My final thoughts on the BMW RnineT, and Comparing it to my Triumph Bonneville.

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Freddie Dobbs

Freddie Dobbs

3 жыл бұрын

I go on a ride into Eynsford in Kent and get my 2010 Triumph Bonneville out to compare it side by side to see how one of the more aggressive modern classics (the RnineT) compares with with a far more relaxed modern(ish) classic motorcycle.
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@bradmacdowell6583
@bradmacdowell6583 3 ай бұрын
I know this video is a couple of years old now, but if you're watching this because you're interested in buying one of these, this is by far the best and most accurate review of the bike. I've had my R nineT for three years now and every talking point mentioned here is spot on. I stop and look at the bike every time I get off of it, and I appreciate the build quality every time I get on it. It feels like it was machined out of a solid block of aluminum or something. Great video.
@shawnvarghese1533
@shawnvarghese1533 3 жыл бұрын
The R Nine T is an achingly pretty motorcycle.. I'd buy it for its looks alone.. I want one!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you!🙂🙌
@cuthbertjellyhead
@cuthbertjellyhead 2 жыл бұрын
agreed. I've owned an R Nine T Pure for the last 3 years and I love it. I've recently considered trading it in, so i've test rode a street triple 765, an S1000R and an R1250R. All of which are technically superior machines, the only one that came close to being a consideration was the R1250R, but it's just too ugly. It looks like i'll be keeping my R Nine T for the foreseeable future lol
@TheRealDr.Mabuse
@TheRealDr.Mabuse 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I never put any thought into getting a mc license until I saw one :)
@therealeugenecussons
@therealeugenecussons 2 жыл бұрын
Had my R9T for 10k km and I can’t imagine riding anything else. It crawls into your heart and stays there
@garryclarke-kray4071
@garryclarke-kray4071 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Freddie, your enthusiasm is infectious thanks mate
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support Garry!🙂🙌🙌
@antonioaverbene2919
@antonioaverbene2919 3 жыл бұрын
hi Freddie, thank you for your review. I have been watching reviews of this monster for almost 1.5 yrs now waiting to be able to buy it, and your vlogs about it are the best, most complete, most honest, clearest and useful I've watched. Thnks for making everything clear, every detail and every information that could me needed. keep it up.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Antonio, Thank you so much, I'm so glad you enjoyed the review!🙂 I hope you manage to buy one soon- it's a dream of a bike!
@Zigzagzo1
@Zigzagzo1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Freddie. Just wanted to let you know that this is the best bike review I’ve seen since a long time! Absolutely brilliant. Thanks for that and … keep on rocking! Chris
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, Thank you so much, that means a lot! So glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the support!
@machos
@machos 3 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding and passionate review. You spoke about your love for the Triumph and you explained how this one is equally as special. Probably my next bike. 🥰
@discoramen8109
@discoramen8109 2 жыл бұрын
Freddie, your review was the final nail in the coffin as i am picking up a 2018 r nine t vintage. Your passionate review relieved all doubts i had.
@vitorcosta7633
@vitorcosta7633 3 жыл бұрын
Spectacular review / thoughts. I was completely hung up on a tiumph street scrambler, but after watching a few videos about this machine and its simply beautiful aspect I couldn't resist. I am desperately waiting for the arrival of my r nine t 2021 scrambler. ... now just say that it is phenomenally pleasant to see the enthusiasm of your speech. congratulations and greetings from Portugal.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wooooow- the R9T Scrambler; that is s ridiculously cool bike!🖤🏍👌🏻 Thank you so much Vitor, that means a lot!🙂 And good luck impatiently waiting for your dream bike- happy riding!🙂🤘🏼🤘🏼
@joelgriffin2852
@joelgriffin2852 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs does the bmw r nine t scrambler have the same agressive and uncomfortable riding issues that you mentioned in this video?
@ideal4634
@ideal4634 2 жыл бұрын
Your review is so spot on & honest. I own the R9T and i know all the pros & cons you referred to in this video. i now wish to rider a triumph just to see if i can consider one for my next bike.
