My Brother Doesn’t Want His Son (We’re Adopting Him)

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@samanthasmiles9112
@samanthasmiles9112 3 ай бұрын
I want to cry right now. My husband and I took in our niece. Shes been living with us for awhile. It 100% changed the dynamica of our ENTIRE family. My SIL absolutely believes she should have the ability to do whatever she wants with her child without doing ANY of the work. It makes me feel insane. My SIL wont let us adopt our niece, so our hands are tied. If I were this caller, I would adopt the child and dont speak to the brother until the child turns 18. Trust me, Dr. John is right. The family dynamic is DONE. Everything is about to change.
@seattlegirl2077
@seattlegirl2077 3 ай бұрын
You are doing something better than many people do with their whole lives. Some heroes don't wear capes.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
I did a kinship adoption and bio mom has almost no contact due to her choice. I am most definitely mom and bio mom doesn’t have a way in how I raise my daughter. Good luck to you. I’m glad you’re there for your niece.
@legalavocado3447
@legalavocado3447 3 ай бұрын
I know someone who has done exactly what you are doing as far as serving as stepping in to parent a young girl that they have no actual legal right to be officially the parents. In their case, they aren't even related---the biological parents were just friends who were temporarily homeless and living at my friend's house with their baby girl. The parents moved out and it just sort of developed that their daughter ended up staying at my friend's house 99% of the time. My friend, her husband, and her extended family love this child with all of their hearts and it's been a delicate dance over the years to avoid pissing off the biological mother so that the bio mom doesn't assert her right to custody again. The good news is that the bio mom doesn't REALLY want to have the hassle of caring for her daughter and always ends up returning her quickly on those rare occasions that the child goes to visit. Baby girl is now thirteen and has done very well. At this point she is also old enough that she would make it almost impossible for her mother to keep her for any length of time, because the child has no interest in leaving the people who have become her true family. Above all, I hope that you remain in your niece's life as much as possible just being a NORMAL, loving, and positive presence---even if you can't get legal custody. I was raised by a single mother who did the best that she could but my upbringing was a little chaotic and solitary (never abusive though). Anyway, I would not be the well-adjusted adult that I am without those aunts and neighbors who welcomed me into their homes with positive love and nurturing stability.
@tamarahollenbeck2988
@tamarahollenbeck2988 3 ай бұрын
I have two family members who have done this, for family twice removed. Wouldn't dream of changing the child's name. I foster dogs and I WOULDN'T do that to a DOG!
@Objective-Observer
@Objective-Observer 3 ай бұрын
You need a family lawyer and you need Court Mandated Parenting Plans. Ask for a Guardian Ad Litem, to investigate all the possible plans and protocols that will be best for this child. You want to adopt her, the mother doesn't want that, but the mother isn't caring for the girl at all. So you need the Court's assistance to better define this arrangement moving forward. The Guardian Ad Litem [GAL] argues for the well being for the child, regardless what the adults believe. Let the GAL do the job of checking in with both sides and the GAL will know and prove what is best for that child. DON'T CONTACT CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. Since this was not done IN COURT to begin with, there are some legal inconsistencies, and you don't need 'law enforcement' mucking up the path moving forward. TAKE THE INITIATIVE, AND LET THE COURT ESTABLISH LEGAL PLANS, PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS FOR THE MOM AND YOURSELVES. If you haven't already, your family needs to see a Family Counselor, and the child would fare better with a counselor on her own. She needs the reassurance that she must tell the truth in court, as to where she feels better: her own mother or this new home. The counselor can also help her navigate balancing her well being in your home, with visitation with her mom, that she loves. Sure, mom can refuse to let you adopt, but the COURT MUST DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CHILD, AND THE COURT HAS THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE VISITATION SCHEDULING, HER PARENTING PLAN OF WHAT SHE MUST DO WITH THIS CHILD, HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE FOR THE CHILD, AND THE COURT CAN DEMAND CHILD SUPPORT TO YOU, FROM MOM! The Mom thinks she has all the control, but SHE ISN'T CARING FOR THE CHILD, THAT STRIPS A LOT OF CONTROL FROM HER. GET A LAWYER, GO TO COURT, GET A PARENTING PLAN IN PLACE WITH DEDICATED VISITATION DATES/TIMES, AND CHILD SUPPORT. See a Judge and a GAL will want to know: what is the end game of this arrangement? Are you keeping the child- temporarily- until mom can get a job and pay for the child? Or has mom decided she can't keep the child in her own home, and wants someone else to pay all the bills while she can manipulate the situation to her own best interest? You and your lawyer need to develop clear cut Plans, and options you would find acceptable: such as shared custody, where she pays you child support, when the girl is in your home. She SHOULD KEEP THE GIRL IN HER OWN HOME, SOME OF THE TIME. THAT IS HER RESPONSIBILITY. If she cannot do that, you need a JUDGE TO DEMAND SHE CARE FOR THE CHILD, PAY CHILD SUPPORT FOR THE CHILD, or the mother is not a good place for the child and terminate her rights. Try waching some of the Child Custody and Child Support hearings on KZfaq. They can be infuriating, but give you some insight into the process.
@eedwards4603
@eedwards4603 3 ай бұрын
Bless you for rescuing this child and giving him a stable life. Now, take him and RUN for your lives, away from your dysfunctional, drug-addicted family. You could give him a nickname and call him by that and change his legal name. By the time he needs to use that name (school), he will probably have forgotten his birth name. But please realize, once you are the legal father, you don't have to ask permission or get a poll on anything you do.
@PollyPatriot
@PollyPatriot 3 ай бұрын
When we adopted our grand daughter, we kept her name , but used her last name as a second middle name, just so she could have the same last name of her parents. We looked at it as adding something, rather than taking something from her; She had already lost so much.
