nice video peter great stuff stay safe and well all the best al 😄👍👍👍👍

Hi Peter Interesting to hear of your problems with the Bachmann motors. Fortunately, I have not experienced the same problems. I have an extensive collection, serious collector, with over 100 Bachmann diesels, 29 x Class 37s and 34 x Class 66s. Only one 66, gave me problems and was a wheel issue, which is still to be fixed. Keep up the good work as I enjoy your informative videos.

Cheers for sharing that, I've just spent the best part of of 3 days trying to work out what is wrong on my sound fitted class 37, was ready to bounce it off the wall! Will give that a go, flushed the motor out with cleaner but still no good, heard that sending it off to bachmann not great, and they won't look at non warranty claims at the moment , I suppose I should be glad mine lasted that long😁, this hobby ain't cheap we kind of deserve better, thanks

Peter it would be interesting to take one of the damaged motors apart to see the condition of the brushes and commutator. Great video many thanks.

Hi Peter, Nice to see you for a change and this was very informative and I remember you did a similar one a while ago when you did say about the wrapping that they came in have a look at what I said to Allen and do you agree with it. We could discuss this in the stream on Wednesday while watching my trains go round hopefully with out teleporting all around the track as last Wed. I must say you looked very well so just keep safe and play trains. Cheers Robert.

Hello Peter im a new subscriber thanks to Allan at Dragon Junction for pointing me over to your video,i mainly run Hornby Railroad as its mostly in my price range.I would be devastated if those beautiful expensive engines were playing up like that from brand new! Bloody Bachmann need to sort their act out regarding these motors,all that money and they are crap? I wouldnt have it myself.

Hi Peter I have just come across your channel and I am like yourself in being new back into the hobby me after having a 15 year break. its always very frustrating when there are quality issues and I had the same with both Hornby and Heljan and it does seem to be the norm. Anyhow I have subbed and dinged the bell and will catch up on previous videos...…….Keep Well ...Cheers Kev

hi peter thank you for the films and great layout.I bought the majestic train set by hornby when lock down started.the place where it came from said it was new on there website.it cost me 290 .when it got to me looked like it was new straght from hornby its self i also bought loads of extra track and points and metcafe models nad oxford.now my layout is 4 foot wide and 30 foot long in a l shape with double line runing all the qay round it with sidings all over the shop.i use hornby dcc clips things on the points .i have lost SIX motors now 2 hornby 4 bachmann .motors burned out.before they burned out they judered along be grinding to a jumpy stop .now that i have spent 3ooo on my lay out am getting pissed off with it am 50 years old am not stupid i no how to wire up with been good at stuff like this.I think or i no its my elink thats burning all to hell its buzzing load all the time .it buzzed alittle when i first set up but it got way load now so bad you turn it off.i realy like bachmann so i hope its not them just been shit lol.i am buying a gaugemaster dcc control like your nextweek so hoping that will fix it and then i can play with the only class 37 i have left

Great video with plenty of information on different topics , I have one Bachman 66 from DC Kits with there sound and no problem with it . The Elite has the same issues only I am just careful when programming to make surer the CV hasn't changed before pressing resett , Hornby fitted a new rotary switch which did improve it's performance . Would like to change the Elite but the price of some controllers is too expensive and I am more tempted to purchase another loco . ..........Peter

Hi Peter, having your layout and expensive electronics such as controllers in your shed will play havoc with motors and sensetive electronics. That's one possible reason for your misfortune with the problems you've encountered and would seriously consider insulating your shed to the hilt. Have a look at some of Jerry Allen's videos as he had very similar problems but he put it down to the humidity with living in Uganda! I have however had problems with Bachmann motors in my class 150's then I too bought 2 'new' ones from Bachmann only for them not to work also!!! Great video's and I enjoy watching them. Keep 'em coming!

Great video many thanks

Hi Pete, i like your layout. And a voice needs a face. And Handsom one at that. I,ll be watching more of you videos.keep safe.

Hi Peter just an update for you Rapido trains have had motor problems with ESU Decoders they have now changed the motors but the fix for the existing motors is CV51=20 CV52=5 CV54=25 Have a look at their video might or might not solve you motor problems !.....

I have not had much joy sending things 'back to Bachmann'. I had a Switch Pilot which went wrong and I sent it back to Bachmann and charged me the standard service fee, and that in turn went wrong. So I gave up on DCC control of points and went back to switches! I have a Bachmann Dynamis which strangely hasn't gone wrong. However, I acquired a second unit, the Dynamis Ultima and found it made an annoying high-pitched while. I contemplating sending it 'back to Bachmann', but when I communicated with Bachmann service they told me the Dynamis contains no serviceable parts. So basically if it goes wrong, you've had it! The suppression capacitors should not be removed from locos on DCC as this can cause interference on Wi-Fi. You can, however, fit better quality suppression capacitors. Some DCC fitted locos have built-in suppression capacitors. Great layout. Good idea to use the sectional track. Please feature another running session soon. Thanks for uploading.

Hi Robert, I've just got back into model railways due to having to stay indoors, due to ti having to shield from COVID,I found your video very informative re Bachmann motors I think after watching it, I will stick to getting Hornby locomotives

Great video Peter. Love your layout and loco collection. Has anybody any ideas how to make function 2 to latch for the rear lights on the 66 or how to re-program the rear lights to another function key on the Prodigy Express controller. Thank you, Michael

Peter, DDC is expensive. I had an ESoS, cost a lot and it gave up. I now have a GaugeMaster Prodigy 2, and it doe the job and a lifetime guarantee. It is nice. I have a Bachmann 47 but it will not run. Lights work but, I am confused about where to go from them. My faith in Bachmann is a little poor. Yet my 66 works well. I like the video. For a British Company, I am disappointed.