@antoinerozes7420
@antoinerozes7420 Жыл бұрын
The Bonneville was a legend and still is. Almost a mythical bike, from a time when British bikes such as Norton, BSA were a major player on the motorbike market. Yet, three or four years ago l bought a 9T. No regrets whatsoever. An excellent review in any case. Well done.
@dermur68
@dermur68 Жыл бұрын
That's the problem - Bonneville is a brand, practically nothing to do with the original Triumph - the old Triumph company is long gone. It's just brand value. The R9T is more authentic and superior, like the Kawasaki W800 (if faithfulness to the original is what you're after). The Thruxton is more of a fair comparison, but again, anyone thinking modern Triumphs is anything more that a brand purchase is deluding themselves. Why do you think the Norton and BSA brands are resurfacing? $$$.
@Dranreb865
@Dranreb865 2 ай бұрын
Mythical bike that's made in Thailand and keeps releasing entry-level models.. Sounds not too mythical for me.
@christopheleroy5697
@christopheleroy5697 23 күн бұрын
Moto inventé par des allemands 😂…triumph 😂😂😂😂
@ivorwood402
@ivorwood402 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed both videos. I own a 2016 R9T sport, such a cool bike, everyone stops and talks to you and so much fun to ride, looks and sounds great as well. Look forward some more videos.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivor, so glad you enjoyed the videos! Its a very very special bike!👌🏻🖤
@logangallagher7050
@logangallagher7050 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very relaxing and cheerful. I've never really been into retro bikes before but since watching your videos I now really want one.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Logan! I think it's like a bit of a bug that you can catch out of the blue with these modern classics!😆
@gdfggggg
@gdfggggg 3 жыл бұрын
You need lots of spare cash..
@christophermcdermott6119
@christophermcdermott6119 3 жыл бұрын
Have to agree with you on some of your criticisms and certainly all of your comments particularly after owning the RnineT for 2years now. It has a uniqueness unsurpassed by none. This is and always will be "The bike" for me. I love it and it brings joy to my life the moment I hop on. I have up graded by adding a comfort seat, raised handle bar spacer (20mm) and about to add Ohlins rear shock. No bike is perfect in it's originality and parts aren't cheep but I now ride with Gods when I ride my RnineT. From Australia, ride like there's no 2moro. 😎👍
@christophermcdermott6119
@christophermcdermott6119 3 жыл бұрын
PS I previously owned a Triumph bike and agree it was some what more comfortable, but I don't really notice when I'm mesmerised by the RnineT.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh and R9T in Australia- superb!! I's do the exact same mods as you if I owned an R9T (seat and raised bars)- I can imagine they transform the bike's comfort. Happy riding Chris!🙂
@robertdavis4761
@robertdavis4761 3 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews!! BMW should just give you this bike as a way of thanking you for the excellent unbiased marketing you are doing! You’ve convinced me and this could definitely be my next bike (and I’m a Triumph guy too)!!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Robert, hugely appreciated!🙂
@cuthbertjellyhead
@cuthbertjellyhead 2 жыл бұрын
There is good reason why first gear doesn't clunk. The triumph has a multi plate wet clutch which has drag, so first gear on any bike with a wet clutch will go with a clunk. The R Nine T has a single plate dry clutch, just like what's in a car, these have no inertial drag and hence first gear just pops in quite silently. as an R nine T owner its something you soon get used to
@wandering_armadillo
@wandering_armadillo 3 жыл бұрын
I may have a new favourite Brit Bike Blogger 👏🏻 Engaging commentary, bike passion and the scenic filming is top notch!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Di, I’m so glad you like it and thank you for the support!🙌🏻🙂
@wandering_armadillo
@wandering_armadillo 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs So much so that I came back for another watch tonight, and to annoy some of the lads in the comments section 😉
@johnlenart597
@johnlenart597 2 ай бұрын
Just came across this video and I'm a r9t pure owner. Regular forks and not as good suspention but fell in live with the Teal (light blue) color and was also a lower price. I call it my hooligan bike because at 70 I still love it's power band, the super brakes and style. BMW class it as a retro bike. I have toured on it and have done hours at 70-83 mph and throughly enjoy every part of it. 👍👍5🏍🙋‍♂️
@marcelfok2561
@marcelfok2561 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Had a Bonnie T100 back in 2012, then saw the RNineT at a test day and fell in love. Sold the Bonnie and have had my R9T since August 2014. Don’t plan to sell it ever! Exhaust note is wonderful because it’s still a Euro 4. Those Akrapovic pipes are stock by the way. Rode it down to Sardinia in 2015 and found it comfortable, but I’m only short (170cm). I think every penny extra over the Bonnie is worth it personally. It’s so well engineered and the 1200cc boxer engine is magnificent.
