My FAVORITE Sony Picture Profile (and how to color grade it)

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6 жыл бұрын

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I was in Sydney and got to catch up with my bro Justice Brooks. He's an incredible cinematographer and editor who introduced me to his special Sony picture profile originally created by Cinematographer Bradley J. Conomy.
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@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
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@oscararias7103
@oscararias7103 6 жыл бұрын
save yourself some time go to 3:10
@gabrielacosta4126
@gabrielacosta4126 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gabrielacosta4126
@gabrielacosta4126 5 жыл бұрын
Though its not even worth it!
@maosadao6689
@maosadao6689 5 жыл бұрын
Ty dude!
@airindiana
@airindiana 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@CryptidHunter_official
@CryptidHunter_official 5 жыл бұрын
The world owns you a free beer.
@ambitiouskant6603
@ambitiouskant6603 5 жыл бұрын
start from 3:13 Before that were basically about how cool and awesome he is and " stuff like that"
@clickryanG
@clickryanG 6 жыл бұрын
Just FYI for Sony a7iii users / The Picture profile is found in first Tab 'camera icon' 1 / screen 12 /14 / last shown option 'Picture Profile ' / thxs for the insight Olumfemii, keep it up!
@grindinsilence3747
@grindinsilence3747 3 жыл бұрын
Hands 🙌🏾 down the best picture profile that I’ve ran into!
@jonathan_speaks
@jonathan_speaks 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Shooting in this profile tomorrow💪🏽
@MohamadNoorRizal
@MohamadNoorRizal 5 жыл бұрын
thanks man this is very helpful!
@51Drones
@51Drones 6 жыл бұрын
Very timely video for me as I have been struggling with my A7iii to get the colors right. I will try this and let you know how it goes! Thanks for sharing!
@sachinmajotra9665
@sachinmajotra9665 6 жыл бұрын
any update?
@51Drones
@51Drones 6 жыл бұрын
I have had the most success this week shooting PP1 as it's set. I will continue to explore!
@adebayoakanbi977
@adebayoakanbi977 6 жыл бұрын
Please kindly update us on the colors. I’m getting a7iii and the Color issue is the only thing holding me back.
@1stepclosermedia627
@1stepclosermedia627 6 жыл бұрын
Any updates? I have the A7iii
@MsAndreaskastrup
@MsAndreaskastrup 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get the full details on the profile settings? Because i have messed around with them myself and i’m not sure whether i have touched the ones on pp5, so i might change the settings as you guys have explained, but the other ones might be off and i would like to not reset all my camera settings. Cheers
@jonathanacuna
@jonathanacuna 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. So helpful!!!
@javebjorkman
@javebjorkman 6 жыл бұрын
Wow fantastic vid! So gooooood
@Djmagicblack
@Djmagicblack 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man thank you!
@AndreiVaida
@AndreiVaida 3 жыл бұрын
From my personal experience with Sony a6600 in 2021: 1. For best in-camera shooting: I prefer Cine 1 instead Cine 2 because it has slightly higher dynamic range in the highlights. 2. For editing: I use the new HLG 3 gamma because it has great dynamic range and is good both for grading and for using directly (just by adding some contrast). This video was however very useful in 2018 (and today as well).
@YasserAbdelmonsef
@YasserAbdelmonsef Жыл бұрын
Agree
@palpafilms
@palpafilms 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the purity ring in the background.
@MarcosRochaTV
@MarcosRochaTV 6 жыл бұрын
I am so gonna try it out!! Thanks. I like Cine4 a lot, but I always open to experiment.
@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
Marcos Rocha dope man. I’ve been use it on my camera for the last couple of weeks and have been loving it
@adamdrakestudio
@adamdrakestudio 6 жыл бұрын
Cine 4 is meant for lower light.
@hopjumpa
@hopjumpa 5 жыл бұрын
Cine4 ftw
@davidokon2988
@davidokon2988 5 жыл бұрын
@@Olufemii What's the IRE for zebras for this picture profile?
