I love it when people don't resafe joinly 😀

"It's now up to him to Resafe Joinly." -Jimmy Broadbent

Ah.. well I am the P2 driver on the stupid line :| My son posted to reddit somewhat as a wind-up, little shit knew you reviewed these. Anyway - I really should have driven the corner normally. But after 400+ laps getting back for a shot at P8, and with 20 laps remaining they "bumped" us off - race over shattered. Car fully repaired we decided to take the flag , however when "J Broadbent" appeared in F3 I decided to go offline and get out your way ... well that didn't work for either of us. Definitely played my part in it Jimmy, and sorry again :)

Jimmy obviously at fault for the Daytona crash. He clearly failed to resafe joinly.

4:20 the way he said it so nonchalantly without even realizing is so funny

Jimmer suffered from a phenomenon we call Target fixation. Distracted by the guy infront and watching him quickly turned into a good ol punterino

On the point of being predictable, this is something that even normal drivers have to contend with on public roads. Ever have that person try to be nice and wave you through a turn when it's clearly their right of way? Yeah. That stuff causes accidents when for example the traffic behind the "nice person" thinks they are stopped for no reason and dive into the shoulder to pass. Next thing you know you've been t-boned.

you must ALWAYS resafe joinly!!! Sounds like *SOMEBODY* has a new T-Shirt design to draw-up!

Resafe joinly... a new racing term invented by Jimmers that needs to be added to the dictionary.

4:20 It's now up to him to resafe joinly. -Jimmer, 2023

I'm the guy at 3:00, tried to move to the right to give him space but I noticed him going wide too late as I was still focused on the guy I just overtook, so got caught up in that. Thanks for the feedback though!

DAY IN THE LIFE OF A TRUE SIMRACING GEEZER!

Regarding the brake tapping, another potential cause is that the car ahead is using a Logitech G920/923/29 because those have a very common issue with the potentiometer in the pedal getting a bit dusty/dirty and randomly applying itself. It’s very annoying (it happens to me too) so I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the issue.

Jimmer, as a RL Racer in multi class, what you said about "driving your line" is absolutely right. If the slow car drives the racing line, they are "known". That guy was not on the line and therefore was anomolous and unpredictable. That doesnt, however, change the fact you cold blooded murdered him.... LMAO

I think at 9:00 that the BMW did a Latifi and forgot what corner to take. That’s why he turned in

I used to do Motocross most weekends at a place in the Peak District, whenever a faster bike crashed with a slower bike, it was more often than not, because the slower bike tried to move out of the faster bike's way. We were always taught "Stick to your line and be predictable, the faster bikes will find their own path past you"

Jamble's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by netcode.

Allan McNish would talk about this all the time on the WEC broadcasts. Drivers in multiclass racing are making thousands of minute judgements and decisions every second, especially when it comes to overtaking. Occasionally, there are moments like that where the telepathy breaks down and a faster car will run into a slower car. It's amazing it doesn't happen more often, tbh.

Remember to always resafe joinly once outside track limits, on it Jimmy 🤔

if you look at 9:00 closely it looks like the other car turns into the pink one agressively way before the corner, im not a pro racer but if they where to keep turing similar to that i feel like they would cut straight over the grass. What i think they are doing is going for late block or something.

From myself as a driver in team BRT we thought that you had a meltdown but looking at it now it was just really bad luck and would of really liked too share a podium with you guys after the epic battle between you and ollie not for position but to put you guys down 2 laps so funny and a great race all the same jimmer your the reason i got into sim racing and to be on the same track as you and phil was an honour buddy.

4:19 “resafe joinly”

I think the 8:04 crash was actually on the BMW, cause just before the collision the BMW starts turning sharply to the right directly into the Lambo. Think they may have gotten the track layout confused and tried to turn into the coned off turn, and because that wasn't the correct way crashes into the Lambo.

the brake tapping from the GR86 is a very common issue with the old G27 style pedals from logitech. The potentiometer gets dirty and worn out over time and starts registering an inaccurate pedal position. Typically the brake input in-game will look very jittery and spikey. Mine was actually so bad, that without a fairly significant deadzone set up, my brakes were always on, with spikes being registered all the time.