@ahmeda.3198
@ahmeda.3198 11 ай бұрын
This is an excellent review. Informative, beautiful scenery, and some really nice music kicking right now.
@barneymanningtree497
@barneymanningtree497 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, and you make a very valid point between the aggressive and the relaxed spectrum of these retro bikes. I have a 2016 RNinet, the latest in a long line of bikes and I love the thing. I did make one mod to the original and that was add 2 inch risers (OEM from BMW) to sit a bit more upright, much easier on the wrists. I live in country Western Australia and all my rides are mostly long distance highway speed stuff. The Beemer is perfect for this style of ride, plenty of power, handles the bumps beautifully and has a useful range from the 18 litre tank (about 4 gallons). My only gripe is the lack of a fuel gauge (no biggy), everything else suits me down to the ground. This one is a keeper.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barney! That's a very good shout- I'd do the exact same mod if I owned an R9T- I can imagine it transforms the comfort! I completely forgot to mention the lack of fuel gauge in the video- I agree that it really should have one!
@billwilliams9362
@billwilliams9362 2 жыл бұрын
Im coming over to wa soon , interesting you say its good on long rides as i was wondering , im in syd and just sold my bmw f800st which was a very good touring bike but now i want tottaly upright.
@markb3180
@markb3180 3 жыл бұрын
I'm at the relaxed end of riding, so it's the Triumph for me! Great idea doing the comparison. Looking forward to the next episode!!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Mark! I personally like the more relaxed bikes too👌🏻👌🏻
@chich22
@chich22 3 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel as keep looking for RnineT content. No joke... yours has been the best so far. I’ve subscribed and smashed the bell. Look forward to more content 👍🏽🤟🏽🏍
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Franco, that means a lot!!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
@paulguthenberg364
@paulguthenberg364 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight, much appreciated mate. After being taken out by a blue VW Van and loosing my 2020 BMW R1250 R and was pretty busted up myself, as soon as I could I specked out my replacement ride. I ordered and have received my 2021 BMW R 1250 GS TRIPLE BLACK fully loaded with every option. After putting on 1,400k I’ve realized I specked the bike out with a defiant attitude in order to allow myself to calibrate the attitude and commitment I would require to fully throw myself into the Rehab process in order to achieve as high recovery as possible. It worked perfectly as I am at about 80% recovered. The only areas to focus on now are strength and endurance. I feel this new ride in its sheer size, weight and due to its capabilities is zapping the Joy out of the ride for me. It has served its purpose and I fully appreciate it for all that it offers but I no longer have the need to concur the world. 😂 To put it bluntly, although I am a quiet man, I was pissed. In that I wasn’t going to allow someone who wasn’t paying attention while entering an roundabout Rob me of my Passion. This new bike validated exactly what I felt and knew in my heart. Which is, that I had no anxiety, fear or concerns of riding. So, my question is this. Between a 2023 R 1250 R and a 2023 R nineT Scrambler have you any insight on the comparison between these two? How I’ve ended up narrowing it down to these two is that I love the Boxer, I have need for the capability for both Urban and fire route roads in to North cottages and country roads but as well I would like to have a the capability of saddle bags. A passenger is not a high requirement but hey you never know. I am having a tough time deciding as they each offer a different limited mix of my requirements but neither offer them all. Much appreciated Cheers 👍🏍🇨🇦
@georgek8545
@georgek8545 9 ай бұрын
I hope all is going well for you mate 👍🛣️
@redmondfriar7296
@redmondfriar7296 3 жыл бұрын
Very well articulated and informative review mate! Thanks for putting the time in. Subbed!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the support, really glad you enjoyed it!🙂
@thespiritualsagaofanidiots3527
@thespiritualsagaofanidiots3527 2 жыл бұрын
great review side by side, you brought up many points that others don't and it would make me lean to the more comfortable Triumph.
