for it. I miss Justice League when she was complicated. Great intro by the way.
@darkknightfan7520
@darkknightfan7520 4 ай бұрын
I’m the kind of person who has initial excitement when I watch something, especially a piece of media that appeals to me as a dc fan (and after watching the show clearly it wasn’t), I thought Lois was better than amber or teela from the he-man reboot because she had her history living a life of lies and the direction at the start lead me to believe that it’d be a character flaw that would’ve been explored & resolved. But no, she’s practically worse yet similar to those two because of what she did and she never even bothers to understand Clark’s pov! I cannot stand that the male heroes just buckling down excepting that keeping their life a secret to protect everyone in his civilian life safe is a terrible thing to do and they’re bad for not instantly telling a woman that they aren’t even committed to after years of knowing each other yet!
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
Someone gets no bitches
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 ай бұрын
The whole point of Teela's arc was realizing Adam had good intentions, there's literally an entire scene in the afterlife where ancient heroes are praising Adam for being such a good person. But I guess the GamerGate crowd don't have media literacy
@DavidtheSlothClassic
@DavidtheSlothClassic 4 ай бұрын
Great video, was super interesting, and yeah, I agree that shows with great wasted potential are the most frustrating ones to watch, is a big reason I don't watch some shows like this. They do make for the most interesting type of show to talk about though, which is ALSO why I often love to find videos of people discussing them.
@RockStock6
@RockStock6 4 ай бұрын
With this new intro i can finally stop subliminally thinking its MJ "Somebody's Watching Me" song
@zom8979
@zom8979 2 ай бұрын
I hate that youtubes notification alerts are 50/50 I'm just know seeing this came out
@weirdguy1495
@weirdguy1495 3 ай бұрын
Ivo just feels like a less cringe version of BVS!Lex Luthor.
@TechmarineChris
@TechmarineChris 4 ай бұрын
Why do the mutants look exactly like Gurren Lagann designs? What is with this show borrowing its visual identity from other sources so much?
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
No no see it's a ✨HOMAGE✨
@JAZ_2002
@JAZ_2002 4 ай бұрын
Yoooo the new intro update just dropped
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
1:05:50 - You know who that lady was supposed to be? Mick Rory, aka Heat Wave, the psychopatic buddy of Captain Cold from the Flash's rogues gallery. No idea why she is a lady now, or why they use her as a Superman villain, if they wanted a fire based enemy who is a woman, there is Volcana... But like you, I completely missed this is supposed to be Heat Wave because the show has such abysmal designs for the stupid new technology. The designs just do not stand out.
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
I saw some reddit posts naming her as Heatwave and originally thought I mentioned that in the script, but it's such a bit of NOTHING about this character it ended up not being worth mentioning because she might as well be an unnamed generic goon.
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
17:05 - Huh Clancy Brown was in Detroit - Become Human? Playing basically himself? Reminds me he was the best Lex Luthor ever... while here, I am pretty sure Ivo's tech dude is gonna be Luthor...
@danielmorgan2404
@danielmorgan2404 4 ай бұрын
New opening animation is a banger! Love the video, and your analysis videos are great.
@SsnakeBite
@SsnakeBite 3 ай бұрын
1:46:12 - "I think selling faith should be left to the Church." - What a fantastic line!
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
My problem with Lois’ outfit is that it fire t match her traditional color scheming. Every character in Superman has a set of colors they’re associated with, and Lous’ are purple, black, and white.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
Jimmy is green orange yellow, Lex is green purple black, and Clark should be obvious.
@slimer44producciones3
@slimer44producciones3 Ай бұрын
1:06:04 jesus christ she looks like she is about to tell me Superman's power level is over 9000
@fernandotredinnick7443
@fernandotredinnick7443 4 ай бұрын
Really cool new intro!!! Your analysis videos are great!!! About Lois‘s scene, it was a bad thing to do, although the Golden & Silver Age Lois did the same thing except for a way more dumber reason: “Oh, I want to speak with Superman, of course! I will jump out the window and Superman will save me” Maybe the writers wanted to make a reference to those scenes (that were played for comedy, but are bad). In the comics the Brain and Monsieur Mallah had a relationship while being supervillains; I like the MAwS version of these characters; also, both of them have better voices in the latin spanish dub. Area 52 is a real place. I like this show, it has flaws but also has good things. Hopefully the second season will have more episodes, then the pacing & writing will be better.
@erikbihari3625
@erikbihari3625 4 ай бұрын
This officially confirms it, the last truly great dc show(animated or otherwise), was Batman the brave and the bold(wich i highly recommend you c puff, or anyone else reading to just check out)!
@gunfighter009
@gunfighter009 19 күн бұрын
Lois in the original comics would throw herself off a building yes but it was for the much less creepy and entitled and much more relateable reason: she wanted to beat traffic to work and jumped off a building so superman would give her a ride. It's much more fun psychotic and less mean than this lois.