I posted in that thread you were featured in at the time - the guy posted with the clear effort to gain attention, rather than for what that sub is for - for drivers to gain feedback if an incident was, or was not their fault. The LMP2 guy had no intent, at all, to change his mind that you had decided it was your fault, they agreed and put fully on you. That entire thread was 90% comments, like yours, telling the LMP2 guy that he should have driven in a predictable way.

I still think Jimmy should do Sim Steward Sundays (or maybe every other) as its great content! Also seems to be alot of people's favourite non series - series

I absolutely hate incidents like Jimmy's, you approach the slower class presuming he will take a normal line and knowing its not a good place to pass you slow down. However the slower class has decided to let you through by going slower than usual. That catches me off guard, I panic and lock the brakes.

the dude trying to let you by when you're a second+ back is the prime example of racing streamers/influencers differently when you shouldn't.

8:25 BMW turns into the lambo, BMW is turning either way too early for that corner and would have missed it by a car length or is deliberately turning into the Pink lambo. No matter breaking or whatever he still turns into the lambo.

That Frosties intro was an unexpected blast of nostalgia! It was that game which was one of my biggest intros to sim racing after being sick eating frosties every morning for weeks as a kid.

Being consistent and predictable is the biggest take away from this. Even if your line is wrong if you do the same thing every lap other drivers can at-least know where you will be

Watching Jimmys crash live my reaction was, "What the f**k is this guy doing?"The last thing I would have expected was for the guy to be thinking, "Oh, Jimmy's behind me, I'll just pull over here and stop to let him pass." Really thought the race was over at that point so quite relieved Jimmy got the car to the line. But yea, when you're expecting someone to be predictable your choices will be based on that and when you suddenly discover they arent the amount of time to correct and avoid is minimal.

4:18 always remember to resafe joinly guys

With the brake issue (5:37) it can be broken potentiometer if he's using logitech pedals. It occurs more often the older the pedals are speaking from experience

Yeah the one thing I’ve learned from endurance racing is the slower car always should take the normal line and be predictable and let the faster car do the overtaking. In this case Jimmy did go a bit deep but if the lmp2 car took its normal line then most likely there would be no contact, so I’d just leave it as a racing incident.

Incident #2 at Oulton Park: The car literally disappeared as Jimmy says "He doesn't just disappear" Great comedic timing there

I have a bit of an addiction to real life videos of accidents (or almost accidents) on track and on the street. It started when I spun 3 times on track with other cars and hit absolutely nothing and had no video of it and went looking for in-car videos from other people at that race. It always baffles me when so often the person who VERY clearly screws up in spectacular fashion is instantly angry at the person who did absolutely nothing wrong. I'm not talking about the 50/50 or 40/70 or even the 30/70 calls, but the 100% you sir are the idiot incidents where the idiot is absolutely certain they were done wrong and they insist in telling the actual wronged party in invective filled blaming shouting and screaming. And it happens a LOT!

4:20 was the best timestamp jimmer could have said something like that

On the brakes bit.. I often do this, on purpose. Wait... waaait, hold them pitchforks... On some circuits, where there is a long time between braking zones (spa turn 3, bathurst after the chase, last 3 corners of the ring... you get the idea), brakes tend to be a bit cold at the braking point. So a small tap, or ghosting the brakes for a couple of tenths, usually brings them back to operating temps, making the most on the initial bite of the brake. Also, it allows a deeper braking point ( because you are a bit slower and because your brakes are at a better temperature). To be clear, i think Jimmy is right here. He might be ghosting the brakes inadvertently due to a lack of dead zone. But be aware this is a thing, too.

hearing Jimmy talk about his own incident at the Daytona 24 reminded me of some advice that FailRace gave in a live stream once, specifically in response to someone else asking for general driving advice (because they were about to go for their actual driving license test). it was a two part answer, first "don't ask the internet for advice" (lol), but second and possibly more importantly, "don't be courteous, be predictable".. but honestly, I would say the same concept applies in racing, just with everything happening at much higher speeds and with much less space between vehicles. which makes that idea exponentially more important. "hold your line" isn't just a suggestion, it's an unwritten rule of driving fast.

As someone new to the channel and racing with a wheel in general, this sort of thing is fantastically helpful in learning how it's supposed to be done. It's like AITA court but for racing. 10/10

100% brain fart, was so funny watching it at the time cause it looks like you just crash into him on purpose to the point I thought you had just done the final lap

4:20 "It's now up to him to re-safe joinley" lmao

You must always leave the space -Alonso You have to resafe joinly -Broadbent

4:20 Resafe Joinly haha

Its' not the job of the car being passed to get out of the way, DRIVE YOUR LINE. If you watch much endurance multiclass racing you'll hear them talk about that a lot.