@ahmritroets2596
@ahmritroets2596 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful!❤
@ahmritroets2596
@ahmritroets2596 3 ай бұрын
@Jane5720
@Jane5720 Жыл бұрын
I would not care if my brother didn’t like it or not, I would be concerned about the child
@samanthasmiles9112
@samanthasmiles9112 3 ай бұрын
As someone who was named after their abusive father, there is so much people don't understand. A name is such an important part of a child's identity. I normally would not agree with changing an adopted child's name (I adopted my niece, as well), and I did not change her name. However, when someone is named after an abusive loser (like I was), do them the favor and give them a name they LOVE and can feel proud of. Don't give them a name that makes them slightly sick. I even remenber looking at my name (as a kid) and HATING it. I told everyone how much I hated it. It reminded me of pain and abuse. I ended up changing my name when I got married. Even thinking of the name, I hate it. I would actually get the child involved! Pick a few names and ask him which one makes him feel GOOD and POWERFUL. Give him some choice over his own life. If the child really doesn't want to, I would honor his wishes. But I have a feeling he will be excited for this change. I would have been. Again, I dont think anyone should take changing a kids name lightly. But ask anyone who was named after their parent..... there is 100% identity wrapped in that name, and not always in a good way.
@HeatherViking1740
@HeatherViking1740 3 ай бұрын
Yes 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@tupelohoney622
@tupelohoney622 3 ай бұрын
I agree, except the child is two. It's not something a 2 year old can understand. Call your child by their middle name or give them a loving nickname. Our oldest son has his father's and grandfather's name but is called and strongly identifies with his nickname, which is a variation of his intials.
@soulanstreets222
@soulanstreets222 3 ай бұрын
@@tupelohoney622 2 year olds can most definitely understand that people have names and sometimes people have the same name. A 2 year old will respond to a new nickname too. They're a lot smarter than you think. Getting the child involved is a good way to go but of course be age appropriate..if he says he wants to be Spiderman or Batman...Peter or Bruce makes more sense.
@courtneysokal6590
@courtneysokal6590 3 ай бұрын
@@soulanstreets222My two year old would name himself Birdie or Book if I let him
@anndeecosita3586
@anndeecosita3586 3 ай бұрын
My opinion is wait until the child tells you they want a name change before making new name suggestions. If the adoptive parent expresses dislike for the child’s name they might misinterpret that or only be doing it to please you.
@luannkelly5071
@luannkelly5071 Жыл бұрын
Leave town after you adopt. Keep this boy away from the disfunction!
@caligirl8904
@caligirl8904 3 ай бұрын
Wow 22 and 24 and already so mature and responsible! At least the uncle cares enough to take the nephew; he's not selfish. Good for him! Good luck, uncle!
@Whimsey6
@Whimsey6 3 ай бұрын
I don't always agree with Dr. Delony, but he nailed this one when he told the caller to move away. They need the physical & emotional space to gel as a family unit without extended family interference.
@stephengallagher2209
@stephengallagher2209 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. He got this one right.
@kjwhitty8820
@kjwhitty8820 2 ай бұрын
I usually don't agree with Dr. Delony, and I don't agree here either. If the name leaves a bad taste in your mouth, change it. The birth father shouldn't get a say in this matter. Hell, the only people who should have a say are the parents. The birth father has ceded that right.
@Moonflowers11
@Moonflowers11 2 ай бұрын
@@kjwhitty8820 I would say keep it quite no need to argue with either brother. Then do what's right for the child, wife and caller.
@kjwhitty8820
@kjwhitty8820 2 ай бұрын
@@Moonflowers11 I agree.
@michelleramirez4985
@michelleramirez4985 Жыл бұрын
My husband and I adopted my husbands nephew (his sisters bio son) when he was 2 as well. He was also named after his bio dad. We talked about changing his name bc I didn’t think his bio dad deserved to have him named after him when he wasn’t contributing anything and also to be honest because it is not a name I would have picked out but ultimately decided not to. We gave him a middle name and kept his first. We call him by his first name because that is the name that he is used to and didn’t want to take anything else away from him. He had lost enough. We will leave it up to him when he is older if he wants to go by his first or middle or if he wants to change his name once he is an adult
@Aaron-kj8dv
@Aaron-kj8dv Жыл бұрын
Did bio dad come in and try establishing himself as the real father without actually being a real father? I agree with John that the brother will do that here (if he isn't in prison)
@devnerdgirl4638
@devnerdgirl4638 3 ай бұрын
My name was changed when I was adopted. I was 6. I don’t remember how I felt about it.
@deez2569
@deez2569 3 ай бұрын
You are totally qualified to comment, so many people are talking about it as though they know what it's like 😂
@jmal529
@jmal529 3 ай бұрын
​@deez2569 Agreed. Frankly, everyone's arguments are "don't take the last part of this little boys identity", he's 2, he'll never even remember having another name. I understand where they're coming from and considering they're taking on alot, I feel like if choosing his name would make them feel more like a family, then they should go for it. I'm sure this little boy would much rather have the love of a real family, than the name of a crappy deadbeat.
@anndeecosita3586
@anndeecosita3586 3 ай бұрын
@@deez2569I didn’t experience this first hand but I know what professionals who have worked hundreds of child welfare cases have said. They say it is usually detrimental if the child is at an age to where they answer to that name. A name you don’t use or a last name may not be because little kids don’t typically use their last names as much. Imagine his little friends in preschool asking him why his name changed and his little brain trying to understand it. Poor kid.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
@@jmal529 Yes. No one wants to identify with a deadbeat! My son still suffers. Same name.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
@@anndeecosita3586 He is 2 years old. No one will ask that question. lol
@magdalenapichler4182
@magdalenapichler4182 3 ай бұрын
It's as cringe as it sounds, my foster brother was named after his old father Adolf who was born in 1938. The child psychologist recommended not to change his name because he was so traumatized. Reliefing for everybody, including his birth mum was, when he actively gave himself a new name due to bullying when he was 14 years old. Never saw dad being faster with paperwork, everybody was so supportive in the process.
@joceyrocks8840
@joceyrocks8840 Жыл бұрын
He is so mature to be 22. AMAZING!