@dontree1977
@dontree1977 4 ай бұрын
Great as always
@monkeydkeithii2430
@monkeydkeithii2430 4 ай бұрын
I recommend watching Invincible not just because I think it’s a good show but to understand why people compare Lois to Amber
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
I would but I have so much else to watch 😩 ....like Kamen Rider Kuuga
@auralunaprettycure
@auralunaprettycure 4 ай бұрын
@@c-puff I’m literally watching kuuga rn my bf got me to. It’s funny both are on the same streaming service XD
@thantrus
@thantrus 4 ай бұрын
@@c-puff Godai is such a doofus. I love him.
@JTHMSqueeMrEffDBoy
@JTHMSqueeMrEffDBoy 4 ай бұрын
Wow. I didn't know the full context of the "building jump" scene, but I do remember seeing a lot of people argue about it when it first aired. Now that I've seen all the context behind it....yeah, that was really bad, I agree with you completely. It really feels like this show has a weird problem of wanting to have its cake and eat it too, in this case wanting to have big dramatic moments that would normally lead to big character drama, introspection, and development, while still wanting to keep the characters, or at least "wild Lois," the same as they/she started as. It's almost like a weird variant of "status quo is god" or something. Also, man, I really do hate it when a film/show/game/etc starts off interesting and investable, only to completely drop the ball as it goes on. Really feels like you just wasted your time and that pisses me off. It's also shitty when a work can be pretty good one minute and really lame the next, that can really put you in a torn state, where you're debating whether it's better to put up with the bad to see the good or whether the bad is just not worth dealing with to see the good. I commend you for sticking through this to give us your full analysis of it, it seems like a frustrating show to have to watch. I also thought it was cool that you went into the history and details of the kind of dress Lois was wearing to get a better understanding of its history and context, and why it didn't seem to work for you in the way it was implemented with Lois, I thought that was pretty cool, and I felt like I learned something from it too. Also also, I have to admit, I started "bubbadubbabubbing" when the Neverhood music came on (I'm a dork). Also also also, really nice new intro, C-Puff, it's pretty slick. (Wow, I say "also" a lot, jeez).
@nananamamana3591
@nananamamana3591 19 күн бұрын
AHHHHHH KZfaq DIDNT NOTIFY ME!!!! I missed a Cpuff upload, MORE than ONE! I feel so ashamed.
@monsterslurpee7212
@monsterslurpee7212 4 ай бұрын
Waking up to a c puff video? Great way to start my Saturday!
@dand1253
@dand1253 3 ай бұрын
50:15 - My impression was that Clark discarded Ivo as a possible source because A) The armor didn't have a crystal like the other gadgets B) the armor didn't trigger any mysterious visions when he encountered it
@Mamg-Art
@Mamg-Art 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow, such a treat for Sunday! Almost 2 hours of listening to you talk about gay french gorilla! I also loved the gay french gorilla. I'd love to see an actual story about the gay french gorilla. Ever since I saw the Lois jump scene I wondered... what if you were wrong, Ma'am? What if you just splatter on the road? I know the call of the void is real but come on, have a brain. You can get hurt in more ways without actually risking permanent body damage. (and also boo for forcing your friend to out himself like this, boo) Not a fan of how Lois is portrayed. But wait! There's more!
@auralunaprettycure
@auralunaprettycure 4 ай бұрын
Gay French gorilla was absolutely the best part of the show. It seems side characters that are way better than the mains is a trend for several crew members of this show
@supernew10doh64
@supernew10doh64 4 ай бұрын
1:27:29 Clark is almost always the real person not the disguise in most incarnations of Superman he arrives on Earth with no memory of anything regarding Krypton he gets second-hand accounts of what Krypton was like from a supercomputer that is sent along with him but he doesn't know anything about what Krypton was actually like. Superman is a disguise he puts on to help save people And while there are some aspects of Clark that are fabricated such as his clumsiness and nerdy demeanor who Clark is at his core is the real person.