Jimmy, not sure if you've seen but Car Mighty invited you to join him in one of his car hunt vids. He mentioned it in Muye's latest questionable racing video, I think you'd have a great time with them on beamng

If you’d turned inside the P2, you’d have been wiped out on the pit wall on 900th T1. Hilarious in playback that you leave the track to go hunt & kill like its #51 😹

Jimmer punted that last dude, but the P2 is also AT LEAST 50% responsible. Number 1 rule being lapped in multi-class is be predictable. He didn't do that in the slightest. Slower class should NEVER 'get out of the way'. Mistake by the P2, but Jimmer did punt him.

The brake tapping is a known issue for the Logitech g29, the brake pots get a bit dirty and when you yeet on the gas sometimes it gives a dual imput with Brake+gas, and sometimes a neutral brake position makes it flicker up to like 5% sometimes

resafe joinly lmao 4:20

First off....I LOVE these videos! It's a great way to learn what to do in a situation, and how to avoid them. Second.....I really think you were at fault on this one. No matter what your thought process was. Granted, you were tired and probably not thinking correctly. I know you're busy but would love to see more of these.

I watched the Daytona clip live and I think you summed it up great! It was just an unfortunate situation. The lmp2 car was going really slow, you missed your brake point and well you tried to avoid them and couldn't. I'd say the crash is mostly on you but the other car had a big role to play. Driving so slowly even off the racing line causes the following car to close the distance so fast, that it is hard to determine where they are going and what they are doing. You trip over them so easily because of the speed difference alone. Very nice gesture from them but better to race your race..

Remember guys always resafe joinly 4:30

4:20 - love the scramble of words you had going there, Jimmy.

4:19 i will always remember to resafe joinly, thanks jimmer

Yeah my fav series. Wish it was a lil longer

Damn. Hit in the child hood feels with that frosties f1 game.

From Jimmy’s onboard it definitely looks intentional 😂🙈

You should've pressed the secret button on the back of the wheel to activate the QHFD (Quantum Higgs Field Displacement) module and phased through the other drivers car

Honestly when I saw Jimmy’s incident at Daytona I also thought that the P2 car had gone wide but was still going to turn in to T1, so I can definitely see why Jimmer went to the right to try & miss him. It did look worse from onboard tho 🙀Either way I enjoyed watching the race

9:00 It seems to me that the BMW braked early for the corner and the Lambo didn't anticipate it.

9:30 He was actually nice to you, I would clickbait everyone with a title like "Jimmy Broadbent crashes against me on purpose, as seen by his steering wheel, on the last lap of Daytona 24h".

I had a crash at Daytona doing something similar to the P2 in Jimmy's clip. I was trying to yield a corner to a faster driver, drove in my mirrors & missed the brake point so went straight ahead into the tyres at the bus stop. It was my first enduro in 9 months and I was rusty. My takeaway was exactly what Jimmy said, everything about my decision process going into that corner was wrong. I should have focused on my race, drove my line and let the overtake happen after the corner.

To quote Rocket Powered Mohawk: “THROW, HIM, IN, JAIL!! RIGHT NOW!”

Im glad you explained that second clip the way you did, because most sim 'drivers' would rage if they thought they made a clean overtake like that but still got spun out like #4 did, but they have to understand that they would overtake with caution in real life so why not in the game. its a sort of arrogance imo

LOL 0:37 “Who’s this pillock”

100% agree with drive your normal line when being approached by a faster class. Doing anything to ‘assist’ them to pass opens the door to uncertainty and then the zagging when you should be zigging begins, followed by F bombs.

Most of these just look like people who are either starting out, or do not get enough race craft to deal with "Driving the alternate line." People forget most of the people who play sim racing are not professionals, have no plan on going on a team, though occasionally they will drive in a league. There is a difference between deliberate contact, and accidental misjudgment of spatial awareness. And the Jimmy clip, just seems to be the case of "Driver follows driver who makes error and then compounds the error and both cars are now involved." Things change if one of the drivers is a personality, because people drive differently (regardless of sim) when the person they are leading, passing, or drafting just so happens to be a content creator for said sim. Unless your Gran Turismo, then morons just ram the personalities off the road and PD doesn't do anything and you get click bait videos for more views/subs/content in which become the talking point for "Why do I not play online" examples.