@Mariah-sy9dl
@Mariah-sy9dl Жыл бұрын
I understand why the uncle wants to change the name. I actually know this exact situation. I know someone who was named after their dad who was not around due to drugs and in/out jail. In this situation, the child grew up knowing his dad was bad and resented being called after him, especially because maternal grandmother spoke so bad about the dad in front of the child. My advice: please don't talk bad about your brother in front of your nephew. If the child asks where dad is, explain that dad is sick and has an addiction and cannot take care of him. Never talk bad about your brother. I know it's really hard to, but let the child create his own picture. Maybe when he's a teenager, if you want to revisit the name change and have your nephew give his vote on how he feels about it.
@davidmolina7543
@davidmolina7543 2 ай бұрын
Excellent advice.
@katemiller7874
@katemiller7874 3 ай бұрын
Brother is a dirtball but dad is too. You sir are an angel sent from heaven. This child is lucky to have you. There are people on this earth that clean up other peoples messes. You are one of them. So am I. I totally understand you. I respect you immensely. I hope for you I really do. ❤️
@willieverusethis
@willieverusethis 3 ай бұрын
This happened to my best friend. She took in her sister's child. Within a few years the child refused to be called by the first name her birth mother gave her, and asked to be adopted. When she turned 18, she legally changed her name. I wouldn't change his name, but I would start calling him by a nickname. This is a very stressful process, and my heart goes out to the two of you.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
The boy is 2 years old. lol. He won't remember hardly anything. Change his name now, at 2. Just start calling him, by his new name. He won't have to identify by his abuser. The young uncle is correct.
@Wyo2Wis
@Wyo2Wis Жыл бұрын
Time to move far far away from Utah.
@Moonflowers11
@Moonflowers11 2 ай бұрын
I wish I could like this 100 more times.
@myyt3824
@myyt3824 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t about his sperm donor. This is about the child. That child is 2 and absolutely knows his name. Please do not take this baby’s name from him. He is about to experience an overwhelming amount of changes for his little self, the name would be detrimental to him processing everything that’s about to happen. Bless this man for taking this child into a loving environment. That’s a really selfless act to benefit the little boy who didn’t ask to be brought into this situation. Leave his name as is.
@lorannamoody7011
@lorannamoody7011 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I still remember my first day at Miss Ludlow’s Little School. I was 2 in the 3 yr old class. I zoned out my first day and didn’t answer roll call. A giant came over,put her fingers under my chin. Are you Loranna? Of course I knew my name. I just didn’t know the system. I came in a couple of weeks after things started.
@Donnie-hf5du
@Donnie-hf5du 2 ай бұрын
So TRUE.
@stephengallagher2209
@stephengallagher2209 2 ай бұрын
Disagree. Change his name, and he will learn... don't raise him Junkie Jr..
@kingtrode
@kingtrode 2 ай бұрын
I disagree, this kid needs a new beginning and a new name.
@kjwhitty8820
@kjwhitty8820 2 ай бұрын
I disagree. If the child's name leaves a bad taste in your mouth because you associate it with the father that failed this child, by all means change his name. I firmly believe this child, when older, will appreciate his name being changed from a name of a man that wasn't an appropriate father. This is about your family now.
@MaggieRoara
@MaggieRoara 3 ай бұрын
As someone who was this little boy, change that name! And cut all ties. I feel sometimes like I only became the person i was supposed to be after removed my fathers name. If my grandparents had changed it at the start, I would only have been spared a lifetime of questioning myself if I was like this person.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
Maggiel. Yes. Thank you. No need to carry the losers name. My son still suffers. Same name. I didn't know.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
He is not disrespecting any one. That man, does not want to be a dad to his son. So, this man is stepping up. He is doing the right thing. We don't need his name.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 2 ай бұрын
Of course he is disrespecting the guy. The fact that he isn't worthy of respect doesn't change the fact it is disrespectful. It just means it being disrespectful isn't a reason not to do it.
@anabelsanchez4605
@anabelsanchez4605 Жыл бұрын
If it were me I would give the child a nickname and let the child decide when he’s older.
@Lady_de_Lis
@Lady_de_Lis Жыл бұрын
I'd just call him by his middle name. If he doesn't have one, give him one. Don't change his first name.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
Why? He will be their child now.
@briskettacos
@briskettacos 3 ай бұрын
​@@karyndewit193he is a child with an identity, not a posession.
@alycewich4472
@alycewich4472 3 ай бұрын
Different scenario BOTH my mom and dad were called by their middle name and when signing legal documents it was just the letter of their first name, their complete middle name and then their last name. Very interesting stories: My maternal grandmother liked 2 names but liked the combination of the first name and the middle name better than the middle name and then the first name. So she chose the first name/middle name and called her by her middle name. My father was called Sonny because he was my paternal grandmother's son. Then once he started kindergarten, there were 5 boys in his class whose first names were the same. So by the time the teacher got to him, she had run out of any variations of his first name. So she told him that he would be called by his middle name. (Now before anyone gets upset, both of my parents were born in 1928, a LONG time ago when things were very different in schools.) Since Dad had never been called anything other than Sunny it was fine with him. So for the rest of his school life he was called by his middle name. His parents didn't start calling him by his middle name until after he returned from navy boot camp.
@alycewich4472
@alycewich4472 3 ай бұрын
That was my thinking, or perhaps calling him by a nickname. As a child in the 50's all of my siblings and I had a nickname that we answered to. If we were called by our given name AND our last name we knew we were in serious trouble. My 2 sons also had nicknames until they entered grade school as the kids liked to pick on children who were different. I still have a nickname, a different one that the one I had as a child, but a nickname given to me by my church family with whom I have a very special bond.
@ellensmith4347
@ellensmith4347 3 ай бұрын
I use middle name ,have since I was little...I was named after an aunt that didn't like me and I ended up not liking her either....works great when it's an official call It's under my first name ,if it's friends then I'm called by my middle.
@Drumbeat52
@Drumbeat52 Жыл бұрын
22, married 5 months, adopting a child and having a major beef with your brother is a long road to travel. Good luck sorting that out. As long as your intentions are true and lasting then you might pull this off. Good Luck!
@Jaisee14
@Jaisee14 Жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? Where is the mother to this child in all of this mess?