@danguy9634
@danguy9634 2 ай бұрын
Another excellent video which expertly breaks down my own personal feelings towards this show. Sorry if I end up giving you another essay with this response, but I'd like to share my own additional thoughts on certain things you brought up in this video, along with stuff I also noticed on my own while watching. First of all, you are right on the money when it comes to Lois' dress in this just looking bland as hell. Even if she is more of a tomboy in this, it doesn't mean she can't wear something like a nice cocktail dress to help contrast her normal attire with her special event attire. Heck, since the color has been noticeably absent on this Lois' wardrobe, why not make the dress purple? Lois has been associated with the color purple for years, and having it finally appear at an event where she dresses a bit more "traditionally" feminine would be a good way to call back to it. Heck, why isn't purple part of her regular outfit in general? It could look good on her. Honestly, sorry for a tangent, but I kinda wish modern American creators weren't so afraid of letting their more tomboy-ish characters have their "she cleans up nicely" moments and show that owning their femininity can be a strength. They don't need to make all female characters look like Playboy Models, but some actual variety like we used to have would be nice. As for Doctor Ivo, I'm not against reinterpretations of older characters, but they took a little-known character whose most well-known accomplishment is creating another villain, Amazo, and just made him into another generic tech-bro character. Not exactly the biggest upgrade, if you ask me. And you're right on the money when it comes to making him so one-dimensional in his villainy, all because the showrunners wanted to make an overly simple "Tech Bro/Musk Bad" type of villain. And a simple "Love to Hate" kind of villain isn't a huge problem on its own, but it's when they're nothing more than a pathetic hate sink the audience is just meant to boo and hiss at is when I have a problem, especially if they're some shallow jab at a real-life person or archetype. It's why I don't like villains like Horde Prime from Netflix She-Ra, the Director from Nimona, the Bishop from Netflix Castlevania, or Emperor Belos from The Owl House (and I actually think the last one could've been a better villain if the show was able to show more of his backstory properly), and I feel like it's an annoying trend among modern American writers. You mentioned before that in the 80s there used to be a bunch of villains modeled after Donald Trump, but they walked the fine line of being intimidating threats in their own right while also not letting the fact that they're based off of a real person get in the way of their writing. Nowadays, there's a whole bunch of flat, uninteresting villains created by modern writers who can be summed into the categories of, if you'll permit me to use the phrase, "Orange Man Bad", "Fundamentalist Zealot Bad", "Techbro Guy Bad", etc., without doing anything to make them interesting or fun, or even going into why they believe the things they do. We're just supposed to seethe, boo, and hiss at them because the author says so, and they assume we obsessively hate the real-life inspiration(s) for these villains just as much as they do. Plus, there's the fact that by combining Ivo with another Superman villain, Parasite (with a few things from a few incarnations of Amazo), you kinda miss the point of Parasite by taking away the tragedy of the character. Yes, there's been several characters who've taken up the name "Parasite" in DC Comics over the years, but the trend among most of them is that their stories are supposed to be tragedies of regular guys who end up getting mutated into monsters, and are forced to resort to a life of crime. Here, with Ivo being so intentionally unlikable, it kinda misses the point of Parasite as a concept. Not to say that there haven't been assholes who've taken up the Parasite name, but I feel like this a half-baked take on the character. Not to mention that we're so quickly introduced to Ivo as a villain, as well as the reason why he turns to villainy (which, now that I think about it, is basically a rushed version of Norman Osborn's/Green Goblin's backstory in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man) that it feels hard to take him seriously, especially as a guy who forms a grudge against Clark. I could easily see a reworked version of this episode where we're introduced to Ivo earlier, where he starts off as kind of a dick, but does seemingly want to improve humanity, even if it's so he can take the credit for doing it. However, as he repeatedly uses the Parasite suit to not only show he's better than Superman at saving people, but also to show his company how he's still needed there, he becomes addicted to the suit's power and his already fragile mind snaps as he goes full-on supervillain, but Superman saves him anyway and we get the same line Clark gives in the actual episode. This change makes Ivo more than just a bland hate sink, and explores the nature and ideals of Superman as well. Speaking of tech villains, a friend of mine pointed out how this version of Ivo feels more like another DC villain, Dr. T.O. Morrow (yeah, DC is filled with characters who have silly names), creator of the Red Tornado, and I guess the reason why they didn't use Morrow is because Ivo's first name in the comics is also Anthony, so they wanted an excuse to create an evil version of Tony Stark for this show, which explains why they made Parasite into a mech suit. As for Jimmy, while he isn't exactly "bad" when it comes to his actual personality, you're onto something when you say that show doesn't really know what to do with him other than be the "plucky comic relief" and being a "Fanfic Sokka", thus leading to him feeling like he's sidelined most of the time. And once again, they decided to race-swap him, and went forward with making him the character they either use solely for comic relief or someone they don't know what to do with at all... I'm not saying anything intentionally malicious is going on here, but it just doesn't help my theory that a lot of the modern writers and showrunners who claim to want "diverse" shows and characters don't exactly know how to write those diverse characters well, even if they're in a certain group the character they're writing for (for example, you pointing out how some of the staff of this are LGBT, and they absolutely botched the metaphor for Superman being "outed"). Now for Lois, her moment of outing Clark by jumping was the moment where I stopped thinking this show was just simply "mid" or average, and honestly started to feel like it was really annoying. Not only was that moment really stupid, but it and the rest of the narrative did everything in its power to make Lois look right for doing something mindnumbingly idiotic. People have pointed out that she's done that sort of thing in the past in the comics and movies, but as you said, not only were they played for laughs, the narrative always punished Lois for doing something so dumb in the first place. Not to mention, when that trope was introduced, it was back during the Golden Age, and especially prevalent during the Silver Age, the latter of which was an era where she was constantly doing insane things to either get Superman to reveal his secret identity or get Superman to marry her. Most of these antics would often end in the punchline being something like "Oh, Lois, you silly, silly woman! It was foolish and stupid of you to engage in such tomfoolery!", and the narrative would punish her for it. When writers of the Bronze Age and DC's Post-Crisis Era came onboard, they looked at those older stories and realized that they made Lois come across as unlikable, along with the fact that some were even made with an "old-fashioned" mindset, so they stopped doing that bit of Lois intentionally putting herself in danger for a long time, and it only ever came back so it could be put into a more serious context so it's no longer the punchline of a joke but more realistically saying "Holy shit, Lois! You could've gotten yourself killed!", and dealing with the consequences of said actions. This show wants to do something like the latter, but unlike all those other situations, it once again comes back to the narrative of the story, and how this time Lois isn't called out for such a reckless and manipulative move. I once again hate to speculate on it being a social issue thing, but it feels like a lot of modern Western media seems to often treat writing female characters like its walking on eggshells, whether it be being overly concerned with them having "flaws", or whether or not a story's narrative treats them too harshly, and so we over-correct with stuff like the recent attempts at "female empowerment" we've seen from Disney and other companies, trying to make the female characters "quirky" or "chaotic", or trying to constantly have the narrative have them in the right so we don't come off as being "mean" to them.