@servomekanism8505
@servomekanism8505 Жыл бұрын
You are exceptional man. I'm so glad I found this channel.
@Entrenuages
@Entrenuages 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Bonneville and RNineT are being compared a lot for good reasons but they are very different machines, especially if you look at all the different iterations. I sold my RnineT Scrambler for a Triumph Bobber Black and there's just something about the bobber that the RNineT couldn't provide. Granted, they are very different in terms of riding style, position, exhaust note, but I couldn't be happier about the switch!
@johnambro7181
@johnambro7181 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and honest review, I have been looking at the scrambler version of this line and appreciate your take on the BMW's rnineT bikes. Good stuff Mr. Dobbs, and Cheers to you.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, really glad you found it useful!
@drivingontheedge9391
@drivingontheedge9391 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video dude, loving you’re style. Keep them coming. 👍 Looking forward to the HD review!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it! Harley video should be live this evening- what a rollercoaster for day one with it!
@DDingle668
@DDingle668 3 жыл бұрын
I see big things for you mate, your channel is exceedingly good, early days, but I can’t wait to watch your journey and see your followers explode in numbers.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much David, that means a lot!🙂🙌🏻🙌🏻
@russelllocke7180
@russelllocke7180 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your work & style of presentation.
@hemitheoi
@hemitheoi 2 жыл бұрын
I own a T120 Black from Triumph and did two test drives on this BMW bike yesterday and I agree 100% with everything you said. Very unbiased! Thanks
@robertstimmel1100
@robertstimmel1100 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Bonneville Bobber and now ride an r nine t. I love both of the bikes for different reasons and would be happy to have either/both in my garage. For me, being a shorter rider, the Bobber was more comfortable, but both are a blast to ride
@Txl66
@Txl66 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Looking forward to seeing the livewire !!!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Todd, so excited for the Livewire!!😆
@s4awd2
@s4awd2 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. The side by side comparo you did was tops
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, really glad you enjoyed the video!🙂
@brianglendenning1632
@brianglendenning1632 3 жыл бұрын
That was great - authentic, informative and you took us to some nice parts of the UK (some of which I recognised). Thanks - new subscriber
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for your support Brian, really glad you enjoyed the video!
@darrenharris8909
@darrenharris8909 8 ай бұрын
I test rode a 2015 R9T and loved it and so I'm purchasing it. A nice step up from my fabulous interceptor.
@sungvin7628
@sungvin7628 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you in KZfaq! Here is South Korea. I saw your pics in Instagram before. I love the photos because I have a motorcycle Triumph Thruxton R. Thank you for great videos and pics.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Great to have a watcher in South Korea!🙂. Oh wow- the Thruxton R is veeeery special!😍. Thanks very much for the support!
@bastrix69
@bastrix69 3 жыл бұрын
I love the looks of this bike. My favorite classic looking bike... Great review btw!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! It's a stunner!
@petermiller8634
@petermiller8634 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent unbiased review thank you. I want one !!!
@ste4282
@ste4282 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your reviews. Thank you!
@oliverbones8966
@oliverbones8966 2 жыл бұрын
Just pulled the trigger on a 2021 R9T 719 Pollux, can't wait to have it,
@Accurize2
@Accurize2 3 жыл бұрын
Love my 2020 R Nine T Pure. The riding experience is addictive!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the look of the Pures- beautiful bikes!🖤👌🏻
@ivanmccain9911
@ivanmccain9911 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, all true! I came from Aprilia Tuono (2009) to R9T and I is a great built bike with less power but amazing handling. For over a year I am amazed by bmw and if I am not riding it, I am just staring at it in my garage. 😀
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivan! I know exactly what you mean- I spent half my time drinking coffee and looking at it!😆
@clint_davis
@clint_davis 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Happy with my R9T and you're 100% right on the more aggressive ride.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clint, really glad you enjoyed it!