@tfernandez6806
@tfernandez6806 Жыл бұрын
Thsts what I was waiting for…are they ready for the bio mom’s family to show up too? This very young couple needs support, their lives are going to dram a filled
@OopThereItIs77777
@OopThereItIs77777 3 ай бұрын
This sounds like a case where mom is gone
@chay516
@chay516 3 ай бұрын
Right? What happened to women stepping up for their kids. Ugh this world! I don’t agree with name change. And you never know! His dad may change.. he may find Jesus and find his TRUE identity is in him. Addicts get sober EVERYDAY!
@anndeecosita3586
@anndeecosita3586 3 ай бұрын
@@chay516I didn’t hear the caller say where the mother was but the child was living with dad before CPS became involved and he only mentioned dad signing over his rights. Mom might be dead.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
@@chay516 You love fantasy, huh? Change name of 2 year old. No one needs to be saddled with a loser's name.
@marilynmccormick1658
@marilynmccormick1658 3 ай бұрын
The adoptive parents might consider reversing the childs first & middle name, so his names remain the same but the new adoptive parents, teachers, family would be calling the child by his middle name. It might be a softer way & later when the child grows up, more understood by him.
@kristinebailey6554
@kristinebailey6554 Ай бұрын
I raised 5 kids and I agree. Use the middle name.
@maam-yj8ph
@maam-yj8ph Жыл бұрын
Maybe a good compromise would be to get a middle name/ nickname for daily use? Then when the child is old enough to have an opinion then worry about actual legal name changing. My grandma and mom always went by their middle names and never liked or used their first names.
@IGoPanama
@IGoPanama Жыл бұрын
Absolutely this!
@eurekahope5310
@eurekahope5310 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! He can go by a nickname or middle name until he is old enough to legally decide.
@4thejoyofit233
@4thejoyofit233 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@jangrosemartindale8740
@jangrosemartindale8740 3 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. Wonder Hubbie’s name is Martin Lee Martindale- he doesn’t use his first name (Uncle’s name) AT ALL.
@CJ-ft9yo
@CJ-ft9yo 3 ай бұрын
Yes nickname is good
@Hamyhamster24
@Hamyhamster24 Жыл бұрын
oh gosh him and his wife are only 22&24...i wish them all the best of luck 😭
@maryt7468
@maryt7468 Жыл бұрын
If the caller sees this, please don’t change his name. Give him a nickname if it makes you feel closer to him (a special name between the both of you) but adoption as a whole process is traumatic enough. He can do it himself when he’s older if he wants.
@arlenefisher1164
@arlenefisher1164 Жыл бұрын
Or call him by his middle name.
@richthepup
@richthepup Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. If the child comes and say hey don’t call me by the same name as my bio father, I’m right there with them but it’s their call. I won’t potentially steal their identity
@jangrosemartindale8740
@jangrosemartindale8740 3 ай бұрын
Or start of by calling him “Buddy”, “Your my little Buddy, & I love you,” then, using “Buddy” is NOT a huge mind warp. Instead, it is a term of ENDEARMENT.
@alycewich4472
@alycewich4472 3 ай бұрын
@@jangrosemartindale8740 YES! A nickname!
@ValerieJungck
@ValerieJungck 3 ай бұрын
I know a very loving, experienced foster mom who adopted several of her foster children and gave them all new names. She says those names with so much love and affection. For the children it was a new start.
@indigogirl5172
@indigogirl5172 Жыл бұрын
I feel for this guy, think he may have some codependency issues. To take on a child at 22 is a beautiful thing and it is hard too. I think he has resentment towards his brother for creating this situation and leaving others to clean up the mess he made. I have irresponsible siblings like this. They are so frustrating. I moved to another state to get away from them. They just suck you dry because they know you care enough to not let them be destroyed by their poor decision making. They know someone will always bail them out. Sad.
@rebeccaoprea9917
@rebeccaoprea9917 Жыл бұрын
Right ? It’s called the family bailout system . Why change yourself when someone can clean up your mess ?
@22lyric
@22lyric 3 ай бұрын
In THIS case the brother is saving his NEPHEW!
@indigogirl5172
@indigogirl5172 3 ай бұрын
@@22lyric yeah, but at the expense of his life and dreams deferred. I hope it works out for him.
@WholisticWomen-wl2sy
@WholisticWomen-wl2sy 2 ай бұрын
Codependency? It's called being a decent human being. I wouldn't even leave a bird or reptile with an abusive owner...
@kelseyeastridge6831
@kelseyeastridge6831 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was adopted and did adopt through the foster system a relative placement, we did change the name.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
I adopted two from the foster care system and I charged both of their names.
@Jane5720
@Jane5720 Жыл бұрын
These are a lot of good reasons why you should never name child after their father, that’s what I think
@carlabrodhagen2884
@carlabrodhagen2884 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has adopted and changed our kids names (thier choice and they picked they were 5 and 7) I can totally understand the fresh start that this caller is talking about. It truly helped our boys. When adopted (in Canada 🇨🇦) we become thier bio parent one thier birth certificate. As parents we get to name our babes. That said, we didnt adopt through family which makes it a bit less stressful. My heart ❤️ goes out to this family!
@sobeliever1638
@sobeliever1638 Жыл бұрын
That is different. Your kids were old enough and choose that for themselves.
@loveubye2288
@loveubye2288 Жыл бұрын
Its wasn't their choice when they are under your influence and having that pressure to fulfill the role of being your biological child in order to not be abandoned again.
@carlabrodhagen2884
@carlabrodhagen2884 Жыл бұрын
@@loveubye2288 actually it was thier choice. In our case the 2 children asked us if they could change thier first names. We said they could if they wanted and they picked! We will change our adopted kids names if we adopt babies. We currently have a placement looking like it's going to adoption. We will not be changing this childs name. I feel like it's child and situation specific.
@saradeaton687
@saradeaton687 Жыл бұрын
We went through a similar situation, minus the family connections. We changed our son's name by one letter. I know it was for us, but I think it helped him feel more connected to our whole family later on.