@danguy9634
@danguy9634 2 ай бұрын
But all in all, probably the biggest reason it just doesn't work is that it's yet another poorly done "liar revealed" story, and those the types of stories that most people get sick of if they're done in such a poor manner like this. It always relies on both parties taking stupid pills so they don't have the common sense to stop and just talk with one another, and it causes a huge detour in the story because we know it's gonna get resolved later on. Not to mention this type of story is coming in halfway through the season, when it feels more like a story that would be saved for season 2 or the like. Yes, I know studios suck nowadays and the fear of premature cancelation is very real, so creators wanna tell their stories as quickly as possible, but that doesn't excuse just how painfully cliche and annoying this reveal was. Heck, you could've actually been clever with Clark's outing and have Lois be upset at first, but then when Jimmy reveals he knew Clark was Superman before Lois did, Lois has a moment of clarity and self-reflection where she realizes she's been unreasonable towards Clark, and for bonus points you could have her realize just how much of a hypocrite she's actually been, and while Clark being so secretive around her wasn't helping things, she shouldn't have forced him out like that. Again, there's so much room for character development with this show, and the show just doesn't take advantage of those opportunities. Again, I don't hate this show, but it's so damn frustrating to watch as a long-time Superman and DC Comics fan. Speaking of frustrating things, going back to the villains, I think it really needs to be brought up how a lot of these changes to them just feel like a downgrade, or too different for their own good. For example, remember that villain with fire tech in that episode? Well, apparently she does have a name, but she's a genderbent version of a Flash villain named Heat Wave. On one hand, it's nice that they're actually adapting a villain who was tech-based to begin with, instead making a non-tech villain a tech-based one, but while comic Heat Wave's outfit was basic, MAWS's Heat Weave just has random white pieces of armor for an outfit. Again, not the most creative choice. As for characters who feel a bit too different, while I do agree with you that this show's versions of the Brain and Monsieur Mallah (the latter being the gay french gorilla) are entertaining on their own, it's also another case of this show making what are basically original characters who only bear a slight resemblance to their comic book counterparts, since those guys are villains in the source material, and are enemies of a team known as the Doom Patrol. Both groups actually appeared in the 2003 Teen Titans cartoon, but the Brain and Mallah weren't explicitly said to be lovers there, likely due to censorship at the time, even if they were in the comics at that point... yeah, it's a long story involving Grant Morrison's run on the Doom Patrol. I guess they didn't want to make their show's first big named onscreen gay couple outright villains. Not that the versions of Brain and Mallah in this show aren't funny characters, but it's just another one of this show's many strange choices when it comes to adapting characters. And it's only gonna get stranger next time when you cover a certain imp from the 5th Dimension. P.S. I forgot to bring this up in the last video, but while I do think adding a language barrier between Clark and Jor-El is a neat twist in theory, given what happens in the season finale, I'm afraid that they're gonna try to make what happened Krypton in this show into some kind of "Mystery Box" where there's some twist to the origin of Superman, and I'm worried on just how they'll execute it, as well as how long they'll drag the mystery out for. Given certain leaks from the story bible that came out a while ago, if they do go down a certain direction for this version of Krypton, then I don't know how I'll feel about that. Anyways, hope you don't mind the "little" essay, and I wish you the best of luck on the next few parts in reviewing this show. It's not exactly all bad, as I said, but you're definitely gonna need it.
@kazekamiha
@kazekamiha 2 ай бұрын
Compare this with BTAS. BTAS took what the comics had done, distilled it, kept what worked and changed what didn't. In doing so it created characters that have since lasted (Harley Quinn, Renee Montoya) or redefined them in a manner that the comics copied (Two-Face, Mr. Freeze). In some ways MAWS throws out some of what should be kept, tosses out others and adds a mixed bag.