@swxviolin
@swxviolin 6 жыл бұрын
Man always dropping jewels been watching for a while! Your intro on this vid is hella dope, been tryna figure out what and how you achieved this frame at 00:37 been trying to figure out how to do something similar for a minute but no idea what to even call it to find a tutorial lmao
@gxrsky
@gxrsky 4 жыл бұрын
been trying to been trying
@RexRogersBeats
@RexRogersBeats 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I just developed this exact profile on my A7s with the same lens. Cine 2 the goat
@aldovalencia6539
@aldovalencia6539 5 жыл бұрын
What camera did you record this interview. Really liking the creamy color.
@j1jh002
@j1jh002 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@FiFtyUanA
@FiFtyUanA 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome the color of the Sony, but, ¿what is the best profile for cameras Canon DSLR and the best process for improve this colors with grading? May be a good idea for a next tutorial. Respects.
@RockWILK
@RockWILK 3 жыл бұрын
Awesomely dope. Thank you.
@DuhanAlexandr
@DuhanAlexandr 5 жыл бұрын
so good tutorial! thx ))
@ladiabla420
@ladiabla420 Жыл бұрын
love it 😍
@jakpan265
@jakpan265 5 жыл бұрын
Hello help me please. I collected the clip in raw in Adobe and wanted to transfer to the after-effect. But after the effect, the raw camera opens and he himself changed the color of the video! What is the problem help please can not open the raw format in the after-effect
@packotulais4041
@packotulais4041 5 жыл бұрын
What's up dude! What monitor do you use to correct the color of your videos? Thanks!
@SushilSidhardhan
@SushilSidhardhan 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Just noticed the sample clip shown is a .mov file, just curious about what FPS it was shot at?
@J_S_Production
@J_S_Production 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video how to download profiles for Sony a6000? Thank you
@olaraay
@olaraay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys , will give this a try
@ShriHariProductions
@ShriHariProductions 5 жыл бұрын
at 0.18 what rig you are using for shoulder and is it good for handheld shots mostly ?
@judecalvillo165
@judecalvillo165 4 жыл бұрын
I just tried this for a short film shoot. Overall, it was GREAT, and that "detail" setting appears to help overcome the issue of so much sharpness, with Sony cams, that they look fake or 90s broadcast-like. My only complaint is that, with this color space, the mid-day sky, in a cloudy area (Pacific Northwest), appeared so blue that I'm not sure I'll be able to adapt those particular scenes in post. We'll see. Crossing my fingers! - Thanks, overall, for some great settings.
@kaana.2719
@kaana.2719 2 жыл бұрын
You can use hue vs sat to bring down the sat and hue vs hue to change the color
@DivergentMediaGroup
@DivergentMediaGroup 6 жыл бұрын
So would this picture profile not be ideal if you’re shooting in natural lighting?
@DigitalVell
@DigitalVell 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information video ! Quick question since he turned down the detail that means he need to sharpen in post right ? And if so when do you sharpen after color grading of before ?
@JonaszOlszewski
@JonaszOlszewski 6 жыл бұрын
Don't sharpen, cinematic projects are more smooth.
@ShawnMiltonSinger
@ShawnMiltonSinger 5 жыл бұрын
Jonasz Olszewski no he’s right but sometimes client asks for the quality as some of them don’t have much technical knowledge and they watch the videos on phone mostly..
@MarcParisel
@MarcParisel 4 жыл бұрын
Helloooo and thanks for the great content. Does this profile works for low light conditions? Cheers
@MarcParisel
@MarcParisel 4 жыл бұрын
slow mazda yep i tweaked that one, so I was thinking maybe there could have another shade/version of it. Thanks
@eddienom
@eddienom 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@hiselectmedia
@hiselectmedia 6 жыл бұрын
Amen, I'm planning to try this soon. Thanks Josh and Justice. GOD Bless you brothers!