@PinQuP
@PinQuP 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are brilliant. Lovely videos! Keep them coming.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, really appreciate the support!🙌🙂
@stephanobarewicz9841
@stephanobarewicz9841 2 жыл бұрын
Great vlog! Much appreciate the user’s view. I must ask one technical question though: how does it feel riding a dry clutch on what seems like a powerful bike ? Would the dry clutch wear out quickly when commuting in the city ? Thanks
@gavshields83
@gavshields83 Жыл бұрын
I'm o
@pierreventer1871
@pierreventer1871 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this series. Well spoken and amazing footage. Thanks Freddie.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so Pierre, so glad you enjoyed it!🙂
@XC-ol9db
@XC-ol9db 3 жыл бұрын
Great Freddie!! Awesome footage and reveiw 🤜🤛
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it, thank you!🙂
@ParisGentlemandriver
@ParisGentlemandriver 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, well spoken and precise ! You’ve earned a sub here my friend !
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the support Arthur, really appreciate it🙂
@mariodome9430
@mariodome9430 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect comparison, thanks for the much information, I'm looking forward to the next video ✌🏼
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jago, really glad you found it interesting!🙂🙌🏻
@mariodome9430
@mariodome9430 3 жыл бұрын
For a long time I decided between NineT and Triumph Scrambler 1200 ... I both like it very much 😉
@fredcerrato7602
@fredcerrato7602 2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic review Freddie... I am on my third 2021 R9T red frame edition and love it. I do agree about the shift points with you. I am hoping to change it up with some mod's. ;-) Keep it up...
@scubageorge
@scubageorge 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your reviews on R9T. I went to a BMW dealer last week and am actually thinking of ordering a PURE version. After your video, I kind of knowing what I really need at this point. Thank you.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you George, really glad this video's been useful! The use version I think will be a very good buy- the R9T feels like a bike for life! Happy riding🙂
@kona6451
@kona6451 3 жыл бұрын
If you can afford it skip the pure and go for the regular 9t. I have a classic and my friend has a pure. He regrets his purchase. None adjustable suspension, no tach, no spoke wheels etc.......
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@kona6451 Very interesting!
@Accurize2
@Accurize2 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Pure. It’s an amazing riding experience! So raw and analog.
@derekturner744
@derekturner744 3 жыл бұрын
Nice follow-up review and final thoughts. Well done 😀
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Derek!🙂
@Nick_R_
@Nick_R_ 2 жыл бұрын
The Triumph Speed Twin and Kawasaki z900RS are the competitors for the R9T. Oh, SW Motech make model specific pannier racks and suitably retro panniers.
@thejohnnerparty
@thejohnnerparty Жыл бұрын
Really good info and perspective. A big thumbs up.
@e.l.9589
@e.l.9589 2 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle, a universal language of unity. New subscriber from America.
@martyn_g
@martyn_g 2 ай бұрын
I love my R NineT. That engine, USD forks - adjustable, rear shock - adjustable, far longer warranty, roadside assist and it’s simply gorgeous and great fun to ride. I ride my one every day, as I don’t own a car.
@davidwood974
@davidwood974 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! New subscriber, and current Triumph guy in New Hampshire (US). This bike is on my list as a potential upgrade of my STR. Cheers!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the support David! This is a very special bike🖤👌🏻🏍
@allanapplin250
@allanapplin250 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Love my RnineT and used to have a 2009 Bonney a few years back which I also loved. Good luck planning some "Big" trips on the Livewire. Since seems you will get well under 100miles range when cruising the highway! Be interesting to see how you go.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Allan! My LiveWire video should be live within the next eight hours- it was a gigantic rollercoaster and INCREDIBLY eye opening!!