@kwayneboy1524
@kwayneboy1524 Ай бұрын
Much like that Batman 2004 series
@kazekamiha
@kazekamiha Ай бұрын
@@kwayneboy1524 The Batman?
@kwayneboy1524
@kwayneboy1524 Ай бұрын
@@kazekamiha yeah that one
@joaovicente0003
@joaovicente0003 4 ай бұрын
Brain and Mounsieur Mallah were one of the main villains in the classic Teen Titans cartoon's final season (I dont think they were a couple there tho hehe)
@CompSomAnichi
@CompSomAnichi 4 ай бұрын
50:00 This part is sending me KDJFLKDS:jf AND THE CLIP AFTER LOL
@ffx2player
@ffx2player 2 ай бұрын
Ok, like over a month late, let’s do this! SPOILERS IF YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE VID YET Lois and that moment on the roof and the whole fall(fail). I have to preface this with, I am a creative writer, as a hobby, as a lifestyle, like my brain does it all the time. So when I see people take things like this, this incredible moment when you have a golden opportunity to do something awesome… And they shred it. They burn it to ash, they DESTROY this awesome chance, it KILLS me. It is such a great opportunity to go, "Hey toxic relationships are a thing and they should not be supported." SO many ways to save this. Fast Way(because media is short these days and it SUCKS): Clark immediately goes, “I’m sorry Lois, but I’m extremely uncomfortable with how you manipulated me, and also very worried about your mental state. I’m taking you to a hospital.” They fly to the hospital and mental ward, and the nurse asks why to admit her? “She tried to jump off a building to make me share something intensely personal. I managed to stop her. I think she needs help.” Lois could scream Clark is Superman for 100 days straight, it’s a MENTAL WARD. My wife works in one. Do you know how many people there have met not only Superman, but also God, Jesus, Elvis, and any number of Archangels?! He doesn’t even have to say he jumped off and flew after her. It’s implied he stopped her without lying. Wordsmith if you like. Lois sees the look on the nurse's face(horror, disgust, disbelief leaking through professional mask), and she has a change of heart. She attends therapy and maybe gets discharged next episode/between episodes. Lois, Jimmy, and Clark talk off-screen (implied by onscreen dialogue) and she is welcomed back into the group with the understanding that boundaries are now set. She still has therapy, or hey, how about a group for people who had bad parents? She mentions tools from time to time. When she starts to backslide, Jimmy and Clark call her out. She corrects. Not perfect, but better than whatever the HELL this is! You can show that seeking mental health help is good, and people change but you can still have healthy boundaries and time can make things better. The long route would be say, Lois doesn't get admitted, but neither Clark nor Jimmy has anything but a professional relationship with her. Because she won’t get help. She begins to question if she's like her dad. She seeks help. A repeat of the above, but with more time this could be smoothed and the journey more realistic. Sadly, most media these days doesn't get this timescale. The even worse part is yeah, the next episode. At that point, I just started mumbling, “Bitch, Bitch, Bitch.” under my breath because, yeah. There’s no other way for me to put it. Ugh. It’s just, it’s so SAD they destroy this excellent moment to write something good, for writing pure crap. ARGHHHHHHHH.
@jymjym7995
@jymjym7995 4 ай бұрын
good to see the video is out of copyright hell. keep up the good work and also i have a question, i don't remember if maybe you got into it in the previous video. but what is a well written romance? can you maybe give an example and at least slightly analyze it? it would make superman and lois' case a lot more understandable. it is also a question i wonder about from time to time and i wonder what you have to say. 29:21 damnit, i really wanted to see you talk about one my favorite villains. hope you do eventually make a video about kung-fu panda
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
Oh I fully intend to go deep into the way this show writes romance and why it absolutely fails at it completely. Also I'm gonna do my best to make a comparison to a well written romance which isn't Mass Effect 😂
@jymjym7995
@jymjym7995 4 ай бұрын
@@c-puff might as well do mass effect. it would be consistent with the C-puff lore, plus its got some good romance in it.
@wish154
@wish154 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact, back in the earlier days of youtube you could make a reply video to other people's videos. It was fun to go down a trail of reply after reply and see where it led. About 45 minutes in so I don't know if you address it in this video, but to answer a complaint you had in the first video about this series regarding how the hands of black people are colored, some of them like it and some don't. But the ones that do say that it really depends on how well it is blended in. It's like an uncanny valley to them because while it is true to reality if the coloring isn't done right then it doesn't feel right. My source is following Jaxblade on twitter and seeing him retweet some stuff regarding this topic.
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
Ah thank you! That's actually really good information to have! Especially since I can only speak from an art perspective. But I guess I should have known it's not as simple as "have or have not" and that there are perhaps better ways to colour it so it's not a distracting part of the design.