@warapox7935
@warapox7935 6 жыл бұрын
Good video!!
@VideoUpskill
@VideoUpskill 6 жыл бұрын
Cine 2 is interesting, I was always favouring Cine 4. I'll check out the differences though in most cases the action/story content in front of a camera is what counts, though colors play a role in telling that story.
@NAM3L3555
@NAM3L3555 5 жыл бұрын
I think is the best for all cine 4 if you have time cine 2 or hlg 2
@alwayscreatingio
@alwayscreatingio 6 жыл бұрын
Needed this!
@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Van 🔥🔥🔥🙌🏾
@drewkocak
@drewkocak 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between cine2 and cine4? 🤔🤔
@HollyHargreaves
@HollyHargreaves 4 жыл бұрын
Australia represent (I'm a Melbourne based filmmaker) Great tips, thanks.
@DiegoPerez-oz4wo
@DiegoPerez-oz4wo 5 жыл бұрын
can i get that setting on the a7 ?
@VagabondOriginal
@VagabondOriginal 5 жыл бұрын
So helpful, man. Great work.
@promofilmbymonikawasik9572
@promofilmbymonikawasik9572 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for this video
@kamotionmarketing
@kamotionmarketing 6 жыл бұрын
This needs 3 thumbs up!
@danielakachi3666
@danielakachi3666 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@ELJAGUAR
@ELJAGUAR 6 жыл бұрын
thanks josh! i will try next time i have a sony in my hands
@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
ELJAGUARTV.COM do it brotha!
@wellproductionfilm
@wellproductionfilm 4 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup !
@amandalove6333
@amandalove6333 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks love 💓
@christopherbromley409
@christopherbromley409 5 жыл бұрын
Slog 3 does not have banding if you expose correctly. One stop over is the sweet spot.
@JunkBondTrader
@JunkBondTrader 3 жыл бұрын
Cine 2 is good for banding.
@KurtDeMeuterFilms
@KurtDeMeuterFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Great help, thx !! I have a question for picture profile, I want to buy a Sony a7iii, can I choose the same picture profile settings as shown in this video ?
@MattDelovino
@MattDelovino 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can. the a7iii has the same menu system for Picture profiles so you are able to change each picture profile accordingly.
@KurtDeMeuterFilms
@KurtDeMeuterFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Delovino thanks!
@JonathanRichey
@JonathanRichey 6 жыл бұрын
How does one get noticed by/ or get hired by organizations like Hillsong/A21/Compassion?
@JWEggers
@JWEggers 6 жыл бұрын
looks great! Any recommendations for the Sony FS5? Edit (Never mind it's the same) ;)
@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
JWEggers yeah should be the same settings
@MarlonKingShow
@MarlonKingShow 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, just purchased an a6500, not sure if the profiles are exactly the same but can try. I don’t want to use slog but want something that still give flexibility and work in most situations. I have too heard that cine 4 is good. But thanks for breaking it down in the menus. Do you need to reset the profile in any manner?
@WorldofThaiFood
@WorldofThaiFood 5 жыл бұрын
You can use any of the a6500 picture profiles but probably easier to use the lower range. We've set our customs settings to PP2.
@JohnJonesRocketCity
@JohnJonesRocketCity 5 жыл бұрын
I’d probably check out cody blues settings. He uses cine 4 on the a6500 which is not as flat as slog but gives an awesome all around result and it’s better in low light than this profile they are talking about here. But if you are looking for a killer low light profile then check out “make. art. now.” he has a spectacular video with the a7iii and it will probably work with the a6500 as well. Worth a try at least.