@kaijessen3654
@kaijessen3654 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Bonneville 900 on Kauai and it was a perfect motorcycle for that island. There is only a few miles of the island where you can get the speed up to 60mph and the balance was nice for the mostly flat riding on the island. It was particularly fun on the twisty canyon road up to the Waimea canyon overlooks. I never got to ride one here on the Big Island but I imagine it to be underpowered for the steep hills of the Big Island and getting up to highway speed up the Haleakala Highway on Maui would have also been a stretch. Probably because I didn’t try that either. The other thing is the brakes on the Triumph were crap for quick stops on Kauai. Another thing is that it is a bit too light for the high wind conditions that you encounter on Maui and the Big Island. My current 2000 BMW r1100r is a great bike for the Big Island that gets me over saddle road at 80 to 100mph and on the twisty roads that are all over the upper road on the leeward side. I like the bike a lot but drawbacks of the old BMW, like sure-footedness on fast tight corners, no ABS brakes and a heavy feel to the bike in a few of the 180 degree corners in Kona make me thirst for the R9T more than any other bike as potentially the best bike for my home island. One bike to rule them all. I know that there is no such thing. I also had a 2018 KTM 790 and that was fantastic for the beat up roads and was even better at cornering than my BMW r1100r but a big drawback was that riding slowly along the ocean side road was unpleasant because the engine runs hot and gets too warm on the seat. I liked that bike but it was incorrectly put together at the dealership so I just turned the bike back in. I also didn’t like the chain after having ridden mostly BMW for the past 10 years. I also had a GS Adventure on this island but that was too much for many of the riding conditions of this island and too tall to park because there is never flat surface to park on here. I also liked the handling in corners better on my old r1100r than on the GS.
@fizzyridertoo
@fizzyridertoo Жыл бұрын
The Bonnie 900s only have a single front disc so it's hardly fair to compare it to the twin discs of the R1100R.
@uby79
@uby79 3 жыл бұрын
Simple but effective review!
@jennifer.juniper4845
@jennifer.juniper4845 3 жыл бұрын
Really good review and balanced summary. I have R9T Urban and agree with comments re seat and gearbox but having tried other bikes, including Triumphs I think the BMW is in another league Look forward to your review of Harley
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Jennifer. I do agree- especially in terms of dynamism and rider focus, the BMW stands alone! Thanks for the support!🙂
@asacarrick1440
@asacarrick1440 2 жыл бұрын
I like Freddie's enthusiasm
@majowa83
@majowa83 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the comparison I needed. Thanks 👍
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful🙂
@IanTheEarlobe
@IanTheEarlobe 3 жыл бұрын
The shots of you on the bike were great. Love hearing from an actual pillion about how the seating is. Get a Ducati scrambler! It’s a direct competitor to the 1200xc and R nine T. It would really answer the question of which modern classic is the best!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! And great shout re the Ducati- I'll try and get one!
@therealeugenecussons
@therealeugenecussons 2 жыл бұрын
I like Ducati but 85hp vs 110hp? Almost same size engine. Dont understand that move…
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! Very informative!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Pete!
@oldrando4766
@oldrando4766 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. You’re right. I’ve got a 2017 pure as a daily commuter, 25k miles, and I still very occasionally miss a gear. Need to be a tiny bit deliberate when shifting. Other than that, absolutely love the bike.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for the insight regarding the gearbox! I’m a huge fan of the Pure model- I really like the honesty of it- beautiful bikes!
@Timstone101
@Timstone101 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, really appreciated. Like someone else typed, your enthusiasm is infectious. Was thinking about this gorgeous bike, but your final thoughts won me over not to buy one. Surprising I know but your comment about the pressure on the wrists brought me to actually plan a ride at a dealer. And sure enough, after half a day of (motorway) touring my wrists hurt. Bummer... Perhaps you can do a review of a BMW R1250R? Curious what you would make of that bike and how it stacks up against the R NineT.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And really glad you found it useful! I've heard extremely good things about the R1250R. A few R9T owners said they bought handlebar risers for their R9Ts, and that sorts out the wrist pain:)
@Timstone101
@Timstone101 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs Why the heck didn't I think of risers... D'Oh! Thanks for the reminder though.