@AndrewSnake
@AndrewSnake 3 ай бұрын
This was good, but the Jimmy bit knowing Superman secret was kinda odd, i mean you did point out how comical there make Superman brake stuff so much is a running gag, is kinda a contradiction of character be stupid, have cartoony intelligentor modern intelligent. Like if he could discover this, anyone can ... And that kinda more a comic think and the era Superman was creat, you cant hidden just with a pair of glasses acting weak while your build as a pro football player.... Kamen rider !? This be interesting
@serpenttailedangel
@serpenttailedangel 3 ай бұрын
The hanbok outfit is doing its job because I assumed Lois was Hispanic in this cartoon until you showed me that outfit. (JK. I thought she was culturally appropriating when you showed it. Thank you for telling me outright that she is Korean before getting into the details of hanbok styles or else I'd still think she's Hispanic.) Tbh tho the roof jump scene could have been good if it put their relationship on the rocks by having Clark be the one who felt betrayed. If Lois had to spend the whole next episode trying to prove that she could learn to respect other people's boundaries and concocted an apology where she could admit that other people are allowed to have their own business separate from her that they can choose to tell her (or not) on her own terms then that could have progressed the plot with her knowing about Superman, introduced the relationship drama they wanted, AND put the blame for the fight on the correct side. You could even get a nice moment where Lois keeps trying to approach Clark and do something to prove she's a good person while he keeps backing off and calling it out as performative, and when Lois does prove herself to Clark, it's by forgetting score points with him because she's so worried about Jimmy. Having her continue to fret over Jimmy when they find him without noticing that she and Clark are getting along again could also go towards resolving Jimmy's grievances.
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Ай бұрын
Lois being Korean is one of the reasons why I'm not big fan of her redesign. Like how am I supposed to tell of she's Asian when you made her look like a Luiz knockoff? (The main reason why I don't like Lois here. She reminds me of the Owl House.)
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 4 ай бұрын
So if you were forced to babysit one of them, who would you tolerate more readily, Sage or Lois?
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
I would say Lois because she's not as bad as Sage, but I think she might be in danger of setting the house on fire so maybe Sage who is a worse character but at least less likely to cause physical damage
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 4 ай бұрын
I liked that a show finally used the Brain and Monsieur Mallah properly as a couple - the Doom Patrol sadly made them break up - but what I disliked is that they are now just nerdy scientists and not villains. They actually even did a lot of rather villanous stuff, but the show glosses over that as if it was nothing... And yes, I would TOTALLY prefer to watch their adventures instead of Lois and Clark's too. Which is why it annoys me they were written out of the whole show by escaping to a new dimension at the end of this episode. What a waste!
@c-puff
@c-puff 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, the glossing over the villain-ness stuff as a form of comedy is what I liked about them in this episode, but I think it only works because they are only in this one episode. So it works because its funny, but if they stuck around I'm guessing they wouldn't work as characters in a show like this. You COULD write them as complex and interesting because they are NOT good people... but they are... but they're not. But I don't know if that's something this show could pull of.
@BrianMcKee
@BrianMcKee 4 ай бұрын
It's a stream of video because streams go through the tubes! THE YOU TUBES!
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
I want to make it clear that the French gorilla being gay is very much canon in the DC universe.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
Although in the comics they are both extremely evil.
@jonathannoble7845
@jonathannoble7845 4 ай бұрын
like, world domination evil
@fierstein7126
@fierstein7126 4 ай бұрын
they could've easily given Lois a short skirt in the gala scene (rather than a longer, conservative gown or skirt), it would've showcased her personality (energetic, unconventional etc) without basically having her wearing street clothes.
@daltonbecker4494
@daltonbecker4494 2 ай бұрын
Or just turn the pants into tights if they are really insistent on having her legs covered.
@jcudejko
@jcudejko 4 ай бұрын
29:23 ya know what, I'm here for the tangents I'm not so much 'get on with it' as 'what else do you think' 54:41 GREAT reference, nice work! 57:11 ...eh? WOW they f'd that up
@platinumraven118
@platinumraven118 4 ай бұрын
I have actually seen the sparkling like button and subscribe on Computer KZfaq, and it has genuinely made me remember to like a video I was enjoying in the background by catching my eye cause I have it in theater mode so can still see the buttons(edited for crimes agianst spelling)
@CompSomAnichi
@CompSomAnichi 4 ай бұрын
1:36:15 HELLO?? IS THAT SERIOUSLY GURREN LAGANN? Is this okay? This isnt a reference is it Hejdjdjdj
@0Defensor0
@0Defensor0 4 ай бұрын
I think it counts more as a ripoff than a reference, C-Puff made a tangent about the difference in High Guardian Spice. And Bandai/Sunrise would also like to get their Ball (RB-79C "Ver.Ka" was the most likely reference I believe) back!