@HeatherViking1740
@HeatherViking1740 3 ай бұрын
I babysat for a big family. Their two youngest were adopted at around two. They changed their names. The children did very well, and would correct me if I used their old names. I knew them when they were fostering before they were adopted. Personally, I think you could keep his first name, but start calling him by his middle name. Then when family call him by his original name, it’s ok!
@elizabetha8565
@elizabetha8565 Жыл бұрын
Man I feel bad for this guy the youngest and the only one willing and able to help this kid. We don't know all the abuse that has already happened to this kid so I hope he does what he sees fit he is the Dad now.
@HaleyStark.
@HaleyStark. Жыл бұрын
What kid wants to be named after the father who abandoned him? I grew up in foster care, and I changed my name as soon as I could. I wish it had been changed when I was a kid.
@kensmith2796
@kensmith2796 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who was named after his father. His father left when he was very young. His mother and stepfather called him a shortened version of his first name because the stepfather didn't like being reminded of the ex. My friend had issues his entire life due to not being called his "real" name. I guess everyone is different, but it caused major issues for him.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
Were you ever adopted out of foster care? I adopted two from the foster care system and changed both of their names.
@KS-cl8br
@KS-cl8br Жыл бұрын
As someone who was in this spot at 3. I wish my mother had changed my name. My name is associated with the old. You don't need to honor your brother. He gave up that right. Choose a new first name for him. you can make it fun. Use magnetic on fridge with his new name. Ssy you have s new name too. You aren't Uncle anymore you are Dad.
@someone3187
@someone3187 3 ай бұрын
Why not a middle name and give him the choice what he wants to be called?
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
Yes, exactly.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
@@someone3187why be tied to the past?
@djborum9014
@djborum9014 Жыл бұрын
Keep the name but don’t allow your brother to try to “quarter back” as a side parent. He gets no input, visitation , or say in any decisions for him. My niece was raised by her aunt and they allowed her dysfunctional mom to be part of the parenting process and it messed up my niece well into adulthood.
@user-lu9hq6jv4v
@user-lu9hq6jv4v 3 ай бұрын
Give the baby a nickname. This young man is fantastic! ❤
@crystalann2147
@crystalann2147 Жыл бұрын
I have known people who were adopted and wish their name was changed or have done it themselves. They see who their parent is and don't want to be associated with it. They also feel more abandoned. I think the caller should change their child's name they are all starting a new beginning.
@ellekirk7369
@ellekirk7369 Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 Жыл бұрын
It’s never too late to start another new beginning.
@9liveslisa
@9liveslisa Жыл бұрын
Boy, he's walking into a hornet's nest. Yeah, he'll need to set up boundaries and be strong enough to maintain them. I'd keep his name. The poor kid will be dealing with enough change. His new beginning will be the road his uncle is offering him.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
The child is 2 years old and does not need his loser, bio dad's name. He will identify with that pain, his whole life. He needs a new name. He will still have same LAST NAME.
@ianforsythe3878
@ianforsythe3878 Жыл бұрын
As someone who changed their name not too long after entering adulthood, I can understand how he feels. A lot of people told me not to, that I was obligated to honor my birth name, that it was disrespectful to my parents, my destiny, etc. Frankly, I find that all to be a bunch of garbage. I changed my name anyway, because this is my life, my identity, and, in this situation, nobody else matters, nobody else gets a vote. Period. However, it was MY decision to abandon my birth name, my trauma associated with that name, my past, my upbringing. I don’t believe names are sacred, but identity is about one’s individual perception of/relationship with themselves, and THAT’S why names are important. Once the child is old enough to understand the situation in its entirety, they should be the one to make the final vote. If the new dad cannot stand that name, it might be helpful to find a nickname/middle name in the mean time to call him. I’m no professional, but I have mixed feelings about this without the consent of the child.
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 Жыл бұрын
Took me 50 years to appreciate my given name. Even my siblings offered to pay the legal expenses as soon as I was old enough, but due to so many legal issues within the family at the time, it got placed on the back burner. I still dislike the name, just as much as I ever have, I’ve come to realize that it has its benefits.
@JuliaShalomJordan
@JuliaShalomJordan Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of this.
@samanthasmiles9112
@samanthasmiles9112 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. I also changed my name as an adult. I was named after my abusive father (female name equivalent). I HATED the name as a child, and I hate the name now. A child's name is 100% wrapped in their identity. You said it yourself. I understand that changing a child's name should be a BIG deal. This is the only situation I can understand doing something like this. I changed my name when I got married. They told me I could change my name to whatever I wanted, and I said.... FINALLY. I erased that crap. It wasn't a magical experience for me. It just felt overdue. I think the parents should pick a few names and get the child involved. Tell him to pick a name that makes him feel GOOD and POWERFUL. If the child really doesn't want to, then leave him alone. But I think you and I both know the kid will most likely want to change his name. Who the heck wants the honor of being named after their abusive parent? I think no one.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes you just make the decision for the child. Changing this child’s age is the best thing.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
@@samanthasmiles9112well, the little boy is two, but he’s going to be their son now so they should name him.
@nikkizetlian4421
@nikkizetlian4421 Жыл бұрын
Changing his name at this point is not a good idea. He already knows his name. He will be very confused if the name is changed.
@kellharris2491
@kellharris2491 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I would want the name of the man who abandoned me. But I don't know how the 2 year old will be affected. I just don't know. This is tricky for me.
@margaretwalsh8361
@margaretwalsh8361 3 ай бұрын
What about initials, , like RJ for Robert James for example? Keep the brother’s name, with a modification
@jessicarose2548
@jessicarose2548 Жыл бұрын
I kind of get where the caller is coming from...I was relentlessly bullied by a girl named Abby growing up, and I would never name one of my kids Abby after that experience! Have I forgiven her? Yes. But I don't want to be reminded of my painful past every time I hear my daughter's name.
@texan903
@texan903 Жыл бұрын
How about Abigail as a name?