Peter, Appropriate CV settings are essential for smooth running. Mid range speed is ruled by CV6 which should be half the vlue of CV5. Check your loco has been set as such.

Hello Peter have just watched this video after watching Alan's with his 66 problem. I also use Gaugemaster prodigy advance and on the odd occasion have had a bit of erratic running and run away trains. I turn off the system completely that's track and mains. Switch back on and all runs ok, it's like given it a reset have you tried this. I have 33 class 37's and 13 class 66 never have I had to replace a motor. give it a try if it happens again. Next the Hatton 66 the Gaugemaster f2 can be set with a cv change so it stays on which is cv16 but if your not into cv changing make sure first. There must be loads of guys out there with Hatton's 66 using Gaugemaster. You could try asking Hatton's or Gaugemaster even some one on youtube may know the answer or Legomanbifo. I have subbed to you, you could be one of my subs not sure. Hope this helps. Mick

Hi Peter, I have been thinking about the symptoms of poor running by your class 66 motors. What would be interesting would be to remove the motor from the loco and the decoder as well. Run these as a unit being driven by your DCC controller. Vary the motor speed and see if the problem of rough running occurs again. By running outside the loco you have eliminated gearing and pick-up problems. If rough running occurs under these circumstances the problem may well be the interaction between the motor and the DCC controller, is the pulse width from the controller well matched to the motor for example? Perhaps by changing the pulse width the problem may well disappear. I would also be a bit suspicious of the capacitors connected across the brushes of the motor and I don't see why they should cause any less problem than with a pure DC system. Their function is the same ie., to remove the square edges of the motor input current to stop radio interference. The fact that the problem has occurred with so many motors does make me very suspicious that the problem may lie elsewhere. The common factor each time is the source of control. Thanks for your video on the matter; very interesting indeed, Tony

Great Video Pete have you tried getting into the motors to check the brushes etc ?

F2 is momentary due to it being the default Horn channel on DCC Sound Decoders. I function mapped any functions that were on this. When I've sent locomotives to Bachmann to be fixed, they just swap any coaches/locos for one that works, ie. when I sent my class 350 back they just swapped a coach with one they already had When I sent a loco to Hornby it came back with wheels so dirty they were fully black, and the motor gearing clogged up with track pins from their test layout Bachmann do have dodgy batches of locos- there was a dodgy batch of 350s where the lights blew after a bit My 350 is jerky at slow speed although that may just be normal... About half of my trains run the worst a mid-speed... this was only on DCC not DC

Hi Peter you do not need suppressors on Dcc there in the chips and you are right it can make the locos run all over the show. yep all so sent a class 37 Sound back to Backmann and your right the motor had pack up only 4 moth old. now have a class 66 that stop that sound . but put on the layout today runs fin. strange. but i am thinking of getting spear motors. for it . so what are backmann charging for a new motor if you do not mind me asking. Keep up the good work. been watching Allan as well. been in to DCC for some years now never go back to DC. have a look at my Channel on here. if you want to. Stanbridge Ford Spensley Junction 00 Garden Railway. Regards Ron Happy Modeling.

You know Peter, dont laugh BUT there is something to be said about the Hornby 66's never known a single problem with the motors with or without dcc operation! Yes i know they dont have the same refinement of a Bachmann or dare i say a Hattons, mind you thats another story altogether, i won't be having one until the many issues are well and truly ironed out, ive heard some of many horror stories about the first and second batch, bet bachmann are laughing! I recently bought the new PD Ports liveried Hornby 66 and have to say the printing is excellent, otherwise its Bachmann for now! A great little running sassion with your ROG 37884, even though that wasent without its problems as well! 5motor changes oh dear oh dear, bad luck or what ? Anyway stay well and safe, cheers Nick.

Peter . Have you tried the motors , right through the speed range , on DC , because it seems that there might be an incompatibility problem with the decoders ? Regards . Paddy Owen.

Not having seen the loco's running with the original issues you mentioned, but you said they had jerky motors. Are you sure it's the motors and not something associated with the gear trains in the bogies. I've had similar with my US outline stuff I bought second hand, and it turned out to be caused by dry gears or something hanging into the gearing. You haven't accidentaly trapped any wires while working on the locos have you. Just thinking out loud. Regards Dave.

Nice train ! LG Gert

Hi Peter what size is your layout I have just purchased an 8 x 4 shed for my layout you seem to have a lot of space for your layout

Hi Peter, Excellent video. We look similar. As my EX-wife used to say “a perfect face for radio”! You keep buying the same model after the first one goes wrong... you really need to stop doing that. I am disappointed with Bachmann’s and Hornby’s responses to your problems. They’re really not taking you seriously, and they should because (a) you’re a customer, and (b) your excellent KZfaq channel is telling many hundreds more people that Hornby & Bachmann will give you very poor support. They will lose money because of their poor support. We just need to act with our wallets and go elsewhere. (Peter, hint, you need to act with your wallet and go elsewhere!). Keep up the good work. I enjoy watching your channel very much. Regards, Jim

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So I’ve 10 Bachmann 66’s only 3 run well the rest are garbage! I don’t know how bothered you are but the sound in your 37906 won’t be correct! It was fitted with a mirlees engine completely different sound! I have the correct one!

Blimey. What a nightmare. I'm surprised you haven't chucked them all in the bin & taken up a new hobby.