@WorldofThaiFood
@WorldofThaiFood 5 жыл бұрын
EOSHD is another option. Go to their website and you'll get clear instructions on how to dial in the PP settings on your A6500 for just a few bucks. We've used EOS HD settings for almost a year and find the color to be slightly easier to grade than standard PPs (you'll quite often find that your A6500 video output has a green tint no matter how you adjust PPs, white balance - its not always easy to remove in post while still maintaining natural skin tones and color)
@MarlonKingShow
@MarlonKingShow 5 жыл бұрын
World of Thai Food and suga foot - thank you, I will check out these settings and see what works best for my videos.
@Houstnwehavuhoh
@Houstnwehavuhoh 5 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofThaiFood How is it fairing in low light for you? I have the profile and love it, but I feel even in slightly dull light its noise city.
@kevinjack5184
@kevinjack5184 3 жыл бұрын
Will this work with the Rx100 vii?
@grider46
@grider46 4 жыл бұрын
Verry nice in raw also !
@ironnori5848
@ironnori5848 4 жыл бұрын
you just saved me months of gradeStudySHit.. thanks man
@FretlessSunday
@FretlessSunday 4 жыл бұрын
it is work on a6500 too?
@DelReiRock
@DelReiRock 5 жыл бұрын
Why all my edited PP always resets after changing the Memory Recall?
@thisisfela
@thisisfela 5 жыл бұрын
memory recall resets them to the attributes they were saved. if you wanna keep the PP settings just use manual mode or something else.
@santoshwalwekar
@santoshwalwekar 6 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on knee value, does is it have an impact on highlight roll off?
@teegreenburg
@teegreenburg 4 жыл бұрын
VALUABLE!!!
@RameshDura
@RameshDura 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the audio is so.. crisp!!
@jonathanrivera8681
@jonathanrivera8681 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have to be pp5? Or can it be used for other picture profiles? I’ve heard pp10 is very good if used well
@kaana.2719
@kaana.2719 2 жыл бұрын
Afaik it can be any profile
@JesusImageWorshipMoments
@JesusImageWorshipMoments 5 жыл бұрын
Hillsong Y&F so surprised when i saw this
@nathanesai
@nathanesai 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@SimonBauer
@SimonBauer 6 жыл бұрын
HLG is my fave, very minimal noise!
@Netaction
@Netaction Жыл бұрын
HLG has less noise because of the missing information. It is made for the resulting video and even then only for at least 10 bit. Setting the camera to HLG because of the colors is a way to say you have no clue what you are doing :-)
@blackbird8837
@blackbird8837 4 жыл бұрын
ok so.. use this setting because... it's the best... and then use this... there's also this and that, but you kinda wanna go with that here.... great tutorial :D :D :D
@QuinebaugOutdoors
@QuinebaugOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have the picture profile option on my Sony A7. Please help!
@manjoco
@manjoco 5 жыл бұрын
You won't have it unless you upgrade it to A7mk2
@anzhonnycastillo1731
@anzhonnycastillo1731 4 жыл бұрын
5:28 I also try to avoid shooting people in a documentary style situation 😂
@VanMartyVideo
@VanMartyVideo 4 жыл бұрын
Anzhonny Castillo who doesn’t😅
@VanMartyVideo
@VanMartyVideo 4 жыл бұрын
Just an amateur question here: you say that the closest to get rec709 is cinema in cine2 color mode... Wouldn’t rec709 in HLG color profile be closer to look like rec709? 🤷‍♂️ just doesn’t make sense to me, please explain
@VanMartyVideo
@VanMartyVideo 4 жыл бұрын
iDonKenneth ok thanks for the info and the reply👍🏻
@jazz63
@jazz63 6 жыл бұрын
Hi would this profile also be good for a6500 ?
@hopjumpa
@hopjumpa 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, for sure
@javiaep
@javiaep 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have a sony a7 and this option is not in my camera? How it is posible?
@MTB-channel
@MTB-channel 5 жыл бұрын
Javi AEP the A7 mki does not have picture profiles
@MrNeurovegal
@MrNeurovegal 5 жыл бұрын
I was lost at the third "stuff like that..."