@jessicarose2548
@jessicarose2548 Жыл бұрын
@@texan903 Abigail is pretty, but I still wouldn't use it LOL 😅
@butwhyshouldi
@butwhyshouldi Жыл бұрын
My son is named after his dad. His dad started a life sentence when he was 3 yrs old. I had to make a decision how to approach this topic as he aged. I was brief, honest and upfront from the very beginning about where his dad was. I kept it age appropriate as best as i could. The only thing I wasn't super honest about was how I truly felt towards his dad. I always made it a very politically correct statement. As he got older I would go into more mature details but always kept my bias out of it. He is 15 years old now. He's never had much curiosity about the person he barely knows. I try not to push it because i don't want to put it in his head that he should be curious. But I'm open to talk about it when he's ready. We've always called him by his middle name, not for the same reason as this caller, merely to avoid confusion of people. He goes by his first name at school though, and that's completely okay. I hope I handled this situation well, he seems fine. But i understand for us it was wayy easier than some. For one, obviously he still has his mom and wasn't adopted or abused. And two, i know if his father's side was more involved it would bring a lot more emotions out of everyone. I really feel for people who have to stay involved with the other side. I just couldn't imagine. Distance and staying positive were the two things that seemed to help us.
@bigbadjohn7053
@bigbadjohn7053 2 ай бұрын
Hope everything works out for this family. I can say from personal experience to always be honest about everything with your son. Its OK to say "you are too young, ask me when you are older" but never let him feel like your hiding something. If he knows he can rely on you for the truth (as best as you know it), he'll always know he can trust you. Especially when he has rough moments, and he will.
@melanieb2132
@melanieb2132 Жыл бұрын
Most of the people I know have changed names when they adopted. I think it's pretty common.
@ellekirk7369
@ellekirk7369 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@ga6589
@ga6589 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the other commenters that it's not a good idea to change his name. I'm an adoptive mom and adoption is traumatic for a child. He should be able to keep such an important part of his identity. When he's older, leave it up to him whether or not to change it.
@ellekirk7369
@ellekirk7369 Жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree. Stop the adoption drama. It is not always traumatic. (left a longer comment earlier)
@ga6589
@ga6589 Жыл бұрын
@@ellekirk7369 No drama. Just common sense reality and visits with many adoptees, including my own. However, I understand if you changed your child's name and this touched a nerve with you. I suggest you read "The Primal Wound", by Nancy Verrier.
@andrewcaton6793
@andrewcaton6793 Жыл бұрын
Definition of a real man right here! What a stud!!!
@KidCity1985
@KidCity1985 Жыл бұрын
It can be done without trama by using two names for a while then dropping his old name.
@redzin8818
@redzin8818 Жыл бұрын
It's just a name...let him change it. Put a fresh and wonderful new name on him and watch him grow into it...I do agree that the uncle who is adopting needs some healing about his brothers name...
@jennifertrogdon6926
@jennifertrogdon6926 3 ай бұрын
My husband and I got custody of his youngest sister 3 days before her eighth birthday and she still lives with us today. And she's almost thirty one
@gayhendrie84
@gayhendrie84 Жыл бұрын
Where is the mother in all of this?
@maryshannon4444
@maryshannon4444 3 ай бұрын
Yes, go ahead and change the name. When you adopt the child can be given a new name. Your brother does not deserve anything. Well done you. Explain to him from day 1 that it was not his fault at all. Stay clear of family for a while to allow the child to settle. You are the one who is stepping up, NO ONE else gets a vote. Well done to you both and love your little boy.
@connie0613
@connie0613 Жыл бұрын
Dr John spitting truth at the end 🤯🤯🤯
@sustainabilitytheory5154
@sustainabilitytheory5154 Жыл бұрын
John has a good point about the name, it's the caller who has a problem with the name, not the kid. That said, it's his right to change it if he wants and it won't effect the baby negatively, and may help his new parents cope with this situation.
@kensmith2796
@kensmith2796 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's definitely a him problem and not a problem for the kid. My hats off to this guy for taking in his nephew. But I had a friend who was raised by his mother and his stepfather and they called him a shortened version of his first name. They did this because he was named after his bio dad and stepfather didn't like the reminder of his wife's ex. My friend had issues his entire life about the way his "name change" was handled. He died in his 70s and woudl still get visibly angry if someone called him that old name.
@kristinjayne6720
@kristinjayne6720 3 ай бұрын
The child is two. He knows his name. How do you know how changing it will or won’t affect him?
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
Definitely. It’s the right decision to change his name.
@karyndewit193
@karyndewit193 3 ай бұрын
@@kristinjayne6720barely. He won’t remember his name. I changed both of my kids’ names some and it was a great decision for them.
@lisacrews3060
@lisacrews3060 2 ай бұрын
@@kristinjayne6720 Because it's normal in the adoptive community to change names even at 2 and older and the kids are fine.
@gwenandricky
@gwenandricky Жыл бұрын
On point, Dr. John!
@jasminebaby3375
@jasminebaby3375 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s ok to change the name people do it all the time. However since it’s family. He can give his son a new middle name and call him by the middle name. Good luck, thank you and big congratulations to you.
@jvmlucky13
@jvmlucky13 3 ай бұрын
I understand the new beginning. Start over with a loving nickname ❤
@catherinenelson4162
@catherinenelson4162 Жыл бұрын
It's not about the older brother. It's about the child. Please put the old name as a middle name. But as his age, to change his name right off is taking the child's identity away. There are deep results from this. For a small child, identity is one of their only constants. Loss of identity can leave the child lost. Please discuss this one on one with a psychologist for information beyond what you can receive from Dr. John. Dr. John is good, no doubt about it. I believe you and your wife will need even more knowledge and support. My oldest brothers' name was completely changed. He ended up very confused and thought the old version of him wasn't wanted.
@tcggggg
@tcggggg Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine a child brain trying to make sense of why they are being called a new name all of a sudden. Sad..
@lisacrews3060
@lisacrews3060 2 ай бұрын
@@tcggggg It happens all the time with adopted kids even at 2 and older. The kids do just fine with it.
@suzannemuliolis6066
@suzannemuliolis6066 2 ай бұрын
I don't agree. Each individual responds differently. My mom was horrible and I never questioned if I would be half " bad ". I just chose not to be like her. I was still an individual. I didn't dwell much on my DNA.