@CompSomAnichi
@CompSomAnichi 4 ай бұрын
I remember, hse also made a tangent about it in the last superman, and I get what you mean but was too lazy to explain but yeah, the ripoff thing. NO WAIT, UR SO RIGHT, coz they didn't even make their own animation to reference, they just straight up took that angle and ran with it. @@0Defensor0
@AdamFishkin
@AdamFishkin 4 ай бұрын
(comment part 2 of 2) Since you've gotten to Lois doing The Thing, I've racked my brain for a comparison point and thought of only one: King Zog from Disenchantment. I got through both parts of season 1 before my piggyback Netflix account was revoked as an option, and it was enough to clue me into a similar flaw to Matt Groening's writing as the one Josie Campbell displays with MAWS. Groening came off Futurama with a confidence in his long-term arc building that doesn't match the results we got (pride cometh before the fall), especially when you take into account the father-daughter relationship between Zog and Bean he uses to form the heart of Disenchantment. I won't spoil it here, suffice to say a pivotal decision in the 2nd part of s1 undermined pretty much everything Groening was going for. If you've seen it, you know why I compare Zog and Lois. As for the Ratatouille comparison, I'm surprised. DC series (regardless of live-action or animation) haven't been the kind of thing I give the benefit of the doubt to reach half the level of even the lower end of Pixar films, let alone a best-of-Pixar contender from one of the absolute masters among writer/directors in animation. Brad Bird would never put Superman and Lois in that position in the first place; his threading of tragic flaws through a narrative doesn't really take such ludicrous bait. The 3D brain robot and the gay French gorilla are indeed so left field for DC that without the Superman context I would've mistaken this for a Marvel series. Area 52 is not a DC thing. The reason I know this is because by happenstance I recognize it referencing the Nevada desert subplot of Looney Tunes Back in Action. No I am not joking, MAWS is making a callback to a Looney Tunes film that paired Bugs and Daffy with Brendan Fraser. 1:29:34 "Jimmy, shut up" is the most rational response I've heard all day. And last but not least, a friendly announcement for the sake of others reading this: no TikTok is good TikTok.
@camafterdark276
@camafterdark276 4 ай бұрын
so ✨kawaii✨ uwu
@mpd1732
@mpd1732 4 ай бұрын
Random thoughts of enjoyment: -Man, I wanted to say in the last one too, but this is really cool for me to see how neat Superman's rouges gallery is. I always found his storylines sounded boring and now I suspect that it's because in most Superman media that reached my knowledge, his villains were always the boring Lex Luther, the dull Kripton somebody, or the bland as toast heroes he's fighting for some reason. Based on the art shown in the last video, they look heckin awesome. That's why I've been more drawn to the batman and x-men in terms of media entertainment, what with their vast and colored cast of equal value. -Loving all the Mass Effect clips you're adding in, lol. They get me hyped to see that story play out in your streams. -I got a pit in my stomach at the buildup to that Lois moment and a constant "Ooooooooo noooo, oh, oh oh-no..." during hearing that scene play out. It's just all kinds of bungled, init? I suspect tone. Yep, that's what I'll believe. -Oh my gosh, why was that episode with the French Gay Gorilla absolutely everything? It's the best, I loved every moment during that recap. It felt like the show was actually being everything it could be rather than this awkward feeling of stumbling around trying out different sizes of shoes. I'm serious, it feels like the writers could do a great job at a more lighthearted and goofy Superman series rather than the overly serious or muted one that seems to be stuck on it. -That moment with Jimmy and Clark and Lois happens: Ohhh NOOOOO!!! ...Ugh, it would be one thing if they entirely forgot and moved on, but you're telling me they wrote in this reconciliation moment and just spat in the face of it, only to then realize they actually DID want their characters to make up and then just chose a worse and half baked clique moment instead and not actually think about their own morals or opinions on this scenario even though from how they wrote the character's beginning dialogue they CLEARY understood Clarks motive and how friends SHOULD react??? And they went "NAH"??? For what reason?! -Ah, I was wondering about the opinions on the origins of Lois's character and how she was regarded in the narrative. I had chatted with my sibling on this matter and she had told me that there was apparently this narrative to her that my sib had heard that apparently she was meant to be someone Superman would "outsmart" in a rather derogatory sounding way? I'm not sure on the details or truth of this, but one things for sure when it came to me thinking about this new work, modern writing, making Lois and Clark an actual cute and great power couple and how *I* would write their interactions past meaningless interactions and fluff. I think it would have been an incredibly cute move on this to homage it and turn it into a "rivals to lovers" type story in part. Like I would keep Clark blushing over Lois, and have the rivals narrative entirely on Lois's perspective, where this chasing down Superman is that career rivalry rather than that identity story, where Clark may actually have more friendly banter with Lois going on while she reads Sups wrong and thinks this is him being rival-y and fueling her fire for this story. Like that thing with Clark that because she knows him it can help change her perception of Superman's motives leading to a similar thought-train reveal. I don't know, this is spit-balling merely because I'm not a fan of "because we said so" romances...