@Dialectdiva
@Dialectdiva 4 жыл бұрын
Do you need to overexpose by 2 for cine2 ,as you would with slog2?
@Laertesthebarber76
@Laertesthebarber76 3 жыл бұрын
no you dont
@colerayofficial
@colerayofficial 6 жыл бұрын
What handheld mic are you using?
@JoeCook1998
@JoeCook1998 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Zoom1
@JonJOn0
@JonJOn0 5 жыл бұрын
Man, so much teasing.
@jasonubrown
@jasonubrown 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that still confuses me is what is the difference between black level and black gamma? They seem so similar.
@OO1O11O1
@OO1O11O1 6 жыл бұрын
can this be done on the sony a9?
@WorldofThaiFood
@WorldofThaiFood 5 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@riccardotonin1732
@riccardotonin1732 4 жыл бұрын
Black Level 0 Gamma Cine2 Color Mode Cinema Detail -7 done
@matthewpaquette
@matthewpaquette 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Paquette thanks brotha!
@floatingrabbit3556
@floatingrabbit3556 5 жыл бұрын
Someone still finds a reason to dislike stuff. It's not even about preference, some people just don't appreciate a good free lesson. No really if you disliked this, you either have thousands of dollars to go learn this in film school or you really REALLY just suck at being human. Great video btw.
@victorfilm_
@victorfilm_ 5 жыл бұрын
is it possible to get 10 bit recording on an external monitor like Atomos?
@michaeljacobs472
@michaeljacobs472 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but it all depends if your camera can output that signal. I think the A7s is only 8-bit. Same with the a7s2. I imagine the a7s3 will have 10-bit internal recording when it comes out.
@laoyourface
@laoyourface 5 жыл бұрын
No, not with a7s2 or a6500 etc. They are 8 bit. You have to go FS5 or FS7 down the Sony route. If you want affordable 10bit then go for BMPCC 4k!
@DeltadronesBr
@DeltadronesBr 6 жыл бұрын
This profile works well in a6500?
@DatoAliffAlex
@DatoAliffAlex 6 жыл бұрын
Delta Drones yea same question here
@QuinzeCoisaBoa
@QuinzeCoisaBoa 6 жыл бұрын
yeap, works
@christoalin8753
@christoalin8753 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried shooting photos in cine profile Nd does it work ?
@yttean98
@yttean98 5 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner I find it useful.
@downhometv3237
@downhometv3237 5 жыл бұрын
I just did some test shots with this around the house and they were great. A very minimal grade provided extraordinary colors. The grade is super light and doesn't weigh down the 8-bit video. I'll be doing a lot more tests this week. White balance is super important. No AWB.
@justdominik2660
@justdominik2660 5 жыл бұрын
Du you know if any of the other options have to be modified? Is it only the 3 settings?
@downhometv3237
@downhometv3237 5 жыл бұрын
@@justdominik2660 I only changed the settings listed in the video. I did my first shoot yesterday with it and the footage was nice and easy to grade. It was easy to get vibrant colors.
@justdominik2660
@justdominik2660 5 жыл бұрын
@@downhometv3237 That sounds fantastic! So you just changed the settings on PP5 like shown in the video. I am a little bit confused because he mentions that it's not important which profile you change. But it is. The preseted Picture Profiles have some other settings modified like knee and color depth.
@downhometv3237
@downhometv3237 5 жыл бұрын
@@justdominik2660 Go to PP5 add change the settings. That's what he did and I did.
@bluefilmsltd
@bluefilmsltd 4 жыл бұрын
Why Cine 2 over Cine 4?
@marcusruiz2971
@marcusruiz2971 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, you should check out EOSHD Sony picture profile.
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video with the specs to Focus Mode, Metering Mode, Focus Area, Aperture, Shutter Speed... All these things people doesn't say on actual videos. I think it could be cool.