@JamesWoodard1222
@JamesWoodard1222 3 жыл бұрын
Just a small note. Hepco & Becker make the C-Bow pannier carrier for the R Nine T. Also, the pillion isn't an issue for me. Having been rear-ended, I quit carrying a passenger 15 years ago.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, thanks for the heads up James- I'm a huge Hepco and Becker fan and it's great that they do a C-Bow for it! Ahhh, I don't blame you at all re pillion carrying! What an incredible bike the R9T is!🖤
@Tvaz1
@Tvaz1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I own a 2013 Bonnie, but still waiting the right moment to ride.👊🏻
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Otacilio!🙂. 2013 is the sweet spot: fuel injection, air cooled and still no fancy rider aids- pure riding👌👌
@Tvaz1
@Tvaz1 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs that’s absolutely right!👊🏻
@TheSkipsey
@TheSkipsey 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Went to bmw after watching... Came away with a scrambler, gold spoked wheels and billet kit.. More then welcome to borrow for a week or so, if your ever back in the uk👍🍻
@RevZolution
@RevZolution 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd love the R Nine T as a second one
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@jamescopsey2837
@jamescopsey2837 2 жыл бұрын
I had one almost identical to that for about three years. Agree with you on the level of engineering and looks, but even at 5’9” I found it uncomfortable after a relatively short while. Also the suspension was very harsh and so I never did very many miles on it - even less so after developing a dodgy back. I don’t think the tubed tyres helped, which were always a bugbear on such an expensive bike. At the time I bought it, in 2015, the BMW dealer was telling me it was a short run special! Incidentally the KTMs I was running at the same time, with WP suspension, were like a magic carpet ride.
@eliotash1280
@eliotash1280 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Freddie, Love your videos, being new to biking - found your work very insightful. How would you say this bike would be for a taller man. I’m 6’5. (195cm). I imagine I could also lower the pegs. Thanks.
@karlrush5085
@karlrush5085 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Refreshing way to do it. Really interesting. Thanks
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Karl!
@paulw6333
@paulw6333 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just brought one the same coming of a s1000r . Can’t wait. Great video I am subscribed 👍🏻
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Paul, enjoy your new toy!🙂👌🏻🏍
@abdulazizsaleh8650
@abdulazizsaleh8650 Жыл бұрын
142,000 viewer's... 3,100 thumbs 👍🏻..🤔😐😐 This is Not fair at all... as long as you see this Episode...at least show some appreciation for the Efforts of it... Thank you for all the thumbs 👍🏻...Freddie Deserve it
@r-btoofficial7865
@r-btoofficial7865 3 жыл бұрын
Love that u put an invisible kickstand down.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
😆😆
@scallen110670
@scallen110670 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the r nine t and i also found the gearbox a little cluncky but after a day or two im used to it i think its a shaft drive thing , you just need to adjyst your riding. I love the bike and test rode many others before getting it and every time i get on it i feel i made the right choice
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing your opinion on the gearbox. Ahhhh that makes sense with the shaft drive!! What a bike though- so so special!
@martinlegrice1414
@martinlegrice1414 3 жыл бұрын
The physical nature of the R9T is what is appealing to me. It is a riders bike and part of the joy of riding is having to put in some work...with much reward. Cheers!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
nicely said and I completely agree!
@AlHR23
@AlHR23 2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel. Found the comparison very helpful as I have a Bonnie and am interested in the R Nine. Have you tried the Scrambler version? If so, is it more similar to the riding position of the Bonnie? Thanks and keep up the good work.
@aimenalwan
@aimenalwan 3 жыл бұрын
First time here! There is something refreshing about the simplicity and content delivery, thanks for sharing, sub'd 🍻I think the R1250 R is supposed to be similar-ish but more on the naked / futuristic look side. Have you ridden an ADV bike before? They're very comfy! It would be great if you reviewed the riding gear as well 👌🏻
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the support Aimen, hugely appreciated! Funnily enough, I’d never considered the R1260R, but since I’ve had the R9T, you’re the fourth person to say it’s a superb bike and significantly more comfortable. I’ve never ridden an ADV bike in my life- I’ll try and get one to try🙂 And I’ll get some gear review videos in there too- great shout!
@Texas_Blues
@Texas_Blues 4 ай бұрын
When the weight is centralised it is easier to handle. I noticed that when moving bricks in a wheel barrow. If the bricks were spread out left to right the wheel barrow felt a lot heavier leaned over compared to having the bricks more in the centre.
@dadmadforgot4050
@dadmadforgot4050 3 жыл бұрын
You come across like a pro on camera! Are you an actor? Great video 👍
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Jon, really appreciate it! I've just been doing motorcycle content on Instagram for a year (@dob.bs) and thought I'd try KZfaq. I'm absolutely loving KZfaq- extremely fun!😀
@Fernando90054
@Fernando90054 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Fredy, What would be your choosing bike for a tour of 3000/ 4000 miles long. Putting the proper touring bikes aside , would you go on the T120 or on a R nine T? In terms of reliability which one would you prefer to accomplish the trip without mechanical or other incidents? Thanks for the opinion ✌️✌️
@dry509
@dry509 3 жыл бұрын
Good review. Very good points made.