Always remember to 'resafe joinly'

3:00 "OOH, a RaceRoom Clip! We don't get many of these!" *cries in DirectX 9*

5:32 I think it is just overly sensitive pedal setup. Mine used to do exactly this and I didn't realise until a chap behind me in a race pointed it out. It didn't affect speed but can defo be offputting to drivers following you close for the brake lights to flicker on and off as you rest your foot on the pedal

Jimmy's argument at one point is right since you can clearly see he turns right but on another point of view it's a deliberate crash 😂😂😂😂

I was driving the car that goes through behind on your clip and we *knew* it'd be on one of these videos. Good on you for being so unbiased about it.

4:20 "resafe joinly" Yes. Flawless English there, Jimmer.

I do really believe that injecting a concept "we all people and do mistakes" into our mindset will make online racing way more cleaner. Whenever we go on the limit we leave no room for mistake to others. And it's not always necessary. In the end we race to have fun.

You know someone is British when they call them "Frostys"

7:50 In my opinion it might also be if the guy is using some pedals like for example logitech G27 pedals they might be dirty af and the potentiometers in the pedals might start reading oddly, hence the flickering, its the first thing i thought about cause i had the same issue on my pedals 💀

4:20 lol "re-safe join-ly"

Is there a 1982 fashion revival in the sim world! Yellow Hair dye from a box, and black nail varnish, I think the time has come to dust off my old Tubeway Army albums.

You know we live in a petty world when the most people took from this video was two mispronounced words... Good video Jimmer, cheers for the advanced race craft tips. I think that Daytona incident was on the other car. You must be predictable, and that car was off line and missed turn in (or was too slow going in). You go left, you clean up at the apex. You go right, he shouldn't be there. You, rightfully, tried to put your car where that car shouldn't have been. But that car, wrongfully, was still there. 80% on them for being unpredictable and off-line, 20% on you for going in too hot.

4:20 Beautiful tip. I never knew that you had to ‘resafe joinly,’ in motorsports. LOL

The BMW lambo crash is 100% on the BMW, there was no corner when he turned in, there was no contact until the BMW decided to turn a decade before the corner.

4:20 “resafe joinly” you what Jim? 😂

It's up to him to "resafe joinly". Proper English. 🤪 Love these videos, though.

@4:20 is my favorite. 'It's now up to him to re-safe joinly.' Excellent!

Absolutely love these videos, please never stop doing them

watching the live stream, you seemed to look away from the race for a "second" and then look back and realize "it was at this moment I F*d up" and that's my amateur opinion from watching the stream, cheers etc. another fun, and educational racing video Thanks.

I came to mention "resafe joinly". Seems like everyone's got it covered already.😂

Good to know that in a multi-class race, the slower cars can hold their racing line when a faster car is approaching. Only drove once in a multi-class race and got out of the way each time a faster car approached me..

2:55 "He can't just disappear" he says, as the guy promptly disappears.

8:24 How is that the lambos fault? The BMW moved to the left to brake and then turned into the lambo to push him off the track?

6:56: that's a dangerous driving incident following a blocking under overtaking manneuver, and can be sanctioned in almost all motorsports

in that raceroom clip can we at least mention the fact that the car didnt go wide of his own accord and the white Cupra pushed him wide from the apex of the last corner all the way to the sand? xD

I tap my brakes just before the braking zone if there's someone less experienced tailing me like "pls no punterino"

Pink Lambo: If we pause at 8:24 and go frame by frame (with "," and ".") into 8:25 we can see, that the BMW turns in waaaaay before the apex. Looks like he's aiming for the other apex behind the cones 🙃

"Resafe joinly" thank you for the laugh.

4:58 This makes iRacing netcode look like heaven! 😂

If "RESAFE JOINLY" were a sticker, I'd put it right above "Pls No Punterino" on the back window of my daily.

Jimmy looking at his own incident is a great example of why you shouldn't assume malice on behalf of other drivers. In isolation the incident looks quite bad but having his thought process explained you can see why it happened even if he is still at fault. Don't fall down the rabbit hole of always assuming the worst in other drivers and sim racing will be a much nicer place