@tyler-chung
@tyler-chung 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rp-TmaiKzrbTgJc.html it isnt the greatest in audio but I did make a video on shutter speed ,aperture, and iso
3 жыл бұрын
@@tyler-chung That was not exactly what i was saying, but is a great content. Like!
@tyler-chung
@tyler-chung 3 жыл бұрын
@ ahh sorry! What were you looking for more specifically. I would love to cover it in the future since clearly it is a topic of interest
3 жыл бұрын
@@tyler-chung Don't worry. You've created a great content. I'd like to learn more about "Metering Mode", "Focus Area", "Focus Mode" with examples, as you did in your video, speaking deep about that funcions. I want to know what exactly the functions do, you know? I set it different some times, but i never know how to set for each situation. Have a nice week.
@MrWeizhi926
@MrWeizhi926 6 жыл бұрын
Just someone starting to learn video here. So can I only adjust the settings in PP5? Or can I do that with any other profiles in the camera?
@allinoneproductionsinc8807
@allinoneproductionsinc8807 6 жыл бұрын
You can change any Picture Profile settings.
@gabrielesaladino6526
@gabrielesaladino6526 5 жыл бұрын
Which lens is he using guys? Any help?
@tampacam360
@tampacam360 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriele Saladino it looks like he's got a Canon 50mm 1.4 with a Metabones adapter. The Metabones probably cost more than the lens! I would guess he has Canon lenses from previous cameras, like a 5DMkIII.
@detailsmove
@detailsmove 6 жыл бұрын
Gems. Ty
@Olufemii
@Olufemii 6 жыл бұрын
detailsmove thanks for watching!
@smackdaddy9802
@smackdaddy9802 5 жыл бұрын
What if you did everything except instead of Cinema you do Sgamut3.cine?
@littlecloudproductions-vid9937
@littlecloudproductions-vid9937 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a video on white balance on your camera
@karimsaleh7034
@karimsaleh7034 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody’s talking about how this greatly decreases the dynamic range of the camera...
@Netaction
@Netaction Жыл бұрын
The decrease of dynamic range in post is intended as most of us export in Rec709 which only allows a limited dynamic range.
@janduplessis1674
@janduplessis1674 6 жыл бұрын
Rec709, Arri, Canon look...this is what happens when you get all your insight from Hillsongs bro!
@QuizyyQuiz
@QuizyyQuiz 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid question but is this more for Video than images?
@bryanerivera
@bryanerivera 5 жыл бұрын
yessir, video
@hopjumpa
@hopjumpa 5 жыл бұрын
For images I would not use any PP
@ayodawg7653
@ayodawg7653 5 жыл бұрын
WHEN I LET GOOOOO THEN I FIND LIFE ! Lol
@mayowaolugboji3576
@mayowaolugboji3576 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video dozens of times and find it hard to believe that’s just it. Will it give me the same look for my 6500? Or is the color science different between the two cameras. I think I might be doing something wrong.
@CarlBergsdorf
@CarlBergsdorf 4 жыл бұрын
Mayowa Olugboji it should be pretty similar between the cameras. Make sure the values he didnt mention are at 0 like black level and the color stuff. Then he had a very nicely lit and exposed clip which probably would look great with no pic profile at all
@mayowaolugboji3576
@mayowaolugboji3576 4 жыл бұрын
Carl Bergsdorf thanks again, I appreciate you
@qtben17
@qtben17 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody is pointing out that the sitdown interview scene has major green tint to it. Walls, tables, jacket are all looking greenish. Yet the video is all about getting rid of it. 🙌
@LorenzoGiaimo
@LorenzoGiaimo 6 жыл бұрын
Hi man! can you recommend a monitor for FHD 24" videoediting? Maximum budget 150 €
@Milan-cf1xe
@Milan-cf1xe 5 жыл бұрын
there is a good Samsung monitor i use it too. it Costs like 120
@ginatinyverge9661
@ginatinyverge9661 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it.
@willtillfofill
@willtillfofill 4 жыл бұрын
But what glass?
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