@ericwait8000
@ericwait8000 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Buddy !! I am debating on the Triumph Speed Twin and the R Nine T. First bike for me so less experienced rider but if you have any advice that would be great !! :)
@ttking001
@ttking001 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have the 2021 R NineT but I need that Jacket. How tall are you and what size Jacket are you wearing?
@xcaliber7779
@xcaliber7779 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is a proper review!
@soundknight
@soundknight 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fabulous review. Thanks
@ginger-witch
@ginger-witch 2 жыл бұрын
What seat is on your bonneville? Will it fit on the 2022 Speedmaster? It looks amazingly comfortable
@daryldaryl913
@daryldaryl913 2 ай бұрын
Yes... it is an older post but i reply anyway. Good review. Thank you. The BMW is something special and i agree with the modern yet retro description. I have owned many bikes over the years imcluding the modern Triumph. While the Triumph does nothing wrong BMW is in another class. Looks superb.
@Tommy-Atkins
@Tommy-Atkins 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison vid mate.....you’ve really got to get your hands on a Speed Twin for the ultimate comparison!....I reckon your “dream bike” might just change 😉😎👍
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Agreed- I must try a Speed Twin! I’ve heard almost universally good things about it!🙂👌🏻
@philhindmoor7569
@philhindmoor7569 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, really interesting. Have you ever tried the Biltwell Lane Splitter helmets?
@chrisprouse3628
@chrisprouse3628 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Freddie great video. Just bought a 2016 r9t sport and looking for gear to ride it are hood sk11 and tcx x blend a good mix thanks Chris
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Yep the Hood Jeans SK11s and TCX X-Blends are a superb mix; brilliant value, look superb and very safe!
@peterm348
@peterm348 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts about dry clutch? Issues using friction zone in slow speed maneuvers compared to your Triumph? Thanks
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh I didn’t know it was a dry clutch- maybe that’s why I didn’t find it quite as confident when going from neutral to first gear!! Sometimes I had to tap twice, of release and then re-engage the clutch hand lever to go from neutral to first! But apart from that, it’s ok🙂👌🏻
@armedcock
@armedcock 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Cali I am riding a 2016 Bonnie and feeling it's too slow... this is exactly what I needed to watch, good job!
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, great to have a watcher from Cali!:) Really glad you liked the video! You'll love the R9T then- it's scarily fast and nothing will leave you on real roads!
@armedcock
@armedcock 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreddieDobbs first of all, submitted for support secondly, not sure if you have chance to try thruxton 1200 like 2019 or 2020 version loved the look, struggling on the riding posture, and not sure about if how faster it could be... I used to ride a ducati 620 and it's super agile, then I felt a bit down after switching to Bonnie >.
@FreddieDobbs
@FreddieDobbs 3 жыл бұрын
@@armedcock i really have to try a Thruxton, but I’m similar to you in that I’m not a huge fan of the aggressive riding position. That Ducati’s a beauty!🖤 Interesting about the Bonnie- I switched from a Triumph Speed Triple to a Bonnie as I prefer slower bikes (I know that sounds weird!😆). Let me know how you find the R9T!🙌🏻 Thanks Tony!
@flemmingkanstrup5853
@flemmingkanstrup5853 3 жыл бұрын
@@armedcock I´ve put the 20 mm shimmy-thing under the bar clamp on mine to raise them a bit - makes a huge difference
@armedcock
@armedcock 3 жыл бұрын
@@flemmingkanstrup5853 Thanks a lot for your inputs, Sir. I have sold my Bonnie during the pandemic...
@billwilliams6827
@billwilliams6827 2 жыл бұрын
Im.going to get the bmw but i get it on the pillion position . Im wondering if you could get a full custom seat build done to handle that problem ?
@roverroko306
@roverroko306 3 жыл бұрын
I got beautiful raisers on my R9T, made by Hornig and expensive as hell but make for a great riding position.
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