@Sherbert89
@Sherbert89 2 ай бұрын
Speaking from the POV of that 2 year old kid - changing hos name, he will ALWAYS remember. Experts may say he will forget, but somewhere in his mind, he will always remember. He will always remember that name, he will always remember what happened before he came to live with them, even if he is not able to articulate it. My name was changed at 2.5 years old. It was only ONE letter different, but it was said completely different.
@michelehaan3738
@michelehaan3738 Жыл бұрын
Not a relative but we adopted a child from abuse and neglect who was named after his bio dad that abandoned him early in life. He was 3 when we finalized his adoption…he picked his own name…it was a character from Veggie Tales…now there’s an interesting adoption story…he never complained about it though…
@alycewich4472
@alycewich4472 3 ай бұрын
LOVE IT!
@bostonb1636
@bostonb1636 2 ай бұрын
God bless you for what you're doing. God will walk with you the whole way. What an unselfish act of love ❤️🙏
@Snoops510
@Snoops510 3 ай бұрын
That young 22 year old MAN, in my opinion, deserves to do whatever he wants. He called the baby his "son", and he is angry that his selfish brother has hurt his "son". How many parents would not be angry with anyone...relative or not...who hurt his son? It's just a name...he shouldn't be constantly reminded of the man who hurt his son. Though, I don't think that he realizes that the name, whatever it is, will become his SON's name...whether it's the same name as his brother or not.
@luisarodriguez8197
@luisarodriguez8197 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I agree.
@nursekate
@nursekate 3 ай бұрын
In the UK you are actively discouraged from changing an adopted childs name. All it does is create a further disconnect between the child and his biological parents. Not only that, but the child is going to be thinking why wasnt I good enough for my parents to keep me. To then change the childs name is another blow of why wasnt my name good enough? The child is two, he knows his name. I think this may be due to the adoptive parents not liking the childs name to begin with. If he chooses to change his name when he is older, that is his choice, not yours. All of that aside, thank you for taking in this baby and caring for him.
@isoldam
@isoldam 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes a disconnect between a child and his biological parents is the best thing for the child.
@chrisberry4945
@chrisberry4945 2 ай бұрын
There already IS a disconnect between the child and bio parents. They did it.
@lisacrews3060
@lisacrews3060 2 ай бұрын
Here in the US it's the norm in the adoptive community, even with preschoolers and the vast majority of kids do just fine with it.
@deb9806
@deb9806 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't care about anyone's opinion but I"m calling you....
@maddynavarro77
@maddynavarro77 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you Dr. John Well said. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@shortsauce
@shortsauce 3 ай бұрын
I’m a mom of two boys, 10 and 8 and married for 13 years and am almost 40. My suggestion is to call him by his middle name or give him a nickname but don’t legally change his name. Good luck! Praying for you.
@TheDawieb
@TheDawieb 3 ай бұрын
I agree to changing his name ...dont think its hate ..it giving this child a new start ..and a new walk in life
@IFBBProYeo
@IFBBProYeo 3 ай бұрын
I think changing the name makes perfect sense. It's not the child's job to rewrite the wrongs of the man with his same name
@pattyrodriguez2
@pattyrodriguez2 3 ай бұрын
I agree!! Also, at 2 years of age, even though the little boy knows his current name, changing it at this point wouldn't be a big issue with regards to his identity. I've studied language development and teach languages to children and adults. There is a 100% fluency rate up to age 4, then it decreases over time the older the child gets (there are exceptions, of course). People saying it's traumatic, it can't be more traumatic than the bio family. What this child needs is a stable point of reference (AKA stable parent figure(s)). It really is no big deal and it is in the child's best interest, IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT SHOULD COUNT!!!
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
@@pattyrodriguez2 Yes.
@Latnman101
@Latnman101 3 ай бұрын
That man had me crying. It is wise to change the name or at least keep it as a middle name.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
All he has to do is start calling him by a different name. I never legally, changed my birth first name and call myself something else. I checked into it. As long as you don't do it for a criminal reason, it is ok to do.
@michelledemers9312
@michelledemers9312 3 ай бұрын
The child has the opportunity to heal and create a positive association with his name. It's his name. It's his identity.
@OopThereItIs77777
@OopThereItIs77777 3 ай бұрын
It’s his dad’s name who threw him away like trash
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
He is 2 years old. he has no clue about any identity. lol He needs new name, to love.
@littleme3597
@littleme3597 2 ай бұрын
@@OopThereItIs77777 Yes, People don't get that. Amazing. Who wants to identify with a loser?
@KS-md3uj
@KS-md3uj Жыл бұрын
Call him by his middle name or give him a nickname....but changing the name legally is a bit much...and probably confusing for the child. It also tells the child that his father is 'bad', which is not even giving him a chance.....and will make the child feel like there is something wrong with him since he comes from a "bad" father.
@flossymelton7658
@flossymelton7658 2 ай бұрын
Dr. D. You are wrong here. Let this new family start over, even with a new name.
@JeriLynnKarr
@JeriLynnKarr 2 ай бұрын
Change that baby’s name, leave UTAH. You both ARE his parents, your little family deserves a new beginning.
@eurekahope5310
@eurekahope5310 Жыл бұрын
Name or not, the father's DNA is in the child. Taking away the name completely seems to be tearing a bit of his identity. Call him by his middle name or a nickname until he can decide if he wants to legally change his name. Otherwise, great on this young couple for stepping up!!!
@teresaalbin-davis4529
@teresaalbin-davis4529 3 ай бұрын
I adopted a daughter from China, used her Chinese name as her middle name and let her older sister choose from 3 names for her new sister's first name. She was 17 months old, it was not difficult for anyone
@Mickey-jn7hy
@Mickey-jn7hy 3 ай бұрын
Regarding the name, I feel like this is about this man and not the child. He says it bothers him to use his brother's name but it isn't and shouldn't be about him, it should be about the child. The child has a name and I honestly don't think it is anybody's right to take it from him, especially since the child doesn't seem to have a problem with it. He has lost so much already, let him keep his name.