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 4 ай бұрын
I know taht's not the direction the show will take, but the "I hate liars and secrets" line from Lois could be explained by her knowing she's talking next to Clark/Superman, and furthermore inciting him to reveal himself by insisting taht she doesn't like secrets, even though it's not true. After all, if she's a liar, she could also be lying when she says she hate liars XD
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 4 ай бұрын
She seems to shoot a glare at him when emphasizing "liars" so you're probably not wrong. That is, if that glare wasn't just her hand.
@OgIKidd
@OgIKidd 4 ай бұрын
Based on everything highlighted and described about this show, between the changes to characters and Jimmy and Lois' sudden shift in character, I feel like it would've been a better idea to just create a new IP instead of trying to milk Superman. It wouldn't necessarily fix or eliminate the problems of the series, like writers treating characters like people should already know or feel something for characters who just pop up on screen with no prior appearance of them. If anything it would make that worse. But I have a feeling that had this been a new IP, it would've forced the writers to have to work just a little bit harder without the safety net of the Superman branding. Likewise, it might make viewers go a little easier on it as a brand new IP. A huge part of the Amber discourse from Invincible is that she basically is a cross between Jimmy and Lois from this series. Having already known that Mark was invincible, then dogging him out and dumping him for lying to her about being Invincible. Despite the fact that she's directly witnessed, or could piece together the very clear reasoning behind why Mark wouldn't risk telling ANYONE his secret. For context without major spoilers, as far as Mark and literally everyone else in the world knew, their version of the Justice League had just been assassinated. All except Mark's father, their Superman, who was temporarily in a coma. Likewise, whoever did it could literally be anyone, and use any means to figure out who specific heroes are without the mask, and target loved ones. Which means that parties not already in the know are all a potential risk. Which in a roundabout way pays off in the very next episode when the person who actually did assassinate the Justice League goes looking for Mark.... and interrogates Marc's best friend. This all coming after Mark having had to save this same friend once before already. Had this enemy known who Mark was under the mast, could've used his friend as bait and better leverage. In a separate instance after that, Mark having been beaten to near death in an encounter with a new, threat that beats the shit out of the new Justice League single-handedly. Who, to their knowledge because they still don't know, could possibly be the exact same threat that killed the original Justice League. Meanwhile, Amber is holding a secret grudge because Mark is lying to her about being a superhero and flaking on her about going to parties, and/or serving food to homeless people at the pantry with her. Mind you there was legit reasoning to give her about being pissed with him potentially putting her in danger without giving her a real choice in the matter by withholding that he's a superhero. But instead they went with, "I'm mad at you because you lied to me," like these writers did with Lois and Jimmy.... The dumbest shit reasoning ever.
@CompSomAnichi
@CompSomAnichi 4 ай бұрын
Whie I agree with the new IP, i think they did Clark pretty good, but maybe Lois and Jimmy should have gone into another IP because this Clark is pretty nice imo.
@imaniislander755
@imaniislander755 4 ай бұрын
Yeah another video from you 😃
@imaniislander755
@imaniislander755 4 ай бұрын
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@mpd1732
@mpd1732 4 ай бұрын
I feel in my opinion that if your tomboy character is written well enough or is well established enough then it shouldn't be a problem or that "out of character" per se to have them in a nice enough dress one time. I'm a big fan of blended aesthetics so I get really irritated when people or company shows like these creatives think there are some arbitrary hard lines to them. (Can't have the tomboy, sporty girl wear the color pink on a small bit of her jersey, or otherwise the universe shall explode */sarcasm*) Think: the "cores" having crossovers, hobbitcore shares traits with vintagecore, goblincore, and forestcore or foragingcore, I'm sure that there's some flavor of human who has blending traditional clothing with their personal casual aesthetic wear, heck, I see it all the time personally with *my* culture. I know not many people have the opportunity or luxury to have that large cultural community in their area on an everyday basis, that's kind of that luck-of-the-draw "American Soup" thing that depends on minority population in a given area. But I can't deny, in terms of Lois's new heritage and how it affects the costuming, it leans more towards that "picked Korean and now do some Pinterest research" style rather than "chose the one I'm a part of because I have some personal experience and ideas we can do that I can to work into the story" style. Not to mention, while I like some in-character formalwear, I don't think I like it for this moment in the show. With the characters weirdly getting this absurdly big opportunity with so many big wigs, and it being an actual job they were handed, AND that they are still rookie interns it really seems like there should have been some HEAVY overhanging mandate on how presentable they were. Not to mention the plot has things set up PERFECTLY for Lois and Clark to have them adapt their outfits at the midpoint chat in the stairwell into something showing off their characters as they have their heart to heart chat about who they both really are. Imagine how much more badass Lois would look if when she had done that little outfit adaptation she would have done so with an entire hanbook or something to fashion it more towards her tomboy utility status oversized jacket again by using the excess fabric from her skirt, with some show how she had had her leggings still on underneath all the formality. (By the way, in my head Jimmy's outfit would be the same. I like it too and also he's a photographer, I think they tend to be more "behind the scenes/ in the background" in media and don't do the talking like the professional interviewers, so he can probably get away with a more lenient dress code)
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