@elizmal533
@elizmal533 2 ай бұрын
I’d change his name. Give him a name that stems from LOVE not abuse. This kid will thank you for it. He will never have to carry the baggage of what his name represents ( if you leave). Start fresh and champion EVERYTHING this little one does. You two are his Heroes!!!
@LucysMom1
@LucysMom1 3 ай бұрын
I'm hearing this a year later but I will pray for you your, wife and your little boy. I love your heart. ❤️
@sarahdavis4643
@sarahdavis4643 3 ай бұрын
Change the name I was adopted and name was changed when I was 3 it was best decision my adopted parents ever did they are my parents biological has nothing to do with it and if the parents want a different name that’s their choice
@JustOne-qe7jl
@JustOne-qe7jl 3 ай бұрын
This is a partial quote in the play the Crucible from John Proctor : Because it is my name! Because I cannot have another in my life! This quote to me is very very powerful- let the little boy have the name that he was given at birth. All the best to the little boy. God bless your family.
@Jane5720
@Jane5720 Жыл бұрын
What happened to this child’s mother?
@FabulousCucumber-ip9hu
@FabulousCucumber-ip9hu 2 ай бұрын
A name change will confuse the hell out of that little boy. He's been thru enough.
@lifeaccordingtotheo9643
@lifeaccordingtotheo9643 Жыл бұрын
Name changes are really common for adoptees. Older kids often pick their own name. Kids get called all kinds of nicknames from parents too. It hurts the biological parents but not the new family. So it's up to them.
@kensmith2796
@kensmith2796 Жыл бұрын
I dont know, I had a friend whose mother and stepfather called him by a shortened version of his first name. He didn't find out until he was 16 that that wasn't his name and that his stepfather wasn't his bio father. He had major issues his entire life due to that and he would get extremely angry when people called him by that shortened name. He passed away in his 70s and still got angry over being called that nickname.
@nursekate
@nursekate 3 ай бұрын
No they are not. Its actively discouraged for the reasons mentioned in my comments. Adoptive agencies actively discourage against changing an adopted childs name, its another rejection of what is theirs.
@jessy7884
@jessy7884 2 ай бұрын
My husband is adopted in the family and his mom did change his name. He also was 2!
@carinagrennan129
@carinagrennan129 Ай бұрын
Wonder if there is an update on this. What great advice you give.
@sarahhunter1114
@sarahhunter1114 3 ай бұрын
That child WILL develop attachment disorder. I would avoid outings with the bio parents till he's 18. It's too confusing and when he comes back, his behavior will be out of control for a LOOOOOng time afterwards.
@lisacrews3060
@lisacrews3060 2 ай бұрын
A licensed attachment therapist will tell you that's not true.
@joyaustin6581
@joyaustin6581 Жыл бұрын
That’s extra paperwork that would follow the kid when asked about aliases.
@arlenefisher1164
@arlenefisher1164 Жыл бұрын
Many kids start using a different last name for various reasons. It all works out.
@KellyStevensFGG
@KellyStevensFGG 2 ай бұрын
Each episode I listen to, I hear one common thing. John Delony loves people.
@Holdeenio
@Holdeenio 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think there’s a right answer to this one. In my family, a boy was adopted by his aunt and he was given an entirely new name in the process. He always knew who his biological parents were and did meet them throughout life but a new identity was key. In this case, as the new dad is adopting from his brother, it’s fair to assume the boy’s surname may remain the same - in which case (circumstances aside) I can see where the desire for the new identity comes from regarding the forename(s). I wouldn’t even run it by the wider family, it’s not their call. If they had stepped up to adopt it would be, but they didn’t. Prayerfully consider that child’s future and make the best choice you can. It’s only reasonable that you feel disappointed on that boy’s behalf for being let down by his biological parents. When he’s old enough to understand you’ll have to help him navigate that first hand. All the best to you.
@TC-mb2dl
@TC-mb2dl 2 ай бұрын
I think changing his name will actually traumatize the child, and re-traumatize him as he gets older, as an adoptee. Been following some adoptee influencers recently and many advise against changing first names, if at all possible, especially if they have no other ties or links to their bio parents. I'd adopt, but keep his first name. I might give him a nickname instead, but he would always know his legal name.
@juliadotson9132
@juliadotson9132 Жыл бұрын
I agree to leave his name, till he decides to what and if he wants his name different. An idea way to maybe look at it. Without your brother and the mom, there would not be your sweet nephew. Let him have 1 piece of himself which is his name. Honor him for who and what name he has. You and your wife are amazing young folks for stepping up. Find strong support for you both and your sweet son. Maybe work with a psychologist to navigate everyday challenges to make a great family unit and life for all 3 of you. You both are very mature at a young age. Bless you.❤️
@truckingwithtobee
@truckingwithtobee Жыл бұрын
I think it would be a good idea to keep his given name as may be a middle name. Don’t remove it all together
@4thejoyofit233
@4thejoyofit233 Жыл бұрын
Keep his name as a middle name and give him a new first name...and stay close to those mothers as far as location for support. you could even keep his name as is and just call him by his middle name from now on. My father-in-law has always gone by his middle name.
@arlenefisher1164
@arlenefisher1164 Жыл бұрын
Good comment. I agree.
@chocobrowny93
@chocobrowny93 3 ай бұрын
He’s 2, the only association he has with that name is is own identity, he doesn’t know his fathers first name. Taking that from him would cause confusion on top of the abuse and confusion he’s already had to deal with. So changing it would only be to make that adoptive parents feel better. The adoptive parents are already sacrificing for the sake of this child, please sacrifice your own feelings about the name as well and give the child as much normalcy as possible ❤️
@mekdesakewak3566
@mekdesakewak3566 3 ай бұрын
First, I said yes, go head and change the name, but once John explained it makes 100% sense and Wright it's disrespecting the bio father
@annmarie8574
@annmarie8574 2 ай бұрын
It's fine to change his name. This child is yours. We adopted 4 kids at very young ages and we did change their names. No regrets. Keep distance from that brother
@jennifercottrell2588
@jennifercottrell2588 3 ай бұрын
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